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So the cricketing summer starts tomorrow with a visit from the 'mighty' Bangladesh a team who have lost to Essex and the England Lions in their two warm up games.
For England Paul Collingwood has been rested and it looks like Morgan who take his place and more surprisingly Broad has also been rested which surprises me seeing as he didn't go to the IPL and did have a massive work load in our success in the 20/20. He places looks like it is going to go to Bresnan who did well against Bangladesh a couple of months ago.
Easy for England so far. 188-2. Strauss just out and falling just short of a century. I wonder if Pietersen will revert to proper Test batting or tries to carry on his superb T20 form.
I wonder if Pietersen will revert to proper Test batting or tries to carry on his superb T20 form.
Or perhaps neither. Good start to the summer for Trott with his hundred.
I'm liking Morgan - theres a bit of thorp about him, he seems to accumulate runs very quickly with nudges and nurdles
Bit surprising that Bangladesh decided to bowl first, did they really think that they had the bowlers to restrict England on what is usually a good batting pitch. Trott really didn't look in trouble throughout his innings so he should be able to push on up to and beyond 200 and Morgan is showing what a really good player he is.
Bit surprising that Bangladesh decided to bowl first, did they really think that they had the bowlers to restrict England on what is usually a good batting pitch. Trott really didn't look in trouble throughout his innings so he should be able to push on up to and beyond 200 and Morgan is showing what a really good player he is.
Think they looked at their military medium swing based attack and overcast conditions earlier and decided to take a chance to move the ball in the air and make early inroads
Trott still going - 217 at Lunch and hopefully still more to come!
TigaSefi
28-05-2010, 13:01
john316's curse still going!!
Death knoll again :lol:
505 all out for England in the end - a little disappointing but lets see what we can do with the ball now.
505 is probably a bit below what I was hoping for, so we will have to see how we do with the ball.
Shahadat Hossian got 5 for 98 in 28 overs and a place on the honours board.
Bangladesh coming out firing - 49-0 after 11.3 overs!
Perhaps they think perhaps they are playing a 50 over game. That said Tamim Iqbal is a very good batsman and England are bowling a load of old rubbish at them as well.
TigaSefi
28-05-2010, 14:54
At least we can calm down the "winning the ashes in Australia" hoop-la that being going since we thrashed the aussies the other week.
LouBarlow
28-05-2010, 15:23
Yeah because one session of bad bowling means it's all over already :nuts:
And don't forget that this isn't the usual England line up with Finn and Bresnan playing. It is a bit disappointing that the bowlers haven't as yet picked up a wicket between them. Good stuff by Trott but 600 should have really been the target.
And don't forget that this isn't the usual England line up with Finn and Bresnan playing. It is a bit disappointing that the bowlers haven't as yet picked up a wicket between them. Good stuff by Trott but 600 should have really been the target.
I like Finn - still a lot to learn but he's tall and doesn't stick every ball in halfway down the pitch which tends to be the tall fast bowlers weakness. On a length just outside off and let your height do the rest. Bresnan is another of these useful fairly accurate fast bowlers who can bat a bit but not a match winner imo
Also its another 5 day belter....one day the adminstrators might learn that an exciting 4 day match is much better than a dreary 5 day match.
I think more and more cricket administrators are preparing their grounds and wickets to last the full five days purely for financial reasons and with the way Bangladesh have started this could last well into the 4th day and possibly into the final day although much will depend on them reaching the follow-on target.
In other news India have lost a ODI to Zimbabwe and is looked quite an easy win for them as well even though they were chasing a total just under 300.
ralph wiggum
28-05-2010, 16:09
The short ball works at long last. 134-2 Finn gets his first wicket.
I think more and more cricket administrators are preparing their grounds and wickets to last the full five days purely for financial reasons and with the way Bangladesh have started this could last well into the 4th day and possibly into the final day although much will depend on them reaching the follow-on target.
In other news India have lost a ODI to Zimbabwe and is looked quite an easy win for them as well even though they were chasing a total just under 300.
Yup was going to comment on this...very surprising result even against a second string indian side.
The last ashes test match was a relatively poor (non-belter) and an absolutely cracking match. If they want to have people interested in cricket they need to learn that sides amassing 500+ each in the first innings does not achieve this and its so very shortsighted (like our administration generally is)
I am watching the ODI between West Indies and South Africa as well and Botha has just taken a nasty blow and the ball has got wedged in his grill and he has blood poor down his face.
He has had to leave the field and the ball has had to be changed as there is blood on it :gag:
not sure about the follow on decision - my guts say its right due to bangladeshs ability to collapse second innings but if they bat well and score fast as is there way we could see them scoring 350-370 and having a really tricky little chase
LouBarlow
30-05-2010, 13:12
Bangladesh batting excellently at the moment.
