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Officially announced today (though it was rumoured long beforehand).
It's not being developed by Monolith but instead Day 1 which has me a bit worried to be honest but more FEAR is always good so I'll be looking forward to it regardless. Introducing things like coop and a cover system in a FEAR game feel very gimmicky to me but hopefully it turns out for the best. Due out Autumn 2010. If the rumours are true and it turns out that Monolith are away developing a Noone Lives Forever style game I'll be bloody ecstatic (they can't do an actual NOLF game since they don't own the rights)
Burbank, Calif. – April 8, 2010 – Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment announces F.E.A.R. 3, a heart-pounding paranormal horror first person shooter unleashing intense combat, compelling narrative and co-op play that evolves the franchise. F.E.A.R. 3 is set to release on the Xbox 360® video game and entertainment system from Microsoft, PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system, and Windows PC in fall 2010.
Alma returns in F.E.A.R. 3 but this time her sons Point Man and Paxton Fettel introduce divergent co-op, giving players distinctly different abilities affecting their own play as well as the experience of their co-op partner. Gamers participate in single player or co-op modes as Point Man, a genetically enhanced super soldier originally introduced in F.E.A.R., or they can play cooperatively as his conniving brother Paxton Fettel, whose incredible telekinetic power has given him life beyond the grave. The game is developed by Day 1 Studios, developer of the original F.E.A.R. console games in collaboration with Monolith Studios.
“Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment is evolving the F.E.A.R. brand with top horror, co-op and first person shooter combat in F.E.A.R. 3,” said Martin Tremblay, President, Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment. “Monolith Productions has passed the torch to Day 1 Studios to create a quality, powerful game that stays true to the roots of the F.E.A.R. franchise but takes players to a heightened level of gameplay.”
To further ensure extreme terror in F.E.A.R. 3, legendary horror director John Carpenter (Halloween, Village of the Damned) and critically acclaimed horror comic and script writer Steve Niles (30 Days of Night) have provided consultation to enhance several of the game’s frightening aspects. Steve Niles co-wrote the game script with the development team and John Carpenter provided his expertise in crafting the in-game cinematics.
“After working closely with Monolith, Day 1 is honored to bring the next iteration of the F.E.A.R. franchise to gamers with key elements of the past games yet providing fresh combat and horror experiences in F.E.A.R. 3,” said Denny Thorley, Founder and President, Day 1 Studios. “Players can look forward to new features such as divergent co-op, an evolved cover system, and more scares in F.E.A.R. 3.”
For more information about F.E.A.R. 3, please visit www.whatisfear.com
Debut trailer:
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EDIT - Can't have capitals in the thread title for some reason.
Moldiver
08-04-2010, 18:58
No one cares but you :lol:
f3ar. Very clever.
No one cares but you :lol:
f3ar. Very clever.
Yep I know :D Still no Monolith developing really disappoints me tbh. I know noone else gives a toss but for me it's akin to a Halo FPS not being developed by Bungie. Things like coop and cover systems have no business being in a FEAR game either. Still I hope it turns out decent but I'm very skeptical.
Trailer looks poo, I want to see a game, not a shoddy B movie.
mr starface
09-04-2010, 07:47
Strange trailer but I really enjoyed both Fear games so welcome this one and also love playing games in coop so looks good to me.
LouBarlow
09-04-2010, 07:50
I loved the 2nd one, so that's two people interested :lol:
I enjoyed the 2nd game too, so add one more to Team F.E.A.R.
I too fear the absence of Monolith & co-op has no place in this type of creepy FPS. I've no problems with them adding a cover system.
I wonder which John Carpenter will be taking part? .... Escape from N.Y. or Ghosts of Mars? ... I assume the latter.
What's with all these recent trailers being real world types - was there about 10 frames of gameplay there?!
The gun play always felt better/more satisfying in the first game that the 2nd, loved the first game, wasnt too bothered about the 2nd, so much so only played about 2 hrs of it. Have to see how this one pans out
fivebyfive
09-04-2010, 12:37
the lack of Monolith might be good as FEAR2 was not scary and the level design was cliche and lacked imagination
the lack of Monolith might be good as FEAR2 was not scary and the level design was cliche and lacked imagination
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/mr_woo/truelies.gif
fivebyfive
09-04-2010, 14:56
:lol: but its true
Mr woo playing fear 2? ;) :D NSFW
as on Gameswipe, 1.45 minutes and 5 min are the highlights
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:lol: The funny thing about that video is that I don't even like sniper rifles that much in games, never use them :D I'm more of a shotgun man.
