[Multi] Street Fighter IV - Part 2 - My Stick's Bigger Than Your Pad! [Archive]

Tom Whitaker

18-02-2009, 16:38

Yay!!! I ordered from PLAY, 2x TE sticks and 2x Arcade sticks (1 for 360 and 1 for PS3) Got confirmation from play that they have shipped both Arcade sticks but only the 1 TE stick, booooo!

Still no word from Amazon yet though, which i have another TE stick, game, and 2 pads on order. I dont really want to amend this order as there has been reports as doing so pushes you back to the end of the pre-order que!!!When did you order from Play? When they came on this week, or were they on prior to that?

Got 4 Fightsticks coming from Game, so that's me and my mates (and this weekend's fun) sorted and guaranteed... but I'd really like a TE.

alphatyrant

18-02-2009, 16:41

Are the MadCatz joypads still available form anywhere?

lettuce

18-02-2009, 17:43

When did you order from Play? When they came on this week, or were they on prior to that?

Got 4 Fightsticks coming from Game, so that's me and my mates (and this weekend's fun) sorted and guaranteed... but I'd really like a TE.

When they were put up on monday just gone was it??, about half 4 on that day i placed the order

Tom Whitaker

18-02-2009, 17:59

Ooh.....

lettuce

18-02-2009, 18:13

Ooh.....

what about you's???

Morton

18-02-2009, 18:26

light+medium+hard punch are needed for Ken etc ultra combo's.

Ah, I wondered why I couldn't did. After about 20 mins trying ,in a trial mode, I finally managed to do one Shinryuken but couldn't repeat it.

I might have to look into one of these pads.

Ono

18-02-2009, 18:26

Oh FFS!!

Sat here at PC happily thinking about when the 360 version shipped from Play.com (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=2) is going to arrive when I get an email from Sendit.com (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=72) saying my 360 version had despatched too!!

Looks like I forgot I had it on order with them!! :nuts:

Tom Whitaker

18-02-2009, 18:26

All just showing as Pre-ordered in my account.

lettuce

18-02-2009, 18:30

All just showing as Pre-ordered in my account.

When did you place your order?

GordonJ

18-02-2009, 18:40

For anyone waiting on sticks from shopto, you won't be getting them today. I've just been on the phone to TNT. There was a ballsup last night basically and the goods never arrived at the depo in time for delivery. They're going out tonight, with expected delivery tomorrow.

That explains why my order tracking suddenly stopped. Bit naughty of them as they had it as "out for delivery" for a while.

I'm not having much luck with couriers this week, My US ps3 CE made it over from Kentucky to the Midlands early this morning, so I thought I'd have it to play soon. But for some reason it's been shipped back over to the states and is now sitting in Philadelphia :(

Moldiver

18-02-2009, 18:43

just checked mine and now it shows two consignment numbers. Looks like they must have changed the old one. Still says please call though. We'll see tomorrow I guess

ickle yoda1

18-02-2009, 19:04

My tournament stick was posted from GAME today, along with my game, strategy guide and SE stick. I cannot wait to get this baby, think I am more excited about the daft sticks than the game though lol.

Does anyone know, is there a way for a lobby of people to play this on live? I usually play on Live with 4 of my mates, is there an easy way for us all to play each other? I wondered if there is a knockout option.

Moldiver

18-02-2009, 19:13

hopefully on friday the championship update will open up lobbies. unconfirmed I think though

eye__writ

18-02-2009, 19:30

Ah pants. Can't seem to get a pad for a reasonable price now and don't fancy playing this with the 360 controller, but it's already been despatched so it'll have to go to CEX. Shame. :(

Tom Whitaker

18-02-2009, 19:41

When did you place your order?5pm on Monday. I had to call them yesterday to confirm my details though as part of a credit check.

internetuser

18-02-2009, 20:35

25 Feb 2009 - 26 Feb 2009 for my pads from Amazon !!!

Lucky my shopto one is on the way.....

eye__writ

18-02-2009, 20:51

Well I've ordered a couple of pads. Loathe to spend so much for the sake of just one game, especially as I traditionally suck at Street Fighter, but at least I'll have another one for 2-player action, or if I start to regret buying I can keep one sealed to help minimise the pain incurred. :thumbs:

The thing is, it's hard to knock the 360 control pad as it's amazing for most games, but jeez it's gash for this sorta stuff. :lol:

msm13579

18-02-2009, 21:27

internetuser

18-02-2009, 21:39

playing now with normal pad... good but the pad is terrible

Quint

18-02-2009, 22:00

got my pad from shopto today, and i might be the only one who cares, but initial impressions for 2d shooters are not that good, it's too spongy and not that much like a saturn pad, might just need to get used to it though.

Not sure about 2D shooters, buts its bloody good on SFIV. Been playing this evening trying to master Sagat and with the fight pad i can pull off Tiger uppercuts and knees no probelm :thumbs:

zantarous

18-02-2009, 22:16

For those that asked for a on-line guide check out http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/jul/08/street-fighter-4-strategy-guide-hints-and-tips/ for a complete list of moves.

unrealnils

18-02-2009, 22:18

Cheers, cant belive i have a fightpad sitting at home (with sf2t:HD) but im stuvck at work :blah:

Thats whay i coudn't come on for a fight Mol

mr_woo

19-02-2009, 02:10

Absolutely loving this still, managed to unlock Akuma and Gouken and now in the middle of unlocking Seth. I started playing it around 9pm and have only got it off now :nuts:

I take it that if you have unlocked other characters such as Sakura/Dan/Rose etc then you don't need to play through with Ryu etc again to go towards unlocking Seth ?

Playing online was great as well, I've just been jumping into Ranked online matches and so far have over 400BP which is good for someone as naff as me! Been winning quite a few matches and most people have been ok apart from one person who disconnected when about to lose and some american teenager **** who was shouting and who unfortunately beat me as well. Luckily I couldn't hear him too much though, I knew he was talking **** from the muffles/screams coming from the tv speakers :D (had my headset unplugged)

I do hope my MadCatz controller arrives soon though, as well as needing the practice for fast combos I was getting spanked from not being able to pull off moves when I wanted too, and because of my own inexperience as well.

lettuce

19-02-2009, 06:15

My Amazon order has now changed to, 'Items dispatching soon'

Adge

19-02-2009, 06:22

My amazon order for PS3 ken pad is preparing for dispatch, hurahh, changing to next day hasn't hurt it and it should be with me tomorrow! Just need to game to arrive.. But that was shipped on Tuesday, so should be here today.

Sadly my 3 year old looks like he might have chicken pox, so that may scupper any SF IV action!

Adge

19-02-2009, 06:23

For those that asked for a on-line guide check out http://www.eventhubs.com/guides/2008/jul/08/street-fighter-4-strategy-guide-hints-and-tips/ for a complete list of moves.

Cool, I'll put that in the first post.

zantarous

19-02-2009, 07:18

I have 3 orders with Amazon.co.uk (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=8) and not a single one has any movement on it yet.

entrywound

19-02-2009, 07:35

My Game order for the game has shipped, no idea on my Madcatz controller though, but I should be able to play with my Hori stick in the meantime if the original 360 pad's as bad as it sounds.

Tom Whitaker

19-02-2009, 08:22

Amazon: Ryu pads (on which I recently changed the address) dispatching soon, no movement on my Ken pads (on which I didn't). One of the 2 Tournament Sticks is also dispatching soon, the other is not. I should start cancelling things but I'm sure I could always get rid of spares on here if I need to...

RDJ

19-02-2009, 09:06

My PS3 Ryu pad just turned up from Play. It's big and has a very solid, quality feel about it. Now to wait on the game from Amazon :)

Adge

19-02-2009, 09:17

HURAHHH! Well done gameplay, my collectors edition arrived... And in keeping with Ono's tradition of a gaming related purse in shot I've found my wife's (yes really) Tom Nook DS case.

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/7387/backci0.jpg

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2980/frontjm0.jpg

2nd shot a bit fuzzy...

Looks like my youngest doesn't have chicken pox after all, so some gaming time required asap.

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 09:30

The stick is here and it's awesome. pics don't do it much justice, but here's one anyway.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/MolGroover/testick.jpg

SF4 hasn't arrived yet but I've been playing on HD Remix for only a few minutes and already Cammy's hooligan throw on classic mode is easier to do. The clicky motions really help. Really can't wait to get stuck in to SF4

Tom Whitaker

19-02-2009, 09:40

I'm so glad mine's coming now - looks awesome :)

Why on earth did they go with a new character for the Special Edition figures, though? URGH.

sweetmate

19-02-2009, 09:45

Tried the game last night with a regular 360 pad (used the analog stick), great fun but spent 2 hours in vain trying to beat Seth on normal. Fight stick arrived at work today, lets hope it helps my play!!

tobiasboon

19-02-2009, 09:47

Played a few hours last night round at nsb's and was very impressed. Went through unlocking characters while he was raiding on WoW and only got Gouken and Seth left to do. Can't wait to get mine today. :)

Will certainly be up for some PSN action tonight and over the weekend. Also got tomorrow off to play it as well. :)

mr_woo

19-02-2009, 10:10

The stick is here and it's awesome. pics don't do it much justice, but here's one anyway.

