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Anyone know anything about the rumor of a UK release for Disney's Sleeping Beauty? If it's true, will this be basically the same extras-packed, 2-DVD widescreen set that's currently available in Germany?
Its up for pre-order at Play.com, though there's not much in the way of details yet.
saltysam
23-02-2002, 21:36
why not buy the german release?it will be identical.just got hunchback of notre dame 2 from amazon de,the disc is in english-in fact i think i will go and order that sleeping beauty disc now!
Actually, it's pretty unlikely the UK and German versions will be completely identical: apparently quite a few of the extras on the German DVD include German dialogue recorded over the English language track and largely obscuring the original audio! That's the main reason I'm so interested in the English release. Anyone know when it's going to be released or know of any more details? I don't even see it listed at bensonsworld.
I may be out of line here but from what I've read it's the same all over Europe except Germany: 4:3 and a cople of extras.
This is what is on the Swedish release:
Sound in DD 5.1 ( English and Nordic languages )
Making of..
Gallery
Save Aurora Game
Paintbook
Work copies
And it's in 4:3
I have seen no other specs for this release so I expect the UK edition to be mutilated as well.
Sorry.
Ericf
very sad. if anyone has any different information, any ray of hope would be welcome...
Originally posted by Gypo66
very sad. if anyone has any different information, any ray of hope would be welcome...
France is getting the same DVD version as Germany soon ( no date ):
http://www.dvdfurax.com/default.asp?id=2089&c_datedeb=17/02/2002c_datefin=24/02/2002
Translation:
After the success of White snow and the seven dwarves , Disney will propose great classic Sleeping Beauty in standard edition (disc 1) and collector (+ disc 2).
Here the detail of this edition:
- Disc 1: the film + the making of + the play " save Aurore " + Art Attack
- Disc 2: files of film (graphic search, design of the characters...) + production of the film (music, restoration, comparison of the formats...) + the album of the film (material advertising executive, photographs...) + the history (genesis of the project, first synopses...) + history of Tchaïkovski + tests of Technirama + of documentary of time...
Format: Cinemascope 2.35 - 16/9
the film is labellisé THX and SDR
Languages: English and French in Dolby DIGITAL 5.1, French SDR
Subtitles in English and French
So one can hope for a possible UK release in the same format?
More on the French edition here:
http://www.devildead.com/newsh.php3
Ericf
I've done some investigating into the Sleeping Beauty confusion myself and found the following on the BBFC website:
<B>Sleeping Beauty DVD Deluxe Bonus Compilation</B> (91m 6s) consisting of:<PRE><FONT SIZE +1>
00:16:04:24 | FOUR ARTISTS PAINT 1 TREE
00:28:51:19 | GRAND CANYON
00:29:05:01 | THE PETER TCHAIKOVSKY STORY
00:05:55:03 | WIDESCREEN COMPARISON
00:01:03:23 | CREATING THE BACKGROUNDS
00:00:59:01 | LIVE ACTION REFERENCE
00:01:40:02 | ORIGINAL TEASER
00:01:23:13 | 1995 TRAILER
00:03:08:22 | 1959 TRAILER
00:02:53:21 | THE RESTORATION
</FONT></PRE>
<P>
as well as <B>Seeping Beauty DVD Bonus Compilation</B> (32m 38s) consisting of:<PRE><FONT SIZE +1>
00:16:18:24 | SLEEPING BEAUTY - DELUXE DVD - THE MAKING OF SLEEPING BEAUTY
00:01:27:08 | SLEEPING BEAUTY - DELUXE DVD - STORYBOARD TO FILM COMPARISON - THE CAPTURE OF THE PRINCE
00:01:27:08 | SLEEPING BEAUTY - DELUXE DVD - STORYBOARD - THE CAPTURE OF THE PRINCE
00:02:49:16 | SLEEPING BEAUTY - DELUXE DVD - STORY REEL - THE FAIRIES PUT THE CASTLE TO SLEEP
00:03:19:05 | SLEEPING BEAUTY - DELUXE DVD - THE DESIGN
00:02:42:20 | SLEEPING BEAUTY - DELUXE DVD - THE MUSIC
00:04:32:24 | ART ATTACK TRAILER - ENGLISH FANTASY CASTLE - STEREO MIX: 1&2 M&E: 3&4
</FONT></PRE>
<P>
There is a widescreen version of the film that has been recertified recently too.
From this I come to two conclusions:
1) Disney are indeed going to release two versions on Monday, the standard and collectors edition as done with Snow White and the upcoming Atlantis. (I find this unlikely given the serious lack of publicity this late in the day)
2) More likely, Disney intended to release two versions at one point, but ultimately decided to release the single disc version only.