I really liked the level design in FEAR 2 and thought it was well done and varied, especially the epicenter level but well different strokes for different folks. My biggest concern is the feel of the combat, Monolith have a certain style and feel for their combat which I love and I just don't know if Day 1 can replicate it. However I did read recently that one of the Monolith guys is a lead on this with Day 1 so maybe they'll get it right.
Also, I bought the PSM3 magazine today with the world exclusive reveal of FEAR3. I'll type up some of the key details later.
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Well done Mr Woo! .... After your rant yesterday regarding the incoming silly season of game-releases, Warner Bros have taken note & decided to push this back to 2011. :|
Well done Mr Woo! .... After your rant yesterday regarding the incoming silly season of game-releases, Warner Bros have taken note & decided to push this back to 2011. :|
Aye that's COD for you, no other shooter wants to compete with it. With Crysis 2 also delayed until next year I can't think of any FPS other than Halo Reach and Black Ops for this side of xmas.
Reviews starting to appear for this (out officially on Friday) & they seem reasonably positive so far. The first game was pants but I really enjoyed the second game & the footage of this so far looks decent.
Apart from Mr Woo (who will inevitably be buying & playing it on all formats) and fivebyfive (who is obviously sleeping/blackmailing with someone at LoveFilm to rent it on release-day), anyone else giving it a go? .... Co-op could be fun.
I'll be getting it, but when it drops in price.
I have F.E.A.R., F.E.A.R. Files and F.E.A.R. 2. Love the second one :thumbs:
IGN gave it an 8, which honestly was more than I expected.
I've had it pre ordered for a while now.
What now? http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/Product/FEAR3-First-Purchaser-Maps-and-Modes/dd92458c-8734-4b14-8ae6-9369f3e5df1a
150mb so appears to be more than an unlock to play pass, hmm, any ideas?
Reviews starting to appear for this (out officially on Friday) & they seem reasonably positive so far. The first game was pants but I really enjoyed the second game & the footage of this so far looks decent.
Apart from Mr Woo (who will inevitably be buying & playing it on all formats) and fivebyfive (who is obviously sleeping/blackmailing with someone at LoveFilm to rent it on release-day), anyone else giving it a go? .... Co-op could be fun.
Yee what ? The first continues to be one of the best FPS ever made (along with HL2) especially the shotgun :luv:. Not a single FPS (including FEAR 2 which is awesome too) has come close to the fantastic gunplay in the first game.
As for FEAR 3 it'll be a rental for me. No Monolith means I'm very dubious at best and none of the walkthrough videos have persuaded me otherwise especially with removal of health kits, adding cover and stupid COD style challenges all of which go completely against the spirit of FEAR. It'll be a solo playthrough first for me and then coop afterwards.
Anyway, a FEAR 2 video just for the sake of it :D
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From what I remember it was the button layout that screwed it up for me. No idea if you could alter it, I haven't played it for ages. Aye, and that torch only stayed on for so long as well :(
I meant the first F.E.A.R. console release was rubbish. I did get the original PC release but it was the first game that my PC at the time struggled with & I gave up long before the end before my PC imploded.
With the shocking news that the Woo is only renting this :eek: I firmly expect the imminent arrival of the four horsemen of the apocalypse. :p
:D
Well for me the reason the FEAR games are so good is because Monolith know how to make in your face, visceral, gorey FPS combat. They've been doing it for years and for me anyway, are masters at it. Hell they're my favourite developer full stop.
Day 1 gave us Fracture. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaah.
(I know, I know I should give it a fair shot and I will at least to see the story through)
IGN gave it an 8, which honestly was more than I expected.
I've had it pre ordered for a while now.
What now? http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/Product/FEAR3-First-Purchaser-Maps-and-Modes/dd92458c-8734-4b14-8ae6-9369f3e5df1a
150mb so appears to be more than an unlock to play pass, hmm, any ideas?
On the box in the shops it says redeem your online pass for 2 multiplayer modes and 6 maps so maybe there's a bit of a download there ? From what I gather Warner Bros. don't even give you trials so you'll just be cut off.
Ooooh, good reviews for this - I'm off to add it to my lovefilm queue!
I meant the first F.E.A.R. console release was rubbish. I did get the original PC release but it was the first game that my PC at the time struggled with & I gave up long before the end before my PC imploded.
I was going to say!....FEAR 1 on the PC at the time was epic! I bought the FEAR pack from steam this weekend just gone and started playing the 1st game again yesterday. Whilst it doesnt look no where near as impressive as i remembered the gun play and enemy AI are still surprisingly good!!