SF4 hasn't arrived yet but I've been playing on HD Remix for only a few minutes and already Cammy's hooligan throw on classic mode is easier to do. The clicky motions really help. Really can't wait to get stuck in to SF4

Looks great :thumbs:

You better get practicing though boyo, gonna take more than a stick and big buttons to beat me :p

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 10:13

shut yer face.

anyways the game has arrived, and the Chun Li fight pad, so I'm all sorted, apart from Iron Bru and Doritos.

Have to say though, I do feel slightly ripped off by the CE edition. How they can justify an extra £30 for two tiny figures in a window box is beyond me, but like a fool (and they sure knew we would) I bought it. But I'm sure that'll wash over once I get stuck into the game.

oh and there's the film as well, but it's not even full length.

mr_woo

19-02-2009, 10:20

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 10:22

You get Viper and Ryu, looks just like the box Adge posted.

Adge

19-02-2009, 10:28

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y212/MolGroover/testick.jpg

Erm? Where is the gaming purse in your photo?

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 10:30

Adge

19-02-2009, 10:33

:(

Exactly, you've let the team down. Go and find one and amend your photo!

Deron

19-02-2009, 10:40

Feel free to send me 360 live friend requests...

I'll be on tonight.

And I apologise in advance for all the dragon punches.

;)

Bapapapa

19-02-2009, 11:09

Anyone tested their TE stick on the likes of Pacman CE yet..?

Wooglie

19-02-2009, 11:27

I've had shipping notices from amazon (pad) and sendit (game). Hopefully they will arrive on the same day. Gamertag is WooglieX if you want someone easy to beat on :thumbs:

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 11:38

The anime intros and endings are absolutely dreadful. Other than that this is prolly the best game in the universe

unrealnils

19-02-2009, 11:45

Oh god i got 2 more fightpads and a normal stick today :eek: thats one pad and one stick more then i need :lol: :(

Wooglie

19-02-2009, 11:49

:lol: I'm sure there will be people who haven't preordered who would like them.

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 11:57

I wish compaines would stop using that impossibly sealed packaging though. I'd place bets that people have injured themselves trying to get the pads out. Had to use a pair of scissors on the pad box myself - no harm done though :)

Adge

19-02-2009, 12:00

I hate that clamshell packaging, should be banned from stuff ordered online, plus kids toys screwed in and cable tied to within an inch of it's life. DRIVES ME MAD!!

waythem

19-02-2009, 12:04

Tom Whitaker

19-02-2009, 12:10

Powerplay just shipped me a PS3 TE, ordered when they first went up at £99. No movement on the 360 ones. I'd gladly swap my PS3 TE with anyone on here who ends up with a 360 one they don't want :)

brownboy

19-02-2009, 12:22

Any one watched the anime that comes with the CE version yet, if so any good?
Last two SF films were rerbish.. :)

tobiasboon

19-02-2009, 12:23

I just got this game yesterday and the online features don't seem to work at all? I have it on the PS3 and it's installed. I can see the rankings of people but when I try to create match it says FAILED. Also it NEVER can find ANY matches when I do quick match in RANKED or FRIENDLY games..

Anyone else having the same problem? I didn't think I'd need to wait till Friday when it's properly released in the UK as everyone in Japan and USA seems to be playing it online?

:?:

Add tobiasboon to your PSN friends list, I have my copy and will be up for trying some online games tonight once I unlock a few characters. nsb was complaining about the same problem, I'm guessing it's a lack of people with the game in the UK/EU.

Toge

19-02-2009, 12:31

Oh god i got 2 more fightpads and a normal stick today :eek: thats one pad and one stick more then i need :lol: :(

Mate i'll take the pad off you if you take a cheque?

jagox

19-02-2009, 12:40

SF IV received in post from GAME.co.uk \o/

No FightPad shipped yet though (2 on order from Play/Amazon)

Anyone who's also gimped with a 360 pad up for some games tonight? ;)

Drysolder

19-02-2009, 12:41

Just had a 5 min go on this in HMV with the normal 360 pad, and it was quite difficult to pull off anything other than the normal moves.

Deron

19-02-2009, 12:49

I'm interested to hear from SF pad users how easy it is to throw using light punch + light kick.

And how easy it is to use focus as well... medium punch + medium kick

Are they easy to pull off?

kenway

19-02-2009, 12:54

NNNNNNNooooooooo i've just got home and the postie has been. He's left me a form saying it needed to be signed for and i have to wait 48 hours before i can collect it. :brickwall:mad::cry:

tobiasboon

19-02-2009, 13:01

I'm interested to hear from SF pad users how easy it is to throw using light punch + light kick.

And how easy it is to use focus as well... medium punch + medium kick

Are they easy to pull off?

Do you mean people using the Street Fighter Madcatz pads or just Street Fighter players who use a pad? If the latter, the throwing is a bit weird at first, but since I've played a lot of Soul Calibur and Tekken, it became second nature after a while. I did try using the focus attacks (which are easy enough to pull off) but I've not found a huge use for them as yet and I have so far relegated the mediums to L1 and L2: reachable but not ideal (I moved 3xP and 3xK to R1 and R2 respectively for easier access to the ultras).

As time goes on I will not doubt integrate the focus attacks into my game so may revisit my button layout.

entrywound

19-02-2009, 13:12

My 360 version from Game has arrived, if anyone's around tonight from 9ish and fancies some easy wins, feel free to add me...

platty

19-02-2009, 13:26

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 13:32

Just has a god awful laggy match. I set it up and I thoguth it was searching priority connection. I could barely move the character, and lost horribly. If I try to find one I find players in the yellow and orange, utterly ridiculous.

Adge

19-02-2009, 13:49

:( well my left thumb is already knackered , playing this with a sixaxis on the ps3 using RYU and can i beat bloody seth :oh-hum: !!! what a pain in the arse , i;m playing on easy too , i'm just hoping that when my madcatz pad arrives it will make pulling off the combos a bit easier cause i aint done one yet :cry:, any tips on how to beat him :help:

This is a bit cheaty and I wouldn't normally endorse it as it's pointless really and you need to get better with practice and progress, but I know and feel your frustration!

http://www.joystiq.com/2009/02/13/unlock-every-street-fighter-iv-character-the-easy-way/

<div style="width:500px; text-align:center"><embed type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="500" height="319" src="http://gamevideos.1up.com/swf/gamevideos12.swf?embedded=1&fullscreen=1&autoplay=0&src=http://gamevideos.1up.com/do/videoListXML%3Fid%3D23678%26adPlay%3Dtrue" align="middle"></embed><a href="http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/23678" target="_blank">Street Fighter 4 'How to Unlock All the Characters' clip</a></div>

Stone Cold

19-02-2009, 15:15

Well my Chun-Li fightpad and SFIV game (for the 360) have now been despatched by Amazon.:clap:

Roll on tomorrow (hopefully)!!:D

platty

19-02-2009, 15:39

lettuce

19-02-2009, 16:00

Well my Chun-Li fightpad and SFIV game (for the 360) have now been despatched by Amazon.:clap:

Roll on tomorrow (hopefully)!!:D

Mine still says 'dispatching soon'

lettuce

19-02-2009, 16:11

Just had my sticks delivered from Play, the Fightstick comes with a nice moveset card...

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1454/dscf4311ix2.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8491/dscf4313ns0.jpg

And the Fightstick itself....
http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/1330/dscf4315xv2.jpg
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/8715/dscf4317re2.jpg

Just aswell my 360 TE stick didnt come.....

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6194/dscf4321zh6.jpg

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 16:17

Cheers Adge :thumbs: but like you say i have been practising and it is starting to payoff , i've just won my first online bout :clap: , i love this game you could spend HOURS just on the challenge mode unlocking all the titles and icons ...

The training challenge is pretty tough. I got to the third one and having trouble pulling off cammy's heavy punch into canon spike. Seems like a very small window to link into. Will go back to it later though.

And I think a lot of you are gonna hate Seth's guts. He really is a dreadful creation who pretty much ruins the single player experience. You have challenging matches with the other characters and get through them OK, and more importantly it's fun, but this guy is nuts - very frustrating.

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 16:26

Sucks that the SE stick gets a move list and the TE doesn't.

Can anyone tell me if their turbo buttons work? I presume the top left is meant to light up to show what level turbo you're on. nothing lights up on mine. Don't intend to use it for SF but shoot 'em ups.

waythem

19-02-2009, 16:42

so online works now.. still not many people online.. but if you play the arcade mode.. its hard to get through one match without someone challenging you.. which I think is great :)

Loving it so far.. but yes the PS3 pad isn't ideal as its hard to focus attack if you place the med kick punch buttons on the trigger pads like i do.. as i love my fierce attacks.. but not had cramp so far! :)

Got 600 BP too! haha... which I love.. trying to build as much as I can before more people come online on friday!

