View Full Version : Harper's Island (US Pace) **SPOILERS**
jroadley
17-04-2009, 08:01
Anyone watching this?
Linky (http://www.tv.com/harpers-island/show/75276/summary.html?q=Harper%27s%20Island&tag=search_results;title;1)
Looks interesting...
A horror-inspired murder mystery drama, this CBS series is about a group of friends and family who meet to celebrate a wedding on an island just outside Seattle, an island that is famous for a streak of unsolved murders seven years ago. Suspense ensues when they end up dead one by one, bringing a whole new meaning to the term 'Till death do us part'; has the killer returned or is someone else to blame?
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AdsterUK
17-04-2009, 09:37
I saw the first episode last night. Surprisingly gory for a network show and definitely worth another episode to see how it progresses.
Based on the first episode, it feels like an extended, tv-version of "I know what you did last summer". It had all the expected ingredients, nasty deaths, semi-naked hotties skinnydipping/having sex, a zillion suspects, every character has a "secret", & an out-of-the-way, secluded area for the killer to run amok.
Its main fault is that EVERY character is unlikeable & annoying & you just want them to end up on the wrong end of a machete. Nice eye-candy though, especially the girl that played Ruby in Supernatural last season. She's lost the blonde hair, but looks better for it. Speaking of Supernatural, Bobby also shows up as the Island's sheriff.
Rubbish, but watchable rubbish. :thumbs:
Based on the first episode, it feels like an extended, tv-version of "I know what you did last summer".
Rubbish, but watchable rubbish. :thumbs:
I was going to post this, based on the first two episodes.
Thought the first episode set it's stall out well, offing the one character (other than Elaine Cassidy) that they'd set up to last the duration, and arguably the best known face in the entire cast.
For those who haven't seen episode two yet, it might be worth skipping the 'next week on...' bit, as it gives too much away IMO (and appears to be showing clips from several future episodes).
Vulcan101
18-04-2009, 00:35
Saw ep 1. The first murder was quite nasty and the second was equally as bad.
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ShakeyJake
18-04-2009, 08:06
I quite like it. Can't see it lasting much more than a single season though with the rate people are getting killed off
It was always intended to be a one-off, 13 part show.
ShakeyJake
18-04-2009, 13:08
Ah that could be pretty good then. They won't just keep dragging out.
DrVenkman
18-04-2009, 15:45
Though they did say that they have different stories in place should they go to Season 2. Not that it would impact this season. But they have a different 'mystery' for Season 2. I don't think it could be on the same Island though.
Well so far I like it. And Episode 2 worked better than the first one, mainly cos ep 1 was exposition heavy. They settled into a better groove with part 2 though. I can't help but feel they should've shown both parts the same night.
Anyway. I thought the killer was going to be one of the main group of kids, but after episode 2 it seems very unlikely given that most of them were on the Beach (I can't think of anyone that was missing). Though there's a pretty big clue given in episode 1 that it might be one of them (Though it's more than likely a Red Herring).
I'm loving this, a bit of a blend of IKWYDLS and Scream. All the gore is implied, you don't actually see anything.
I thought it was a bit week how they hadn't even found any of the bodies yet, most of the way through ep two! They've found the hung girl but not the other 4. I think you have to be careful in assuming things. Like that girl got lit on fire at the same time they were rescuing the english man. While they probably did happen at the same time, it's not necessarily true.
My first guess at the killer:
Ben Wellington. He's the cousin of the bride. The alert amoung you might realise that's the guy who was tied to the propeller shaft. How can a dead person be the killer? I'm not sure it was Ben, it could be that Ben dressed the guy up and tied him up. When the body is found everyone will discount Ben as a suspect, since he's dead and he has no head to identify him and they probably won't bother to do any forensic ID.
They could do a second series if they wanted, perhaps looking at the motive of the killer or attempts to track him down.
DrVenkman
21-04-2009, 08:47
Camaj, I have to say that makes a lot of sense. Regarding that first body, we don't know who it is. We just assume it's Ben. Though then again he's the only one they identify as actually missing from the party.
Weirdly enough I saw a promo trailer for the show earlier, and Bill Pullman was actually cast as Uncle Henry, and the groom was also a different actor. Along with the Sheriff. It also had a darker vibe to it.
The promo also shows a LOT of scenes that haven't been featured yet so it looks like they re shot quite a bit.
Uh oh! ... Ratings have been so bad, the show is being moved to Saturday nights, which is normally where shows are sent to die (recently happened to Kings).
At least it hasn't been cancelled (yet!)
Re: Ep.3 ... poorest episode so far, and only one crappy death too. :|
AdsterUK
28-04-2009, 12:28
Maybe not as bad news as it first seemsThe move to Saturday comes on the heels of the first extended DVR playback data for the HARPER'S ISLAND premiere on April 9, as well as strong online viewer engagement.