It's not too bad on the 360 either though. I've been playing it on 360 again recently (along with the PC version) and it works well enough. I've heard the PS3 version is a bit of a disaster though and is quite terrible.
anephric
21-06-2011, 17:37
The 360 version is okay, it just looks a bit dated now. I know they said they jazzed up the lighting, but I couldn't tell.
AKPiggott
21-06-2011, 19:32
Can't say I'm fussed about this. I loved the PC version of the original so much that I bought it again when I got a 360 (ended up getting faffed off with the ridiculous achievements though). I gave up after an hour on the rubbish mission pack and the demo for FEAR 2 was bloody awful.
Well for me the reason the FEAR games are so good is because Monolith know how to make in your face, visceral, gorey FPS combat.
Monolith's best game (by a country mile) is No One Lives Forever, which wasn't gory at all.
anephric
21-06-2011, 19:38
Fear 2's pretty good. It has more variety than the first, but then there are people who say putting you in a mech robs the game of most of its point. I liked it.
Can't say I'm fussed about this. I loved the PC version of the original so much that I bought it again when I got a 360 (ended up getting faffed off with the ridiculous achievements though). I gave up after an hour on the rubbish mission pack and the demo for FEAR 2 was bloody awful.
Monolith's best game (by a country mile) is No One Lives Forever, which wasn't gory at all.
I always like BLOOD 2
WeaselFierce
21-06-2011, 20:02
Currently making my way through F.E.A.R. 2 at the moment with a view to renting 3 on Friday. Ashamed to say, it's been on my 'to play' list for Donkey's years now and I've only just got around to playing it. :doh:
Enjoying it a lot. The gunplay is very solid. Blasting the snot out of the evil bad guys in slow motion never gets old.
The game hasn't had the same jumpy moments that F.E.A.R. gave but there's some nice atmospheric areas (the school for one!) and a nice mix of environments.
Can't say I'm fussed about this. I loved the PC version of the original so much that I bought it again when I got a 360 (ended up getting faffed off with the ridiculous achievements though). I gave up after an hour on the rubbish mission pack and the demo for FEAR 2 was bloody awful.
Monolith's best game (by a country mile) is No One Lives Forever, which wasn't gory at all.
Monolith certainly has a varied history, it's why I love them so much, but a lot of their history is rooted in violent, visceral FPS combat. Of course NOLF isn't like that but then my favourite Monolith game is FEAR probably followed closely by Blood/Shogo. :D Condemned 2 is way up their for me as well, not so much for the story (though I love it's bat**** insaneness) but more so for the first person melee combat. It hasn't been bettered by anyone else yet. Even now I still stick on the instant action modes to beat some bums around the head from time to time :D
Ah bloody hell I just love all their stuff. Consistently excellent developer who gets overlooked far too much. They even did a better Tron sequel than the actual film sequel did!
Fear 2's pretty good. It has more variety than the first, but then there are people who say putting you in a mech robs the game of most of its point. I liked it.
The mechs are great and it just makes me want a Shogo 2 even more so now *sigh*
Currently making my way through F.E.A.R. 2 at the moment with a view to renting 3 on Friday. Ashamed to say, it's been on my 'to play' list for Donkey's years now and I've only just got around to playing it. :doh:
Enjoying it a lot. The gunplay is very solid. Blasting the snot out of the evil bad guys in slow motion never gets old.
The game hasn't had the same jumpy moments that F.E.A.R. gave but there's some nice atmospheric areas (the school for one!) and a nice mix of environments.
If you enjoy the story/if it interests you then you should play the FEAR 2 Reborn DLC. It's canon and leads into FEAR 3. Or you can just watch a youtube playthrough if you don't fancy spending the cash :D
Since I've turned this into a Monolith love in post, might as well include a few videos of theirs :D
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With a fantastically cheesy Arnie style Conan voiceover:
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anephric
21-06-2011, 20:15
Shame they haven't ever discounted the expansion DLC (on 360 anyway) as it's worth playing through. Tis very short though.
Shame they haven't ever discounted the expansion DLC (on 360 anyway) as it's worth playing through. Tis very short though.
Aye it's only an hour or two long (max) from what I remember. They definitely upped the difficulty, was definitely more of a challenge than the main game.