Tom Whitaker

19-02-2009, 16:48

I noticed on my move list - aren't the Ken super and ultra wrong? Shouldn't they be two shoryukens, not two hadokens?

Da Outsider

19-02-2009, 17:25

I'm almost a complete SF noob (never had a Nintendo back in the day) and terrible at fighting games but I'm finding the regular 360 pad not that bad. I've only played as Sagat & Ken so far but I could pull off their moves quite easily the majority of the time with both the d-pad and the analogue, I prefer the analogue stick though. Hopefully my fightpads will get here soon and prove me completely wrong. Looking at the pics of the TE stick I wish I'd gone for one of those now :luv: but probably a bit overkill for a beginner.

P.S. This is awesome. How has no-one said that yet? :lol: I looked like this: :D when I got my first Super Combo Finish. For anyone else that's a complete beginner Ken is your best friend :lol:

Marv

19-02-2009, 17:29

me and my mate both got out PS3 copys from play today, had a quick blast online after work good stuff. Need to learn some moves now.

GordonJ

19-02-2009, 17:50

Any one watched the anime that comes with the CE version yet, if so any good?
Last two SF films were rerbish.. :)

It's not too bad actually, better than Alpha Generations at least. I've seen some complaints about the lack of fights in it, but it has a decent plot (as far as street fighter goes) so I didn't mind the lack of fights.

Plus some C.Viper background story she's an undercover CIA agent

Dan

19-02-2009, 17:55

Amazon have dispatched my orders.

alphatyrant

19-02-2009, 18:16

If anyone has a spare 360 fightpad please lmk, I've stuck up a wanted thread.

lettuce

19-02-2009, 18:45

Yay!, my Amazon order has been dispatched too!!! Consisting of...

1x 360 T.E stick
2x 360 pads
2x PS3 pads
1x PS3 CE game
1x 360 CE game

I need my head looked at i think!!! :doh::dork:

Does this mean us Amazon people should get our stuff tomorrow, if we used first class??

Stone Cold

19-02-2009, 18:52

tobiasboon

19-02-2009, 19:20

Quick note for PS3 users, Street Fighter 4 features the option of custom soundtracks. Just press the PS button while the game is playing and you can play any music off your PS3 hard drive. I copied the Street Fighter Tribute album released a few years ago and I'm fighting to that soundtrack, it's pretty cool. Hopefully more games will use this method so it's more universal and acts more like the custom soundtrack on the 360.

Deron

19-02-2009, 19:29

I noticed on my move list - aren't the Ken super and ultra wrong? Shouldn't they be two shoryukens, not two hadokens?

Nope it's 2 Hadokens...

And very lovely when it comes off two.

I've got a nasty focus move that can result in a 19 hit combo when I hit it.

Jedibitch

19-02-2009, 19:46

Staggeringly good game BUT unplayable on anything but the TE stick for me, tried the normal 360 pad and a PS3 pad but the pain after a few rounds is shocking.

So get it, but get a stick as well otherwise you'll be crippled!

charlie angel

19-02-2009, 19:54

Been playing on the 360 pad this eve as my stick hasn't turned up - it's a piece of crap for this game & no mistake; can't rely on specials so it's all about footsies & throws at the moment.

Drysolder

19-02-2009, 20:01

Such a great game, SF as I remember it, but sucky sucky with just the standard joypad, will have to invest in a stick - what are the odds of any being available to buy in any store tomorrow?

Oh, and Abel is a cheap cheap ****! lol.

Adge

19-02-2009, 20:11

Amazing game, played arcade for a bit and unlocked Sakura and Gen, then turned on allow interuptions and played 10 ranked matches won 5 lost 5 so decided to quit whilst even. Stuck to a keep the pressure on game with Blanka, although I was trying to beat Seth in single player but was interrupted by real people (annoying it can happen mid fight as I had Seth beaten a few times only to be interrupted)... No lag at all on any of the matches (PS3 Version).

As a bit of a veteran I felt very held back by the ps3 pad, hitting about 80% of moves but when they botch it can cost me the match. Not mastered the Ultra's or supers yet, just getting my feel for it again, but loving it. It just feels perfect, hopefully new pad tomorrow will make those last few strands connect, if not I have my Hori stick (but I think I am better on the pad, I'm unbeatable on SF Alpha 2 on the Saturn and this pad looks similar).

unrealnils

19-02-2009, 20:14

TOGE

I dont do checks !!!!!!!

tobiasboon

19-02-2009, 20:23

So get it, but get a stick as well otherwise you'll be crippled!

Don't exaggerate. Many of us have been playing Street Fighter since the SNES days, through the Alpha's, EX's and various other iterations on the PS1 and PS2 and HD Remix on the PS3 and 360 and while the PS3 pad is far preferable to the 360 one for this kind of work, some people have even managed to use the analog stick on the 360 to a workable degree.

"Get a stick or you'll be crippled"? Ha! Spend another what, £70-120 on a stick for a game that costs £30-40?! Maybe you can't play it without an arcade stick but recommending people to spend in many cases more than double the cost of the game just to play it is ridiculous and simply untrue for the vast majority of us. Get some perspective man: yes, playing the game at a decent level on the 360 on the standard pad is probably an exercise in futility but the Madcatz pads are a great alternative by most accounts. The PS3 pad is more than usable for the game as is, although again the Madcatz pads are again a good alternative without having to resort to shelling out for a stick.

:cuckoo:

tobiasboon

19-02-2009, 20:25

budgenk

19-02-2009, 20:52

TOGE

I dont do checks !!!!!!!

Hey nils, I'll take it off you for any payment method you like? BT, paypal, even cash by special delivery?!!

scooby snacks

19-02-2009, 20:54

Are the sticks (both varieties) and the pads limited edition or will they reappear in stock some time in the future when Capcom/Madcatz produce more stock?

Theres some amusing prices for these items on ebay at the moment:lol:

monkeyWRENCH

19-02-2009, 20:59

I, like many I'm sure, didn't get round to pre-order the stick or the pad. Are they making anymore?

Ono

19-02-2009, 21:20

Erm, I just rechecked my TE order history at Powerplay Direct (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=70). I said that they had canclled my sticks but it seems they haven't and they are still both sitting on "Pre-order" at £97.99 each.

The cancellations I saw were ones I did when I was procratinating about buying them :nuts:

I'll leave them on there for a few weeks - but I already ordered one for £157 from Madcatz :( and have 2 SE sticks on order.

Couple that with the PS3 version of the game and 2 copies of the 360 version and I am looking at a cash outlay of:

2 x TE = £194
1 x TE = £157
2 x SE = £140
PS3 version = £35
2 x 360 version = £55

Total cash outlay = £581 :nuts:

zantarous

19-02-2009, 21:29

Very impressive spend there Ono for a game that you will play like twice. Are you looking to make a killing on eBay (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=44)?

lettuce

19-02-2009, 21:31

Ono, you make me feel better about my spending spree :p

jagox

19-02-2009, 21:32

I've been using the standard 360 analogue stick and I've managed to have some great matches with a mate over LIVE. It's not ideal but it's not _unplayable_ like some have said. The game is really forgiving with special moves, I was even able to pull off the annoying DB, DF, DB, UF motion for Vega's ultra.

Wouldn't like to go up against someone with a proper controller though ;)

Ono

19-02-2009, 21:32

Very impressive spend there Ono for a game that you will play like twice. Are you looking to make a killing on eBay (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=44)?

No, my PS3 version (bought for £35) is earmaked for a work colleague at £20.

My spare 360 version is going in the classifieds here when I get it.

If I get all the TE sticks - will flog the £157 one here for RRP and keep my 2 cheaper TEs (though I still doubt they will arrive)

The SE stick(s) will be kept as a spare MAME stick maybe :D

john316

19-02-2009, 21:36

Ono

19-02-2009, 21:42

I've just cancelled everything and bought the arcade machine.

Cheaper :|

zantarous

19-02-2009, 21:45

:lol: :notworthy :lol: http://darkzero.co.uk/game-news/street-fighter-iv-figures-recalled-due-to-breathtaking-typo/

scooby snacks

19-02-2009, 21:59

:lol: :notworthy :lol: http://darkzero.co.uk/game-news/street-fighter-iv-figures-recalled-due-to-breathtaking-typo/
:lol:

Deron

19-02-2009, 22:03

Just been playing with my trusty Hori stick I've had for a couple of years.

Guy comes on as Akuma whilst I'm Ken (I'm always Ken).

He keeps lobbing air bloody fireballs at me so everytime I see him jump, I dragon punch him out the sky...and top it off with an ultra to win.

2nd round he doesn't move then I get a message...checked the message...

"SPAM MUCH!"

He has 0 skill points...

Did I cheat or break some SF etiquette?

zantarous

19-02-2009, 22:08

You get folk like that ignore it there is no wrong or right way to play plus Akuma players are the worst of the bunch and you should enjoy every victory against them.

Moldiver

19-02-2009, 22:09

Obviously a hypocrite if he kept spamming fireballs. You know, it can be annoying when someone does the same move. Earlier a guy beat me using blanka. all he did was cannonballs and electric shocks. At the end of the day though if I can't defend against that I'm at fault and I chalk it down to a learning experpience and try to practice against that type of attack. People even moan if you corner them. It's not impossible to get out of of.

