First ET, now Raiders...

[jefflynne]

Noticed this on Ain't It Cool News.

A piece talking about the premiere of the 'buggered around with' version of ET, has a few words from producer Frank Marshall. In amongst this , he's quoted as saying...
We’re thinking about doing this with ‘Indy’" he said, "bringing it back out and spiffing up the effects.
Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

I suppose we should give it the benefit of the doubt until we've seen the kind of job they've done on ET, but my initial thought is :eek:

[RichB]

Is this a good thing or a bad thing?

Please tell me that's not a serious question, it's a terrible idea
Leave old movies the **** alone! :brickwall

[Ron Hill]

Well, if it's like what happened with the Star Wars movies then i'd say "NAAAOOOOOOWWWW!"

However, if they'd do exactly the same scene but just increase the realism then i'd go for it. Things like the German van going over the cliff. Keep the same backdrop and apparent camera movement but just make the foreground objects integrate better. LEAVE THE MELTING GERMANS ALONE. They're perfect right down to the collapsing cheeks and rolling eyeballs. :D

Another thing that i'm all for is the digital removal of optical frame boxes (like the ones that follow the spacecraft around in Star Wars) and matte lines. This would remove the few things lacking in some of the fantastic model effects in movies.

[Summerisle]

Originally posted by Ron Hill
Well, if it's like what happened with the Star Wars movies then i'd say "NAAAOOOOOOWWWW!"

However, if they'd do exactly the same scene but just increase the realism then i'd go for it. Things like the German van going over the cliff. Keep the same backdrop and apparent camera movement but just make the foreground objects integrate better. LEAVE THE MELTING GERMANS ALONE. They're perfect right down to the collapsing cheeks and rolling eyeballs. :D

Another thing that i'm all for is the digital removal of optical frame boxes (like the ones that follow the spacecraft around in Star Wars) and matte lines. This would remove the few things lacking in some of the fantastic model effects in movies.

Raiders only had about 50 optical effects in the whole movie which is tiny compared with movies today.

Saw an old 70mm print of this a few months ago and thought it was really good fun, I hated it when I first saw it, it's totally opposite to Star Wars which I liked but now loathe. I think they also renamed it Indy Jones and the Raiders...

Pity they couldn't digitally remove Short Round and Kate Capshaw from the second one. This must be one of the biggest turkeys ever. Just awful.

[Panavision]

If the original elements are available, then all that is required is to combine them again and remove cell dirt etcetc
The f/x shouldn't be altered with CGI!!!

[Dan Druff]

Of course Ridely Scott is more than likely doing the same with Blade Runner..hopefully just to remove the visible wires and very little else..

[john316]

Hopefully though this leads to a DVD release like ET will! :clap:

[RoboCop4]

Didn't they already tweak the effects for the recent (well, 2 years ago) VHS release? I'm sure I recall reading something on the packaging about new effects work for the final sequence of Raiders....

I <u>hope</u> they don't bugger about with the films. Why not invest their efforts in Indy IV instead of over-egging the pudding on perfectly good films?

[Cornelius]

Well they could certainly improve the matte paintings.

Some of the backgrounds look like they were painted by an eight year old.

[jonathan.e]

Originally posted by Cornelius
Some of the backgrounds look like they were painted by an eight year old.


I used to be friends with a guy who did backdrops on Last Crusade, and I always thought his work was crap but didn’t tell him. He’s now sanding floors for a living :D

[tj_director]

i'm probably the only one who likes those matte painting backgrounds then? i always thought it gave it that true comic book feel :)

[JCL]

LOL @ jonathan.e's post. :D

[Grumpy]

The film is already great without playing around with the special effects so IF IT AIN'T BROKE DON'T FIX IT.

[DavidMcGowan]

There are certainly some effects that, in terms of realism, could do with some reworking - e.g. removing the obvious reflection on the glass divider when Indy goes 'face-to-face' with the snake. But, having seen the film so many times, perhaps those little mistakes are now all part of the fun of it.

[movieman]

Hey! Leave old movies as they where made, worts and all. Most of this tweeking stuff is not about making the films better, it's about getting people like us to fork out again for 'another version'

I think the only stuff that should be done is cleaning up old prints and sorting the sound out....thats it.

Sorry for the rant........

cheers:mad:

[StuBruise]

Originally posted by movieman
Hey! Leave old movies as they where made, worts and all. Most of this tweeking stuff is not about making the films better, it's about getting people like us to fork out again for 'another version'


But surely that only applies if you can actually buy the original version in the first place :nuts:

~~stu

[movieman]

I agree.........I would love to be able to buy the original cut version of films I have seen at the cinema (now I appreciate that these versions would be different in other countries due to certification issues).

What I would like to see is (This of couse will never happen) the original version available without all the added stuff on extra discs (many of which ar not really worth the plastic it's taken to make them (padding)). All sold at say £10 (uk sterling) or less a disc.

Am I the only one who thinks having 5 versions of the same film available (NOW WITH 3 SECONDS OF PREVIOUSLY UNSEEN FOOTAGE) just a marketing con.....and very confusing..........?????