"The preliminary DVR and online streaming data suggest a passionate audience for HARPER'S outside its current Thursday time period borders," said Kelly Kahl, Senior Executive Vice President Prime Time, CBS Television. "This move gives us an opportunity to improve the time period on Thursday while experimenting with more original programming on Saturday, and continuing to serve an audience that is clearly engaged in the ongoing HARPER'S ISLAND story."
or in other words, "the crappy ratings don't help our advertsing rates and sweeps are coming up so we'll keep it on air in a slot that doesn't matter as people watch it time-shifted and it's a limited series but don't expect a second season". ;)
DrVenkman
28-04-2009, 13:01
Pretty much, but the problem with US TV now is that they're at a loss. With DVR, downloading, streaming via Hulu etc, the 'Prime Time' slots are not really what they once were. Ratings aren't immediate anymore because people feel they have a freedom to watch when they want to watch. Without those prime time slots, the networks don't really know what to do.
Take Fox and the Terminator/Dollhouse experiment. They weren't dumping the shows (They could've easily canned Terminator when they wanted) but they didn't know what night to put them on.
Here's my zany theory (never gonna be right, but hey...)
The killer is the main woman. The death of her mother caused her personality to fragment, but it's never surfaced because she was away from the island. Coming back has brought this alter-ego to the surface. She doesn't even realise it's her because she's in some kind of fugue state when she commits the murders.
I had similar thoughts after ep.2 Statto.
I even went as far as thinking she was also responsible for the original murders too, with her father (the sheriff) covering for her.
This week's was another poor one, especially the incredibly lame "death-of-the-week".
I just watched the first 4 episodes back-to-back, this kept me up all night! :eek:
It's really utter rubbish but it's exciting enough to keep me interested and more importantly keep me watching. As Tony said, it falls down on everyone being so damned unlikeable. I want them all to die horribly, which perversely IS the whole point of the show! :nuts:
4 episodes in though and they are already really stretching the format especially with the money sub-plot and the sub/dom affair between the brother in law and step-mother!
But I can forgive the ridiculous story because I really want to know who done it! I'm guessing it'll end up being uber lame but here's hoping it's a fun ride for the remaining 9 episodes (I do wish it was more than just a daft "page turner" though).
For some reason I'm picturing the denumont involving the whole hotel going up in flames! :shrug: I also reckon the reporter who wrote all the articles about the original killings is going to figure in the solution somewhere too, in fact I won't be surprised if they are the killer!
Oh and please, PLEASE kill that annoying tea-cup-breaking, flower-murdering brat, Madison, next! :D
Oh and please, PLEASE kill that annoying tea-cup-breaking, flower-murdering brat, Madison, next! :D
:clap: What he said... I cant stand her.
WeaselFierce
04-05-2009, 07:10
I had similar thoughts after ep.2 Statto.
I even went as far as thinking she was also responsible for the original murders too, with her father (the sheriff) covering for her.
This week's was another poor one, especially the incredibly lame "death-of-the-week".
Could be.
It's funny how the Sheriff always seems to be covering something when there's talk about him killing the original murderer. He just states he's dead without ever going in to details.
BTW, how come no one seems to have noticed the lass with the rat dog has been missing for two days now?
Weasel,
Regarding the Sheriff, if you freeze frame the newspaper article by P J Tancinco (at the very end of episode 3) it says that he shot John Wakefield "several times" and that his was the only gun fired.
Makes me think that the Sheriff was responsible for the original murders and killed Wakefield to cover them up and provide a killer and that the reporter knows this and is onto him, killing out of a twisted revenge or something. The note written across that particular newspaper article "You found her, now find me" makes me think it's a BIG clue that it's the reporter. Of course in the moment we are meant to think that it's a message from "John Wakefield" but given what the message was delivered ON, I am adamant that the killer is "P J Tancinco, news reporter".
jroadley
04-05-2009, 17:23
4 episodes in, I'm quite enjoying it. It's not great, and some of the acting is wooden as hell but it kills 40 minutes in our house.
Why does it make you think that Richie?
This weeks ep was okay, one death that was accidental and another close shave that may or may not be accidental (was I the only one screaming "don't go in the pool you idiot?).
It's a bit weird they've only discovered two bodies so far, although Hurley-lite knows about a third. I'm not sure why they thought taking the money was illegal, although not reporting it might be.
Why does it make you think that Richie?
It's what I would do if I were writing it!
Present the audience with a clue from the killer that is interpreted one way at the time but actually means something else entirely.
I would also make sure the first few episodes have enough references and clues so that afterwards you can go back and say to the audience "see, it was right in front of you the whole time but you were looking the other way!".
So, what we know:
The killer knows the island, it's history, residents and workings very well.
The killer knows how to get around everywhere.
The killer can blend in and go about undetected without suspicion.
What is more perfect for this than a local newspaper reporter? There have been numerous references to clippings and stories (from the one left for the main girl, to her using clippings in her present, to scenes at the actual office of the local paper "Harper's Globe"). Plus there is the extra online series to support the main show called 'Harper's Globe' that is about some woman working on archiving the newspaper online (I've only seen clip #1 of that because it's tedious).
Anyway, that's my theory and I'm sticking to it for now! :D
Unless, camaj, you mean "why does it make me think the Sheriff did the original murders?" Well I don't know why but it makes me think it's a message to him that someone knows that he got the wrong man or set-up the wrong man to either cover for himself or to get closure on the case or something. Whichever way it plays out I think the Sheriff is far from innocent (in fact he probably sent his daughter away out of guilt and also fear because he knew the real killer was still out there)!