The TE stick really is the ********. I've adjusted to it amazingly well and have no trouble with any moves. Look forward to putting many many hours into this.

Deron

19-02-2009, 22:16

I know Ken isn't the best character, but God I love his Dragon punch...

Even his Ultra is easily blocked, but that means I've got to work that much harder to beat better characters.

Sagat is a sod, but I'm having to relearn all my tactics against him and I've done alright so far.

I'm just waiting to see what happens when I fight Gouken...not played him yet.

The404

19-02-2009, 22:16

:lol: :notworthy :lol: http://darkzero.co.uk/game-news/street-fighter-iv-figures-recalled-due-to-breathtaking-typo/

I was looking at it and couldn't spot what was so funny, and then I saw it and have been sniggering constantly for the last 2 minutes. This game really has de-evolved me back to a teenager! :lol:

Morton

19-02-2009, 23:01

God I hate this game! :lol: I knew I wasn't great but this is mental.

I've just been learning all of Ken's moves, been through the training and challenges etc... for my first two fights I was doing well, getting most of the big moves out. But it just doesn't matter, every time I get to C.Viper I'm screwed.

Virtually every move/combo I do she either blocks or gets me with the flaming legs, the electric bolt and that damn earthquake move. If I do get a groove going she takes the damage, and finishes me off with a Hyper move.

And is it normal for them to knock you down, imediately stand over you until you get up and then pummel you straight back down within a half second? I thought there used to be a momentary delay before they can start attacking again.

Zangief is a beauty, he did the same spinny-up-in-the-air-then-sit-on-my-head move 4 times in a row!! As soon as my character stood up, he did it again, and again, and again. Blocking didn't work and I couldn't get away or any moves! This is all on Medium! :?: I guess I have to hang my head and drop to the easy level.

lettuce

19-02-2009, 23:19

earl_roberts2002

19-02-2009, 23:46

Was gonna ask how the difficulty was on this, on SSIIHD the normal setting kicked my ass once I got near Sagat or Bison, is this on easier or harder than the remix in general?

pythons

20-02-2009, 00:11

I got home about an hour ago and my copy was waiting for me. My fight pad hasn't arrived yet so I've just had a go with the Xbox pad and... I HATED it.

The pad is so unreliable/imprecise that I end up jumping instead of dragon punching/fireballing half of the time. For this reason I was really stuck against a CPU controlled Honda as he was using the same technique over and over again.

So far the game seems quite tough to me, even on standard difficulty (three stars?) but I guess I'll be in a better position to comment when I have played with another pad. Either way I'm sure I was much better as a kid, I seem to keep getting smothered at the moment.

I was just having a play through and went through about six or seven characters, first had some trouble with Balrog, then Honda, then as I was getting close to beating Honda my batteries went and before I could replace them I was beaten and the ten second counter ended my game for me. Grrrrrr. :mad::razz:

I need to get up to speed with the focus attacks etc as I was using them willy-nilly. The game looks really nice though and its well presented, but I'm not sure I care about the animated movies that keep appearing.

Oh and that sodding menu music is stuck in my head, I'm off to bed now singing "in-deee-stuctable". :oh-hum:

Amazon emailed me this evening to let me know my pad has been shipped so I'm kind of hoping to have it over the weekend if possible.

If anyone wants some games then please feel free to add me if you haven't already, currently I'm playing horribly though, I'm kind of hoping that the fight pad will go some way towards helping with that. :help:

Mark

splobber

20-02-2009, 00:35

I'm getting fed up with this already as it is stupidly hard against the CPU, who seems to be able to pull out every combo and special move and canes you in seconds while you do deaconism on the pad.

G@vnor

20-02-2009, 00:45

I'm getting fed up with this already as it is stupidly hard against the CPU, who seems to be able to pull out every combo and special move and canes you in seconds while you do deaconism on the pad.

Heh, and you played SF2 in the 90's too didn't you?

You should have seen snoddy back in the day ;)

anyhoo, I've been playing this for the past day and reckon there's a hell of a lot of people out there that are possibly playing SF for the first time - it's not Soul calibur and all about specials , the light and medium switches are what it's all about for me. You can really ruin someone's rythym (especially CPU) by alternating the power / speed.

(Ryu / Honda)

mr_woo

20-02-2009, 01:05

No championship mode on launch day (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2009/feb/19/championship-mode-expansion-update-no-timeframe-spectators/)

When will the Championship mode expansion pack be released for Street Fighter IV? I thought it was supposed to be available at launch?

Sven: Championship mode was never planned for launch. The whole purpose of that pack is that they were features we wanted to have the whole community have access to but didn't have time in the base development schedule to complete.

So now, it's time to complete those features, which is what the team has been working on since original submission was approved in January (that and the PC Sku).

Why is there no spectator support in SFIV?

Sven: I'll better be able to address this in a few weeks... can't say more than that right now.

For now, the team is focused on the PC SKU and the Championship update. Beyond that, I can't comment. I will say Spectator modes/lobbies not part of either of those pieces of content.

What difference does it make which country owns the rights to Street Fighter and Final Fight? — del.icio.us

Sven: It has pretty massive ramifications on financial issues (specifically who pays for and who profits or loses from the use of said IP... be it in new games or licensing, etc.).

It also has issues over who has creative control of the property (e.g. who decides to do what products, what form they take.) So for example, in SFIV, that project was completely funded and initiated by Capcom USA. Capcom USA opted to engage Capcom Japan to run the development of the project. We had to approve all proposed direction and milestones. Etc.

For consumers, I don't suspect it makes much difference in the end result.

chris21

20-02-2009, 02:20

Is there a time and a place for light/medium attacks? In the older games heavy attacks, throws, and specials were pretty much all that was needed.

lettuce

20-02-2009, 06:19

Errr, whats this Championship mode content?, you can already play as the bosses cant you??

Deron

20-02-2009, 06:58

Is there a time and a place for light/medium attacks? In the older games heavy attacks, throws, and specials were pretty much all that was needed.

Yep still a place for light/medium attacks as they will beat harder attacks in speed and can launch you into an attack or force someone to block which can then open them to the throw.

charlie angel

20-02-2009, 07:04

Is there a time and a place for light/medium attacks? In the older games heavy attacks, throws, and specials were pretty much all that was needed.

Light/mediums are essential for links & combos; definitely worthwhile incorporating them into your game so you can mix it all up.

Did I cheat or break some SF etiquette?

Certainly not - only really good Akuma players use anything but the most basic tactics, so more power to you I think :)

platty

20-02-2009, 07:35

well i've fired this up this morning on the ps3 , and there is a little update for it , anyone know what for ?

pythons

20-02-2009, 08:09

As I was heading out of the door this morning the postman was just bringing me a box from Amazon. I opened it up quickly and it was my Ken fight pad.

On initial inspection pad looks good to me, the d-pad feels large and precise. The gamepad feels comfortable to hold, I was a bit worried from some of the pictures beforehand that it might be a bit large and cumbersome, but it actually feels quite ergonomic.

I'm looking forward to actually trying it now, sadly I have to go out this evening straight after work. It's always the way when a game I'm actually looking forward to arrives! :dork::)

Mark

GoblinUK

20-02-2009, 08:46

I have a SE stick and a TE stick waiting for me when i get home. Financially I should keep the SE stick, I think i may end up keeping the TE stick.

Moldiver

20-02-2009, 09:22

No championship mode on launch day (http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2009/feb/19/championship-mode-expansion-update-no-timeframe-spectators/)

That answer couldn't be any more ambiguous. What a load of rubbish.

scooby snacks

20-02-2009, 09:52

Will the pads be available to buy (not at inflated ebay prices) anytime in the future?

Moldiver

20-02-2009, 10:59

Watched the anime today, though it was pretty good actually. Not much in the way of fights and the story is a tad silly, but it's told well enough as it shows how some characters have moved on since the old tourny days. Worth watchign it before playing the game so you get at least some idea of a few new characters.

Dan

20-02-2009, 11:08

Stuff arrived from Amazon today, will have a go later.

Moldiver

20-02-2009, 11:11

Those with the CE, don't forget you can download the brawler pack costume today. There's a code on the back of the mini guide that comes in special package box.

tobiasboon

20-02-2009, 11:56

Any PSN users available today for some matches? Booked the day off and I'm fighting a lot of French people who keep quitting after getting whooped a few times.

Add tobiasboon and hit me up! :)

entrywound

20-02-2009, 11:59

I too had a go on this last night, loved every moment (apart from fighting Seth - incredibly hard with ridiculous powers and special moves). Played it using my HORI arcade stick and was able to pull off most moves I wanted playing as Ryu or Ken (the only characters I used). Went on Live expecting to have my ass handed to me on a plate, but surprisingly managed to win all three of the online bouts I participated in, right result! I couldn't find any players to fight with green connection bars, but had no problems with any lag in the fights I did have. Great fun!

stompontheplebs

20-02-2009, 11:59

Will the pads be available to buy (not at inflated ebay prices) anytime in the future?