AKPiggott
21-06-2011, 21:11
I always like BLOOD 2
I never played that. I vaguely remember the original, it had the BUILD engine didn't it? (same engine as Duke Nukem 3D)
Condemned 2 is way up their for me as well, not so much for the story (though I love it's bat**** insaneness) but more so for the first person melee combat.
Ugh, Condemned 2. I loved the original but the sequel totally tarnished it.
I thought Raven were your favourite developer anyways? Either way, they're both studios (IMO) who have fallen from grace over the last decade.
I never played that. I vaguely remember the original, it had the BUILD engine didn't it? (same engine as Duke Nukem 3D)
Ugh, Condemned 2. I loved the original but the sequel totally tarnished it.
I thought Raven were your favourite developer anyways? Either way, they're both studios (IMO) who have fallen from grace over the last decade.
Nah Monolith has always been my favourite studio/developer. Raven are a very close second though. I'd disagree about Monolith falling from grace too, if anything they are just as good as ever now. Condemned 2 is especially better than the first Condemned in many, many ways. It gets far too much **** as people didn't like the way the story went but from a gameplay point of view completely kicks Condemneds ass (repeatedly). It's why I continue to replay parts of it but never touch Condemned 1. I adore the combat system in that game, so much fun to play. FEAR 2's better than the original as well in many ways. I desperately want a Condemned 3 which continues 2's wonderfully insane story but we're never getting it so I can dream all I like. The downloadable game they're working on, Gotham City Impostors, has been getting great previews at E3 as well and who only knows what other big game they are working on next. Personally I want another game/series like NOLF. I love their horror stuff but they have a fantastic sense of humour which has been missing lately compared to their earlier titles. (though the Condemned and FEAR games have a wonderfully dark streak of humour)
AKPiggott
21-06-2011, 21:40
It wasn't just the story in Condemned 2, the game was totally devoid of real atmosphere and psychological horror (two things the original game did better than any other game I've played). Can't argue that the hand-to-hand combat and detective stuff was a lot better developed, they just ruined the rest of it.
And yeah, I miss NOLF's bizarre humour. I didn't like the second game in that series much (yes, again), but the humour was thankfully still intact (unicycle chase, anyone?). NOLF was also a great game at making you feel like a spy, although the stealth sections were awful.
[EDIT: Only just noticed Mr Woo posted the unicyle (tricycle?) chase in a video above. Awesome!]
[EDIT: Ohhhhh, that's right. You're on a tricycle chasing a Unicode. Class! :D]
It wasn't just the story in Condemned 2, the game was totally devoid of real atmosphere and psychological horror (two things the original game did better than any other game I've played). Can't argue that the hand-to-hand combat and detective stuff was a lot better developed, they just ruined the rest of it.
And yeah, I miss NOLF's bizarre humour. I didn't like the second game in that series much (yes, again), but the humour was thankfully still intact (unicycle chase, anyone?). NOLF was also a great game at making you feel like a spy, although the stealth sections were awful.
The psychological horror part due to how silly it gets I can agree with but C2 definitely had bags of atmosphere. Not as oppressive as C1 admittedly but still there in spades, just different. The hotel section being my favourite with some great jump scares. The bear chase too was terrific.
I actually worry about Monolith because their quirky sensibilities just don't fit with big FPS these days. I mean Gotham City Impostors had to be a downloadable title as a section of the studio wanted to work on something quirkier. They're a very creative studio and I don't want to see them stifled. Which is why I am very curious as to what their bigger game is going to be. Apparently Warners have been much better with their studios in recent years giving them more room to breathe so I'm wondering if they're working on a new engine, spending more time in developing a new IP etc. All I know is, as a FPS fan, I really want them to stick around.
AKPiggott
21-06-2011, 21:51
I wish they'd just do a NOLF 3. We're up to our boobs in pointless game sequels and that's one franchise that's just been shamefully deserted.
They're yet another studio who did their most interesting work when developing solely for the PC back in the day.
I wish they'd just do a NOLF 3. We're up to our boobs in pointless game sequels and that's one franchise that's just been shamefully deserted.
They're yet another studio who did their most interesting work when developing solely for the PC back in the day.
Unfortunately it will never happen. One of the ex Monolith devs talked about this on GAF. We'll never see a Condemned 3 as Condemned 2 sold so badly. We'll never see another NOLF as it's considered a dead brand, it didn't do the sales numbers. This along with the rights being split across various publishers means it's a no hoper. What we could hope for is something in that spirit rather than an an actual sequel. Their were rumours that they were doing a NOLF styled game with martial arts/melee and god I hope that's true but nothing whatsoever. I always keep an eye out for anything they are working on :D I guess it depends if Warners will let them take a chance or if they'll end up doing Call Of FEAR - Noones Condemned Forever set in the middle east.