TigaSefi
30-05-2010, 13:23
Yeah because one session of bad bowling means it's all over already :nuts:
1 SESSION? I think Mr Postman, you are quite unequivocally wrong there!!
LouBarlow
30-05-2010, 13:31
1 SESSION? I think Mr Postman, you are quite unequivocally wrong there!!
erm no. Writing off the season because of one bad bowling display is clearly ridiculous.
That Nick Knight dancing advert btw? WTF!? :lol::nuts:
1 SESSION? I think Mr Postman, you are quite unequivocally wrong there!!
Come tomorrow I think it will be proven that you are in the wrong again.
It was the right decision to make Bangladesh bat again as the bowlers hadn't bowled many overs. Teams that do this do usually bat better the second time as we are seeing now.
TigaSefi
30-05-2010, 13:33
I am not debating we won't win but it clear that we have bowled badly for more than one session. Even that impartial place that is the BBC said they been bowling dross today.
LouBarlow
30-05-2010, 13:45
Indeed but they could bowl crap for the whole game and it really means little in the grand scheme of things. We have other options if these bowlers aren't working. It's a batter-friendly day on a batter friendly pitch anyway.
I am not debating we won't win but it clear that we have bowled badly for more than one session. Even that impartial place that is the BBC said they been bowling dross today.
I wouldn't say that they have bowled dross today unlike on Friday when they did serve up some crap. Tammin has attacked from the word go and there have been plenty of misses by the batsman and as the sun has come out the ball has not done anything out of the ordinary.
Not picking 5 bowlers was a mistake for Bangladesh - negative team selections in the test arena have hurt us in the past and are hurting us again today. Pick your team based on the conditions and team you are facing, not just just pick the same XI regardless for me.
Spot on. This is typical Lords 5 day pitch so playing 6 batsmen was a waste.
Brilliant batting by Bangladesh who can be proud of their efforts today, all the batsman have made a contribution and have gone a long way to saving this match if not for putting England under pressure tomorrow.
Finn with 2 breakthroughs this morning to get rid of both of the batsmen unbeaten overnight - hopefully we can wrap it up before Lunch if possible and get chasing the total down.
Finn has been impressive throughout this test and for the second time in the match he has the chance to pick up five wickets and get his name on the honours board.
LouBarlow
31-05-2010, 11:12
He does. Will he get 10 in the match?
Will he get 10 in the match?
He only needs one out of the remaining two wickets so he is in with a good chance. Lets hope so because Lords will have to give the money back to people that have brought their tickets via the Lords website, is it just today's money they give back or the full five days ?
we should win easily enough from here - bresnan hasn't really impressed he's kind of built in the same lines of flintoff but he just doesn't have enough pace to make it really dangerous. Finn is looking very useful - if he can get more into a pattern of bowling on a good lenth and using his height with the odd bouncer he has huge potential for us.
Feel sorry for Cook as he has had to poor decisions in this match, this one didn't look out on live viewing because of the fact that Cook was a long way down the pitch. This umpire was removing from the elite list a few years back and from what we have seen in this match perhaps he needs some time off again as both teams have had bad ones going against them from him.
Bangladesh have batted really well in this match. Shame their bowling isn;t up to scratch. I may even go to Day 2 of the match at Old Trafford next weekened
Their bowling from the open two was the worst I have seen at this level. It can't remember anytime where a team has scored 35 from just 3 overs in a test match. It is a shame that they haven't got a better bowling attack as this would enable them to compete more at this level but they did fight hard in this match especially with the bat.
Bresnan out of the 2nd test with a stress fracture in his foot - Sidebottom back into the squad despite his body seemingly incapable of surviving test cricket?!
LouBarlow
01-06-2010, 11:25
Why not just bring Broad back?
cheeseypuffs
01-06-2010, 14:00
Broad will probably play, but they will probably name Siders in the squad in place of Bresnan in case they wnat to play the extra seamer.
Broad is not even in the squad so has no chance of playing - I'd imagine they'll just swap Bresnan with Sidey and that'll be that. Might get away with 4 bowlers better at Old Trafford compared to Lords. Its just for me Sidebottom is a waste of time in regards to future tests. You can't trust him for a whole test series so why not try another young bowler for experience?
They should give Ajmal Shahzad a game. I like Sidey but he seems very one paced nowadays and getting some youngsters in the side will be a better long term bet.
cheeseypuffs
01-06-2010, 14:42
I thought Broad and Colly were only rested for the first Test?
I thought Broad and Colly were only rested for the first Test?
I think Sky mentioned over the weekend that they were both being rested for both tests. As I said in my opening post I am not sure why Broad is being rested as he hasn't sent down that many overs of late and look at what happened to Anderson as he hadn't sent down many and his performance in the first innings is not what we would usually associate with him. Failing that why not play another youngster like Finn.
cheeseypuffs
02-06-2010, 08:36
They've obviously deemed these Bangladesh Tests as being suitable to rest players, but I'm not sure how they determined Broad needed resting, maybe he's carrying a slight injury? I'd have thought Swann deserves a rest more than any of the other bowlers, but I think he's the type of guy that would rather be playing. If i was Colly I'd be a bit worried about missing out on a potential runfest when it looks like competition for a batsmans berth is hotting up.
