I'm not old, cos I like this type of music

[hazelb]

So do you still like rave music?

are the prodigy still cool?

and are new bands as good as the old ones like 'jesus and mary chain' / crowded house ?



...........See you have a whole thread to talk about music now, so please leave my 'old persons hobbies' thread alone. :cry::cry::cry:

[nmirza]

I still listen to the old school Metallica and Guns n Roses.

I find it hard to keep track of the latest music because we don't have the definitive chart anymore. There are so many different charts out there now, I don't bother. And MTV are shi'ite.

[SIMON ADEBISI]

I thought MTV was Sunni.

[GordonJ]

are the prodigy still cool?

I picked up Invaders Must Die and it reminded me of Jilted Generation and the early 90s, also recently picked up Massive Attack's Heliogland and that reminded me of the same time period (especially with the Marina Topley-Bird vocals).

Those were good times (when all this was fields etc)

[shteve]

So, about that springy spade thingy...

[allan]

Most of what I listen to is old and I'm 29. So far today I have listened to stuff that is all at least 10 years old, most of it far older.

[splobber]

You'll get nobody posting in this thread now.... moving to music forum

[LouBarlow]

Age should have nothing to do with liking of decent music.

[SIMON ADEBISI]

Im 31 and i listen to metal.

Its like a musical AA meeting.

[allan]

Im 31 and i listen to metal.

Its like a musical AA meeting.

Same, can't beat a bit of Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer and the Maiden on a Sunday.

[SIMON ADEBISI]

Im currently blaring a wee bit of Entombed.

"LIKE THIS WITH THE DEVIL!!!"

http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh200/ronanomeara/326.jpg

[NicolaUK]

Age should have nothing to do with liking of decent music.

Absolutely :thumbs:

And anyone that just concentrates on one genre doesn't know what they're missing :D

[SIMON ADEBISI]

I listen to a bit of everything really. Earlier it was I Am Kloot and Method Man's Tical.

[bruce-leroy]

I put on Appetite for Destruction last week, and its like one of the best rock albums ever! I never thought it was as good years ago, when I first listened to it at 8 years old on cassette. When I was older, I only thought the singles from the album were good, but now I think every track is amazing. Especially loving Out to Get Me.

[photek]

If you're still liking rave try the new Danny Byrd "Rave Digger" album on Hospital Records. Great rave v drum&bass fusion. Amazed when Ill Behaviour made it into the charts last week and Radio One put it on their A list.

[gingertom]

So do you still like rave music?

are the prodigy still cool?

and are new bands as good as the old ones like 'jesus and mary chain' / crowded house ?



...........See you have a whole thread to talk about music now, so please leave my 'old persons hobbies' thread alone. :cry::cry::cry:

My son is 11 - his favourite band is the Prodigy - his mates love Prodigy - I asked how what he thought about "old" people liking The Prodigy - he said

cueeeeeelll :thumbs:

[Raigmore]

Im 31 and i listen to metal.

I am 55 (almost) and like listening to Iron Maiden, Def Leppard etc - as I have been for over 30 years. I like to remember that the present Iron Maiden lineup are all in my age group and their latest album Final Frontier is brilliant. (Love at CD cover art too!)

[AKPiggott]

I'm 27 and I listen to The Beatles, The Who (who I've seen live), Bowie, Johnny Cash and I'm forever discovering old fresh music. Some people seem to find it strange, but they're the ones missing out as far as I'm concerned.

Of course, there's lots of modern music I like but listening to mainstram radio these days is a depressing experience. Tiny Temper, Katie Price and the rest of the chart-dominating guff these days can all pee off and die as far as I'm concerned.

[allan]

I listen to Johnny Cash from time to time as well, it's nice for a change. I'm partial to the odd bit of the Cure as well.

[Raigmore]

But age ( or passting time?) can sometimes make a difference in attitudes towards a particular band. During my teens in the early 70s, my friends and I used to think Led Zeppelin were the bees knees (and ankles) but somehow I can barely stand listening to them now. But a band like Def Leppard for example, who gained prominence almost a decade later than LZ and tend to use a more linear rhythm to their music, still appeal to me very much.

[mattwhite1]

this week found myself listening to Dire Straits, particularly the tracks Brothers in Arms and Telegraph Road, am 35 and yesterday in the car I was listening to Arcade Fire, GnR and Metallica - it shouldnt work, but it does

[sideshowbob]

I've been listening to Steeple by Wolf People ... it's like Wishbone Ash without the guilt.