AKPiggott
21-06-2011, 22:00
IIRC NOLF was never ported to any consoles, so it didn't have the chance to do the numbers that people expect nowadays.
Think that's something I sorely miss about the old PC gaming days, it wasn't so business oriented. Brave ideas and fresh-feeling games were a lot more commonplace.
fivebyfive
21-06-2011, 22:09
It wasn't just the story in Condemned 2, the game was totally devoid of real atmosphere and psychological horror (two things the original game did better than any other game I've played). Can't argue that the hand-to-hand combat and detective stuff was a lot better developed, they just ruined the rest of it.
this (apart from adding QTE crap the 2nd game had)
C2 was more of action game, it had nothing as good as the mannequin store from the 1st
IIRC NOLF was never ported to any consoles, so it didn't have the chance to do the numbers that people expect nowadays.
Think that's something I sorely miss about the old PC gaming days, it wasn't so business oriented. Brave ideas and fresh-feeling games were a lot more commonplace.
NOLF was ported to PS2. I played it on PC and then on PS2 for a laugh, it was quite an awful port :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khSGCzYDke0
Unfortunately due to rising costs of games these days that's why I'm worried we'll slowly lose Monoliths quirky side. I hope I'm completely wrong though.
this (apart from adding QTE crap the 2nd game had)
C2 was more of action game, it had nothing as good as the mannequin store from the 1st
The mannequin store was fantastic, still the freakiest part of the game. I loved it when they referenced it in the sequel. The bear chase for me though was just as good in terms of freaking out the player. This video still cracks me up even now :lol:
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:lol: That video is comedy GOLD!
anephric
21-06-2011, 22:58
The bear properly **** me up. Best bit in the game. Before you discover you could've just SHOUTED at it.
The bear properly **** me up. Best bit in the game. Before you discover you could've just SHOUTED at it.
Ok you win, you made me laugh with that :lol:
AKPiggott
22-06-2011, 07:19
The bear thing was just cheap horror IMO, nothing like the derelict Debenhams level in the first game with the mannequins and creepy Christmas music.
Tempted to buy this as its only £30 new - any-more reviews out?
Eight reviews on Metacritic, currently averaging a 78.
The consensus is that it has lost some of the "scare" factor & the single-player campaign has taken a dip in quality to make way for the co-op & multiplayer options.
hmmm, might wait for a price drop.
The consensus is that it has lost some of the "scare" factor & the single-player campaign has taken a dip in quality to make way for the co-op & multiplayer options.
shame, the first game had some great creepy moments, bargain bin for me then.
mr starface
22-06-2011, 13:09
Has this really got full coop?
If so definite buy as loved the first two and will be great to play through with a mate.
fivebyfive
22-06-2011, 18:43
GB's quick look of the game (their quick looks are always good)
http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/3/
Scores an 8 on Eurogamer & my copy arrived here at work earlier. :thumbs:
To note Eurogamer gave F.E.A.R 2 a 6/10 and scored the story expansion dlc higher..
To note Eurogamer gave F.E.A.R 2 a 6/10 and scored the story expansion dlc higher..
It was actually a ridiculously low 5 that they scored the previous release. :eek:
Still disappointed to read confirmation that the scares are lacking & the storyline remains a mess, but the main element, the combat, sounds really good. Also the difference in style-of-play between the two characters should make two playthroughs of the single-player, a must.
To note Eurogamer gave F.E.A.R 2 a 6/10 and scored the story expansion dlc higher..
I just bought FEAR 2 for £4.99 from BEE, thought I'd try that first as I missed it when it came out. Is 6/10 harsh?
Its no way a 6, but my point is they ripped the game apart and then scored the dlc (which is just the same, but more) a higher rating
"As such, Reborn is essentially a checklist of recognisable F.E.A.R. 2 tropes played out in interestingly designed, if thematically familiar, locations."
They're a bunch of muppets, and their reviews can't be trusted
Its no way a 6, but my point is they ripped the game apart and then scored the dlc (which is just the same, but more) a higher rating
"As such, Reborn is essentially a checklist of recognisable F.E.A.R. 2 tropes played out in interestingly designed, if thematically familiar, locations."
