The Manchester United Thread – 09/10 Season - League Cup Winners [Archive]

rustybin

13-07-2009, 14:09

1000+ posts in the old tread - time for a new one.

If Fergie has indeed stopped buying, it's going to be a massive season for Berb and Nani. Also hope to see Tosic and Macheda break into the first team.

MrC

13-07-2009, 14:36

If Fergie has indeed stopped buying, it's going to be a massive season for Berb and Nani. Also hope to see Tosic and Macheda break into the first team.

Were talking about THE wisest wizard in the business here.

I would take it all with a 'huge' pinch of salt..........:thumbs:

Francis

13-07-2009, 14:37

You post and article in which SAF says:

"It is the end of our business, so all these stories about who were are supposed to be getting - forget it."

.... and your only concern is what number shirt Owen will be wearing?!
Alex Ferguson, you might be familiar with him, he's managed our club for about 200 years, hates the media and uses them to his own ends at the best of times.

Not long ago he told them he wouldn't sell Real a virus.

Maybe we won't buy anyone else, I'd be surprised if we didn't, but doubt Fergie actually means it when he gives the media a nice headline.

DavidHasslehoff

13-07-2009, 14:40

Where did that £80million go?

Tampa Bay? :lol:

rustybin

13-07-2009, 14:43

Were talking about THE wisest wizard in the business here.

I would take it all with a 'huge' pinch of salt..........:thumbs:

Yeah, I agree. It's all games.

Ashley Young is high on my wish-list. TBH, when you look at who's out there and what we've already got, there are only a small number of established players available who would improve our starting 11 anyway.

We'll probably buy a few more youngsters.

6babe

13-07-2009, 14:53

Hope Hargreaves recovers. That'll be like a new signing.

evilsly

13-07-2009, 14:56

owen gets #7

a little part of most united fans dies.

fattyboombatty

13-07-2009, 15:17

who should he have given it to

jpig

13-07-2009, 15:23

A bit of me agrees with Ferguson though, as much as I wanted another couple of signings. The transfer market has gone mad and average players are going for big big bucks. Some of the clubs that are dabbling in the market now may very well come to regret it when it comes to moving those players on. Can the likes of Liverpool who are still waiting to get their infrastructure in place in the form of the new stadium really afford to compete with the blank cheques of Real, City and to a lesser extent Chelsea?

Maybe sitting it out and strengthening in January is a wiser move. As long as the £80 million is still there for Fergie to use and it doesn't disappear into plugging the debt I think it could leave us well placed when things settle down a bit.

"You can't win anything with kids" remember. Maybe Fergie sees something in the squad he has which we have yet to 'get'.

Art Vanderlay

13-07-2009, 15:28

I am not keen on Owen getting the #7 shirt either. But it may be a good bit of man management by Sir Alex, to try to get Owen to live up to the shirt number.

The other option was to leave it vacant in the hope of a big signing coming in. But I do tend to think that might well be it, as rustybin say maybe a youngster or 2.

I wonder if Fergie has learnt his lesson a bit with Berbatov, in that by signing him so late he was always playing catch up in terms of fitness and tactics. Maybe better to stick with what we have (considering there are not that many obvious options available) and make sure we are 100% ready to go for the start of the season.

Saying that, I would be as delighted as anyone if we unveil Aguero, Eto'o and Douglas Costa tomorrow ;)

pmdf

13-07-2009, 15:49

Were talking about THE wisest wizard in the business here.

I would take it all with a 'huge' pinch of salt..........:thumbs:

Exactly... what's he going to do - wave the £80m around and ask who wants a bite? He's basically saying that we won't be held to ransom over transfer fees. At least I hope that's the case!

D J Fryer

13-07-2009, 16:32

I wouldn't be too fussed if we did no more business. I think we have a good crop of yougsters that mean we'll be challenging on all fronts again. Would also be nice to show we can compete with what we've got - Berbatov shows even 'proven' signings don't always work out as well as we'd like either.

It's a judgment that only Fergie can make. If he's right, he cements his legendary status. If he's wrong the same fans that called for him to give up a few years ago will be doing the same again.

gingertom

13-07-2009, 16:49

Exactly... what's he going to do - wave the £80m around and ask who wants a bite? He's basically saying that we won't be held to ransom over transfer fees. At least I hope that's the case!
:thumbs: spot on - Fergie has always liked a gamble and he's calling everyone's bluff - be interesting to see how it all develops

rustybin

13-07-2009, 17:14

For those saying Utd treated Tevez unfairly: -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8148073.stm

Fergie direct quotes:-

"I half expected Tevez would be going a long time back," said the Scot

"I spoke to him and gave him an offer on the night we played Inter Milan (in March) and he never came back to me.

"I phoned him on holiday and he never got back to me and I texted him twice and he never got back to me then either, so obviously he had made his mind up a long time ago.

"He was a good player and did well for us. But he obviously assessed the situation and wanted to go somewhere else."

Apep

13-07-2009, 17:36

DavidHasslehoff

13-07-2009, 17:55

For those saying Utd treated Tevez unfairly: -

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8148073.stm

Fergie direct quotes:-

"I half expected Tevez would be going a long time back," said the Scot

Of course he did. I don't think anyone would doubt that. SAF knew that Tevez was likely to be unhappy being behing Berbatov in the pecking order as he knew Tevez was playing better - and he knew that Tevez knew it too!

But other factors meant the SAF needed to give Berbatov every chance to succeed.

Pisces Iscariot

13-07-2009, 17:58

...he knew Tevez was playing better

So United didn't have a better record in games that Berbatov started compared to games that Tevez started?

jermainejones

13-07-2009, 18:43

To the thread starter: it should be Ronnie and not Ronney.

jermainejones

13-07-2009, 18:45

Looks like we are back in forp this Douglas kid. From the 8 second clip I've seen of him on Skysports news, lets sign him, up :D

andybhoy

13-07-2009, 18:54

Owen got the number 7 shirt for symbolic reasons.

(because that's how many games he's going to play for us).

Hoff - Tevez was **** last seasom.

unrealnils

13-07-2009, 19:06

Best rid of him then; his personality is as ugly as his face.

bit harsh there considering how he got hisface and as a result doesnt want to get surgery ;)

DavidHasslehoff

13-07-2009, 19:22

So United didn't have a better record in games that Berbatov started compared to games that Tevez started?
So you'll be dropping Ferdinand then? :lol:

DavidHasslehoff

13-07-2009, 19:24

Hoff - Tevez was **** last seasom.
:lol:

Another classic ManU fan.

jermainejones

13-07-2009, 19:25

:lol:

Another classic ManU fan.

why do use ManU here, but ManYoo elsewhere?

unrealnils

13-07-2009, 19:28

Rossi should have the number 7 , ;) i think that boys class why cant milan buy him ;(

andybhoy

13-07-2009, 19:29

bit harsh there considering how he got hisface and as a result doesnt want to get surgery ;)

Why is it harsh? He's ugly - I'm not talking about the scarring - he'd be just as ugly without it. Surely it's just as bad to call someone who was born ugly (as tevez was) as someone who gets disfigured?

jermainejones

13-07-2009, 19:32

With the amount of money he earns, he could also get his teeth fixed.

jdor

13-07-2009, 20:34

:lol:

Another classic ManU fan.

yawn, another classic but dull WUM

campdave

13-07-2009, 20:38

:lol:

Another classic ManU fan.

I wish I had a quid everytime you laboured the point. We get it, United fans are fickle.

Fever Dawg

14-07-2009, 06:49

Alex Ferguson, you might be familiar with him, he's managed our club for about 200 years, hates the media and uses them to his own ends at the best of times.

Not long ago he told them he wouldn't sell Real a virus.

Maybe we won't buy anyone else, I'd be surprised if we didn't, but doubt Fergie actually means it when he gives the media a nice headline.