[ian turner]

I've been listening to Steeple by Wolf People ... it's like Wishbone Ash without the guilt.
Classic ash has sleeve notes by John Peel, where's the guilt ? :cuckoo:

[sideshowbob]

To be fair, I rarely feel guilty about anything - even listening to Argus in my underpants while eating a findus microwave roast dinner wouldn't trigger my guiltometer :D

[Raigmore]

To be fair, I rarely feel guilty about anything -

Not even Lesley Gore singing It's My Party? :D:gag:

[Johnny Vodka]

So do you still like rave music?

are the prodigy still cool?

and are new bands as good as the old ones like 'jesus and mary chain' / crowded house ?



...........See you have a whole thread to talk about music now, so please leave my 'old persons hobbies' thread alone. :cry::cry::cry:

I like rave music. I like The Prodigy. I like J&MC. Crowded House are ****. :D

[Mr Majestik]

Strange how kids now like old bands.

The prodigy have no been around for 20 years. The thought of listening to 20 year old bands when i was 18 would have made me sick to the stomach.

Mind you when i was 18 we didn't have the Killers or Kings of Leon as the popular beat combos.

[LouBarlow]

I like rave music. I like The Prodigy. I like J&MC. Crowded House are ****. :D

Crowded House are far from ****. You are probably doing your usual trick of not actually having heard any of their albums and just judging them on how 'cool' you perceive them to be.

[Rob]

Crowded House are far from ****. You are probably doing your usual trick of not actually having heard any of their albums and just judging them on how 'cool' you perceive them to be.

Agreed. Their last albums have been OK; but nothing close to their brilliant run of 4 albums between '86 and '93. I wouldn't expect them to be everybody's cup of tea but to describe them as **** is a little strange..

[DM]

probably just heard the singles

[Johnny Vodka]

Crowded House are far from ****. You are probably doing your usual trick of not actually having heard any of their albums and just judging them on how 'cool' you perceive them to be.

No, my sis loves them and used to play them all the time. I find them immensely boring and 'dad rock'. I wasn't against liking big, popular bands as a kid - had a few U2 albums. :p

[LouBarlow]

Agreed. Their last albums have been OK; but nothing close to their brilliant run of 4 albums between '86 and '93. I wouldn't expect them to be everybody's cup of tea but to describe them as **** is a little strange..

He's not heard them. I don't believe the whole sister scenario, for one minute frankly.

[Johnny Vodka]

He's not heard them. I don't believe the whole sister scenario, for one minute frankly.

:lol: Whatever you like, Lou. I personally don't like them. I'm sure I'm not the only person who thinks they're dull. Actually, my sis once wrote in to Mark Radcliffe (when he did his old r1 night time show) and he made up some story about her wanting a whole Crowded House album played (rather than just a track) and took the ****. So there. :p

[stu_69]

Im 31 and i listen to metal.

Its like a musical AA meeting.

Holy **** we are the same age. Our paths crossed so many times during the many music concerts in 90's Ireland, no I know why.

Anyway I listed to loads of old music. I have a penchant for Niall Diamond don't ya know!

[Robert S]

Crowded House are far from ****. You are probably doing your usual trick of not actually having heard any of their albums and just judging them on how 'cool' you perceive them to be.

Neil Finn is an exceptional songwriter. I actually thought the planet without exception loved Crowded House...

[DeadYankee]

Having absolutely no ******* clue what you are talking about has never been a hindrance to having an opinion on the Forums.

[Johnny Vodka]

Neil Finn is an exceptional songwriter. I actually thought the planet without exception loved Crowded House...

Well, that's just daft. Coz you'll never get everyone to agree that band X is good or great. For the record, I like a lot of folky, well-crafted stuff (more so as I've got older) but I still don't get Crowded House. A track like Weather With You just grates with me. Don't get me wrong - I can see why some people like them, but it just leaves me cold. It just doesn't engage me emotionally and it's definitely not 'exciting'.

[Robert S]

I did not literally mean the "whole world". Maybe I should included a sycophantic take-my-comment-with-a-pinch-of-salt emoticon. :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::thumbs::brickwall

[KRW]

I think Neil Finn's a good songwriter, but Crowded House are a bit on the dull side.

[Robert S]

Lovely arrangements though. And Finn's lyrics are, I think, a cut above the standard Beatles-esque ramblings.

Though I agree that it's nice to toggle CH with a bit of Zeppelin, or whatever gets the blood pumping.