They'd be mad not to make some more of these available considering the demand, yet somehow I still doubt it. I don't think anyone knows for sure at this point.

I'm not even bothering to buy this game until I've got a fightpad/stick! Totally missed the boat with all of these.

budgenk

20-02-2009, 12:03

Hmm, already bought the 360 game, but have managed to get local shop to hold their last PS3 stick for me at 69.99, so I'll have to buy the game again, am I really gonna spend all this cash? I guess if I don't get on with it I should be able to shift it for little loss...

Unless nils helps me out of course!

Adge

20-02-2009, 12:04

I don't like the madcatz pad, it's got a far too wobbly d-pad making it hard to pull off a lot of the moves, it's not that much different than the PS3 pad, so I'm sending it back.

I'm back on my Hori stick, and winning more often with it. Getting some great online matches with no lag at all, loosing to a lot of Akuma's who just do fireball after fireball and was playing Balrog for a while who struggles against a barrage of projectiles in the corner, pulled off a few awesome ultra resversals turning the match around at the last second.

Awesome awesome game, but not such an awesome pad. I was hoping for it to be like the saturn pad, but it's not really.

chris21

20-02-2009, 12:12

Arrived this morning.

Good game, but after playing DOA 4 it seems a bit basic.

For example, with Ryu I find there's nothing that a jumping heavy kick followed by a heavy sweep can't fix. With an occasional fireball and dragon punch thrown in. This was fine back in the day, but...

And how the hell do you throw? It certainly isn't how the move list describes it. I get close and push towards and heavy punch and I er, punch.

Oh, and are the ultra combo's all three punch buttons, or punch three times? Either way can't do them with the normal pad.

Adge

20-02-2009, 12:14

LP+LK - Throw
MP+MK - Focus
HP+HP - Taunt

chris21

20-02-2009, 12:17

Does anyone else struggle to think of varied moves so you don't appear cheap? There only seems to be four or five required. I have to make myself tap light punch now and again.

The404

20-02-2009, 12:33

Well Sendit confounded expectations and actually sent me the game for launch day. I assumed that as they'd posted it from the Channel Islands late Wednesday I'd be lucky to get it on Monday, but nope - here it is.

Now, do I play it with the terrible 360 pad or wait until Tuesday/Wednesday for my TE stick from Gameshark? Hmmmmm.

mr_woo

20-02-2009, 12:38

Awesome awesome game, but not such an awesome pad. I was hoping for it to be like the saturn pad, but it's not really.

You can buy actual usb saturn pads off ebay for a pretty good price if that's what you'd prefer to use.

I was looking at them but typically they don't work with the 360 but do work with the PS3 :)

Da Outsider

20-02-2009, 12:55

Oh, and are the ultra combo's all three punch buttons, or punch three times? Either way can't do them with the normal pad.

All three. On the 360 pad:

Left Shoulder Button = HP+MP+LP
Left Trigger = HK+MK+LK

Adge

20-02-2009, 12:57

You can buy actual usb saturn pads off ebay for a pretty good price if that's what you'd prefer to use.

I was looking at them but typically they don't work with the 360 but do work with the PS3 :)

Ohhh, I did not know that... Might have a look at those, but for now my Hori stick is doing well, the only move I struggle with is the double fireball move for Ryu's Ultra's and Supers, I think it's timing rather than hitting the right points as it's hit and miss is I pull it off.

sweetmate

20-02-2009, 12:58

oops Outsider beat me to it

chris21

20-02-2009, 13:12

All three. On the 360 pad:

Left Shoulder Button = HP+MP+LP
Left Trigger = HK+MK+LK

Excellent. Thanks mate:)

unrealnils

20-02-2009, 13:17

Some good games online with Mol, i didnt really have time to take in the new moves i just installed game to hard disk then went stright online, trsuty sf2 moves surved me well :D

Im really liking this so far with the fight pad, scared to try the fight stick out :eek:

Kev what were you using the TE stick :notworthy ?

Moldiver

20-02-2009, 13:29

Yea I was, close games there, but I had to pull Cammy out at the end to come back :D

charlie angel

20-02-2009, 13:32

If you chaps want to add me on Live, then Hurry Up Harry is my tag :)

unrealnils

20-02-2009, 13:32

dragon punches are flawless with the fightpad, something which could not be said of the 360 pad ......

Very happy i bought a fight pad

budgenk

20-02-2009, 13:54

Hey nils, did you see me asking if you still had the spare pad available? Can pay by any method you like, and happy to negotiate.... ?

carlito8

20-02-2009, 13:58

Just got my shipping notification through for my amazon fightpad, glad about that as the brief go I had on the standard controller last night was pretty frustrating, I can finally get into HD remix now as well :)

Robby

20-02-2009, 14:12

Just played this round a mates and was more than impressed, so much so I went out and got my own copy. Even with the crappy 360 pad I managed to pull off a few decent moves, i'd still like a fight pad at some stage but for the time being I think i can enjoy this game with the basic pad.

It's been a long time since i've bought a beat em up and this game still has that SF magic.

Out for Justice

20-02-2009, 14:30

I'm holding out for Tekken :razz:

Dan

20-02-2009, 14:40

Wow this is pretty awesome, though my hand is hurting already.

LouBarlow

20-02-2009, 14:46

Get back to SF4 then.

Adge

20-02-2009, 14:47

I hate fireball spammers, fought about 5 in a row earlier, grrrr, I hope they all get carpal tunnel syndrome! I like to have a bit of flair to the match!!

Julesy

20-02-2009, 14:49

My CE on the PS3 arrived yesterday so put in a few hours. I'm loving it so far - still got that classic SF2 feel but the new characters, focus attack and EX moves add some nice complexity.

I need to get a fightpad though. I'm too hit and miss with the dualshock (still managed to get to the 5th trial for Ryu though). I'm just watching some vids of Daigo on YouTube right now in order to pick up some good combos and strategies :dork:

lettuce

20-02-2009, 14:55

Defo gone over the top.....

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3415/dscf4323kl1.jpg

:doh::doh:

Toge

20-02-2009, 14:55

Dan

20-02-2009, 15:04

Are you gonna use any of that lettuce or is it for display purposes?

lettuce

20-02-2009, 15:08

Nah its all going in a vacumed sealed room never to be used!! Yeah i will just need to decide what to keep and what to sell now. Didnt think that all my pre-orders would come through.......but they did

Julesy

20-02-2009, 15:13

lettuce, if you've got a spare PS3 fightpad, I'll gladly take it off your hands :luv:

Adge

20-02-2009, 15:20

Defo gone over the top.....

http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/3415/dscf4323kl1.jpg

AGAIN!! NO GAMING PURSE!! Sort it out lettuce!

lettuce

20-02-2009, 15:28

Sorry man, all ive got to a plane white DS airfoam case :(

chris21

20-02-2009, 16:33

Loving this now. Ignore my earlier whinge;)

Can do the ultra moves every time now:) My only concern is that my fight pad is in the post and I'm doing fine with the 360 controller!

RichB

20-02-2009, 16:47

Ok guys help me out with the dragon punch.. please!

its right/vertical down/right?

I can't pull it off for love or money, it always performs the haduken!

What am I doing wrong?

budgenk

20-02-2009, 17:04

Ok guys help me out with the dragon punch.. please!

its right/vertical down/right?

I can't pull it off for love or money, it always performs the haduken!

What am I doing wrong?

It's right, vertical down, right/down and press punch at the end of the sequence

can take some getting used to but you'll get there!

unrealnils

20-02-2009, 17:06

its right , then down then down right ....

think walk forwards then do a 1/2 fireball motion

Idle Child

20-02-2009, 17:06

Lettuce, that's an awesome haul. :D

I shall post up my pics of SF related goodies when I get a chance later in the week - doesn't quite match your haul, but it's impressive for me all the same. .

Spinning Plates

20-02-2009, 17:12

Anyone received there Fightpad from Amazon?

I have an estimated delivery of Feb 25-26 of which I'm a little worried they won't come through with.

zantarous

20-02-2009, 17:37

its right , then down then down right ....

think walk forwards then do a 1/2 fireball motion

You can also use the short cut DF DF, there are quite a few of these in the game, works in Street Fighter 3 as well which i didn't know.

Anyone received there Fightpad from Amazon?

I have an estimated delivery of Feb 25-26 of which I'm a little worried they won't come through with.

I have three pads on order with them and all are listed with a estimated dispatch date of 19th which has come and gone and no movement on my order.

RichB

20-02-2009, 17:41

Wow just played arcade mode.. on easy
Game uninstalled and put back in box for trade tomorrow!

Totally unplayable for me, think I'll stick to the HD remix

stompontheplebs

20-02-2009, 17:43

I caved in and bought the game with no fightstick or fightpad - although there was a TE stick for £150 in my local Gamestation....took one hell of a lot of willpower to resist! I would've gone for a regular stick at £100, but £150 is where I draw the line.