Whether he means it or not it's still more of talking point than what ******* number shirt Owen will be wearing!

If we are going to be that holy about the 7 shirt it should have been retired after the King hung his boots up ....

Crikey!

14-07-2009, 10:51

If we are going to be that holy about the 7 shirt it should have been retired after the King hung his boots up ....

good auto affiliating there then!

Fever Dawg

14-07-2009, 11:55

I know. What's that all about? :nuts:

andybhoy

14-07-2009, 16:28

Whether he means it or not it's still more of talking point than what ******* number shirt Owen will be wearing!

If we are going to be that holy about the 7 shirt it should have been retired after the King hung his boots up ....

Can we not maybe have more than one talking point at a time, or will you just let us know what we can and can't discuss in advance?

I don't really care that Owen has it - I am hopeful he'll do well enough but it is a special shirt number for us. It's had some of the best players in the world. So yes, people may be a bit precious about it.

andybhoy

14-07-2009, 16:31

:lol:

Another classic ManU fan.

5 league goals. And 50 newspaper whines.

I've been pretty consistent - I liked him till he started spouting his ugly mouth off. I now think of him in much the same way I regard Mo Johnstone.

MrC

14-07-2009, 17:49

5 league goals. And 50 newspaper whines.

I've been pretty consistent - I liked him till he started spouting his ugly mouth off. I now think of him in much the same way I regard Mo Johnstone.

Ditto.

Whenever you leave your workplace for another 'job' you should always leave on good terms, even if they were ***** to work for.

Cannot wait now for the 20th September. If carlito thinks the utd fans are all behind him, boy is he in for one big surprise :lol:

Just keep talking son, keep talking..............

MrC

14-07-2009, 17:54

Interesting, just 'stole this off a ROM poster. If they get Adebayor as looks likely, this will be the bitters striking options

Strikers: Santa Cruz, Adebayor, Tevez, Bellamy, Valeri Bojinov, Benjani, Felipe Caicedo, Ched Evans…

So, no problems being first choice there eh carlito? :lol:

evilsly

14-07-2009, 18:04

Robinho too

andybhoy

14-07-2009, 18:16

And sturridge.

If they get adebayor, I'd say that tevez would be their 4th best striker (perhaps almost on a par with santa crz, who scores more than tevez)

platty

14-07-2009, 18:26

And sturridge.

If they get adebayor, I'd say that tevez would be their 4th best striker (perhaps almost on a par with santa crz, who scores more than tevez)

Sturridge has gone to Chelsea

andybhoy

14-07-2009, 19:29

Oh!

evilsly

14-07-2009, 19:36

surgical use of the ignore function, makes this thread so much nicer :)

DavidHasslehoff

14-07-2009, 20:28

5 league goals. And 50 newspaper whines.

I've been pretty consistent - I liked him till he started spouting his ugly mouth off. I now think of him in much the same way I regard Mo Johnstone.
Some of you keep spouting off about 5 league goals, but the truth (and the reason that both you and Chelsea ended up trying to sign him) is that Tevez was the source of 40 of Utd's 119 goals last season - and this from a player who spent a considerable amount of time on the bench watching Berbatov jogging.

That is a quite staggering statistic.

(P.S. At the end of last season, why weren't the Utd fans chanting, "Fergie, Fergie, don't sign him up, he's only scored 5 league goals all season"? Was it that the chant was too long and complex or something? :lol: )

andybhoy

14-07-2009, 20:51

I think you're right, evilsy.

I sure will miss his 5 league goals - that is after all 3 more than macheda - a man who arguably did more for utds league campaign last year... (no made up statistics or misrepresentstions needed).

I see tevez was in the media lying again today. Apparently fergie only ever spoke to him once amd never tried to sign him. Yet tevez himself had earlier said that he did.

DavidHasslehoff

14-07-2009, 21:06

pivotalgubbins

14-07-2009, 21:49

surgical use of the ignore function, makes this thread so much nicer :)

So true, just added my first and this thread is certainly less boring!

TheDot

14-07-2009, 22:12

Just used the ignore list for the first time myself too. Much better :)

Mock

14-07-2009, 22:45

Some of you keep spouting off about 5 league goals, but the truth (and the reason that both you and Chelsea ended up trying to sign him) is that Tevez was the source of 40 of Utd's 119 goals last season

Where did you get those statistics from?

15 goals and 6 assists are the stats I have.

DavidHasslehoff

14-07-2009, 22:48

Where did you get those statistics from?

15 goals and 6 assists are the stats I have.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/20/carlos-tevez-manchester-united-chelsea-target

Ok, so I know it's the Guardian, but still.....

Mock

14-07-2009, 23:00

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jun/20/carlos-tevez-manchester-united-chelsea-target

Ok, so I know it's the Guardian, but still.....

With Ronaldo expected to complete his world record £80m transfer to Real Madrid next week, Tevez's decision means United have lost the source of 40 of their 119 goals in all competitions last season

I think you'll find that article mentions the combined stats of Tevez and Ronaldo.

Ronaldo's stats http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=22774&cc=5739

Tevez's stats http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=72490&cc=5739

Sam

15-07-2009, 04:18

I've not used the ignore function for a long time but its now in use for me too. :thumbs:

Citysmith

15-07-2009, 06:50

I've not used the ignore function for a long time but its now in use for me too. :thumbs:

Who are you all ignoring? :suspect:

campdave

15-07-2009, 06:57

Where did you get those statistics from?

15 goals and 6 assists are the stats I have.

He's got those stats by mis-reading the guardian article. 5 Tevez goals and 35 from Ronaldo = 40

Despite their initial reluctance to meet the option price agreed when Tevez joined the club on loan in 2007 the Argentinian's exit represents a significant setback for Sir Alex Ferguson, who rang the forward frequently during his holiday in the south of France in an attempt to convince him to stay. With Ronaldo expected to complete his world record £80m transfer to Real Madrid next week, Tevez's decision means United have lost the source of 40 of their 119 goals in all competitions last season. United will now intensify efforts to entice the Lyon forward Karim *Benzema to Old Trafford.

the_edge30

15-07-2009, 07:28

He's got those stats by mis-reading the guardian article. 5 Tevez goals and 35 from Ronaldo = 40

:lol:

Anyway, Tevez is now a City player, id suggest that any more talk of him should be in the city thread.

So Evil lad, whats the talk re Fergie not buying anyone else? What ya hearing on the grapevine?

LouBarlow

15-07-2009, 07:55

He's got those stats by mis-reading the guardian article. 5 Tevez goals and 35 from Ronaldo = 40

:nuts::lol:

Watched the Tevez press conference yesterday. Had no idea he didn't speak English yet. After 2 years in the country? Poor show.

Art Vanderlay

15-07-2009, 08:15

:nuts::lol:

Watched the Tevez press conference yesterday. Had no idea he didn't speak English yet. After 2 years in the country? Poor show.

Thought it was ironic that he was complaining about Fergie not talking to him much, yet he still needs an interpreter in a press conference.

sexy244486

15-07-2009, 08:37

Am guessing Fergie sent all these text messages in English then?

@LouBarlow : Its been 3 years in the country 1 with West Ham as well??

dean richardson

15-07-2009, 10:56

Tevez was the source of 40 of Utd's 119 goals last season -

(P.S. At the end of last season, why weren't the Utd fans chanting, "Fergie, Fergie, don't sign him up, he's only scored 5 league goals all season"? Was it that the chant was too long and complex or something? :lol: )

Was the article too long or something to read the stats correctly?:lol:
Come on if you are going to a WUM at least learn to read.

anyway i have learnt to use the ignore function now

DavidHasslehoff

15-07-2009, 11:19

I think you'll find that article mentions the combined stats of Tevez and Ronaldo.