[KRW]

Yes, nice arrangements, but the sort of band I'll admire from afar rather than get excited by. I used to live with a girl who was a bit obsessed by them, so they're forever tainted in mine eyes by endless, endless, endless repitition.

The best thing about them is the reaction you get when you say they're boring, it's always 'OOO its more than that ******* weather song you know!!!11' as we see here.

[Robert S]

I used to live with a girl who was a bit obsessed by them, so they're forever tainted in mine eyes by endless, endless, endless repitition.


The kiss of death.

[The Bear]

Re: Prodigy - I still think The Fat Of The Land is an excellent album, and Out Of Space was a great single. Can't stand much else they've done though oddly and am not really a fan of dance music in general.

[AndyWilson]

How come in a thread called "I'm not old cos I listen to..." it's mainly old people talking about listening to old bands?

Where are the 40 year olds who like Tinchy Stryder? The 50-year olds who've hung up their safety pins and groove to Justin Bieber?

[PlexShaw]

They're all out sniffing glue and drinking cider at the local park.

[ian turner]

Old bands are refusing to die and reforming to play for the old faithful who can remember ten years ago but can't remember where they put their teeth 5 minutes ago :D They're filling out the touring schedules.
I've recently managed to see The Joy Formidable and Kellermensch are lined up for a weeks time with Apocalyptica in a couple of weeks and I'm 47. Mind you new these days can be 10 years old. Green Day who are popular with "the kids" are a veteran band from the 90s afterall.

[LouBarlow]

Yes, nice arrangements, but the sort of band I'll admire from afar rather than get excited by. I used to live with a girl who was a bit obsessed by them, so they're forever tainted in mine eyes by endless, endless, endless repitition.

The best thing about them is the reaction you get when you say they're boring, it's always 'OOO its more than that ******* weather song you know!!!11' as we see here.

That's fine, but to say 'they are ****' because you have heard one of their singles, like JV is doing, is nuts. They might not be to your taste, just as bands like Metallica etc aren't to mine, but I wouldn't turn around and call them ****.

[Johnny Vodka]

That's fine, but to say 'they are ****' because you have heard one of their singles, like JV is doing, is nuts. They might not be to your taste, just as bands like Metallica etc aren't to mine, but I wouldn't turn around and call them ****.

I've heard more than just a single, LB (although, to be honest, I don't remember much more than WWY now). Whether you want to believe that or not is up to you...

Do I need to add an 'in my opinion' after everything? Anyway, being dull, which is precisely what I'd accuse of them being, is perhaps the worst sin you can commit in art (IMO ;)).

[clarkyboy100]

I've found 'actual' footage of Mr Vodka discussing music...

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[LouBarlow]

When you say something 'is ****' it would be helpful, because your opinion is not the defining statement really is it? Just because you say something is ****, I wouldn't put my house on that actually being the case, considering some of the bands you have called **** in the past.

[The Bear]

Crowded House are excellent. Anyone with half an ear can hear what good songwriting it is.

[Johnny Vodka]

When you say something 'is ****' it would be helpful, because your opinion is not the defining statement really is it? Just because you say something is ****, I wouldn't put my house on that actually being the case, considering some of the bands you have called **** in the past.

A comment on art, unless explicity attributed to someone else, is implicity the opinion of the commentator. If someone told me a film, album or book was ****, of course I'd attribute it to the person. There will always be someone who sticks up for something and always be someone who'll call it crap (no matter the 'general opinion').

[DeadYankee]

Yes, but then you have to evaluate the credibility of the commentator

[Johnny Vodka]

Crowded House are excellent. Anyone with half an ear can hear what good songwriting it is.

A song that's well written can also be (perceived as) dull. There are songs used in musicals that are held up as good examples of song writing but I wouldn't personally choose to listen to them. See also Crowded House.

Yes, but then you have to evaluate the credibility of the commentator

No, you just to have realise that people have different tastes and want different things from music. I'm not a fan of music that feels overly studied and I'm more of an appreciator of sound than lyrics (generally speaking).

[DeadYankee]

As Dylan (check Wikipedia if you are unsure of who that is) said...don't criticise what you can't understand

[baffled]

How come in a thread called "I'm not old cos I listen to..." it's mainly old people talking about listening to old bands?

Where are the 40 year olds who like Tinchy Stryder? The 50-year olds who've hung up their safety pins and groove to Justin Bieber?