Oh dear, I am giving this crap way too much brain space! :nuts: :help: :D
Episode 5: Actually nice and tense in parts! Cujo made me jump! :D
:lol: at the ending but damn damn damn just a few inches out!
The red herring set-ups are coming thick and fast now (weird brother, the melted man) as are the ridiculous Saw like contraptions by the looks of it! More please! :D
The whole thing is totally retarded like the entire plotline with the stolen money and the friend who died accidentally being buried in the woods! but I can't help but really enjoy it!
Oh and obviously the killer is an Ewok fan! :D
Yeah a little better this week. At least we got a better death.
I assume the wedding is off or at least delayed after what happened at the end? ... Plus I guess the cat is now out of the bag with such a public murder, should spice things up a little more.
I hope the show has the guts to off Madison in a gruesome fashion! I was really hoping the firecrackers would blow her fingers off but no! :(
WeaselFierce
10-05-2009, 13:17
Hmmm, my money's on the groom. He just don't look right to me. :p
Hopefully some of the main characters might actually start doing a bit of dirt diggin themselves now we have two new bodies in the public domain.
Been a bit overwhelming so far with so many deaths but no real notion of any kind of context behind the personal relationships. Are they all just random victims or is there specific purpose to it all?
Have to say though, I am enjoying the series. It's just nice to have something a little different in the format of a TV show.
I hope they show all 13 episodes though, there's worrying stuff online about it being removed from Saturdays on CBS now (having already been moved from Thursdays)! They're not making it easy for those who are enjoying it!
I hope they show all 13 episodes though, there's worrying stuff online about it being removed from Saturdays on CBS now (having already been moved from Thursdays)! They're not making it easy for those who are enjoying it!
I really hope that the rumours are wrong...there is only half a dozen episodes to go, can't they leave well enough alone... :(
The Harper's Island forum at cbs.com has a variety of takes on the news, I am choosing to believe the poster who says it "comes back the following week and the producers have promised over and over again that they will air all 13 episodes..... My guess is that because this is "sweeps week" (a week when ratings count for commercial and financial purposes), CBS is running something that will do better than Harper's. They'll put it back after sweeps".
I'm not up on all the sweeps thing but fingers crossed this is why.
Finally the panic sets in this week! :clap:Thought the big set up of JD being the suspect seemed like a red herring, but I cant see how innocent he can be if he is hanging out with old melty face.
This continues to be spectacularly stupid! :clap: Digging up graves without any permission! :lol:
That Madison brat just becomes more and more killable with every episode. Will be so funny if she's the killer (after all the opening titles has a little girl voice saying "one by one")! For a young child who saw someone brutally killed right in front of her she's remarkably calm and untraumatised! Oh and ******* annoying to boot!
WeaselFierce
24-05-2009, 06:15
Money's still on the Groom for me. He spent his summers on the island in the past and I think someone mentioned it was his idea to have the wedding there (but I may have just dreamt that up!). Most of the killings so far seem centred around him (the cousin or whatever on the propeller, uncle whatsit and now Papa Burghi).
That said, no idea what the deal is with melty and JD either. Also, with Callum Keith Rennie as Wakefield in all the papers you've gotta bet he's gonna show up sooner or later.
BTW, anyone any guesses as to why Louis Theroux looked all shifty at the end of this episode? Have to admit, he's the only character I think I actually like apart from the Sheriff. :)
Vulcan101
25-05-2009, 23:04
Maybe Wakefield had a psychotic twin!
This continues to be spectacularly stupid! :clap: Digging up graves without any permission! :lol:
I don't think many people would have a problem with that, given that it's on an island that seems tiny and it was a mass murderer. Who's going to know, let alone complain?
The real stupidity is thinking the presence of a skeleton would prove something, must be Wakefield then! There was absolutely no point in digging it up to begin with unless you had a forensic pathologist with you.
If the little girl is the killer, how come a murder happened right outside her window? She didn't see it either, on the reverse shot you can see she's fixing her hair in the reflection.
This weeks episode was a bit frustrating and flabby I thought...lots of explaining, no action. :(
Lol, just me watching then? Passable episode this week, if chock full of cliches. Still reckon the smart money has to be on Jimmybeing the big bad. I reckon that Wakefield is his father and he loves/blames Abbie in equal measures for his fathers obsession
rustybin
06-06-2009, 22:07
No I'm watching this as well. Along with Dollhouse at the moment, and Harper's Island is by far the more enjoyable programme. Absolute trash but brilliant fun.
So many red-herrings, I'd be surprised if the writers have decided who did it yet.
Just caught up with the most recent 2 episodes. All this revealing of Abby's mother's connection with Wakefield is a tad :nuts: Wouldn't all of this have come out years ago, especially as Sheriff Daddy put him in prison for the preceding 17 years prior to the original murders!??
Throughout the latest episode (#8) I was thinking
"oh noes, NOW they're taking "inspiration" from 'I still know what you did last summer' and that can only mean we're dealing with the Son-of-Wakefield or summat!"
Urgh! I just had a horrible thought! Abby is going to turn out to be Wakefield's daughter isn't she!? :brickwall
I loved the world's most half-hearted "hunt for Madison"! Even they don't care about that annoying little brat! :lol:
If she was going to die if anyone left the island, I'd just jump in the water and start swimming!
Don't we know who the killer is based on the ending of this weeks ending?