Ronaldo's stats http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=22774&cc=5739

Tevez's stats http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=72490&cc=5739
I'll admit that's fair comment and my mistake. But I stand by the fact that Tevez is as good a player as Utd fans were saying at the end of last season, and not as bad as you're making him out to be now he's turned you down.

evilsly

15-07-2009, 11:23

:lol:

Anyway, Tevez is now a City player, id suggest that any more talk of him should be in the city thread.

So Evil lad, whats the talk re Fergie not buying anyone else? What ya hearing on the grapevine?

still in for Costa, haggling over price it seems

Fever Dawg

15-07-2009, 11:49

Can we not maybe have more than one talking point at a time, or will you just let us know what we can and can't discuss in advance?

You are only allowed one talking point at a time. Yep, that's what I meant ... :oh-hum: :cuckoo:

rustybin

15-07-2009, 11:58

still in for Costa, haggling over price it seems

Where's that from?

With Downing to Villa, I'm still hoping for Ashley Young!

evilsly

15-07-2009, 14:07

Where's that from?

With Downing to Villa, I'm still hoping for Ashley Young!

various sources.

can't see any chance of ashley young at the prices being quoted.

there's also still likely to be a couple of young italian kids joining

jermainejones

15-07-2009, 19:55

various sources.

you dont really have any connections or sources and just get your rumours from here:

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/h/Sport/Football/Premier+League/Manchester+United

:lol:

Sam

15-07-2009, 21:03

He's been right more often than you've posted anything of interest :thumbs:

rustybin

15-07-2009, 21:05

He's been right more often than you've posted anything of interest :thumbs:

Liverpool have won the Premier League more often than he's posted anything of interest.

jermainejones

15-07-2009, 21:16

Where's that from?

see post # 19 on the 1st page. This was in the Times two days:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/football/premier_league/article6696182.ece

refers to haggling over price as well.

It was also on Sky Sports News as per post # 19.

So, I wouldn't put too much emphasis on a guy who claims to have sources when all he does is search newsnow all day for United rumours.

evilsly

15-07-2009, 21:19

dean richardson

16-07-2009, 09:34

you had the same argument when you were here last as alanjay

you were tiresome then too.

where have I claimed super secret sources for that story.

'various sources' means various newspaper journos (sorry not newsnow, you tried that one last time)

the only journo worth reading on the story is Oliver Kay at the times.

still, back on the ignore list you go, nothing of interest in either of your incarnations.

come on... you post in a style that would lend us to believe you have insider knowledge when in fact you have the gossip columns on bbc sports.
as far as i remember the only transfer you have predicted was hargreaves in.
which was as nailed on a transfer as i can remember.

jermainejones

16-07-2009, 10:23

come on... you post in a style that would lend us to believe you have insider knowledge when in fact you have the gossip columns on bbc sports.

Absolutely. And this is what he thrives on. :thumbs:

And you get posters here who think he has some sort of insider source as per rusty guy and sam girl. :lol:

He just reads the the gossip pages on the 'net like everyone else. :D

unrealnils

16-07-2009, 11:54

Hes hell of a paper reader then as hes been on the ball for years, and hes not one to grandstand his announcements ......

I belive him

Sam

16-07-2009, 12:04

Oh yes, I remember Alanjay - had an issue with woman commenting on any sport as I recall. And got banned eventually. Pity he's been allowed back under a different name.

Crikey!

16-07-2009, 12:17

Oh yes, I remember Alanjay - had an issue with woman commenting on any sport as I recall. And got banned eventually. Pity he's been allowed back under a different name.

speed knitting is a sport isn't it? women can comment on that. competitive cooking as well? ;)

fattyboombatty

16-07-2009, 12:55

come on... you post in a style that would lend us to believe you have insider knowledge when in fact you have the gossip columns on bbc sports.
as far as i remember the only transfer you have predicted was hargreaves in.
which was as nailed on a transfer as i can remember.

or are you just upset he beats you to it? who are you again? i for one value elvisly's contribution to our threads.:thumbs:

MICON

16-07-2009, 19:13

Why are we having personal attacks on members of this forum? It is supposed to be about Manchester United. I personally like reading evilsly's posts & find them informative, as I also do with a lot of other's on here.

rustybin

16-07-2009, 19:13

come on... you post in a style that would lend us to believe you have insider knowledge when in fact you have the gossip columns on bbc sports.

I've never taken that impression from his posts.

evilsly

16-07-2009, 19:20

I don't have any kind of divine knowledge, I'm just better at sifting what's credible and what's not than most people. I even give regular caveats about some of the stuff I post (particularly when sourced from spanish media sources)

oh, and as for me just being right about Hargreaves
I got Tevez in, and out, pretty much spot on too, and carrick (although 100% credit for carrick belongs elsewhere)

alanjay seems to have some kind of long term problem with me, no idea why.

jermainejones

16-07-2009, 19:37

Jermainejones seems to have some kind of long term problem with me, no idea why.

Dont flatter yourself.

I dont have probloems with you as a poster per se.

What I dont like is how you post like you have some insider tips and sources. You dont provide any links to what you say. Its the usualy "spanish press", "rumour is", "word is" deliberately trying to remain mysterious. I have yet to see you provide any links to any of your "stories".

rustybin

16-07-2009, 19:39

alanjay seems to have some kind of long term problem

Fixed that for you.

Apep

16-07-2009, 19:42

He's just an idiot trying to be controversial, best ignore him.

jan08

16-07-2009, 20:51

Dont flatter yourself.

I dont have probloems with you as a poster per se.

What I dont like is how you post like you have some insider tips and sources. You dont provide any links to what you say. Its the usualy "spanish press", "rumour is", "word is" deliberately trying to remain mysterious. I have yet to see you provide any links to any of your "stories".
Every time evil posts here is one more day I put off paying the sanc another tenner. As long as he keeps posting the far more reliable gossip from there he's saving me cash and I'm tight, so he'll do for me:thumbs: evil, yhgr!!

jdor

16-07-2009, 21:50

who are you again? :

:lol::lol::lol:how old are you? 10? whats next offering out after final bell?
honestly some people:brickwall

MICON

17-07-2009, 06:12

The Manchester United match in Indonesia (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/8155084.stm) has been cancelled because of the hotel bomb blasts.

More here. (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8155154.stm)

"Manchester United have called off their match in Indonesia after bomb blasts hit the hotel they were due to stay in."

jpig

17-07-2009, 11:02

Another here who values evilslys comments and think he contributes lots to this thread. As opposed to jermainethingy who just stirs up trouble but is left to it.

A shame about the cancelation of the malaysian match, but a close call too. Also on BBC news that Hargreaves is due back in September which is fantastic news.

campdave

17-07-2009, 11:24

Apparently Utd have agreed a fee for a Senegalese player from Molde in Norway, who will remain with Molde til Jan.

Was on SSn this morning, but can't see anything on BBC at the mo.

D J Fryer

17-07-2009, 11:49

Right at the end of the Hargreaves article here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8155610.stm) - another "Diouf"!

MICON

17-07-2009, 11:50

Apparently Utd have agreed a fee for a Senegalese player from Molde in Norway, who will remain with Molde til Jan.

Was on SSn this morning, but can't see anything on BBC at the mo.

More here. (http://in.reuters.com/article/sportsNews/idINIndia-41115320090717)

Also on BBC news that Hargreaves is due back in September which is fantastic news.

Great News. Lets hope he can get back to form quick

fattyboombatty

17-07-2009, 12:29

:lol::lol::lol:how old are you? 10? whats next offering out after final bell?
honestly some people:brickwall

/slow clap

horseflesh

17-07-2009, 12:44

Apparently Utd have agreed a fee for a Senegalese player from Molde in Norway, who will remain with Molde til Jan.

Was on SSn this morning, but can't see anything on BBC at the mo.

