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stefmcd
18-02-2002, 21:48
Connect the RF out on box to wall aerial.
Now every telly in the house connected to a wall aerial can receive the Sky signal - just tune it in to say channel 6?

Only downside is u will not receive the terrestrial signal thru the main telly - this could be solved by using a y adaptor at the wall socket - not sure haven't tried that yet.

Anyway it's a lot cheaper than ordering sky's wire connection.

kcxdev
18-02-2002, 21:55
yes, the Y adapter (RF Splitter) will solve it. Why do you need an aerial connection anyway? use a scart from digibox to TV and connect the aerial direct to the TV or loop it thru the video. Only problem with this is changing channels when your at the other end of the house ;)

stefmcd
18-02-2002, 22:00
kcxdev - Not sure what u mean here - u need an aerial connection to receive terrestrial signal. If u don't have a Y splitter u are only using the wall socket to send but cannot receive.

kcxdev
18-02-2002, 22:04
I'm confused now. what exactly is this wall socket? does it distribute the terrestrial aerial signal around the house? or is it the main aerial socket?

:confused:

stefmcd
19-02-2002, 06:26
Yes a wall socket means u have an external aerial (usually on the roof) and the wiring is through the walls so that u have aerial points built in to the walls.
Such arrangements are usually essential if u live in a city where the height and number of buildings tend to render a plug in aerial useless.
Are u saying if you plug a little plastic aerial into the rf out this will send the same signal to the other tv's?
If so then this is even better cause u are not then limited to Tv's which are conected to a wall socket.

kcxdev
19-02-2002, 13:57
yeh, sorry, was confued about this wall thing. So this wall socket connects to the other TV's and to the only aerial to the house, and you want to take the satellite RF out into this socket and distribute the signal around the house, and use the splitter to take the aerial signal into the main TV? I dunno if the RF signal can be carried both ways like that but might as well try as its not gonna cost much (if anything). Or you can just use sky to watch the terrestrial channels seeing they're all on there.

Vinster
19-02-2002, 14:02
Have your Arial go into the Sky box, and the Sat cable, and then you have two RF outs. One to your TV and the other to your other rooms (pref. a booster) and split it from there -- easy!

Also, you can go into System Setup and change the RF Channel number if it conflicts with anything else you have (i.e. ITV Digital box etc).

ChrisA
19-02-2002, 16:00
Yes this is the way to do it. It is MUCH better with a booster. Don't forget to turn on the second outlet power supply under the RF outputs menu of the System installers menu though.

Roy
19-02-2002, 18:41
Are there 2 RF outputs on the back of the digiboxes then? I'd never noticed that...

Roy
19-02-2002, 19:02
Ah, found them :)

I can't find any menu options that relate to switching PSU's on for them though? In fcat I can't find any menu options that mention RF at all....

If it matters, I've got a Panasonic box...

Vinster
19-02-2002, 19:02
Yup! They have been there from the start - thats how Sky put the second link in - good con eh?! :D

Roy
19-02-2002, 19:07
Originally posted by Vinster
Yup! They have been there from the start - thats how Sky put the second link in - good con eh?! :D

Extremely good con.. what about the RF menu options mate?

Vinster
19-02-2002, 19:14
Its a "secret" menu for Sky Installation engineers.

Do this:

1 press "SERVICES"
2 Press 4 ( system setup)
3 Enter 01- SELECT (Now installer setup will appear) - you will not see 01 appear on the screen , if you donīt enter the 0 the help menu will appear.

You should see it in there

:)

Roy
19-02-2002, 19:18
Ah nice one, thanks.

I'll go off an try it in a mo'

So what I need to do is enable the PSU for the RF output yeah?

Roy
19-02-2002, 19:42
Thanks Vinster, done that. I can't have a proper play with the wiring until tomorrow as the missus is watching *****, while taping ***** (as usual) :nuts:

I dunno, all that expensive kit and she still mages to find loads of crap to watch on TV :nuts:

Thanks for your help so far, I'll redo the cabling tomorrow and see how I get on.

stefmcd
19-02-2002, 20:16
Vinster - Are you saying run a cable from the RF out of the digibox to each of the other tellies in the house. If so I understand what u mean but I don't really want all that cabling running all over the house. By feeding it back to a wall socket u avoid such hassles.

Vinster
19-02-2002, 20:24
Originally posted by stefmcd
Vinster - Are you saying run a cable from the RF out of the digibox to each of the other tellies in the house. If so I understand what u mean but I don't really want all that cabling running all over the house. By feeding it back to a wall socket u avoid such hassles.

If I am understanding you correctly: The wall socket is linked to the Arial outside. You may have other cables that have been put into your house that go to sockets in other rooms, but you are cutting off the arial.

By simply running a cable to a booster, hidden in say a bedroom, and then running cables from that booster to other rooms (maybe under the floorboards as I have done here), or even running along the outside of the house (brown cable, not so easy to spot when done neatly), you will have a very good picture in each room receiving all channels.

But, each to their own ;)

macmatt
20-02-2002, 10:49
If you split the signal from the back of the second RF output on the digibox would there be enough power going through each feed for a TV link (remote magic eye thingy whatever its called!) to work on both? Would this definitely require a booster?

It's just that I've heard that the signal to the TV link doesn't like to be broken/split at all, which is a bit annoying as in our new house (moving in april) I would like to feed skydigi to two additional tellies (bedroom and kitchen) but still be able to control the box from at least one of them.

Vinster
20-02-2002, 11:06
This is what I have:

Satelite Feed (3 feeds, quad LNB)
Arial Feed (1 Roof Mounted Arial) - connected to Arial booster in loft

Both go to the living room

In Living room:

Sky+ Box with two feeds (for recording) - output 1 to TV, and 1 to booster box in kids playroom downstairs.