I'm 39 and currently enjoying albums by Tinie Tempah, Professor Green and Magnetic Man oh and Andy C's current Nighlife album (drum and bass) is quite simply superb.

Used to dj drum and bass/jungle so I'll always be drawn more to dance music than rock.

[Johnny Vodka]

Wasn't he in The Magic Roundabout (Dylan)?

Why wouldn't I be able to understand Crowded House? I don't find them 'difficult' (if only!), just bloody dull. It's not like I don't listen to enough acoustic/folk/cold weather music to be able to compare them with other bands/artists. If I want to don a wooly jumper, there are other bands/artists I'd much rather do it to!

[SIMON ADEBISI]

Why does every music thread turn into the Johnny Vodka show?

[stu_69]

It just does

[Hood]

I'm essentially a metal fan and always have been. I do tend to listen to older stuff because the current trend of Emo metal leaves me very cold. However, I will not dismiss things just because they are new. In fact last year's Crack the Skye by Mastodon is one of my very favourite albums of all time.

Oh and Crowded House are great.

[SIMON ADEBISI]

Mastadon :notworthy

[Johnny Vodka]

Why does every music thread turn into the Johnny Vodka show?

I think you'll find I'm not the music nazi in this thread.

[AndyWilson]

I would give my opinion on Crowded House, but as - based on the evidence of the hit(s) - I've never really listened further I guess I'd better not :)

Things are so different now though - in the 70s we only had 20 years of "pop" history to look back to. (I know there's a longer lineage but the term was only generally applied to rock and roll onwards) It's hard to believe there were barely more than 20 years between Bill Haley and the Sex Pistols - and in that 20 or so years we had the British Invasion, Psychedila, Heavy Rock, Prog, Glam, Electronica, Punk, Ska, Bluebeat, Dub, Lovers, Doo Wop, Motown, Sax, Atlantic, Funk, P-Funk, Hip Hop and the Singing Nun...

In fact, the roots of pretty much every musical genre we're still listening to 30 years later

[chopperwilson]

I would give my opinion on Crowded House, but as - based on the evidence of the hit(s) - I've never really listened further I guess I'd better not :)


you've got the silent s on the wrong side of hit :doh:

[GordonJ]

How come in a thread called "I'm not old cos I listen to..." it's mainly old people talking about listening to old bands?

Where are the 40 year olds who like Tinchy Stryder? The 50-year olds who've hung up their safety pins and groove to Justin Bieber?

My reply was mostly down to the recent Prodigy and Massive Attack albums sounding like the (good) stuff they did 20 years ago.

Although, to be fair, that's mostly aimed at Massive Attack as I thought Protection was great, Mezzanine was ok, and 100th Window was completely forgettable. For me Heliogland was an epic return to greatness.

I'm 39 and currently enjoying albums by Tinie Tempah, Professor Green and Magnetic Man oh and Andy C's current Nighlife album (drum and bass) is quite simply superb.

Anyway, I'm as old as baffled (40 next month), I really like the two Professer Green tracks I've heard "Just be good to Green" and "I need you tonight", but I'm not sure if that's wholly down the tracks themselves or from liking the originals and the changes he made.

So I'll keep an ear out for more of his tracks and see how it goes. :)

[Johnny Vodka]

I don't really get 'grime' or most UK rappers bar Dizzee and the very overlooked Roots Manuva. :notworthy

I wouldn't know Tinnie Tempah from Tommy Tomato. :nuts:

And, after hearing two Crowded House tunes yesterday on the radio (karma?), I can sum up exactly why I don't like them: they exhibit a total lack of passion, like school teachers making music.

[LouBarlow]

Well I heard Dan Ball-sac and Scrrobius Pip on 6 music yesterday, and wanted to vomit. That *is* ****.

[Rob]

IAnd, after hearing two Crowded House tunes yesterday on the radio (karma?), I can sum up exactly why I don't like them: they exhibit a total lack of passion, like school teachers making music.

I like them because they mix great hooks and melodies, fantastic middle eights and changes, some good moody stuff and thoughtful lyrics. If you think they sound boring then of course that's your right. However, it makes a nice chnage from the verse-chorus-verse-chorus-guitar solo or inane lyrics and shouty old ruubbish from most of today's "in" crowd.

(Although to be fair I can see why people have grown to hate Weather With You as this suffers from over repetition of the chorus - even more so in the single version than on the album).

[Johnny Vodka]

Well I heard Dan Ball-sac and Scrrobius Pip on 6 music yesterday, and wanted to vomit. That *is* ****.