Oh yeah, typical you. Put yourself up on a pedestal like you're some sort of Old Trafford insider, when all you're doing is watching Sky Sports and hitting F5 on the BBC website.

:nuts:

;)

dean richardson

17-07-2009, 13:50

/slow clap

/yawn.

on a more grown up issue. i have no axe towards evilsly posts on ins / outs transfers its just i made a throw away comment that i thought he "bigs" them up slightly by insinuating an insider knowledge, just my opinion, but he and others have since quashed that thought. just the way i interpreted them before i saw the light :)

D J Fryer

17-07-2009, 14:20

Hey I'm appreciative of any gossip I read here. It's within all of us to filter out/take with a pinch of salt/ignore anything we read. Better to do that than slate each other when we are all supposed to support the same team.

I quite like evilsly's posting style - it is mysterious and does allude to some insider knowledge.

Whether or not it is on the money or based on info in the public domain is neither here nor there to me. If he didn't post there would be less to read and less to discuss.

As for the new Diouf signing - didn't we get Solksjaer from Molde? Here's hoping................(where's that fingers crossed smilie?)

evilsly

17-07-2009, 15:21

oh go on then, have some transfer info

shame it's an 'out'

Manucho, off to spain.

el link

http://www.realvalladolid.es/noticias/actualidad/17072009/sorpresa-llama-Manucho/

D J Fryer

17-07-2009, 16:15

Interesting - Fergie obviously didn't fancy him after seeing him train cos I don't think I've seen enough of him to have a view on his potential.

evilsly

17-07-2009, 16:32

it does seem from the whispers (sorry you can't see these on news now) that Manucho was very much a carlos signing.

which would make sense, given the angola connection.

Shame he didn't get more chance in England, he was decent to watch in the last African Cup of Nations.

of course, lest we forget, he scored a vital goal for Hull which helped ensure the barcodes were relegated.

Fever Dawg

17-07-2009, 17:07

I read yesterday that Gibson has signed a new deal with some very complimentary words from SAF .... wasn't he put on the transfer list at the end of last season? :thinking:

I'm happy about that anyhoo as I think he looks he has bags of talent.

evilsly

17-07-2009, 17:19

Gibson's contract was about to expire, and I believe he was removed from the transfer list after his behaviour improved (his off the pitch antics weren't great at one point).

at least now the glazers can milk a few million from him, which seems to be their priority with youth/reserve players.

rustybin

18-07-2009, 10:37

Our new guy Diouf - record so far this season:-

2009 - 21 games, 17 goals.

I know it's only Norway but that's pretty good. Looking forward to seeing him in January.

slideymoo

18-07-2009, 10:50

Beware of players called diouf ;)

Malaysia man utd 2-2 atm

rustybin

18-07-2009, 10:55

Beware of players called diouf ;)

Malaysia man utd 2-2 atm

Who scored for Utd?

EDIT - ROONEY / NANI

slideymoo

18-07-2009, 11:01

Nani's playing quite well. Foster gifted them the second goal, missed the ball and the attacker went round him. Owen has just come on.

Dxfatass

18-07-2009, 11:39

I agree about Nani, he had a good game, encouraging for the season to come. The real question however is how long will it take to get used to hearing "Owen gets the winner for United"? :nuts:

MICON

18-07-2009, 12:01

The real question however is how long will it take to get used to hearing "Owen gets the winner for United"? :nuts:

I prefer "Owen gets the winner for United against Liverpool"

MrC

18-07-2009, 13:36

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/950/phpspw1xiam.jpg

:lol:
:clap:

Fever Dawg

18-07-2009, 14:09

Nce start to score the winner on your debut.

Foster though :nuts:

unrealnils

18-07-2009, 14:18

Whats the situation with the argentina national team ? did tevez choose city thinking he would be startng eleven and that would help him go tothe world cup ?

evilsly

19-07-2009, 10:29

Fergie says no more signings

doesn't stop the nonsense coming out of spain

Villa for 45 million is the latest piece of fiction.

rustybin

19-07-2009, 10:37

Fergie says no more signings

doesn't stop the nonsense coming out of spain

Villa for 45 million is the latest piece of fiction.

In fairness to the press, he said no more signings after Obertan, then signed Diouf (because his hand was forced by Arsenal apparently).

Surely if, say, he's earmarked A Young as a Jan / Summer 10 signing, and then Liverpool go in for him, it might make him move again.

Although looking at our squad now, it's looking pretty sweet.

Berb, Owen up front with Rooney playing just behind or on the wing.

Valencia or Nani on the wing with Hargreaves and Carrick in the middle passing it around.

Evra, Vidic, Rio and Silva at the back in front of VDS / Foster.

We've then got our pick of these as our SECOND 11 to fill gaps and Mickey Mouse Cups.

Park, Fletcher, Welback, Macheda, O'Shea, Giggs, Evans, Anderson, Tosic, Neville, Brown, Scholes, Gibson.

evilsly

19-07-2009, 10:44

I'm sure there will be more signings, but more of the type of the italian kids rumoured.

I very much doubt there will be a 'marquee' type signing of the Villa type, but hey I could be wrong.

the squad is fine on paper, it's the tinkering I fear for this season.

campdave

19-07-2009, 10:45

In fairness to the press, he said no more signings after Obertan, then signed Diouf (because his hand was forced by Arsenal apparently).

Surely if, say, he's earmarked A Young as a Jan / Summer 10 signing, and then Liverpool go in for him, it might make him move again.

Although looking at our squad now, it's looking pretty sweet.

Berb, Owen up front with Rooney playing just behind or on the wing.

Valencia or Nani on the wing with Hargreaves and Carrick in the middle passing it around.

Evra, Vidic, Rio and Silva at the back in front of VDS / Foster.

We've then got our pick of these as our SECOND 11 to fill gaps and Mickey Mouse Cups.

Park, Fletcher, Welback, Macheda, O'Shea, Giggs, Evans, Anderson, Tosic, Neville, Brown, Scholes, Gibson.

With an aging Scholes, I half think Anderson might be pushed further forward more often this season.

rustybin

19-07-2009, 10:47

With an aging Scholes, I half think Anderson might be pushed further forward more often this season.

He might even treat us all to a goal or two this season :)

I'm going to be in Florida for the first week of the season, anyone know of anywhere specifically to catch live games?

evilsly

19-07-2009, 11:06

He might even treat us all to a goal or two this season :)

I've seen some nonsense posted on this thread, but that has to be the most ludicrous one yet .....

;)

fattyboombatty

19-07-2009, 11:06

With an aging Scholes, I half think Anderson might be pushed further forward more often this season.

what's the longest a midfield player has gone before getting his first goal? an attacking midfielder, too:eek:

it's looking much better now, even tho we had a great squad without ronny and tevez. nani and berbatov now have no excuse not to step up and shine. same for anderson, actually. hargreaves in midfield will be a massive boost should he be back for the second half of the season.

Deron

19-07-2009, 11:16

Berb, Owen up front with Rooney playing just behind or on the wing.

I thought Rooney was going to be an out and out striker?

He won't be used on the wing again will he?

Thought Owen was going to be an impact sub and not a first line striker. Saw the goals from your game yesterday and the opposition strikers first goal was awesome.

fattyboombatty

19-07-2009, 11:16

/yawn.

i should've done a yawn:brickwall i was going to but then i changed my mind. mine would've worked better with a yawn, too. a slow clap doesn't really make sense:(

MICON

19-07-2009, 11:48

We've then got our pick of these as our SECOND 11 to fill gaps and Mickey Mouse Cups.

Park, Fletcher, Welback, Macheda, O'Shea, Giggs, Evans, Anderson, Tosic, Neville, Brown, Scholes, Gibson.

After last season Fletcher would be in the second 11?

rustybin

19-07-2009, 12:15

Thought Owen was going to be an impact sub and not a first line striker.

I would have thought it would depend entirely on his fitness.