Kids playroom:

Sky Digibox with own feed from Satellite, dual output 1 to TV, and another to low booster - feeding 1 TV in the Kitchen, and another low booster in Room 4 upstairs.

Room 4 Upstairs

Low booster boosing to PC in room 4, TV in rooms 1, 2 and 3.

All works fine, picture is great.

yj80
20-02-2002, 15:52
I've had a setup like this for a few years now.

Satellite, and terestrial Rf both feeding into VCR.
Output from VCR Y-split - one to TV, other back into wall socket (well, under the actual wall socket and into the pipe :D ) back up into a 5 splitter/booster in the attic.

5 (don't ask) outputs dropping back down into various rooms each with their own TV's.

Basically, I can watch all terrestrial channels, Sky (or Sky+) output or videos anywhere in the house.

The number of fights this has prevented is well-worth it.

Under the right conditions (Sky+ box on standby) I can also watch a DVD anywhere as well - but as the output is via RF, it's not the best quality so it doesn't happen very often.

Mind you, the downside is if I ever have to change the wiring, I need to lie down afterwards as it makes my head hurt :D

Roy
20-02-2002, 16:01
Originally posted by yj80
I've had a setup like this for a few years now.

Satellite, and terestrial Rf both feeding into VCR.


Do you mean here that you've got a Y splitter feeding two inputs into the one VCR input? I've been wondering about this and how it would work for me if so... or have I completely misunderstood?

yj80
21-02-2002, 10:06
Do you mean here that you've got a Y splitter feeding two inputs into the one VCR input?

Sorry, I can see how my wording could be misinterpreted.

Sky+ feeds into VCR via Scart, terrestrial via RF In.

Sky+ out to TV AV2 via Scart

VCR out to TV/Booster via Y-splitter.

Unfortunately my ancient VCR only has 1 Scart, or I'd use a second to connect to the TV allowing the RF output to all go to the booster.

Even so, the split signal when enhanced by the booster is as good on all the other TV's as on the main one.

I live in NI, and strangely the only crap reception I have is terrestrial BBC1 - even Channel 5 and the Irish stations are better - RTE, Network 2 and TV3 all have excellent picture quality.

Hope that helps

Roy
21-02-2002, 10:24
Ah I see, thanks.

Presumably this means that when you play a video it auto switches and that video is played on every TV in the house (assuming they're turned on :D )?

What I woudl like to do is watch a video in the kitchen but watch Sky in the lounge, but as the video routes through the Skybox it aauto switches and overrides the Sky signal, if you see what I mean..

Dave B
21-02-2002, 12:07
Originally posted by ChrisA
Yes this is the way to do it. It is MUCH better with a booster. Don't forget to turn on the second outlet power supply under the RF outputs menu of the System installers menu though.

I think I have just worked out why the picture on my second TV is crap, I didn't know about this option.

Dave

Dave B
21-02-2002, 12:11
Originally posted by yj80
Under the right conditions (Sky+ box on standby) I can also watch a DVD anywhere as well - but as the output is via RF, it's not the best quality so it doesn't happen very often.

How the hell do you get a DVD player to use the RF ?

Dave

Lagerlout
22-02-2002, 12:42
Think it depends on your player, I know mine (709) won't output in RF. However the video will, so tune the video into AV (the DVD player) and tune the other TV's to watch the video.

Did that make sense? Does to me, but I've wired up a few of these. On the cabling side, just put a splitter right before the TV in the main room and run it to a booster. Cables can be a mess, but I just ran them through the floors and in the water pipe channels.

Dave B
22-02-2002, 15:32
Originally posted by Lagerlout
Think it depends on your player, I know mine (709) won't output in RF. However the video will, so tune the video into AV (the DVD player) and tune the other TV's to watch the video.

I personally don't think that will work. Surley a video won't convert a scart/composite signal into RF :confused:

Dave

Lagerlout
22-02-2002, 18:02
My parents have a TV that has no SCART sockets, yet I still wire the sky to the VCR with SCART. While watching the video channel, turning on the sky switches the vid to that input, and it's displayed on the TV. I'm sure it's nothing special in the vid, I've done it to a few sets.

Besides, it must be able to choose whether to output to SCART or RF because both options are there on the back of the vid, and it has to convert it from the signal picked up from the tape. Why shouldn't it use the same converter for other signals

poissony
23-02-2002, 13:47
It does work, connect DVD to VCR using one of the AV inputs (e.g AV2) of the VCR. Select AV channel on video, RF output to other telly and you will be able to view this on your second TV or VCR. Works fine.

yj80
23-02-2002, 15:37
Originally posted by Roy
Presumably this means that when you play a video it auto switches and that video is played on every TV in the house (assuming they're turned on )?

Only on the channel assigned to the video - all the other channels work as normal. Except Sky. If I want to watch it I have to tune the VCR to Sky, then watch it on that channel elsewhere in the house. I can't remember how I did it, but when I had fewer Scart connections and only the VCR and Sky box, I was able to have Sky on a separate channel of it's own as well.

What I woudl like to do is watch a video in the kitchen but watch Sky in the lounge, but as the video routes through the Skybox it aauto switches and overrides the Sky signal,

This I can do - the equipment is all in the lounge, so I can have a video playing, and watch it on channel 10, or turn to AV2 and watch Sky. Or I can go to any other TV and watch channels 1-10. But as I said - I can't watch Sky anywhere else while a video is on.

The funny thing is, since I got Sky+, that's about all I watch. The VCR has become redundant from a tape point-of-view. It's main function now is as a signal router.:)