Their second album was (and is) pretty terrible.

I'd still rather listen to it than Crowded House, though.

[SIMON ADEBISI]

Why listen to bad music? Cos its cooler? To be down wiv da kidz?

[Johnny Vodka]

Why listen to bad music? Cos its cooler? To be down wiv da kidz?

I don't. I got it (Dan & Scroob's 2nd album) as a review copy. Their debut had some good stuff on it, though, and I do believe Scroobius Pip has passion. They don't sound like a pair of geography teachers making music.

If I wanted to be down with the kidz, I'd be listening to Tinnie Tempah and N-Dubz...

[SGP_Mustang]

I'm 21 and i love listening to AC/DC, Jimi Hendrix, Metallica, Guns N' Roses, Aerosmith & Black Sabbath.

[Woz]

I'm over forty and I simply don't think music defines me anymore.
I love it as much as ever but nowadays I don't have the fantasy that I used to in my teens, where some cool person would ask what I'm listening to and be impressed ;)

[Raigmore]

I think it also depends upon the age of a person in relation to the decade in which a particular type of music became popular. About the only thing that I like from the 70s is the music and since a lot of Hard Rock & Heavy Metal bands hit the scene in the 70s, people (usually men) now in their late 40s to mid 50s tend to still follow those bands. I feel like I have aged alongside some of the big names like Steve Harris (Iron Maiden) or Joe Elliott (Def Leppard)

[Johnny Vodka]

I think it also depends upon the age of a person in relation to the decade in which a particular type of music became popular.

*I think* that's the point I was trying to make in the other thread. I'd say that much of the music that means the most to me was the stuff I got into in my mid teens to early twenties, and much of that was current at the time (Suede, Primal Scream, Radiohead). 60s Liverpool was so distant/alien to me I could never get into The Beatles (although there are maybe a couple of their songs I'm surprised to enjoy when I hear them on the radio).

I still enjoy 'older' music and new music, but I think you bond more intensely with music when you're in your teens/early 20s, especially when you're lurking in your room listening to the most miserable tunes you own when your dream girl rejects your advances. :suspect: :D

The main difference for me now is that I tend to use music to pick me up (hence my preference for dance music) than to help me wallow in misery.

[Robert S]

My reply was mostly down to the recent Prodigy and Massive Attack albums sounding like the (good) stuff they did 20 years ago.

Although, to be fair, that's mostly aimed at Massive Attack as I thought Protection was great, Mezzanine was ok, and 100th Window was completely forgettable. For me Heliogland was an epic return to greatness.


I actually much, much prefer both Mezzanine and 100th Window to the rather dated and "dinner-party" Blue Lines and Protection. I've not yet heard Heliogland. I agree that The Prodigy's best work is certainly their older stuff, specifically Music for the Jilted Generation.

One clear exception to the rule is Portishead, whose 2008 Third album represents a career peak.

[Johnny Vodka]

I actually think Protection is Massive Attack's tightest album, which is weird coz I was put off buying it for ages...

[LouBarlow]

Mezzanine is by far my favourite, though it does *slightly* tail off toward the end. The A side of that record is immense.

[Raigmore]

Slightly digressing from the main topic while remaining with the age issue, it amazes me how some ageing rock stars maintain their stamina during live performances. I was watching/listening to the DVD of the live act by AC-DC for the Iron Man 2 show last night and the band members' energy on stage was amazing, considering that they were over twice the average age of most of the audience. Brian Johnson is 63 years old, for God's sake and did not seem to let up at any stage.

[Robert S]

Mezzanine is by far my favourite, though it does *slightly* tail off toward the end. The A side of that record is immense.

Yeah, it's easily too long. Not be deliberately contrary, but I kinda prefer the second side of the album. And also Risingson, which is majestic.

[SGP_Mustang]

Slightly digressing from the main topic while remaining with the age issue, it amazes me how some ageing rock stars maintain their stamina during live performances. I was watching/listening to the DVD of the live act by AC-DC for the Iron Man 2 show last night and the band members' energy on stage was amazing, considering that they were over twice the average age of most of the audience. Brian Johnson is 63 years old, for God's sake and did not seem to let up at any stage.

Completely agree. :thumbs:

Really hope they release that live album Brian Johnson mentioned on Radio 1 (i think?)

[Raigmore]

Brian Johnson is quite a guy. Imagine an Englishman living in Florida, singing in an Oz band, supporting Newcastle United and racing cars in his spare time while having a close brush with cancer last year.