It's a ******* awesome game though, I've only played it for an hour using a regular 360 controller and it's already exceeded my expectations!! & shockingly enough I can pull off dragon punches and hadouken's almost every time (only played as Ryu so far) - the 360 pad is far, FAR from ideal but it doesn't render the game unplayable as I thought it might.

RichB

20-02-2009, 17:44

I disagree lol

alphatyrant

20-02-2009, 17:50

lettuce, if you've got a spare PS3 fightpad, I'll gladly take it off your hands :luv:

Likewise for the 360, the ridiculous prices they're going for on you-know-where are..well, ridiculous.

Adge

20-02-2009, 18:03

Ok guys help me out with the dragon punch.. please!

its right/vertical down/right?

I can't pull it off for love or money, it always performs the haduken!

What am I doing wrong?

No, it's towards, down, towards-down+punch it's a bit of an art at first but once you get used to it it's second nature.

Maybe worth doing the trials in challenge mode to get used to the moves, I've been doing them some of the new characters to see how they work.

Dan

20-02-2009, 18:09

Guy in work who's a SF nut just beat me 16 times in a row. :(

RichB

20-02-2009, 18:13

Can someone tell me why the booklet shows

--
/
-- + punch

then!?

The game is unplayable enough without giving players the wrong moves!

ickle yoda1

20-02-2009, 18:15

Well..my shopto order of the game came on Wednesday and my GAME order of the game, the guide, the Tournament stick and the SE stick all came yesterday so well done to those suppliers :thumbs:

I went to work yesterday and my package tracking said the sticks were out for delivery. At 11am they were signed for by my neighbour. I work on flexi time so I left early, I left at 2pm, got home all excited to find my neighbour was out lol. Finally he came home and I got the sticks at 8pm. The tournament stick is mine and the other stick was for a mates birthday. I have only tried the TE stick but I love it, glad I finally got it :thumbs:

Some pics of the geekiness of it all!

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb318/David_Laing/P2191103.jpg

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb318/David_Laing/P2191107.jpg

msm13579

20-02-2009, 18:17

not such an awesome pad. I was hoping for it to be like the saturn pad, but it's not really.

i was really hoping it would be more like a saturn pad too :( but i'm actually finding it better than a saturn pad for streetfighter, (used a saturn pad on my mate's ps3 version), but still wish it was more like a saturn pad as i mainly wanted it for 2d shooters.

RichB

20-02-2009, 18:18

But its rubbish :)

Da Outsider

20-02-2009, 18:23

The game is unplayable enough without giving players the wrong moves!

How is it unplayable?

I'm crap at these games but using the 360 analogue i can pull off the move i want to 9 times out of 10. My fightpad was delivered from Amazon this morning and after about an hour of playing SFIV & HD Remix I actually find the 360 pad easier to use.

:shrug:

sirp

20-02-2009, 18:25

Can someone tell me why the booklet shows

--
/
-- + punch

then!?

The game is unplayable enough without giving players the wrong moves!

why is this game unplayable? ive only got the 360 pad, and that feels fine as a gaming device to me. Ive not used a stick, but i doubt that will make a big difference to someone who isnt wanting to spend most their life on this game. I've never read so much fuss over one game, and joysticks ever, its bonkers.

internetuser

20-02-2009, 18:33

Thank you for your recent order for Street Fighter IV Premium Xbox 360 FightStick Arcade Controller - Tournament Edition

We have experienced extremely high demand for this product and as a result all of our initial allocation has been sold. Whilst we can confirm that we will be receiving more stock and all outstanding orders will be filled, we are unlikely to receive our next allocation until June. Please be assured that you have not been charged and your order will remain active unless you choose to cancel it.

Please accept our sincere apologies for any inconvenience and disappointment caused.

Kind Regards

Play.com

sirp

20-02-2009, 18:36

June , lmao

punisher46

20-02-2009, 18:48

my amazon order of pad and sf4 for ps3 has been shipped

LouBarlow

20-02-2009, 18:55

Well at least we know why the initial stocks are so low. lettuce has cleaned them out :nuts:

vaderag

20-02-2009, 19:05

omega man

20-02-2009, 19:06

How is it unplayable?

I'm crap at these games but using the 360 analogue i can pull off the move i want to 9 times out of 10. My fightpad was delivered from Amazon this morning and after about an hour of playing SFIV & HD Remix I actually find the 360 pad easier to use.

:shrug:

Finding the xbox 360 pad easy to use i can pull off all the moves using the dpad around 90% of the time...

tobiasboon

20-02-2009, 19:15

Man, this game is hard... can somebody give me some help:

1) Charge moves - how long do you need to charge them for? (e.g Sonic Boom with Guile)
2) How on earth do I do a revenge move?! I've tried so many times with so many characters and it just wont work! For example, i can do chun-li's special (very infrequently), but her revenge requires three kicks at the end instead of one, and i cannot under any circumstances get this to work!
3) How do i block it when someone starts to do a revenge move - doesnt seem what i do, it wont block!

Thanks in advance

1) Hold away (for Guile's Sonic Boom) or down (for Guile's Flashkick) for 1.5-2 seconds. Those are the charges. In Guile's case, holding diagonally away and down will charge both moves.

2) Revenge moves are easiest to do when you use the LP+MK+HK bind. It means all 3 punches (or kicks) together, not to tap punch or kick 3 times at the end of the movement.

3) During the ultra start up where the camera zooms in there isn't really much of a window to do anything, consider it a dramatic pause for effect more than anything. :)

vaderag

20-02-2009, 19:24

1) Hold away (for Guile's Sonic Boom) or down (for Guile's Flashkick) for 1.5-2 seconds. Those are the charges. In Guile's case, holding diagonally away and down will charge both moves.

2) Revenge moves are easiest to do when you use the LP+MK+HK bind. It means all 3 punches (or kicks) together, not to tap punch or kick 3 times at the end of the movement.

3) During the ultra start up where the camera zooms in there isn't really much of a window to do anything, consider it a dramatic pause for effect more than anything. :)

1) Cheers
2) OMG - that makes so much more sense! Feel like an idiot now!
3) harsh - those moves absolutely nail you!

Guess it's just a case of practice (and finding the character i'm best with). I'm finding even easiest difficulty a bit of a challenge at times at the moment (especially when it comes to Seth)

Adge

20-02-2009, 19:52

Can someone tell me why the booklet shows

--
/
-- + punch

then!?

The game is unplayable enough without giving players the wrong moves!

That's the trajectory your finger takes, it's a good way to explain it.

Starting from the centre position:

-- = push forward (finger east)
/ = diagonally down and away (finger now south) to be bottom of the pad
-- + punch = forward again (finger now south east) and hit a punch button (or 2 for an EX move (but I'm getting ahead of myself here))

I know it seems hard, feel for us old school players who had to work it out from the SNES manual with no internet to assist.

The404

20-02-2009, 19:54

Decided not to wait until the TE stick turned up and have been playing it with the 360 pad. While the pad is not perfect, It's certainly playable and the game is a lot more forgiving than Street Fighter 2 HD on XBLA.

Not dared onto live yet though. Might need some more practice before I try that.

Deron

20-02-2009, 20:23

You can block ultra combos as well...

Just pull back and pray...

I've also dragon punched Ryu as he was doing his one...but you can jump over it as well.

Akuma's is a sod...not worked that out yet.

nsb

20-02-2009, 20:38

Akuma's is a sod...not worked that out yet.

You can jump that one pretty easily too.

tobiasboon

20-02-2009, 20:44

Akuma's is a sod...not worked that out yet.
Projectiles will usually work outside the few frames of invincibility, I've managed to counter it a few times online today using EX Sonic Booms, but I guess any projectile should work. Or just jump over the bugger. :)

EDIT: love it when people quit out of some good games cos they're losing...

http://i643.photobucket.com/albums/uu157/tobiasboon/ziggysaysquit.jpg

Isn't that right nsb...? :wave:

vaderag

20-02-2009, 20:54

Ive never won a ranked game on Live. Played at least 10 :(
Won an unranked one...

I'm really rubbish!

Is there any way to choose who you play with on Live? (i.e. friends list)

Matt_Bro14

20-02-2009, 21:08

GoblinUK

20-02-2009, 21:08

Great, my blooming fightstick doesnt recognise left. Bloody brilliant.

Quint

20-02-2009, 21:26

scooby snacks

20-02-2009, 21:29

Is there any difference between Ken and Ryu? I remember playing a lot of SF2 in the arcades during the early 90's and never really noticed any difference, even though I usually picked Ken. When I got SF2 on the Megadrive, the only difference I noticed (or imagined) was there dragon punch was slightly different:shrug:

Questor

20-02-2009, 21:47

In Alpha IIRC Ryu's hurricane kick only hit once, and Ken's hit several times (or something like that)
They are very similar, it's just a few subtle differences

alphatyrant

20-02-2009, 22:06

Mostly Ryu's Specials are knockdowns with more damage, Ken's generally hit more times but do less damage, though better for combos.

scooby snacks

20-02-2009, 22:40

Ah, I remember Ryu's hurricane kick knocked down on the first unblocked hit. Didn't realise the damage vs combo difference. Thanks chaps:thumbs:

Idle Child

20-02-2009, 22:46

Just wanted to chime in and say I love the game. However, what isn't so hot for me (perhaps due to my poor 2meg connection) is the online side of things for the PS3. I don't see many matches to choose from in the list, and when I do, most bars are empty, with occassional orange 3 bar strength - and rarer still I might be lucky to find a yellow 4 bars. But connecting to those games quickly enough is a pain as usually someone beats me to it. Yellow 4 bar makes for a decent match though. Haven't yet seen a green 5 bar - do they exist?

http://i211.photobucket.com/albums/bb318/David_Laing/P2191107.jpg

Cool pic. I see that's a Prima Strategy guide in the middle - is it the US or UK print? I have the UK one on order.