We see Henry on the dock, who's presumably stabbed JD and is about to kill Abbey. JD says "It's about you" to Abbey so presumably he knows who the killer is and why. Didn't Henry's parents die? I can't remember that particular point but if Wakefield was there because of Abbey's mum then I can see why Henry might want to take it out on Abbey even though her mum has been punished enough
Or do you both think that bit was a red herring?
I also discovered that Hurley-lite is actually English! He was born in Luton according to the imbd.
This is just so cack it's untrue, but with only five episodes left before it's all over, I can't not watch it.
Episode 9:
This is getting SOOOOOOO retarded now! All of these people deserve to die! Oh let's have sex and fall asleep whilst a man who was bleeding to death is left alone in the next room unsupervised! Oh here's some tiny crawl spaces with blood all around them, I know let's crawl inside as nothing can possibly happen in here! And let's not ask the really important questions when we come across people we've been trying to find, let's wait for them to casually mention information when they feel like it!
I just want to know who bloody done it and why already!!!!!! :brickwall
Obviously this week's big piece of info is a red herring as far too much was made of it.
My money is now firmly on Sully (if for no other reason than he might kinda look like Leoben if you squint a bit). I really don't give a **** anymore I just want it to be over but I can't stop watching now. Hopefully absolutely everyone will die by the end!
It was really bad this week in parts, and just nonsensical in others.... The cast seemed to jump from room to room with no reason shown or given for why they were there - like when Shane, Katherine and Trish find the tarot card in Shea's room, and then in the next shot Trish has suddenly stolen Shane's car whilst they obliviously have a drink in the bar.
Episode 9:
My money is now firmly on Sully (if for no other reason than he might kinda look like Leoben if you squint a bit).
Although my money is still on Jimmy (did you see the look he gave when Abby mentioned her mums affair with Wakefield?) he would have had to have an accomplice for some of the murders.
And let's not ask the really important questions when we come across people we've been trying to find, let's wait for them to casually mention information when they feel like it!
Yeah, that was pretty dumb! The first thing out of my mouth would be "Who kidnapped you?!!!". It's pretty hard to imagine why he'd do that if he wasn't the killer, unless it's the only way he could make sure the real killer didn't leave the island.
The other annoying thing was JD's death, they still haven't explained what Henry was doing
Did Abbey shoot the killer in the tunnels? It seemed liked it.
ShakeyJake
15-06-2009, 09:14
Well I think it's great fun :D I don't really care who dun it I'm just enjoying the ride
Anyone know when, or even if, this will be shown in the UK?
the Gimp
15-06-2009, 19:05
Anyone know when, or even if, this will be shown in the UK?
BBC Three have bought it, not sure when its going to be broadcast though.
Problem is, by the time they get around to actually screening it spoilers for "who done it" will be rife.
Out on R1 dvd Sept 8th (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Harpers-Island-DVDs-Announced/12105). I know everyone here will be preordering! :D
WeaselFierce
17-06-2009, 21:13
I'm still betting on Henry.
Richie was with Abby when burn victim was arrowed and likewise Sheriff was laid up inside the hut during the same sequence. Unless either of them has an accomplice it can't be them.
Captain_Howdy666
17-06-2009, 23:02
If the Sheriff took the kid, why?
Vulcan101
18-06-2009, 06:37
Not buying that he did. I think that the kid thinks she is playing a game and was told to say the sheriff did it by the real murderer.
If the sheriff did do it then who is his accomplice?
ShakeyJake
18-06-2009, 07:46
If the Sheriff took the kid, why?
Maybe he took and hid her to protect her from the murderer?
Episode 10:
And FINALLY we're getting somewhere! Looks like we have all been completely wrong with our rubbish guesses at every turn! :D
3 episodes to go...
Captain_Howdy666
19-06-2009, 15:53
Hello Lew!
:clap:
Stupidest episode so far and I was enjoying it too!
The kid was lying? Really? :brickwall Bloke left hanging....err try to cut him down maybe? and when the hell does a diversion mean setting light to things outside the main exit so as to light everyone up trying to leave the building? :brickwall :D
Oh that diversion was too funny! I guess doing it the other side of the building wasn't an option!?! They are all so retarded!!!111 :lol:
WeaselFierce
21-06-2009, 10:08
The kid was lying? Really? :brickwall
Lol! Even worse is annoying mum butting in every two seconds with, "Are you saying my daughter's lying!!" -- coz it's not like she's done it before or anything... :doh:
Did think this episode was great fun though.
Told you Leoban would be back :thumbs: Still think he is in league with his sprog though who I still think is Henry.
BTW, how come this entire thread has turned into spoilers now...?
Re: Ep10, I thought this was the most entertaining episode so far, although that isn't really saying much. Good dumb fun though.
Not really surprised at who turned up at the end, but as mentioned above,
Wakefield's son is helping him, and I think his son is that guy that "accidentally" shot himself in the leg, episodes ago. You read it here first! ;)
But it can't be, didn't the fat one bury him?
jroadley
22-06-2009, 09:45
But it can't be, didn't the fat one bury him?
Yeah I thought he did.
I've also update the 1st post so I guess we don't need spoiler tags now?