<B>The Point here is two versions were planned, as with Atlantis. Atlantis is to be P&S on the single disc version and I would not be surprised if Disney UK butcher the greatest Animated film of all time by releasing this P&S only</B>
I would strongly recommend that you seriously consider cancelling your pre-orders until this confusion is sorted out or better yet, wait for the inevitable American release which is sure to be done right.
You may be waiting a very long time for that inevitable American release. According to Disney and BVHE sources it will most likely be years before this beauty sees the light of day...
Well, I've just cancelled my order with Blackstar and ordered the 2 disc set from Amazon.Fr.
I can't belive that Disney is paying some muppet vast amounts of money to decide to release such works of art in 4:3 only. I mean, do these people have a clue? :confused:
Does anyone know the subtitling policy of Disney released discs in France?
2099net -- just out of curiousity, why are you going for the French edition rather than the German one?
I believe he does so because the French hasn't ( to my knowledge ) overdubbed the special features. These are subbed in French. If I'm wrong, it could be price and availability.
Ericf
Yeah. Pretty much - I'd heard that the German edition has been overdubbed on the special features, while the French release is an unknown quantity at this time :(
I got my French Will & Grace DVDs yesterday and was disappointed to see enforced French subtitles if the original English soundtrack is selected. Still, at least I've got Will and Grace and you soon get used to it.
Does anyone know how previous French Disney/B Vista discs have implemented the various subtitles/languages?
I would rather have the full Widescreen release, even if French subtitles are enforced by the disc than the UK release.
Since the french version is supposed to have both french and english subtitles I dont' think there will be forced subs on this one. I do wonder about the Princess Mononoke DVD though. The special collectors version that will be released at the end of the year might have forced subs. I don't think the versions that are out now have that.
Ericf
2099net - if you could post the specs on the French edition here when you get it that would be great as I'm thinking of going for this too, bit worried about the subtitles though (film & extras)....
saltysam
28-02-2002, 09:29
the german hunchback 2 dvd which was released at the same time,actually has an option when you load the disc to select english,may be different for sleeping beauty but i think it will be highly unlikely the subs on the film at least will be forced...
...FYI here are some more (inconclusive) specs for the French CE:
http://www.dvdfr.com/dvd/fiche.php3?id=5280
...scheduled for release on April 24 2002...
. . . :o . . .
I think the basic question that needs to be answered is can we watch the film and all the extras in the English language without any forced subtitles. This will sway my decision to buy or not.
Originally posted by rwoolst
2099net - if you could post the specs on the French edition here when you get it that would be great as I'm thinking of going for this too, bit worried about the subtitles though (film & extras)....
Well the Amazon.Fr site has a brief list of specifications (a search for 'belle bois' should return it - 'Sleeping Beauty' only returns the standard release) and a translated spec sheet is available on http://www.r2-dvd.org/ in their rumour section.
When all is said and done, I personally would like to have the widescreen film over the 4:3 UK release regardless of forced subtitles or not. Extras would be nice, but the film is the reason for buying the disc in the first place. Besides my favorite features on Disney Animated Discs are the design galleries. I can always look at them regardless of the language :)
gavinhanly
28-02-2002, 14:05
Why aren't Disney releasing 2 disc versions in the UK? I thought the Snow White collectors edition did rather well?
Seems a very odd decision to make...especially as most people will already have these films on video, and it's mainly the collectors which will be swayed into buying new versions. But it's the collectors that are the hardest to please...
It makes no sense!!!:confused:
Originally posted by gavinhanly
Why aren't Disney releasing 2 disc versions in the UK? I thought the Snow White collectors edition did rather well?
Seems a very odd decision to make...especially as most people will already have these films on video, and it's mainly the collectors which will be swayed into buying new versions. But it's the collectors that are the hardest to please...
It makes no sense!!!:confused:
Plus the extras and a widescreen version of the film have recently been certified by the BBFC! It's almost certain that a UK 2 Disc set was to be released... until some muppet as Disney stopped it.
Presumably the same muppet who insists on 4:3 cropping for the single disc 'family' editions!
Take a look at this:
http://www.r2-dvd.org/article.jsp?sectionId=3&articleId=3616
Apparently when Andy asked for a review copy of the disc from Disney UK he was sent the collector's edition 2nd Disc!
What the hell is going on. Why is it so hard to obtain the proper technical specs for a disc to be released in three days?!?
I poped in to the DISNEY store on saturday & asked about this, & its going to be a low key single disc relase of Sleeping Beauty, with all the hype going to Atlantas movie comeing out on the same day.:(
Anybody got ant more info on that French relase yet?