Rooney won't play as an out and out striker week in, week out, it'd take too much out of his game - he'll be all over the shop, as usual.

rustybin

19-07-2009, 12:16

After last season Fletcher would be in the second 11?

Really, Fergie plays a squad game with a spine of ever-presents (bar injuries). Fletcher will get his fair share of games.

Crikey!

19-07-2009, 12:37

what's the longest a midfield player has gone before getting his first goal?

remember arsenal buying john jensen on the strength of his goalscoring in euro 92? :lol:

19-07-2009, 12:45

I think t he first XI next season will be

VDS

Evra
Ferdinand
Vidic
Da Silva

Park
Carrick
Anderson
Valencia

Owen
Rooney

If Hargreaves is fit and in form, he'll get in. Ditto for Foster and maybe Berbatov.

OOOOpppppps, I forgot Fletch. Yeah, he'd take Anderson's position.

Fever Dawg

19-07-2009, 12:59

Berbatov & Rooney will start up front with Owen on the bench imo.

fattyboombatty

19-07-2009, 14:15

what is owens fitness state at the moment, anyway? did he even play for newcastle this year?

Deron

19-07-2009, 14:47

what is owens fitness state at the moment, anyway? did he even play for newcastle this year?

Yep...

iirc This he's been fit since around the end of March...

Obviously match fit is a different story and after Martins came off the bench and affected games more Owen found himself on the bench.

When the came to our place in May he was unused.

barthez

20-07-2009, 13:26

See Owen has scored again as United currently lead 2-0 in Malaysa.

slideymoo

20-07-2009, 17:11

What team did man utd start with?

evilsly

20-07-2009, 17:43

What team did man utd start with?

Foster

Neville
Brown
Evans
Fabio

Tosic
Fletcher
Carrick
Giggs

Macheda
Owen

unrealnils

20-07-2009, 18:42

Has the Sergio deal fallen through ?

evilsly

20-07-2009, 18:47

if it ever really existed in the minds of anyone other the Marca and AS sub editors desks .....

ferguson doesn't generally have Plan B's with transfer targets
and it's clear he was heavily banking on getting Benzema this summer.

unrealnils

20-07-2009, 18:52

Do you think there will be another striker brought in ??

I dont understand whats going on with Hunterleer he seems to have no spot at Real and clubs like stuttgart are being linked with him??

jermainejones

20-07-2009, 19:04

evilsly

20-07-2009, 19:12

I wouldn't be happy with costa at the near £20 million being quoted ......

give them a structured deal where they get the full £20 million after 3 back to back CL wins fine, but up front. No chance for a player who hasn't even played one full season.

I have no problems with them not spending big this summer, it's next summer that money will really need to be spent (replacing VDS, Giggs and Scholes, and probably Berbatov if he doesn't step up this season)

jermainejones

20-07-2009, 19:21

MICON

20-07-2009, 19:24

Er. You cant work out that it is obvious no other strtiker will come in? :thinking:

We are not Man City to go out and buy another top level striker and pay him to sit on the bench. Rooney, Berba, Owen are it. And that is it. Plus Macheda and that Diouf kid who will come in in January.

Only other transfer hopefuly will be ther Costa kid. I would be happy with that and so should you.

Goal wise neither Rooney or Berbatov set the world alight last season. Owen may get a few if he's not injured. So am I happy with that. NO. We need a world class striker & Ronaldo's £80,000,000 should go some way to pay for one with quite a bit of change as well.

campdave

20-07-2009, 19:36

If we dont take him, someone else will. It is worth a punt, I reckon. Giggs, Scholes could be sold for around £6 million each so we could go a little way to recouping that money we might spend on costa? But even if not, I'm still pretty confident going into the season.

Incredibly wasteful to spend £20 million on a player who's made less than 10 appearances for his club, and by all accounts already has a massive attitude problem.

andybhoy

20-07-2009, 19:43

eh? Sell giggs and scholes for 6 million each?

I can't honestly believe what I've just read.

Apart from the fact that that we'd be luck to get 600k for the pair at their ages, I can't quite think that their rewards for a career of loyalty should be for them to be sold off to help pay for someone else. If they choose to leave, fine, if their contracts run out, fine, but basically transfer listing two club legends would be out of order.

jermainejones

20-07-2009, 19:48

Incredibly wasteful to spend £20 million on a player who's made less than 10 appearances for his club, and by all accounts already has a massive attitude problem.

Didn't we just sell a guy who could be labled a Prims donna? This, it could be argued is a good sign. Great players tend to be selfish or have attitude/issues. Wilde was gay. Van Gough cut of his ear and Hawkins is disabled. But all were/are geniuses. History is littered with great men with problems.

campdave

20-07-2009, 19:51

Didn't we just sell a guy who could be labled a Prims donna? This, it could be argued is a good sign. Great players tend to be selfish or have attitude/issues. Wilde was gay. Van Gough cut of his ear and Hawkins is disabled. But all were/are geniuses. History is littered with great men with problems.

Balderdash. The two players you want to shift to bring in Costa have zero attitude and have been two of the greatest players in Utd's recent history. A stropy Brazilian isn't a sign of guaranteed genius. There are plenty of people with genius who have spunked it down the drain.

I've no problem playing £20 million over the term of a deal if he makes a certain amount of appearances, but paying £20 million up front is pure folly. Football history is littered with players who have shown great potential but gone on to offer nothing.

unrealnils

20-07-2009, 20:04

Er. You cant work out that it is obvious no other strtiker will come in? :thinking:

We are not Man City to go out and buy another top level striker and pay him to sit on the bench. Rooney, Berba, Owen are it. And that is it. Plus Macheda and that Diouf kid who will come in in January.

Only other transfer hopefuly will be ther Costa kid. I would be happy with that and so should you.
what makes it so obvious ??

Maybe im dense but it doesnt seem enough to me if owen ,who is injury prone, is off for 3 months then it would be hard with just rooney and berbs espically if its a busy time like christmas.

Diouf coming in january by the time hes settled into the team it could be a bit late unless hs gonna do a Pato and take the team by storm

im not complaining im not a utd fan!

evilsly

20-07-2009, 20:38

Rooney, Berbatov, Macheda, Wellbeck, Owen.

Macheda and Wellbeck might not be top class yet, but they never will be unless they are given the chance to step up.

Also, it's wrong to write owen off based on his newcastle injury record.

would any of us wanted to actually turn up on the pitch for that lot, if we had the chance of a spurious sickie.

MICON

20-07-2009, 21:42

Deron

20-07-2009, 21:45

ferguson doesn't generally have Plan B's with transfer targets and it's clear he was heavily banking on getting Benzema this summer.

Watched Benzema tonight...

Never really paid any attention to him before, but he's bloody impressive.

Glad you never got him...:thumbs:

Fever Dawg

21-07-2009, 05:40

evilsly

21-07-2009, 06:41

as I said, it was a rumour

that was repeatedly coming out of spain.

all smoke, and no mirrors it seems in the end though

Cockeye

21-07-2009, 06:52

What kind of team do you lot expect to send down to carrow road this Saturday? I'll be going along to watch, but obviously your main lot are on tour in Asia.

campdave

21-07-2009, 07:27

What kind of team do you lot expect to send down to carrow road this Saturday? I'll be going along to watch, but obviously your main lot are on tour in Asia.

Asian squad here:

http://www.redcafe.net/f6/squad-asia-tour-according-manutd-com-258769/

So a pretty weak team, might be a couple of (very) fringe players from the first round of the League Cup.

D J Fryer

21-07-2009, 09:31

Watched Benzema tonight...

Never really paid any attention to him before, but he's bloody impressive.