They're a bunch of muppets, and their reviews can't be trusted
Cool, so I haven't just wasted a fiver then and it's a decent game :)
Cool, so I haven't just wasted a fiver then and it's a decent game :)
It's one of the most satisfying shooters in the last few years. I know I'm a Monolith fanboy but don't worry, you haven't bought Resistance or DNF :D
Nothing I've seen of FEAR 3 has persuaded me that it's anything other than a FEAR game in name only. But it looks very fun to play and oooh lovely shotgun. I'm actually tempted to pick it up in the shop tomorrow....
Cool - thanks for that.
Hated Resistance 2 by the way :)
fivebyfive
23-06-2011, 16:18
don't believe the crap about Resistance, not the best game but not ****
Don't see what is wrong with fear 2 review score, unless you love the game you want alma's babies :gag:
From the babling in this thread, thought this was Monolith game but everything says its Day 1 studio game (unless they just did the ports)
Still disappointed to read confirmation that the scares are lacking & the storyline remains a mess, but the main element, the combat, sounds really good.
i agree, scares and the storyline should be important part
FEAR 3 Metacritic - 77% (http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/fear-3)
FEAR 2 Metacritic - 77% (http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-360/fear-2-project-origin)
:wave:
First session completed, made it to midway through the 3rd interval & currently enjoying it. Each level has been an improvement over the previous one so far. The combat is as excellent as ever, decent, aggressive A.I. combined with lovely, meaty gunfire sound-FX, even the opening pistol sounds good!
Definitely agree with the lack of proper scary moments & especially on Interval-2, that was more like playing Call of Duty. Thankfully Interval-3 felt more like the F.E.A.R. games of old, with some good creepy moments aided by sound-fx & music combos.
Highlight so far is when you get your first look at what I can only describe as a Haunted Dixons! ... Don't let that image fool you, it looks fantastic & was good fun.
Loving this! Both the single player and coop campaign is fun, the shooting feels really solid, weapons are meaty and the slow mo is always cool. I'm really enjoying the rank/challenge addition too, it doesn't get in the way but always gives you something to work toward and levelling up gives you perks like quicker health regeneration, extra ammo, etc
Awesome
LouBarlow
25-06-2011, 02:56
It's all a bit dull so far. Where's the auto-lock for aiming? Bah.
fivebyfive
25-06-2011, 17:25
The combat is good as ever (thats never been FEAR's problem) its the look of the game's level, once you get a few levels in its better than previous games. I would say the first 3 or so chapters are the worst the suburbs is where I though it got better but the game/level design is the same as every fear game. The challenges adds something new and its good idea to the template level design. Not at all scary or that ****** up so far, the standard fear attempt at horror
WeaselFierce
25-06-2011, 17:25
Pretty impressed with this. More so than I expected to be, to be honest. Movement and combat is extremely solid. The coop works very well offering a variety of ways to approach any given firefight. I particularly like the character movement and animation playing online too. It's always very solid and naturally fluid. No floatiness or jerkiness to it.
Finished this there now and it was a fun arcade shooter but it's certainly no FEAR game and nowhere as good as the first two (I could write a long boring post why but I won't and no it's not purely because Monolith isn't developing :D ). Some good combat though and I loved the pistol, reminded me of the pistol on Halo, very overpowered. Much better than the ****** pistol in FEAR 2. Atmosphere and scares were non existent though and every single one was blatantly signposted. Admittedly I was playing in coop but you can tell the games been completely designed with a coop experience in mind. I would certainly recommend it to anyone who likes coop shooters.
anephric
25-06-2011, 21:33
I've never found the F.E.A.R games particularly scary, though. It's hard to be scared when you're running out of fingers counting what films Monolith have ripped off. What's that, Alma? You've received a Cease and Desist notice from Hideo Nakata's lawyers? Goodness.
I've never found the F.E.A.R games particularly scary, though. It's hard to be scared when you're running out of fingers counting what films Monolith have ripped off. What's that, Alma? You've received a Cease and Desist notice from Hideo Nakata's lawyers? Goodness.
No I do agree, the first two never really scared me either. But there's usually been a few good jump scares and they are both incredibly atmospheric and creepy/foreboding all the way throughout. FEAR 3 isn't anything like that at all. It's a lot more arcadey in it's approach really, makes for some hectic combat :D
I've only played to the end of Level five but so far i'm still really enjoying it & finding it very much on par with the second game. Yes, the scare-factor is non-existent & it doesn't have much atmosphere either, but I could say the same for the last release. For me the FEAR games are all about the slo-mo enhanced FPS game-mechanic which this does very well & is easily on par with the previous release IMO.