MrLondon
04-03-2002, 21:49
I went today to every major shop in Reading, but none had Sleeping beauty. So I don't know either must have moved the release date or they don't stock it. So maybe I should get the German release but I am afraid that all the extras are in German too (even though I am German I would like the original)
MrLondon
Well, after all the fuss I made, I picked this up yesterday.
(I know, I know :brickwall)
I'm a little worried about the status of subtitles on the French release as some retailers are not reporting English Subtitles on the disc (but still have it on order anyway).
Anyhow, I have never seen the film in it's original widescreen scope, and viewing the film again (especially the opening section with the storybook) did look a little cramped. Apart from that the film was spellbinding - the animation is top class, the colours leap out of the screen and Maleficent is the best Disney villain of all time.
However, I'm not sure if this print was taken from the recently restored version - although intentional a times (such as to simulate light cast by fires) the colours seemed to fade and shimmer at inappropriate times (such as in the woods). I will check this out in more detail over the weekend.
A nice surprise was that the character designs have been included on the disc, as well as the 'making of' documentary and Storyboard to film comparisons (the latter two of which I have not yet viewed). The character designs presented in virtual galleries like in Snow White. There is of course no widescreen to Pan and Scan comparison on this disc like there is on the European 2-disc set.
I have still written to B/Vista UK though to express my disappointment regarding the lack of special edition in the UK, and am looking forward to viewing this beautiful film in it's orginal aspect ratio when my French set arrives at the end of April.
CrazyHorse
08-03-2002, 18:08
If you do hear from B/Vista UK about a possible widescreen SE, please let us all know mate!
I'd love to get the French edition if it had an English audio track and I could use my poxy debit card to order it, but I don't know of anywhere that accepts Solo cards in Europe!
Originally posted by CrazyHorse
If you do hear from B/Vista UK about a possible widescreen SE, please let us all know mate!
I'd love to get the French edition if it had an English audio track and I could use my poxy debit card to order it, but I don't know of anywhere that accepts Solo cards in Europe!
Well, it certainly has an English Audio track - the question is will it have forced French subtitles? Some sites are reporting English subs for the disc, while others report French only.
Over in the suppliers forum some guys are trying to arrange a co-buy of the French 2 disc set - I may be worth popping over and contacting them.
CrazyHorse
08-03-2002, 18:45
Thanks for the pointer, I'll take a look in the suppliers forum now.
Well I've looked at some of the special features in more detail now and have a few comments:
1) The 15 min or so Making Of Feature discusses the fact that the film was made in 70mm scope and shows (for a couple of seconds) a widescreen shot of the Princess walking through the forest - which looks absolutely stunning. Makes me resent the UK release even more. I can see now just what I have been missing having never seen the film in widescreen before.
2) The character design galleries are the same as Snow White, with a virtual tour round rendered rooms. Sadly, unlike Snow White there are no voice overs on selected images.
3) Unlike other Disney discs which feature Storyboards, it is not possible to flip between the boards and the film by using the remote angle button. Still, the storyboards are well worth talking a look at, as they are presented in the original widescreen aspect.
There rest of the supplements are simply fluff - although to be fair the game is incredibly well presented - much better than any other Disney DVD game I have seen.
This is only my own speculation but to be honest, it's probably too well presented, so I would expect Disney US to have had a hand in it's creation. A R1 release for Sleeping Beauty this year perhaps? :D
steve lucas
13-03-2002, 18:15
My German Copy arrived today (2 days) from Amazon.de. Wow.. the film .. I got the R2 from play and for a few quid more you get the full anamorphic panavision version. plus the extras.
Disc 1 : English or German 5.1 no enforced subtitles ... superb.. I'd pay the extras for this version over UK version any day. As other posts have commented, the second disc is german text only... my smattering of german is just enough to get by on.... but this is quite easy stuff...
Much more difficult was mastering the amazon.de site to place order. They had obviously already got my details from Amazon.com... including old credit card details from two years ago.. so had to struggle through german menus to update card details
Still .. it must have worked, cos here is the disc and the film is top notch.. Cost me £18 inc delivery. So guess the UK disc will be in my neice's Xmas present. Wait for the French version.. if you want to take a chance on the extras.. but if you want the film as it is meant to be...now.... don't buy UK version
not sure
17-03-2002, 21:29
Its another case of "shaft us please, were British!"
1 disk for the UK, 2 Disk "Deluxe" for France Germany...
I got my copy of AI on Thursday From Australia only cost £12.20p called into HMV today to ask how much it will "err... £19.99" So for it to be posted from Australia cost LESS then to buy 1/2 a mile away :nuts:
And now "Brussels" want to add tax to things we buy from outside the "EU"
In the words of the Immortal Guv "BACK OFF BRUSSELS!"