Well we only have the fat bloke's word that he buried him, it all happened off-camera, and we all know what that usually means. ;)
Worst case, he buried him in a very shallow grave, the bloke digs himself out & Presto! ... the perfect alibi. :D
hmmmm okay so we see Booth die in Fatty's arms in episode #4 and then we don't see him again physically. 19 mins into the next episode #5, Fatty goes and talks to the grave he buried him in. Now, unless Booth could hold his breath really well whilst being buried (and had the way to fake a gushing gunshot wound) it's going to be a huuuuuuge stretch to pull that off. Not to mention uber lame. Knowing just how smart this show has been upto now you've probably hit the proverbial nail there Tony! :D
Is Booth's death the only "accidental" non-murder death so far? Everything else (including that "suicide" early on) is a murder right?
the Gimp
24-06-2009, 09:01
Where is everybody else on the island? The bar was full of people celebrating an engagement a few days earlier and people were working the museum and church, and yet when the docks and all the boats explode no one comes to investigate except the one woman who happens to own the bar their all hiding in?
Oooooh, maybe the whole island is in on it? :D
DrVenkman
24-06-2009, 14:29
My friend actually asked the same question about the Locals. Given that the Island obviously has enough of a population to have a Bar going, and we've seen it packed already. Where the hell is everyone? I'm fairly confident it's something that won't get answered though.
Calling it now, I think Jimmy is in on it. He seemed overly keen on Shane powering up that Generator, even after Shane told him something was wrong. So he "Dies" and then reappears as part of a "Deal" and can start killing them from within.
Calling it now, I think Jimmy is in on it. He seemed overly keen on Shane powering up that Generator, even after Shane told him something was wrong. So he "Dies" and then reappears as part of a "Deal" and can start killing them from within.
For once in this thread, that actually makes far too much sense, so is probably true.
I'm sure that'll be right if they are following the "I still know..." rulebook (which appears to be a main source for the writers). Totally lame if that's the case mind but given the huge number of shots where Jimmy has been in the background or slightly out of focus in a two shot with suspicious glances and scowls it'll be no surprise. Unless the actor is just really constipated of course.
I feel so dirty for wanting to know who done it and why so badly! My appetite for trash tv will never be sated. :(
DrVenkman
24-06-2009, 15:06
And of course, those with Bravestar like hearing will remember that the Diary says that wakefield had a "Child", there's no mention of the Sex. I think it's going to play out one of two ways. The Father and "Child" are doing the killing together, or the Child is someone else (The Bride maybe) and the Wakefield is doing it all for her. Afterall they do mention that if Abbey is the one being punished then why are all the Wedding guests dying.
But my money remains on Jimmy. It was apparantly said that only one of them survives the Island by the end of it, and I really hope it's not true. Despite my best intentions I've actually warmed to a good few of the characters. I think Henry is unusually smart for this type of thing. He has no qualms about calling the police, he actually does something when he thinks his fiancee is cheating. He even goes ahead and shares information with people rather than holding it back for a few episodes.
But Dammit, that little girl needs to die.
Henry being "smart" = KILLER!!!!!!!111111 ;)
but yes dammit, the brat needs to be impaled on something, then run over, then barbecued.
DrVenkman
24-06-2009, 16:05
Henry being "smart" = KILLER!!!!!!!111111 ;)
but yes dammit, the brat needs to be impaled on something, then run over, then barbecued.
You know what? When that episode comes where her and Abbey escape the tunnels, and the Mother and Bride are driving in the Van, I honestly thought for a brief moment that the daughter was going to open the sewer grate and then get hit by the Truck.
If that happened I'd give the show a free pass no matter how stupid it got.
WeaselFierce
24-06-2009, 16:06
It was apparantly said that only one of them survives the Island by the end of it, and I really hope it's not true.
Noooooooo!!! I wanted token English Louis Theroux-alike to get the girl!!! :(
ShakeyJake
26-06-2009, 09:40
Why didn't the English tit just walk up to Wakefield and shoot him with the shotgun? He only had a knife.
Episode 11 was really good I thought ("really good" for this show being "adequate" for most series)! The first deaths where I've actually felt for the characters in question.
I hope this is now going to have a killer twist (pardon the pun) as it's been set-up to be as blindingly obvious as possible so subverting our expectations with the last 2 episodes would be a nice way to round it off.
Episode 11 was really good I thought ("really good" for this show being "adequate" for most series)! The first deaths where I've actually felt for the characters in question.
I hope this is now going to have a killer twist (pardon the pun) as it's been set-up to be as blindingly obvious as possible so subverting our expectations with the last 2 episodes would be a nice way to round it off.
Looking forward to watching it this evening.
Now Richie, get your ass over to the top-ten US shows & start voting for your favourite shows ... Poor Harpers Island is languishing back in 84th place! :p
Vulcan101
26-06-2009, 22:06
How the **** can you miss someone with a shotgun at those ranges?
Just go with it! ;) No point questioning logic at this point! :D
Why didn't the English tit just walk up to Wakefield and shoot him with the shotgun? He only had a knife.
Much like the lass in the bar picking up the shotgun and deciding to get out with the other women instead of just walking up to him and shooting him too! :brickwall:brickwall:brickwall
Much like the lass in the bar picking up the shotgun and deciding to get out with the other women instead of just walking up to him and shooting him too! :brickwall:brickwall:brickwall
Indeed :lol:
I've watched some **** in my time but this really is taking it to another level. :nuts:
I thought the islanders were evacuated but the wedding people didn't get off because they were looking for the little girl.