Anyone received there Fightpad from Amazon?

I have an estimated delivery of Feb 25-26 of which I'm a little worried they won't come through with.
I received my Chun Li 360 fightpad today from Amazon.

mr_woo

20-02-2009, 22:55

I received my Chun Li 360 fightpad today from Amazon.

Same here, seems like a decent pad, just need to get used to it now after using the 360 stick for ages!

zantarous

20-02-2009, 23:34

Just spent a few hours on this and have to say I love it it is all that I hoped it would be and more. If there is any criticisms is that the moves are way to easy to pull of and you end up doing canceling normals into specials without even trying which takes some of the skill away. Even with a 360 pad.

The only reason i put it of was because I have been up since 6 am and want to get up early to go collect my TE stick from the City Link depot in the morning.

Can the OP start collating peoples tags on the first post and sort them via PSN and Live?

chenman

20-02-2009, 23:34

Well im doing well on mastering sagat and trying to bump my battlepoints up :)

Must say though im sick of fighting ken, ryu and akuma. does anyone ever choose different characters! bloody ken users just spam flaming dragon punch :razz:

Same here, out of my 40 odd matches, at least 30 of them have been ken's. People really need to start using other characters. Dont think i have come across anyone using any of the new characters.

Tom Whitaker

21-02-2009, 00:10

3) During the ultra start up where the camera zooms in there isn't really much of a window to do anything, consider it a dramatic pause for effect more than anything. :)I disagree - there's plenty of time to block unless you're mid-move or jump. Kind of makes up for how easy they are to pull off though - to really use them you need to drop them into combos.

Morton

21-02-2009, 01:20

Help! Help! Help! :lol:

1) I know that to get up quickly from a knockdown you push down on the d-pad before you hit the ground. But if you miss it and have to get up at normal speed - how do you defend against the opponent when they just stand over you and clobber you the micro second you get stand up???

2) If both characters attempt an aerial attack and one loses. How does the loser execute a move, an Ultra combo for example, in the time between when you get hit and when you land on the ground?

Or is this feat only available to the AI?

chris21

21-02-2009, 02:23

Anyone else going to try and master the "focus attack, dash cancel"?

http://thirdworldgamer.blogspot.com/2009/02/street-fighter-iv-focus-attack-dash.html

Just been reading about them (up feeding baby!). Itching to go and try it out, but my 360 is in the bedroom and I don't think my missus would be too thrilled.

Idle Child

21-02-2009, 03:28

Newer IGN vid on focus cancelling:
http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/14211549/street-fighter-iv/videos/ignstrategize_SFIV_021809.html

Adge

21-02-2009, 08:16

It's such a multi-layered work of genius.

It doesn't rely on overtly complex movesets to remember, all the tools are at your disposal up front and it's how you cleverly use them, you can rely on timing with focus attacks anticipating the first strike and then responding or pile in with the pressure on changing tempo from light to heavy attacks, or something completely of your own making. There are so many ways to play creatively.

The new characters are very interesting Abel and El Fuerte having moves that can twist mid flow building alongside the existing foundations of the Charge and Shoto characters.

That's why it frustrating online to face Ken or Akuma over and over again doing fireball after fireball after fireball. I find the creative expression of playing more fun than playing in a repetitive way repeatedly to chase down the win.

charlie angel

21-02-2009, 08:21

Is there any way to choose who you play with on Live? (i.e. friends list)

If you create a match (I think it's the custom option) you get the option to send an invite to people on your friends list.

Talking of new characters, I played someone who was using a tasty Abel last night (a nice break from playing Ken anyway) - gave me a good working over.

Wooglie

21-02-2009, 08:28

Man, Seth is a git. Managed to get through Arcade mode with Ryu on 'Very Easy'. Oh the shame. At least its not the easiest level. Trying it now with Ken and just cannot beat Seth. Easy in first round, then he goes all power crazy. Stand near him and he'll do spinning drop everytime and then that ridiculous move where he sucks you into his belly. Takes ages to watch and just cannot avoid it as far as I can see :(

Seth = Evil Dr Manhatten

I tried for ages with Chun Li and Ryu last night to beat Seth (Easy I think, the one below Medium) and it's stupidly hard. Eventually beat him with Ryu, but felt more like a fluke than I'd actually worked it out.

tobiasboon

21-02-2009, 08:37

I disagree - there's plenty of time to block unless you're mid-move or jump. Kind of makes up for how easy they are to pull off though - to really use them you need to drop them into combos.

There is pretty much the same amount of time to hold block as there would be in normal game play assuming you're neutral and as you say not mid move. That is what I mean when I say there isn't much time to do anything, time in effect stops during that pause but it doesn't stop you readying block if you can as you would in normal gameplay (I didn't word it very well). Some of them are very tough to combo, I tend to use some of the ultras to punish on block an attack, Dan's for example. You can be ready to input your own ultra during the pause though and treat it like a knock down, finishing the move on the first frame time unpauses although it's a little fuzzy on what overrides what.

2000+ Battle Points now! Not running into much decent competition though and I'm only getting a few points each win. Mainly playing with Guile, followed by Sagat and then Ken but so many damn Ken's online, I feel as though I shouldn't main him and he's been my main for 15 years. :(

Great game though! :D

PSN ID tobiasboon, add me for games!

punisher46

21-02-2009, 09:03

typical, postmans been with my game and pad while ive been out and cant collect for at least 24 hours, grrr.....

stompontheplebs

21-02-2009, 09:06

Just got myself a TE from Gamestation :D When I get bored of the game I'll probably still be able to sell it for more than I payed, so it's all good

Deron

21-02-2009, 09:32

I love playing as Ken because he's a flashy git...

But online most games just degenerate into who can chuck out their moves the quickest.

It's not hard to dodge a dragon punch as you can just block it and nail them on their way down.

And you can dodge fireballs pretty easily...and it's easy to hit someone easily enough if they keep throwing them.

I have my live set to play people with a higher ranking than me and get a lot of differing characters like Sagat, Cammy and Blanka.

But my problem is I can't be arsed to fight Seth time and time again to unlock any characters...

I really want to play as Gouken, but unlocking the characters seems soul destroying.

vaderag

21-02-2009, 09:43

But my problem is I can't be arsed to fight Seth time and time again to unlock any characters...

I really want to play as Gouken, but unlocking the characters seems soul destroying.

It is... I'm doing it now...
And not only that, it's really hard! On the bright side it is giving me an opportunity to try different characters, and managed to win my first live game with Zangief (all be it i was a bit move-spammy, which i HATE)

Deron

21-02-2009, 09:44

I can see the word spam is going to be used a lot in this thread...

;)

Adge

21-02-2009, 09:49

If anyone is interested in selling a stick for the PS3 I would be interested. Probably the cheaper one.... But I'm open to offers.

charlie angel

21-02-2009, 09:50

It is... I'm doing it now...
And not only that, it's really hard! On the bright side it is giving me an opportunity to try different characters, and managed to win my first live game with Zangief (all be it i was a bit move-spammy, which i HATE)

Don't worry about spamming anything - I try & adapt my game to every opponent, looking for attacks that they can't deal with. If you're opponent can't cope with you 'spamming' a move, more fool them.

zantarous

21-02-2009, 09:55

Been trying out my TE stick this morning and it is fantastic, really responsive and well built. if anyone is in two minds about getting one get it it is a superb bit of kit.

Moldiver

21-02-2009, 10:00

If anyone's up for sparring let me know. My tag is Mol KG. But I'd be up for a mix of proper figts and practicing, as I'm trying to adjust to focus attacks, so if anyone else wants to have a bit of a play setting up moves etc feel free to add.

Barny79

21-02-2009, 10:05

typical, postmans been with my game and pad while ive been out and cant collect for at least 24 hours, grrr.....

Give your local office a call it may have been returned by now

lettuce

21-02-2009, 10:28

Man, why is Ryu's Ultra combo so lame compared to other, thats got me really bummed!!

Ono

21-02-2009, 10:36

Adge

21-02-2009, 10:36

:thumbs:

tobiasboon

21-02-2009, 10:44

Man, why is Ryu's Ultra combo so lame compared to other, thats got me really bummed!!