Any one got any more info on the french relase yet?
discodel
15-05-2002, 11:45
It appears that Sleeping Beauty 2-disc is now down for a release. Check here http://www.r2-dvd.org/article.jsp?sectionId=3&articleId=4075 :clap:
Wendelius
15-05-2002, 12:01
I got my 2 disc edition form DVD Zone 2 ( http://www.dvdzone2.com/cgi-bin/en/OM.cgi?command=showitems&pos=0&type=search&search=5532 )
It's widescreen. The only thing that might put some people off, I guess, is that it's got a French DTS soundtrack but only a DD5.1 English one. Still, I doubt it's a reference DTS soundtrack anyway (haven't listened to it yet).
Wendelius
adamvbarker
15-05-2002, 12:38
Here's what I wrote about the french 2 disk set in a thread in the supplier forum a while ago:
"disk 1:
Once you've selected english on the first screen you wouldn't know it was a french disk apart from the titles on the trailers (which you can skip) coming up in french. The film is anamorphic 2.35:1. The 'making of' doc is in english with no (or optional perhaps) french subs.
disk 2:
is much more french-ified. The menus are all in french, with no english options in sight. Text-based stuff like the background to the story and the 1951 synopsis are in french only.
Short interviews about the music and the restoration etc are in english but with french dubbed over the top (like on the news) that makes it hard to hear the english.
There is a gigantic amount of graphic material that doesn't need explanation in any language - posters, photos, storyboards, film of actors on bare soundstages acting out the characters movements for the artists to study and copy.
The docu-fiction abut Tchaikovsky and the '4 artists paint a tree' feature are in english with french subs that seem to be forced.
The oscar winning short about the Grand Canyon - nonanamorphic cinemascope - has no words, only music.
If all this french seems too much for you, the 'comparison entre image respectee et image recadree' might sway you. It shows, on the top and bottom of the same screen, clips from the movie in the cinemascope version and the panandscan version. Guess which looks nicer.
I would say that a non-french speaker would still get a lot out of disk 2, but navigating it might be a bit random."
(The thread was
here (http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60205&perpage=35&highlight=sleeping%20beauty&pagenumber=1) )
Originally posted by discodel
It appears that Sleeping Beauty 2-disc is not down for a release. Check here http://www.r2-dvd.org/article.jsp?sectionId=3&articleId=4075 :clap:
But it is!! check the list - Sleeping Beauty deluxe 4 Nov !!
discodel
15-05-2002, 13:57
My typing skills are not up to scratch today. I did mean to say NOW and not NOT. :D
But it is!! check the list - Sleeping Beauty deluxe 4 Nov !!
Which resulted in another E-Mail to Disney, asking for an explanation of why the UK release is staggered from the single disc version, and why they haven't replied to my other three enquiries (2 emails and 1 snail mail) as to the status of the UK 2-disc set.
Unsurprisingly I haven't had a reply to this e-mail either, even though it was sent over one week ago.
Well, I've had it with Disney UK. I have never seen such cynical marketing for a DVD yet. We all knew the 2 disc version was prepeared, and when questioned about it's release Disney refused to even respond.
I will never again buy a R2 Disney release - from any of their various film brands. While I like to support R2 releases in general, I fail to see why Disney deserves support - from me, or anyone else on these forums. From now on I will always buy R1 releases - no doubt with better quality and a lower price.
I know that there are some problems with pan and scan on some Disney R1 releases at the moment, but at least the American branch listerns to its customers rather than simply ignoring them. :confused:
Roy Batty
27-05-2002, 23:57
However, I'm not sure if this print was taken from the recently restored version - although intentional a times (such as to simulate light cast by fires) the colours seemed to fade and shimmer at inappropriate times (such as in the woods). I will check this out in more detail over the weekend.
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You are indeed sadly right.
I've got the french widescreen 2-disc set, and it shows the same problem, quite noticeable and distracting.
That's too bad, because that bit aside, the print look gorgeous, with clear definition and well saturated colors, and it's certainly a beauty to watch in all its 2.35:1 glory.
But there's definitely a constant shimmering throughout the whole movie, specially annoying in horizontal camera pans following action (it worsens and becomes almost a gray, cloudy fog!).
Let's hope they fix it for the foreseeable USA release, whenever that comes.
:(
vanmunchen
28-05-2002, 07:23
I have the French 2-disc set and I was particularly interested in seeing Grand Canyon, not having seen this Oscar winning short before. Unfortunately the picture quality is really disappointing with a soft look throughout and non-anamorphic widescreen. the colours also look muddy. This type of film, showing natural scenary, needs the best quality picture to be appreciated and it's a pity Disney could not do a better restoration job on this. I'm not sure if this was on the laser disc - if it was, it was probably taken from the print produced for that, without any extra restoration for the DVD.
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