Why didn't the English tit just walk up to Wakefield and shoot him with the shotgun? He only had a knife.
Didn't he use both shells beforehand?
How slow was the barmaid? Couldn't get a shot off before he got to her? Then the other one ran out instead of shooting, then when I thought she might shoot him as he came out, she just shoots the door! Abbey takes a shot and misses, why not wait until you're closer? The two friends shoot the door in the hotel, why?!
The dumbest thing is when the girl just sits there and watches the english guy get killed. Either help him out or run! If there are tunnels, why didn't the Sheriff block them when these murders started?
Didn't he use both shells beforehand?
No he took his last shot at him when he was standing 30 yards from him, much like the woman did earlier ......... it seems the shotgun's natural enemy is stationary objects.
His last shot? That would be beforehand then. If he hadn't used his ammo he could have defended himself on the bridge.
His last shot? That would be beforehand then. If he hadn't used his ammo he could have defended himself on the bridge.
:shrug: Before what? He could of walked up to him at any point when he had ammo, not just when they were on the bridge.
re: the above half dozen posts, this is why they all deserve to die! :D
Before he got killed. I'm saying he shouldn't have shot, just gone over the bridge, if he came after them, then shoot him.
WeaselFierce
29-06-2009, 21:08
No he took his last shot at him when he was standing 30 yards from him, much like the woman did earlier ......... it seems the shotgun's natural enemy is stationary objects.
Reckon Wakefield snuck in earlier and warped all the barrels. He's secretly chuckling to himself every time he stands directly in front of them!
Was quite saddened by the deaths this episode. Poor Shane. Poor Louis. Poor Louis' bird. :(
Still don't buy Jimmy for the accomplice. I mean, what the **** was Sheriff Ellsworth thinking trading his life to put suspect number one back with his daughter!!? :shrug: Double or nuthin' my money's still on Henry. :thumbs:
Yeah I reckon Jimmy is a classic misdirection, much like how we were all convinced Abby would be Wakefield's kid.
If it IS Jimmy OR Henry I won't be happy. Everyone should watch "I still know what you did last summer" (if you can bare to) before the final couple of episodes to see how crap either choice would be.
Why would Henry do any of it? What possible reason could he have?
Actually if whoever it is puts a bullet / brick / biro through Madison's head as a way of revealing themselves then this show will be a masterpiece! :D :clap:
As you say, if it turns out to be Henry or Jimmy, that would be incredibly lame. It has to be someone we think is dead, but isn't really, for it to a genuine cool twist.
And if they do actually kill the kid, then that sure earns some bonus points.
Captain_Howdy666
29-06-2009, 22:30
As you say, if it turns out to be Henry or Jimmy, that would be incredibly lame. It has to be someone we think is dead, but isn't really, for it to a genuine cool twist.
s.
Uh, that wouldn't be a cool twist, it's what happens in pretty much all the ****** teen horror movies.
WeaselFierce
30-06-2009, 05:34
Actually if whoever it is puts a bullet / brick / biro through Madison's head as a way of revealing themselves then this show will be a masterpiece! :D :clap:
Not to mention her annoying overprotective mom too. She's really ******* me off snapping at anyone who tries to question the lying little ****! :razz:
FYI peeps, there's no episode this week (probably down to July 4th and all that) but the finale is a "2 hour event" next week with the final 2 episodes back to back.
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and a little finale featurette:
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ShakeyJake
10-07-2009, 09:34
Just a warning for anyone who like me just watched the start of episode 13, make sure you watch 12 first (not that I can find that yet) as the "previously on" has quite a big spoiler :(
Oops, I didn't read your post because I thought it might be a spoiler :(
***NO SPOILERS IN MY POST HERE***
Just watched episodes 12 and 13.
All I have to say is: WHAT A ******* PIECE OF **** AND A WHAT A MASSIVE WASTE OF TIME THE WHOLE MISERABLE SERIES TURNED OUT TO BE!
But Richie, you say that every week anyway!
But Richie, you say that every week anyway!
***NO spoilers***
I was really, really hoping the final episodes would redeem the series but they actually made it worse. I'm just so disappointed! I know that's daft based on everything I've had to say up to now but I was just hoping it would turn out to be a tiny bit clever with an interesting denouement. Instead we get a massively bungled and unsatisfying finale with a WTF? shift to the final section! The writers on this show were just incredibly lazy with neither a hint of originality or even logical thought for their own basic plot or character motivations. It's even more of a shame because in episode 12 everything was actually set-up for a really decent ending before it went in completely the wrong direction with hopeless execution.
No one I know watches this, no one I know should watch this, so this is really the only place I can come to say something and be fully understood on the subject .......... THAT WAS ******* ****.
That is all.
ShakeyJake
12-07-2009, 10:22
meeehh the ending wasn't great but overall I enjoyed the series.
Has it been renewed for a second series? Not that I know how that would work.
I'm with you Richie, the finale was ******* APPALLING!