I thought he stood out in the Madrid team last night. You could tell he tried his socks off to impress the other players and the manager too because he tried to keep 'cool' when he scored but he kept breaking into the widest schoolboy grin. Shame we missed out :(

HenryKrinkle

22-07-2009, 09:20

Thinking ahead a little, anyone know what's happening TV wise with the Charity/Community Shield this year?? I think it's a nice curtain raiser for the new season and should ideally be on terretrial telly...like the FA cup... ...no doubt it'll be snapped up by some ppv channel though!

LouBarlow

22-07-2009, 09:29

I think it's on Sky (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=75&url=www.sky.com)

dean richardson

22-07-2009, 10:50

wasnt it on setanta last yr with ITV highlights

Alan b

22-07-2009, 11:28

wasnt it on setanta last yr with ITV highlights

I wonder if ESPN have got it as Sky do not mention it on their website where they have all the live games detailed:

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12942,00.html

Deron

22-07-2009, 13:56

Think it's still to be confirmed...

I always like to watch it, to see new signings and to see in the new season.

campdave

22-07-2009, 14:16

Think it's still to be confirmed...

I always like to watch it, to see new signings and to see in the new season.

Correct, the community shield is likely to be awarded as a one off match, as it's part of the England/FA Cup contract. The next match after the Community Shield isn't til October, so the FA are likely to do a one-off deal for the shield to give them more time to line up a broadcaster for the FA Cup rights

orman20

23-07-2009, 08:10

Not sure how people feel about this apparent no more buying stance from fergie but surely we need another striker.

Taking ronaldo away will decrease our goal scoring potency greatly and can Nani/Obertan step into those shoes? Surely there must be another big name signing around the corner i heard rumours about Aguero from At. Madrid and Ibrahimovic (although he seems to be going to Barca). Even with these rumours is there anyone around people can see Fergie signing, does anyone agree that we must have sign someone big?

jdor

23-07-2009, 09:25

rustybin

23-07-2009, 09:35

i prefer we sign a match winner, to compliment what we already have.
but it looks like anyone in that class doesnt want to come here (ribery, villa) or has been hoovered up by real
i dont think we should spend for the sake of it and just get the next best person who will come to us.

I agree with this - I'd rather see Gibson, Welbeck, Mach or another youngster come in than pay good money for an average player.

Fergie has long said that if the players aren't available, he'd rather make-do than throw money way.

As far as goals are concerned, there is no reason why Nani / Owen / Rooney shouldn't be able to match Ronaldo's tally.

When RVN left the doom and gloom merchants were saying Utd would miss his goals.

orman20

23-07-2009, 09:48

I agree we shouldnt buy an average player at a high price for the sake of it but surely there is a quality player out there available for good money.

I probably was one of those 'doom and gloom merchants' when RVN left but ronaldo more than matched his tally for goals plus assists once he had left. Are you really sure that Nani, Owen and rooney can now step into Ronaldos boots and fill the void? Im not convinced myself considering Nani - flash in the pan so far Owen - a gamble to say the least Rooney - quality player but doesnt score enough goals for a striker.

Also we arent talking about Berbatov can we even see him stepping up his performances and show us why we actually paid 30 million for him. Maybe he is a classic example of buying a player for too much as was said earlier.

Fever Dawg

23-07-2009, 10:29

Tbh, I'm not really expecting too much of Wellbeck. From what I've seen he doesn't look like he's up to the standard. I can see him signing for somebody like Birmingham/Sunderland/Stoke in the near future .....

rustybin

23-07-2009, 10:43

I'm not sure, no, but a fit Owen could get a minimum of 20 a season. Nani looks like a class player who lost his way a little last season and didn't get the games - no reason he won't get into double figures (if he plays regularly).

And Rooney will be chomping at the bit - people forget how young he is - Still only 23.

We should start a list of irreplacable players who's leaving means the end of Utd's dominance: -

Eric
Beckham
RVN
Tevez (!)
Ronaldo

iainw

23-07-2009, 10:54

orman20

23-07-2009, 11:21

question (for my fantasy team) but is the general opinion that nani will replace ronaldo? or valencia... tbh i am not sure how your midfield will look next season- is tsosic(sp) likely to be a regular?

thanks in advance :)

Not sure what everyone else thinks about this question but i think its a good one although im not sure i should attempt to answer considering your avatar!

My personal thinking is that Valencia and Nani will be interchangeable on each of the wings. Tosic will certainly get his chance this season considering how much was shelled out for him last season. Unfortunately its almost impossible to second guess Fergie but i would certainly predict Tosic will be given a chance, Nani will take a more pivotal role and Valencia should slot straight into the team.

anyone care to challenge me on this?!?:suspect:

Mock

23-07-2009, 11:22

question (for my fantasy team) but is the general opinion that nani will replace ronaldo? or valencia... tbh i am not sure how your midfield will look next season- is tsosic(sp) likely to be a regular?

thanks in advance :)

Nani is more of a left sided player, Ronaldo was a right winger. So, Valencia would be the natural replacement. I suspect Tosic will still be being groomed, Fergie probably already has him firmly under Giggs' wing for the forthcoming season. There is, of course, Obertan to consider. Will fergie play him straight away, and if so, does this mean Valencia will be played left side? As usual, there are more questions than answers at the moment. :thinking:

I hope that answers your question. :D

Just an aside note. I had a wander down to the megastore yesterday, Man U are still selling Ronaldo and Tevez figurines. £3.99 reduced to £1.50. get them while you still can. :p

evilsly

23-07-2009, 11:24

Obertan is injured and out for about 3 months it seems

our medical staff, sigh

and as for the left wing

it's rooney innit

:(

iainw

23-07-2009, 11:45

thanks.

i was thinking rooney will be up front proper for man utd this season and it will be valencia and nani as your wingers...

D J Fryer

23-07-2009, 12:26

I think we'll rotate a lot on the wings. Park, Nani, Tosic, Valencia even Fletcher for the odd game. Valencia/Park/Fletcher give the balance when we need the midfield to track back and against the lesser sides we can risk the other one or two. Also depends a lot on whether we play 2 out and out up top or play one up with a 5 across the middle.

In other words - IMO no one player will play often enough to be a 'regular' or first choice on the wings

bazkeane82

23-07-2009, 12:48

Who will be regular right back this season, Neville, O'Shea, Brown or Rapheal?

DavidHasslehoff

23-07-2009, 13:15

does anyone agree that we must have to sign someone big?

I agree with you. As things stand the title is going to Anfield next season provided Benitez holds the team together.

campdave

23-07-2009, 15:35

I agree with you. As things stand the title is going to Anfield next season provided Benitez holds the team together.

Zzzzz

Barny79

23-07-2009, 15:39

I agree with you. As things stand the title is going to Anfield next season provided Benitez holds the team together.

Well it's looking more likely Alonso and Macsherano may be off

DavidHasslehoff

23-07-2009, 15:51

Well it's looking more likely Alonso and Macsherano may be off
If that happens then all bets are off. It could even leave the door open for Chelsea (assuming they hang on to Terry).

orman20

24-07-2009, 09:01

Does anyone else believe David Villa would be a great signing, not sure what his situation is mind. Obviously Valencia need the money as they are pretty close to bankruptcy maybe he doesnt want to move to england?

If we could sign him that would be a great signing i think he is a quality player and we now apparently have 60 million to spend;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8164571.stm

who knows what Fergies thinking though ay

D J Fryer

24-07-2009, 10:22

Another injury for Gary Nev sees him fly home - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8166800.stm

Injuries seem inevitable for him now, not if but when. It must be a terrible way to wind down your career.

Barny79

24-07-2009, 10:28

Yeah, especially considering he had few injuries in his young days and peak

MICON

24-07-2009, 10:43

I have it in the back of my mind, that they are after one or two players, but won't name them, unless they get them, because other clubs may go for them & up the money. They may not even come off till January. I guess we wait & see.