Mr Woo, feel free to do a long, boring post on why you don't feel it lives up to the last game as i'm struggling to find any element that it doesn't do at least on a level par.
I've only played to the end of Level five but so far i'm still really enjoying it & finding it very much on par with the second game. Yes, the scare-factor is non-existent & it doesn't have much atmosphere either, but I could say the same for the last release. For me the FEAR games are all about the slo-mo enhanced FPS game-mechanic which this does very well & is easily on par with the previous release IMO.
Mr Woo, feel free to do a long, boring post on why you don't feel it lives up to the last game as i'm struggling to find any element that it doesn't do at least on a level par.
Ok i'll give it a shot but you'll all think I'm talking ******** anyway and some of these are very particular FEAR complaints :D
For a start I don't think it looks as good as FEAR 2. One of the things that really stood out in FEAR 2 was the lighting. Even if the engine wasn't too advanced compared to games at the time they really knew how to light the levels to maximum effect and it really stood out. If I can find my save games on PC I'll dig up a few areas I think looked really good. In FEAR 3 I didn't find the graphics to be as good except for one level in the rain which looked great. It's by no means bad of course but it doesn't look better than a 2 year old game. Even FEAR 1 had more effective lighting. (but of course looks technically worse)
Apart from the shotgun and pistol none of the other weapons are as good too. Now admittedly I used the shotgun and pistol the most as they were so god damn good but the feedback on the other weapons were better in the other games. There's a few reasons for this. There's a lot of little touches in the combat which I preferred in FEAR 2 and I found it's gore to be better as well.
For example, the Penetrator weapon was pants in FEAR 3 compared to the Hammerhead in previous games. In FEAR 2 when you were reloading you would see a release of pressure from the gun, you got a real sense of power from it and you would see enemies fly back and stick to walls/doors etc. You didn't really see so much of that in FEAR 3 and it was a weapon that you rarely seen too. Another weapon is the laser rifle. In FEAR 2 it would snap people in half but still attached to the spine and you'd see them lying there twisted in a bloody mess. Incredibly satisfying and made you want to use it any chance you get. In FEAR 3 they just go on fire and run around, a bit boring in comparison. Also in FEAR 2 you had the weapon that charred folk into skeletons :D Was gutted to see nothing like that in the new one. Also, the baddies with the backpacks in FEAR 2 were satisfying to shoot and the way they blew up in half with their limbs all over the place. In the new game they just sort of blow up into nothingness. Or at least the ones I shot did, unless I missed something.
Since you haven't finished the game yet I'll put this in spoilers, for me one enemy that shouldn't have been in it and one that should have the demon dogs were just a bit too far fetched which I know sounds silly but FEARS enemies have always been humans, mechs or a bit more supernatural ghostly apparitions etc. Demon dogs just didn't really fit for me. Also, I really wanted to see the brilliant assassins who disappear and appear attacking you. They were always fun to fight but nowhere to be seen
Preferred the mechs in FEAR 2 also. FEAR 3's are cool but there's one that sounds like you've got bloody Fox's Biscuit Tin cans stuck to your feet, put me right off. The one you get much later is really cool though.
The biggest bugbear for me though is the way the game just jumps around. There's no consistency and all of the locations are out of nowhere. The CGI scenes completely take me out of the game and break any sense of immersion the game may have. It doesn't feel organic. In both the previous FEAR games apart from the odd loading screen it never left your perspective and everything was ingame. It's something not many games do but I always appreciate it as it keeps me completely immersed. The way you go in a completely believable way from location to location just doesn't happen in FEAR 3, it all comes across as very random. I also mentioned the atmosphere and scares being non existent and this ties into that a bit. The scares are signposted well in advance and are obvious to spot. The other FEAR games had these too but they also had really good shock scares and surprises as well. In FEAR 3 it feels like you go into a monster closet spawn area, BOOM CGI cutscene, next area/level etc. You never really feel like you are going on a journey rather than just from one gamey level to the next. It doesn't flow well.The last level in FEAR 3 is absolutely bloody awful as well. The story in general is utter ********. Don't get me wrong, FEARs never been about the story for me really but it was especially bad in FEAR 3. I mean how come Armacham are essentially done for in FEAR 2, the executives are being arrested and they are basically ******. Then come FEAR 3 they are taking over cities and making phase soldiers etc! They are essentially the Umbrella Corporation :D
The challenges didn't really fit in for me and I thought they were a waste of time to be honest. They added absolutely nothing to the game and go completely against the spirit of the FEAR games. The cover system too, whilst being pretty damn great, along with the renegerative health, completely changes the way you play the game compared to using health packs. When you had health packs it encourages a more aggressive style of play since when you were tooled up you could just run in like a madman. FEAR was never about cover, FEAR 2 had some half arsed implementation but you just ignored it. I'm not saying this is even particularly bad, it's just not FEAR.