A shame as I was actually enjoying it more as it went along & was hoping for some kind of neat twist at the end, but NO, we got a typical lame, illogical, dull ending that had my eyes rolling so much, it gave me a headache. They couldn't even redeem it a little by being really evil & killing everyone, christ! even the bloody kid survived ... BOOOOO! :|
rustybin
13-07-2009, 14:18
It ended as it started, utter rubbish. Once a lot of the tottie got slaughtered, it lost a lot of it's appeal. A bit of a guilty pleasure though.
WeaselFierce
14-07-2009, 21:28
Hmmmm.... last 20 minutes were *****. I figured Henry had a vendetta against his fake family pretty much from the beginning with Uncle whatsit and cousin propellerblade getting offed in the first episode. I expected the big revelation to tie in the Bride's family though. I mean they massacred practically the whole lot of them for no apparent reason :doh:
As for the wedding was the only way to get Abbie back to the island!? Why not just kidnap her dad and send her a note? Would have been a bit more straightforward.
It was a cool concept for a show and I must admit I did finally start to care for several characters over it's run time (something which can't be said for just about every teen slasher movie made in the last few years!) but it could have used some seriously better writing.
It was a cool concept for a show and I must admit I did finally start to care for several characters over it's run time (something which can't be said for just about every teen slasher movie made in the last few years!) but it could have used some seriously better writing.
This.
Chloe and Cal turned out to the rather sweet heart of the series. It would've been nice to have seen their roles drastically altered and for them to triumph and survive as they turned out to be decent characters.
Based on the number of fan vids on youtube I guess they were pretty well liked!
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DrVenkman
15-07-2009, 09:58
I thought the ending was great. I can't really see the complaints about it. It does leave some niggling issues and I think the non-death of one character was a bit of a copout, but apart from that they really sold it.
The video at the end was a nice touch, particulary *his* last words.
I expected one final twist which I thought was hinted at, and which I think would have been much more satisfying:Wakefield's evidence that Henry was his son was a bit flimsy -- and all we got was a look from Abby's mum in a flashback that could have meant something else. I had hoped that it would turn out that Jimmy was the son after all, but wasn't a killer. Henry at one point said that Wakefield had been wanting to kill Jimmy for ages, and he also said that (Wakefield said that) one must kill the person one loves to be complete. Hence: psycho Wakefield grooms disturbed boy as fake son, plans big killing spree and intends for it to end with Wakefield killing real son Jimmy and Henry killing Abby. They were the pairs left alive last too!
Would have been a bit more satisfying, and Henry would have just been a bad boy without the excuse of his genes; Jimmy would have "overcome" his heritage. And Abby wouldn't get her beau, as he would be her half-brother.
Seeing this advertised for BBC3 reminded me about it. Gave up after episode seven - it was just too rubbish to carry on watching, but could someone do a spoiler summing up what happened, who the murderer(s) was/were, and who survived?
Survivors: Abby Mills, Jimmy, ******* annoying brat Madison and her mother Shea (the bride's older sister).
Killers: John Wakefield and his son, Henry (the groom)!
Right, as best as I can remember as I've tried to forget (you'll have to forgive me if this is wrong in any way):
Years ago Sarah Mills (Abby's mum) had an affair with John Wakefield, got preggers with Henry and gave him up for adoption. Wakefield found Henry years later and the truth naturally turned him into a revenge seeking psycho.
Henry set up the whole wedding party to lure Abby back to Harper's Island so he could take revenge on the family that "abandoned" him. Abby was his best friend growing up when he used to visit Harper's Island each summer with his adoptive parents. He had always wuved her not knowing they were half-siblings. See what love does to a boy!
Wakefield Snr had already killed Henry and Abby's mum in 2002 as part of his legendary massacre which was revenge on the Sheriff (Abby's dad) for putting him away for 17 years (for an earlier attempted murder of a policeman) and also for Sarah choosing him.
Nearly everyone else dies so none of the tedious subplots matter a jot. Hurrah!
******* annoying brat Madison and her mother escape to the mainland on the only motorboat left. Boo!
Ultimately Henry doesn't kill Abby in front of his father like they'd planned but kills him instead (because he wuves her so much) and kidnaps Abby to live with him in a really insecure house, together, forever in some weird incest-love-nest thingy!
Abby escapes within about 10 minutes of course, rescues Jimmy (who Henry had helpfully left tied up in a shed) and kills Henry. They get rescued and taken to the mainland.
Yes, it really is that exciting!
Survivors: Abby Mills, Jimmy, ******* annoying brat Madison and her mother Shea (the bride's older sister).
Killers: John Wakefield and his son, Henry (the groom)!
Right, as best as I can remember as I've tried to forget (you'll have to forgive me if this is wrong in any way):
Years ago Sarah Mills (Abby's mum) had an affair with John Wakefield, got preggers with Henry and gave him up for adoption. Wakefield found Henry years later and the truth naturally turned him into a revenge seeking psycho.
Henry set up the whole wedding party to lure Abby back to Harper's Island so he could take revenge on the family that "abandoned" him. Abby was his best friend growing up when he used to visit Harper's Island each summer with his adoptive parents. He had always wuved her not knowing they were half-siblings. See what love does to a boy!