Deron

24-07-2009, 11:10

orman20

24-07-2009, 11:17

Citysmith

24-07-2009, 11:26

it is my understanding that Valencia are in trouble financially and need to sell one of there biggest assets (Silva or Villa) to save themselves from bankruptcy.

I may be wrong but this is how i understand the situation to be

Valencia sold their old ground for a ridiculous amount (half a billion Euros) and for the moment won't have to sell their best players.

Valencia receive financial boost (http://www.worldsoccer.com/news/valencia_receive_financial_boost_news_285745.html)

MrC

24-07-2009, 12:17

orman20

24-07-2009, 12:36

Gerrards just got off :oh-hum::oh-hum::oh-hum:

Imagine if you can, if it had been Rooney throwing those punches on CCTV.

He would have been, hung, drawn, quartered, shot and then still banned for 6 months by the FA

Very, very sad state of affairs..........

i couldnt agree more, Gerrard had a hissy fit over not being allowed to play his music, causes a brawl and will get off scott free.

I didnt think Gerrard was that sort of 'overpaid thinking he is better than everybody else' type of person but i was certainly wrong.

Steven Gerrards reputation has been tarnished in my view.:mad:

welshmatt

24-07-2009, 12:43

Utd just gone 3-2 up against Seoul. Crowd are going orgasmic every time Owen or Park are on the big screen.

campdave

24-07-2009, 15:45

Utd just gone 3-2 up against Seoul. Crowd are going orgasmic every time Owen or Park are on the big screen.

Quite enjoying these pre-season matches for a change.

platty

26-07-2009, 12:58

Utd 4-0 up at halftime in their last Asia tour game , Owen with 2 , Berbs and Tosic the others..

unrealnils

26-07-2009, 13:19

Owen has already scored 4 times for you ! blimey

rustybin

26-07-2009, 13:22

Nani's got a fifth. And Giggs a 6th. And Giggs a 7th. And Giggs an 8th. I want 10. At this rate Anderson might score.

Cracking pre-season so far. When to we start playing proper teams?

EDIT

Boca Juniors, then Milan or Bayern. That'll be the real test.

welshmatt

26-07-2009, 13:53

Anderson is so desperate to score :lol:

Dxfatass

26-07-2009, 14:07

Park will never let Evra hear the last of that miss towards the end :lol:

MrC

26-07-2009, 14:15

Maybe when Owen gets settled and gets some confidence going he may prove a half decent buy ;)

Berba's flick pass :notworthy

is it 33 or 34 :thinking:

Crikey!

27-07-2009, 00:54

is it 33 or 34 :thinking:

33 at the minute, it'll be 34 at the end of this coming season. besides, the league cup doesn't even count as a proper competition, so it's even longer than that.;)

LouBarlow

27-07-2009, 03:38

Maybe when Owen gets settled and gets some confidence going he may prove a half decent buy ;)

Or when he starts scoring against proper teams ;)

Sam

27-07-2009, 04:47

Or when he starts scoring against proper teams ;)

Post bookmarked in case he gets a hattrick against Chelsea this season ;)

Deron

27-07-2009, 16:12

Sky have got the charity shield btw.

MrC

28-07-2009, 19:36

DavidHasslehoff

28-07-2009, 20:05

unrealnils

28-07-2009, 20:24

whats dj got to do with it ?

notthejeffc

28-07-2009, 23:07

Does anyone know (or would like to guess) what CD Gerrard wanted playing?

It looked like it was important to him ...?

Mock

28-07-2009, 23:40

Does anyone know (or would like to guess) what CD Gerrard wanted playing?

It looked like it was important to him ...?

Survivor - Eye of the tiger?

horseflesh

29-07-2009, 01:38

Ferry across the Mersey

Fever Dawg

29-07-2009, 05:58

Queen - We are the Cha.... er, no maybe next year ....

MICON

29-07-2009, 07:19

Does anyone know (or would like to guess) what CD Gerrard wanted playing?

It looked like it was important to him ...?

The Beatles 'I'm a loser'.

MrC

29-07-2009, 10:07

Does anyone know (or would like to guess) what CD Gerrard wanted playing?

It looked like it was important to him ...?

Saturday Night's Alright (For Fighting)? ;)

HenryKrinkle

29-07-2009, 10:33

'I don't want to go to Chelsea' ?

singhstar

29-07-2009, 11:26

blood on the dance floor

dean richardson

29-07-2009, 11:27

shaggy's - it wasnt me

jpig

29-07-2009, 15:27

Shock, horror :eek:

Mrs Gerrard finally realises what we've all known for years.............;)

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a167921/alex-curran-liverpool-has-become-rough.html

Thats nothing love, you try going out in Southport at night :lol:

Hilarious, when you know some of the murky stuff that follows Gerrard and his Mrs around. There are one or two fellows he knows who are hardly the 'class' that the city of Liverpool tries to attract. Why was it he didn't go to Chelsea again?

Dxfatass

29-07-2009, 17:28

Anderson scores!! :notworthy :p

Valencia has been impressive this half, capped-off with the second goal. But Wes off injured again, thigh problem maybe?

MICON

29-07-2009, 18:23

Anderson scores!! :notworthy :p

Valencia has been impressive this half, capped-off with the second goal. But Wes off injured again, thigh problem maybe?

Only watched the second half & we've been poor, I guess the players in the first half were better. On what I've seen we are missing Ronaldo & a good Goal scorer, but as I've said i missed the first half.

Dxfatass

29-07-2009, 18:56

Yeah first half definitely better for Utd, possibly down to Boca really as they were far stronger in the second, particularly after their goal. SAF has just said he was unhappy with the performance but praised Valencia.

Defensive injuries starting to mount already: Neville already back home, Wes with a thigh pull and Vidic with a calf strain in the warm-up apparently. I guess Rio might have to start tomorrow with Johnny Evans and Evra; right-back might be an issue given O'Shea just played 90 minutes. Maybe Fabio will play right-back like he did the other day, he was taken-off after about an hour or so I think.

Deron

29-07-2009, 19:39

Does Hargreaves continuing problems not rank as news anymore, or are the Gerrard's your major concern...?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8155610.stm

Manchester United midfielder Owen Hargreaves may have to be put his comeback from injury on hold.
The 28-year-old has had operations on both knees in the past year in a bid to cure tendinitis and there were hopes he would be back at the end of September.
But Hargreaves, whose last game was in September 2008, is out of the Audi Cup in Munich, which raises new concerns.
"We had hoped he would be joining us but he is still in rehabilitation," said United boss Sir Alex Ferguson.

He's having some crap luck...and I still hopes he gets fit especially for England. Hope he gets fit and gets in to the World cup squad...

jermainejones

29-07-2009, 19:44

I hated Sven. But my God, he got it bang on right with Hargreaves. 99% of fans (including me) couldn't understand his obession with. Great player.

horseflesh

29-07-2009, 19:57

Shock, horror :eek:

Mrs Gerrard finally realises what we've all known for years.............;)

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a167921/alex-curran-liverpool-has-become-rough.html

Thats nothing love, you try going out in Southport at night :lol:

It's a long time since I read something so dripping with irony.

Does Hargreaves continuing problems not rank as news anymore, or are the Gerrard's your major concern...?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/8155610.stm

He's having some crap luck...and I still hopes he gets fit especially for England. Hope he gets fit and gets in to the World cup squad...

I wouldn't be terribly surprised if he never plays again.

Francis

29-07-2009, 20:36

Does Hargreaves continuing problems not rank as news anymore.
The original estimates had him definitely missing the start of the season, probably out for the year. The recent ideas of him being back for September seemed a bit over optimistic and I don't think alot of United fans put much stock in it to be fair.

