[F1] Hungarian Grand Prix 2010 - Page 5

ac · 02-08-2010, 16:09

It is a good question though.

F1 is surely about the innovation as much as it is about the racing. It's supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport so technological advancement is all part of the game. I'd love to see a formula that allowed the engineers to go wild and build some cars that were mind-boggling. Certainly safety rules need to be in place. No driver aids too, there's no point having a driver at all if the machine is going to do all the work. Aside from that though (and a budget cap) why not let them push development. Yes, one team might come up with something that blitzes the opposition, but that's the point. Other teams will soon follow suit or work out what they've done and then do it better. We already know that it's not always about driver capability (even if both drivers are in the same equipment

).

I guess the argument is that the majority of technical rules are in order to slow the cars down for safety reasons. The difficult bit is when a team finds a loophole or, perhaps as in the case of Red Bull, a way to keep within regulation due to innovative design. Should that be stopped or applauded? All of the other teams will cry out if they didn't think of it first, but they'll be quick to adopt the same approach once they work out how it's done. Why move the goalposts mid-season?

What's the alternative? Stick all of the drivers in the exact same car and see who the best driver is? It'd definitely sort out the talent from the trash but you'd also lose out on the pre-season uncertainty, mid-season improvements and underperforming drivers as they struggle with their new car.... Perhaps it could be called A1 GP?

RonnyJ · 02-08-2010, 17:20

This is the best image I've seen - you can see just how close Barrichello is to the wall from the shadow on it, and he's still got to go past the end, car angled still towards the wall at that point.

Schumacher has now said the stewards were right to punish him, and said "I wasn't seeking to endanger him with my move. If he feels I was then I'm sorry, this wasn't my intention" - but all I can think of is Schumacher looking so smug when interviewed yesterday. Given so many people think a race ban would have been appropriate, I think it's just 'damage limitation' on his part.

Ricinus · 03-08-2010, 00:26

From the angle of Rubens' steering wheel it looks like he has decided that he is quite close enough to the wall. It is slightly going left.

scoobyood · 03-08-2010, 00:38

That steering wheel was probably going from left to right adjusting over and over very quickly to make sure the car squeezed through. Rubens is the stig beater... a lesser man (like the person on the left) probably wouldn't have made it.

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02-08-2010, 16:09	#81
ac Registered User Join Date: Dec 2000 Posts: 1,904 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	It is a good question though. F1 is surely about the innovation as much as it is about the racing. It's supposed to be the pinnacle of motorsport so technological advancement is all part of the game. I'd love to see a formula that allowed the engineers to go wild and build some cars that were mind-boggling. Certainly safety rules need to be in place. No driver aids too, there's no point having a driver at all if the machine is going to do all the work. Aside from that though (and a budget cap) why not let them push development. Yes, one team might come up with something that blitzes the opposition, but that's the point. Other teams will soon follow suit or work out what they've done and then do it better. We already know that it's not always about driver capability (even if both drivers are in the same equipment ). I guess the argument is that the majority of technical rules are in order to slow the cars down for safety reasons. The difficult bit is when a team finds a loophole or, perhaps as in the case of Red Bull, a way to keep within regulation due to innovative design. Should that be stopped or applauded? All of the other teams will cry out if they didn't think of it first, but they'll be quick to adopt the same approach once they work out how it's done. Why move the goalposts mid-season? What's the alternative? Stick all of the drivers in the exact same car and see who the best driver is? It'd definitely sort out the talent from the trash but you'd also lose out on the pre-season uncertainty, mid-season improvements and underperforming drivers as they struggle with their new car.... Perhaps it could be called A1 GP?

02-08-2010, 17:20	#82
RonnyJ NO TOUCHING! Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Norwich Posts: 2,603 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	This is the best image I've seen - you can see just how close Barrichello is to the wall from the shadow on it, and he's still got to go past the end, car angled still towards the wall at that point. Schumacher has now said the stewards were right to punish him, and said "I wasn't seeking to endanger him with my move. If he feels I was then I'm sorry, this wasn't my intention" - but all I can think of is Schumacher looking so smug when interviewed yesterday. Given so many people think a race ban would have been appropriate, I think it's just 'damage limitation' on his part.

03-08-2010, 00:26	#83
Ricinus Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Cov. Posts: 1,637 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	From the angle of Rubens' steering wheel it looks like he has decided that he is quite close enough to the wall. It is slightly going left.

03-08-2010, 00:38	#84
scoobyood joe@cult.thedigitalfix Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: XBL:JWrock Posts: 3,715 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	That steering wheel was probably going from left to right adjusting over and over very quickly to make sure the car squeezed through. Rubens is the stig beater... a lesser man (like the person on the left) probably wouldn't have made it.