Wakefield Snr had already killed Henry and Abby's mum in 2002 as part of his legendary massacre which was revenge on the Sheriff (Abby's dad) for putting him away for 17 years (for an earlier attempted murder of a policeman) and also for Sarah choosing him.
Nearly everyone else dies so none of the tedious subplots matter a jot. Hurrah!
******* annoying brat Madison and her mother escape to the mainland on the only motorboat left. Boo!
Ultimately Henry doesn't kill Abby in front of his father like they'd planned but kills him instead (because he wuves her so much) and kidnaps Abby to live with him in a really insecure house, together, forever in some weird incest-love-nest thingy!
Abby escapes within about 10 minutes of course, rescues Jimmy (who Henry had helpfully left tied up in a shed) and kills Henry. They get rescued and taken to the mainland.
Yes, it really is that exciting!
Let's see, what smileys to use?
:nuts: :lol: :help:
Thanks for the precis. No season two, so thank heaven for small mercies.
DrVenkman
22-08-2009, 18:07
I really liked it actually. It's not 'Slam Bam' action all the way, but at least the killer's motives were somewhat believable.
Forgot to ask, but did they explain the bloke tied under the boat in the first episode?
And why did Henry kill Uncle Harry Hamlin?
at least the killer's motives were somewhat believable.Um, yeah. No. No they weren't. :D
statto sorry but I can't rem the reasons about those 2 you mention. Not sure it even matters ultimately!
WeaselFierce
22-08-2009, 19:39
Forgot to ask, but did they explain the bloke tied under the boat in the first episode?
And why did Henry kill Uncle Harry Hamlin?
The rational behind virtually all the murders was practically none existant. Only reason I think is suggested is that
They lied to Henry his whole life about who his real father was -- the rotten ************!!!!
So guys is this worth obtaining or is it worth watching at Uk pace when it arrives or is it really a waste of 13 hours that could be better used elseways?
Smiler.
P.S. Dont wanna read thru the thread in case its worth watching.
So guys is this worth obtaining or is it worth watching at Uk pace when it arrives or is it really a waste of 13 hours that could be better used elseways?
I watched seven episodes then gave up on it. From my perspective I've wasted 5 1/2 hours of my time and £0.00 would be too much to pay for it.
All IMO of course.
statto's right, it's pretty much a waste of almost 9 hours of your life you can never replace. If there's nothing else on at all maybe give it a watch but it's so annoying and so lame that it's not worth bothering with frankly.
Thats cool guys, there are too many decent shows I'm tryin to fit in :thumbs:
Smiler
I would say watch it. I actually enjoyed it right up until the ending which was unbelievably crap. I didn't even bother to post in this thread any more, there was just no point.
Has anyone seen there are two films out soon with Harper island-esq plots? I think one is called "A perfect getaway" and the other has Di caprio in I think.
To be fair it's a pretty well worn set-up innit so it's no surprise that it's used quite a bit! The Scorsese / DiCaprio film Shutter Island looks ace though.
That's it, Shutter island.
I can only really think of I still know what you did last summer and even that didn't really involve the people living on the island.
Harper's Island's basic set-up is nicked from Agatha Christie's "And then there were none" only with about 0.1% of it's inventiveness!
Here's a review at dvdauthority (http://www.dvdauthority.com/reviews.asp?ReviewID=6097) for Harper's Island: The DVD Edition for anyone who cares, not that anyone will I'm sure! :D
dmb6473a
05-11-2009, 21:22
Just finished watching this series. Easily the best show in a long time (and much better than certain shows that have been around for years). It's the quickest that I've gone through an entire series since the first season of Veronica Mars.
Todd Tomorrow
23-11-2009, 19:09
I ended up watching this on DVD (great transfer for an SD!) because I missed the series on BBC3 and I liked the idea. Overall I really enjoyed it. Obviously it's not a high quality series like Mad Men or The Wire, just trashy fun and as such it worked perfectly well and has its place. It felt like and 90s soap opera spliced with a 90s slasher film, Melrose Place meets Scream. In Abby the series had a likable heroine who reminded me of a young Jamie Lee Curtis and Cal and Chloe were the most fun characters. I'd figured out the big plot twist at the end by around episode five or six. If you've seen enough murder mysteries it seems rather obvious. It all unravelled somewhat in the last episode, but not enough for the whole thing not to have been worthwhile.
It's more Dawson's (whiny) Creek than (fabulous) Melrose Place.
Have you seen 'I still know what you did last summer' as it's basically the same.
Did you watch it all in quick succession as that probably makes the whole thing far less painful than it was watching it "in the US" at the painfully protracted pace (including some gaps of several weeks between episodes).
Please tell me you were willing that ******* annoying bitch Madison to die a horrible violent lispy death?!
:help: :nuts:
Todd Tomorrow
23-11-2009, 19:59
Yes, I watched it two to four episodes at a time and it's the kind of thing that's best watched in a binge.
Madison wasn't the greatest character, being set up as that old horror trope of the (possibly) evil child and never quite that convincingly. It was unlikely though that they'd kill off a young child on a network series. I thought Sully survived far to long, really didn't like him, but Cal's and Chloe's 'Liebestot' was rather moving (and cribbed from Last of the Mohican's) and the high point of the show for me.
It was unlikely though that they'd kill off a young child on a network series like this.Indeed, which was a crying shame as she deserved it the most!
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