He made our midfield alot more solid when he did play and I'd love to see him back, starting to think he may not play again though :(

jermainejones

29-07-2009, 20:37

Have faith people. Have faith. Owen will be back. Then we will have two Owens in the team and will win the PL and CL. :)

Art Vanderlay

29-07-2009, 22:22

I am getting seriously worried about Hargreaves. He has been fantastic pretty much every time he has played for us.

Wouldn't surprise me if he never plays again. But I hope he comes back, for United and England.

Francis

30-07-2009, 07:05

Was the pitch 3 feet wide yesterday? Kusczak's kicking was shocking. Anything to his left foot went straight out, also lead to Boca's goal. Fair enough he may be right footed, but a professional footballer shouldn't be that bad with his other foot.

Bayern beat Milan 4-1, so playing Bayern at 5:30 today.

edit - make the 7:45 for the match.

HenryKrinkle

30-07-2009, 10:56

Aaah, playing Bayern is such a pleasure...brings back wonderful memories! ;)

MrC

30-07-2009, 14:57

Aaah, playing Bayern is such a pleasure...brings back wonderful memories! ;)

who put the ball in the german's net?....................

barthez

30-07-2009, 18:59

Ogs :)

6babe

30-07-2009, 19:00

slightly off topic- 'Etihad' sponsors of man city actually means 'United' in arabic lol

Rip Curl

30-07-2009, 19:18

slightly off topic- 'Etihad' sponsors of man city actually means 'United' in arabic lol

Didn't you post a similar (if not exactly) the same sentance in the Man city thread? Are you looking for a rise? :nono:

Sam

30-07-2009, 19:56

Its also incorrect - Etihad translates as federation or union

jermainejones

30-07-2009, 20:00

Didn't you post a similar (if not exactly) the same sentance in the Man city thread? Are you looking for a rise? :nono:

And you're clearly a man very easy to upset. :cuckoo:

Rip Curl

30-07-2009, 20:08

And you're clearly a man very easy to upset. :cuckoo:

http://www.thedvdforums.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=489089

6babe

30-07-2009, 21:33

Didn't mean to wind anyone up. Just thought it was funny. Thought I'd post in both as it was relevant to both teams. Sorry.

Apep

30-07-2009, 21:44

Beaten by the Germans on penalties... what a nice change! :)

MICON

31-07-2009, 08:10

I didn't see the game against Bayern Munich & don't know who played in it, but on the radio this morning they said "We were missing Ronaldo & Tevez". Tevez, I'm not so sure when it comes to scoring goals, but he did chase around leaving space for others to get in. Ronaldo, what can be said, I don't believe we would have won the premiership the last few years without him. Of course we will never know for sure, as we don't know who would have played instead. I always felt we needed a world class striker, or two, WITH Ronaldo so selling him & letting Tevez go & not replacing with a couple of world class players, one at least being a striker does not give me confidence in the coming season. Bayern are of course a good team, & it's still pre season, but remembering how we found goals hard to come by, at times last season, & watching only the second half against Boca, I'm now a little concerned about our firepower.

Deron

31-07-2009, 08:26

Normally I smile when Micon goes on about strikers...but I actually think you're a lot weaker on the firepower front than last season.

Imo it's all about Rooney, if he doesn't have a great season I can't see anyone else inspiring you.

Out of interest who's taking your free-kicks and penalties now?

Barny79

31-07-2009, 08:28

Free-kicks it'll be Anderson and Nani I think, with Giggs too. Penalties I would say Owen and Rooney

MrC

31-07-2009, 09:48

Out of interest who's taking your free-kicks and penalties now?

On the basis of last night, hopefully not Evra :lol:

4th best penalty taker? I don't think so.

I'd let Nani or Rooney take the pens from now on :thumbs:

Pisces Iscariot

31-07-2009, 22:46

Out of interest who's taking your free-kicks and penalties now?
If he's ever playing Hargreaves is easily best at both.

jermainejones

31-07-2009, 23:31

I'd let Nani or Rooney take the pens from now on :thumbs:

Nani will hardly get 90 minutes in a game. Rooney only scored from a free kick against the Turks in the CL on his debut and has done **** all since then. Yes, that is because of Ronnie, but he has hardly ever taken them anyway.

Barny79

31-07-2009, 23:39

I have a feeling Nani will become a key player this season

fattyboombatty

31-07-2009, 23:56

I have a feeling Nani will become a key player this season

i hope so cos we need someone to step up.

evilsly

01-08-2009, 09:49

I have a feeling Nani will become a key player this season

for stoke.

horseflesh

01-08-2009, 10:10

I have a feeling Nani will become a key player this season

Missing a smiley?? :thinking:

joconnor

01-08-2009, 10:35

It's Anderson's turn to shine this season.

barthez

01-08-2009, 13:16

It's Anderson's turn to shine this season.

.........and score:lol:

escape_adil5

01-08-2009, 13:32

I can see Berbatov becoming more of a key player than Nani. He's looked very good in pre-season I reckon.

slideymoo

01-08-2009, 14:57

If anderson is given more of a free role he could do well, if he has to continue being more of a dm/cm then I dont think he'll do much. I think he's the best scholes replacement you have, but he's not been used in that way much.

jermainejones

01-08-2009, 15:14

Mock

01-08-2009, 15:58

I'm quiet intersted in seeing this african kid we got from Norway. We snapped him up wisely. You can image what would have happened if some French club got hold of him. A few years down the line with them, they would demand about £25 million.

Talking of the french, it seems Fergie has upset them. :D

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=664532&sec=transfers&cc=5739

horseflesh

01-08-2009, 23:38

I'm quiet intersted in seeing this african kid we got from Norway. We snapped him up wisely. You can image what would have happened if some French club got hold of him. A few years down the line with them, they would demand about £25 million.

Imagine what would have happened if United got that world player of the year bloke, Christiano Ronaldo.
A few years down the line with them, they would demand about £80 million.

:nuts:

jermainejones

02-08-2009, 00:09

imagine what would have happened if united got that world player of the year bloke, christiano ronaldo.
A few years down the line with them, they would demand about £80 million.

:nuts:

:d

jermainejones

02-08-2009, 00:09

Talking of the french, it seems Fergie has upset them. :D

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=664532&sec=transfers&cc=5739

good.

Fever Dawg

02-08-2009, 06:25

Funny how the Silva and Villa rumours resurface a few days before Valencia play at OT. Valencia told to "name their price" for Silva ...... apparently.

campdave

02-08-2009, 06:47

Talking of the french, it seems Fergie has upset them. :D

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=664532&sec=transfers&cc=5739

Whilst legally Utd may have done the right thing, morally the pinching of European clubs youngsters stinks IMO.

andybhoy

02-08-2009, 07:23

The french have a cheek complaining. They've been dragging African kids to France for years.

pivotalgubbins

02-08-2009, 09:48

The french have a cheek complaining. They've been dragging African kids to France for years.

Exactly, and the quotas of Spanish imports brought in at a certain one of our rivals is hardly likely to have been completed and will the full approval of their respective clubs.

DavidHasslehoff

02-08-2009, 17:25

The french have a cheek complaining. They've been dragging African kids to France for years.
Indeed, some would argue that Pele's prediction that an African team would win the World Cup before the year 2000 came to pass in 1998.

Mock

02-08-2009, 18:23

Whilst legally Utd may have done the right thing, morally the pinching of European clubs youngsters stinks IMO.

I understand what you're saying, but the parents are hardly taking any moral high ground here either.

The french have a cheek complaining. They've been dragging African kids to France for years.

Good point. And it's not just the French either. The Belgians do it for a start, remember Beveren? They had a squad that largely consisted of Ivorian players, I wonder how old some of those players were when they transferred there. Maybe we could ask David Dein. :n0rty:

Pisces Iscariot

02-08-2009, 22:42

Indeed, some would argue that Pele's prediction that an African team would win the World Cup before the year 2000 came to pass in 1998.
It would be a rather weak argument given that only Vieira and Desailly were born in Africa.