That all sounds like I hate FEAR 3 but I genuinely don't :lol: It does a lot of things I like. It goes back to the FEAR 1 style of shockwave for grenades/explosions. I love how hard it can be in places. FEAR 2 was a doddle in comparison. The AI are incredibly aggressive and it keeps you moving. The core combat with the shotgun and pistol are great and I never ever got bored of using them. I loved the Condemned references too, they were cool and entertaining. It's more of an arcade shooter with spawning enemies and a FEAR sheen rather than an actual FEAR game in my eyes. It's level design isn't as good either. It's a very entertaining coop experience with some cool combat but I'll be honest and say I'm glad it was a rental. I'll maybe pick it up again sometime in the future when it's really cheap.
Overall FEAR 1 still holds the crown as the best FEAR game for me, the combat in that is still the most visceral and exciting of the lot IMO.
Yes I know this is a long post but you asked! :D
Cheers for that, Woo. I love when people go into detail on what they do/don't like. I may not agree with much of what you said, but I appreciate the effort & who knows, I might think differently once I hopefully complete it later today.
Fever Dawg
26-06-2011, 08:25
Finished this there now
You can almost hear the Irish accent. :D
anephric
26-06-2011, 08:50
About the lighting in FEAR 2 - sometimes I thought it was pretty over the top and all that rim lighting, even on blood, made it look really synthetic, like plastic jam. I know they'd stuck it in because the Jupiter engine was getting on a bit, but still. The volumetric lighting is ace, though.
fivebyfive
26-06-2011, 11:32
finished the game in single player, it was ok, the trouble is the story has never been its strong point and the game suffers. I agree with some of Mr woo's essay on the game but found this better than F2.
Finished it earlier & apart from a lame final level, I enjoyed it & stick by my earlier assessment that it is on par with F2 which I also enjoyed. It occasionally looked really good but also at times it looked very average (the Bridge level). I have to agree that those demon fire-dog thingies were kinda lame & added nothing to the combat.
The story never really went anywhere but the cut-scenes were of a reasonable quality & I really liked the post-credits scene with the obscene number of exploding-heads. :lol:
Good choice of end music too during the credits.
Definitely will give it a further go playing as the other character. Looks like the game-mechanic will be sufficiently different enough to keep it fresh.
Finished this earlier on Insane with my coop buddy. Took us around 5 - 6 hours maximum and was still good fun, combat in this is great fun. Some spots we expected to be tricky due to our first playthrough weren't as we knew how to cooperate and use the abilities much better too. Still some very hard parts though, especially the section were you have to shoot out generators whilst defending against an onslaught of bad guys . I'd hate to play this in single player on Insane, bound to be nails. A bit of advice for anyone that does though, when reviving your partner or when they are reviving you, whoever has slow mo use it. The reviving bar is still as fast as normal yet everythings slowed down making life easy. The challenges you complete after one runthrough make it a bit easier too. My slo mo bar was a lot bigger and my health better etc due to these challenges being completed.
I wish there was an option to turn the notifications off though. Just the rank up notification would be fine if they want to include the system. The biggest problem is that you can complete the challenges repeatedly. Now I don't mean problem as in it's wrong, just that it means you are consistently getting pop ups and things letting you know that you are on your way to another challenge completion. Even a few options to let you change how it's displayed ingame would be nice.
Still, had a lot of fun with it. Very fun game. Only did a few levels with Fettel as I always played Point Man in coop so might finish that up. If anyone fancies a bit of Contractions too give us a shout. Fettel really is a bit like god mode isnt he ? Seriously the only thing he doesn't have is slow mo and in coop he gets that too! :D
Where the hell is the option to play ******* Run. Can't see anywhere to select it on the MP menu? All I've got is Soul King and Contractions game types.
Where the hell is the option to play ******* Run. Can't see anywhere to select it on the MP menu? All I've got is Soul King and Contractions game types.
Retail game comes with a pass to unlock them. If you have a rental like me you won't get those 2 modes.
LouBarlow
29-06-2011, 19:20
This game is a buggy piece of toss. I've played through interval 3 three times now and it glitches at the same point. Life is too short so back it goes. Useless **** on a stick.
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