It's to be used differently to say Ken's I'd guess. Dhalsim's seems pretty lame as well but I'm guessing they're designed to be used in a different context to some of the other moves. Ken's and Sagat's in particular seem really powerful but I get the impression that in a combo you may be able to match the damage using Ryu's ultra. It's also slightly safer on miss and much safer on block which may account for part of it: Ken's ultra leaves you wiiiiiiiide open for anything when it is blocked for example, Ryu's ultra being blocked doesn't really give an opening despite the long recovery time as the 8 or so hits of the ultra fireball being blocked give ample time to recover.

Also the other reason is that Ryu sucks and Ken is the man! :razz:

Marv

21-02-2009, 10:48

Good to see this headset chat was up and running yesterday, must have been on the patch.

Also thank you capcom for allowing custom soundtracks on the PS3, cant beat abit if Baltimora - Tarzan Boy while kicking some ass.

lettuce

21-02-2009, 10:57

Also the other reason is that Ryu sucks and Ken is the man! :razz:

GAY GAY GAY! :|

Its not so much the ultra move itself, its more so the fact that its just the same damn move as his super (just more hits), didnt Ryu have a Hurricane super in Alpha or something, just thought they could of add more
variety between the super and ultra for Ryu.

Deron

21-02-2009, 11:10

Ryu's ultra is great if you are close and also great if someone jumps into it.

But it's also very easy to jump over and Ryu take's yonks to recover from it.

ken's ultra is great but is easily blocked and only effective if close in as well.

I'm up to 699 points on live now and was practising last night with my mate and had some great strategic battles.

We've had a double knockout as well which was funny.

tobiasboon

21-02-2009, 11:17

GAY GAY GAY! :|

Its not so much the ultra move itself, its more so the fact that its just the same damn move as his super (just more hits), didnt Ryu have a Hurricane super in Alpha or something, just thought they could of add more
variety between the super and ultra for Ryu.

Yeah the super hurricane kick thing, he still has a version of that as an EX move, a bit like his red fireball being an EX move not a special move. The ultras tend to be almost like more dramatic and extended versions of the supers from what I can see bar a few cases (I think I remember Rose's being totally different for example). The only thing I can remember Ryu missing is really that filthy super dragon punch that Gouken now has: the three huge hits, the Shin Shoryuken (True Dragon Punch I think it translates to). His super is a toned down version of that iirc.

Morton

21-02-2009, 12:45

I'm really quite cheesed off.

Got both games now (and sold the spare 360 copy this morning) but don't want to play them until a stick arrives. The 360 pad just sucks with this game. Can't even do fireballs.

Amazon have shipped my SE stick though. Still waiting for Gameshark with the TE.

Good news is, I got a new NDS case. :suspect:

http://www.onosworld.co.uk/temp/sf402.jpg

:lol: Ono, I'm sure I've seen that pencil case before - stragically placed in other photo's you've posted? You should get a job doing product placement in movies. ;)

Dan

21-02-2009, 13:27

Looks like a purse to me.

Ono

21-02-2009, 13:54

PSP case FFS!!!

chris21

21-02-2009, 13:55

Zangief's spinning piledriver is a lot easier to pull off on this than it was in the snes days. I'm thinking this is down to the 360 stick and as such could be the only move easier! Is it a nightmare again on a fight pad?

Rotations are easier with a stick aren't they.

The hardest move I can just about do so far is Guile's Ultra.

zantarous

21-02-2009, 14:27

Unlocked everyone except Seth which should be quite easy now. Loving this game have about five mates on their way round now for a bit of multiplayer.

Might try some Live latter on and start earning them battle points and annoy everyone by being Ken :lol:

Adge

21-02-2009, 14:37

Had some matches against, tobiasboon, I thought I was quite good, but he is very good (they must have been tougher oppenents in his street on the SNES days)... He handed my arse to me... But was an excellent and versatile player, I lost fairly and squarely to be superior player (the only time I did win he kindly picked Dan).

Must be my battered Hori stick, anyone want to sell me one of the 6000 extra sticks you lot have ordered? I'm seriously looking for an upgrade!

But after this, going back and playing against the great unwashed I got a win streak of 9 (just missed 10 due to a very good sagat player)... My biceps ache (as not using to playing on a joystick) but my love affair with this continues onward! BEST GAME EVER!!!

chris21

21-02-2009, 14:38

I'll be chuft when I can tag ultra's onto combos. Just not composed enough at the moment.

I'm thinking focus attack then ultra when opponent is stunned.

My gamer tag is chrisdark360 if anyone fancies a game.

Adge

21-02-2009, 14:40

I loose my composure a lot, I pull off more specials against the CPU as I'm a bit more chilled. My wife has taken to hiding when I play....

tobiasboon

21-02-2009, 15:25

Had some matches against, tobiasboon, I thought I was quite good, but he is very good (they must have been tougher oppenents in his street on the SNES days)... He handed my arse to me... But was an excellent and versatile player, I lost fairly and squarely to be superior player (the only time I did win he kindly picked Dan).
Cheers for the games man. You should play nsb (psn: ziggysays) as I think you'd be pretty well matched. Keep up the practise!

This game is just awesome, loving it so far and just unlocked Seth, woop! :)

Moldiver

21-02-2009, 15:33

just sent some requests out so if anyone fancies a match just lmk.

Adge

21-02-2009, 15:50

Cheers for the games man. You should play nsb (psn: ziggysays) as I think you'd be pretty well matched. Keep up the practise!

This game is just awesome, loving it so far and just unlocked Seth, woop! :)

nsb is on my list, when I next see him it's GO TIME BABY!!

Tony Ferrino

21-02-2009, 16:16

pythons

21-02-2009, 16:19

I've just finished unlocking all the characters (with the exception of Seth) and been having a little bit of a play with Gouken and Akuma as I've never really used them much before.

I'm very rusty, but I'm enjoying it a lot so far. Although I do find having to play against Seth a pain in the arse. :razz:

I had a couple of quick games with Idle Child (thank you sir) this morning and it was kind of even-steven I think by the time I had to leave. I am looking forward to getting some practice in and playing with the rest of you.

My thumb is starting to hurt again, it hasn't ached like this since circa 1992. :thumbs:

Mark

lettuce

21-02-2009, 16:41

I'm having trouble with the timing for Ken's third challenge, the one where you have to Hard Kick then Hadouken. Is there some sort of perfect timing needed or am I even more of a biff than I thought?

Yeah some of them are really difficult, god knows how successful i would be in actually pulling them of in the heat of battle!!? Im stuck on 1 of Guiles, where you have to jump in with FK, crouch MP, EX sonic Boom, followed up by his focus attack. I can get the sonic boom to work :brickwall

Idle Child

21-02-2009, 16:55

Thanks Pythons for the matches earlier.

Strange thing about online is that my connection is playing up when it comes to accurate pings. On the PS3 version I at least saw some coloured bars for latency, but on the 360 version, every single ping on quick and custom search (ranked and player match) was empty with the white symbol is flashing.. ?

When I invited Pythons to a private game that was the only time I saw a yellow 4 bar connection. Funnily enough, I just randomly played some zero bar connections and there was not much lag at all. :thinking: On the PS3, what is stated tends to be the case of the connection speed, ie, if I joined a zero bar room, the lag would be horrendous, so zero bars on 360 and still playbale is quite a mystery.. It's confusing though, cos without seeing a ping for the game, I've no idea what I'm entering into..

Is anyone else having this "ping bug" on 360?

EDIT: PROBLEM RESOLVED. (post #250)

alphatyrant

21-02-2009, 17:06

Just curious, but how much were the fightpads when they were released?

Da Outsider

21-02-2009, 17:17

About £26.

And there's currently one selling for £65 on ebay :nuts:

alphatyrant

21-02-2009, 17:33

Insanity, I'd love to have one, would go up to 35-40 at a stretch, but 2 & 1/2 times what they were? Madness

Moldiver

21-02-2009, 17:36

I only saw them at shopto for around that price. £35 seemed to be the norm.

I'm having some real mixed games on live. Whenever I host a room I can usually get a good connection, but if I join anyone in ranked games it usually goes to ****. I can't tell who has a good connection, though I presume it should show up to the right of the screen. All I see is a symbol that sometimes blinks.

chris21

21-02-2009, 17:38

Yeah some of them are really difficult, god knows how successful i would be in actually pulling them of in the heat of battle!!? Im stuck on 1 of Guiles, where you have to jump in with FK, crouch MP, EX sonic Boom, followed up by his focus attack. I can get the sonic boom to work :brickwall

You might already know this, but in this type of combo you need to start pulling back for the Sonic Boom the second after you've left the ground to jump towards your opponent. Then release and punch button when needed.

Stone Cold

21-02-2009, 18:18

Excellent game.

Seth is a pain in the proverbials though.

Favourite character to fight with is Sagat - he's a beast!

Idle Child

21-02-2009, 18:21

Ignore my post earlier about not seeing any bars. I realised that I can get yellow 4 bars in my search list as long as I first search under "stabilty". I had thought that by selecting "any" it would list just about everything, but the opposite is true it seems. I should have really searched by stabilty in the first place. I believe the PS3 version did show some colour bar connections under "any", but I'd have to check.