I think that Colly was nursing a minor injury but Broad most definately did not want to be rested.
England are clearly trying to have a bat and a bowl in the first day. 84-3 before lunch.
KP throws his wicket away again. Hey ho.
Glad to see they picked Shahzad. let's hope he does well.
midknight
04-06-2010, 15:14
Broad is not even in the squad so has no chance of playing - I'd imagine they'll just swap Bresnan with Sidey and that'll be that. Might get away with 4 bowlers better at Old Trafford compared to Lords. Its just for me Sidebottom is a waste of time in regards to future tests. You can't trust him for a whole test series so why not try another young bowler for experience?
seems like you got your wish Ajmal Shahzad is in
So lets see what he can do, Finn has grabbed his chance with his performance in the previous test so the pressure will be on him to perform.
LouBarlow
04-06-2010, 15:48
Can't see it being as high-scoring a game as the Lords test anyway. More spin on day one than there was on day five there.
Questionable why we dont have a 2nd spinner but I struggle to remember the last time we played two spinners outside the subcontinent. England in a little bit of a hole and being dug out by a stubborn performance from Bell....never thought I would say that
I guess KP could send some overs down but usually England don't pick two spinners. Bell is looking good for three figures and Prior has knuckled down and there is a bit more batting to come. Swann should be pretty useful on this pitch if it is going to turn so early in the match.
England all out for 419 - Bangladesh on the attack again with their opening pair with Tamim Iqbal once again dispatching us to all parts!
LouBarlow
05-06-2010, 16:21
Collapsing now though.
This is some collapse, from 126-0 to 216-9. Nice wickets down for 90 runs. I don't think England should enforce the follow-on should we take the last wicket quickly as there is still three days left so plenty of time to rack up the runs and bowl at them again last on this pitch.
Or, we could just wrap up the test in three days. :shrug:
Could do but as seen in the first test teams usually bat a bit better second time around but with so much time left in the match it isn't going to matter either way what England do. I suppose on thing that could assist in them bowling again is that the bowlers have only had to bowl 54 overs between them today so they haven't been over used.
LouBarlow
05-06-2010, 18:05
Can't see the point rushing anyway. Let the batsmen do some batting. Some of them need to improve so another chance would be beneficial imo.
Weather is on the turn in the next couple of days so worth bearing in mind.
LouBarlow
06-06-2010, 09:51
Weather is on the turn in the next couple of days so worth bearing in mind.
Sure is. Definitely should enforce the follow-on now.
Bloody Manchester weather. We should definitely make them bat again because even if they get beyond our total there should be enough time left even with the iffy weather around, to leave us time to chase down the wining runs.
Bloody Manchester weather.
Because it never rains anywhere else.
Because it never rains anywhere else.
So what did you think on the match situation then Barny ?
Well having watched the match yesterday at OT, thought England didn't make the most of their batting, though Swann definitely gave the innings impetus. Bowling display was superb near the end.
cheeseypuffs
06-06-2010, 11:50
Follow on enforced. starting again (hopefully) at 1.15
LouBarlow
06-06-2010, 12:10
Rain stops there and starts here so we lose our Sky signal. Fan-*******-tastic . Thunder and lightning too. Awesome.
Bangladesh imploding again - 3 down already including Tamim!
4 down now - how often has a side been bowled out twice in back to back sessions???
LouBarlow
06-06-2010, 12:55
4 down ;)
TigaSefi
06-06-2010, 13:00
Put an umbrella over your sky dish!!!
LouBarlow
06-06-2010, 13:09
Put an umbrella over your sky dish!!!
:lol: God bless Sky Player.
It's stopped raining now anyway.
39/6 now and it's getting embarrassing!
I thought they might put up a bit of a fight but it seems that if Tamim goes early then that is it.
123 all out, England win by an innings and 80 runs. Thorough thumping all in all.
Or, we could just wrap up the test in three days. :shrug:
Bosh.
LouBarlow
06-06-2010, 15:50
Cricketing analyst genius! :notworthy
That was a bit embarrassing for Bangladesh, I thought they would hang around a bit and perhaps take it into tomorrow but they just couldn't cope with the moving ball. Had to laugh at Tamim's comments in the interview in that he practices harder than everybody else, on what we have seen he probably isn't to far wrong.
We now have a gap before the short one day series them starts but it is going to be interesting to see who the selectors pick for the Australian matches.
DanWilde1966
06-06-2010, 18:16
Target practice for England.
Without Tamim, this is a 100 or so runs all-out sort of side. When he doesn't fire, the team crashes and burns.
This hasn't exactly been a good advert for test cricket. And the emphasis this summer seems to be in favour of the short form of the game: the next test action in this country is in late July.
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