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Video footage of the upcoming XBLA Magic the Gathering game...
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Also a recent IGN preview can be found at http://uk.xboxlive.ign.com/articles/945/945126p1.html
Interface looks good & it sounds like it doesn't rely on buying lots of additional DLC cards. :thumbs:
Wendelius
16-01-2009, 11:16
As a former addict, I could see myself spending quite a bit of time online playing that. Especially (and only) if you don't need to keep purchasing boosters.
Wendelius
Looks interesting, will have to give the demo a try.
There's better videos on IGN & the interface looks very slick.
They get the gameplay right, this will be Gaming-Cocaine.
If you have to buy the cards I’m steering well clear, I spent a fortune on the PC version as they cleverly released a new set every few months which were more powerful than the previous set meaning if you wanted to compete and win you had to keep paying.
In the end I sold my account on ebay for a lot of money as I could see it becoming a problem, it’s like virtual crack. Very good game though...
ChrisHunt
16-01-2009, 12:43
Also spent lots of money on the PC version in the past. This will be great if you don't need to buy new cards (even better if you are rewarded cards for winning or something similar)
Wendelius
17-01-2009, 15:29
I was old school. I spent lots of money on the paper cards in the 90ies. They are still sitting in my attic, waiting for my kids to play with me. :lol:
Wendelius
Confirmed that this is released on June 17th. No details on price yet but it's been confirmed that there will be no extra card DLC. The game contains 8 unique decks & a total of 280 different cards, all unlockable through the game via progressing through the single-player campaign & puzzle challenges and via various multi-player/co-op games.
Definite must-have for me. :thumbs:
Thanks for the heads-up on the date Tony. I will certainly be giving the demo a look :thumbs:
ChrisHunt
04-06-2009, 11:49
Looking at the website for this I think I'll definitely be getting it also. Sounds like there is lots of different modes and plenty of room for custamisation
Lots of detaisl here: http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/41j
From reading that, it looks like a game where you certainly get value for money.
Count me in; still got a couple of large boxes of cards to show for my 90's addiction :thumbs:
dannywonderful
04-06-2009, 23:45
No details on price yet but it's been confirmed that there will be no extra card DLC.
From the FAQ:
Q. Will there be expansions or additional decks released for additional game play?
A. We have not currently announced any expansions for Duels of the Planeswalkers, however the game is extremely flexible and we are considering additional content.
This along with the "twitch" timed gameplay they talk about has put me off the game to a certain extent. :(
The timed gameplay is only for multiplayer from what i've read, so I don't mind that.
Heads-up! .... Definitely out on Wednesday, and a bargain at 800pts! :thumbs:
Yay, I was expecting a 1200 / 1600 price as it's Wizards of the Bank ;) Definite pick up for Wednesday when the servers come back up :)
Bapapapa
15-06-2009, 22:38
Heads-up! .... Definitely out on Wednesday, and a bargain at 800pts! :thumbs:Sell the razor cheap.. :suspect:
Yeah chinnyrub they won't be releasing any additional content for this.. :nuts:
dannywonderful
16-06-2009, 09:13
Sell the razor cheap.. :suspect:
Yeah chinnyrub they won't be releasing any additional content for this.. :nuts:
Exactly my thoughts.
ChrisHunt
16-06-2009, 10:36
According to this FAQ (http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?id=76425) there will be expansions
No surprise really that there will be expansions, but the main thing is the actual game is limited to a finite number of cards, all of which can be unlocked through playing the game. I assume they will probably copy EA & sell unlock DLC at a later date, for those too lazy to play through the game.
Having never played it before, is it an easy game to pick up? I imagine there are specific strategies to be learnt?
It is a brilliant game, very easy to pick up but also extremely deep. I used to play a lot, but the cost of keeping up with the competivie game became too much and I stopped the whole thing as it became close to addication!!
From what I've seen in screenies and vids it looks like they are only using cards from the "Core" set - which is a good thing. Should be easy enough to learn for new players. I just worry what will happen to a new player trying to break into it when we're on expansion 13 :lol:
Yeah, the basics are very simple to learn but as you gain more & more cards, the strategy increases exponentially, but still remains incredibly addictive.
I'm actually really looking forward to this :D
I will make sure to get the demo tomorrow then and give it a try :thumbs:
Wendelius
17-06-2009, 09:57
Still not on Live!! :?:
Can't find it either.
Wendelius
Bapapapa
17-06-2009, 12:13
Just read on the Xbox forum that there is no full deck building! You can alter the pre-constructed decks, but only a limited amount..
WTF!? :doh:
Just read on the Xbox forum that there is no full deck building! You can alter the pre-constructed decks, but only a limited amount..
I have no idea what that means :?: :lol:
Just read on the Xbox forum that there is no full deck building! You can alter the pre-constructed decks, but only a limited amount..
WTF!? :doh:
That's crazy
Is that for both single-player & multiplayer?
I can understand why they'd restrict you with regard to single-player as it's just a series of challenges which would be too easy if you could create custom decks, but to restrict multiplayer is a BAD idea. :|
I've got no idea what this game is except it is some sort of card game. I was just checking to see if new XBLA games were on the cards today or are they just gathering themselves. ;)
Wendelius
17-06-2009, 13:00
I have no idea what that means :?: :lol:
Simply that real life Magic (being a collectible card game) is based on your building a collection of cards (by buying lots of pack of cards known as "boosters") and selecting a subset of them to make a coherent (hopefully) deck. Those are the cards you will duel and hope to win with.
The XBLA game seems to differ in 2 ways:
- You don't need to buy boosters to build your deck. All the cards are in the game, ready to be unlocked.
- Apparently, how much you can customise your deck is somewhat limited. How exactly, I don't know. But to Magic players, that part is bound to feel strange as the game is mainly about tweaking the cards you play with to get the best and most consistent results and outwitting your opponent.
Wendelius
Thanks Wendilus, I can see how that would annoy regular players now.
Any news on when this will be up on Live?
Other forums reporting that it can be found under "All Games" BUT any attempt to d/load it results in it stopping after 1%
Just looked and can't see it on there...though Sam and Max has appeared in the Arcade section.
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/00000001-0000-4000-8000-000058410860
281Mb. It's a link to the US site, so not sure if it'll work for UK accounts.
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/00000001-0000-4000-8000-000058410860
281Mb. It's a link to the US site, so not sure if it'll work for UK accounts.
Used the link and download stopped at 1% :(
Ahhh, now also visible via the UK Marketplace site. Do a search for "magic:"
I've bought it & added it to my DLC queue. :)
Tried UK marketplace and download stopped at 1% again :brickwall
Wendelius
17-06-2009, 15:23
Ahhh, now also visible via the UK Marketplace site. Do a search for "magic:"
I've bought it & added it to my DLC queue. :)
Thanks for the tip. Did the same. :thumbs:
Wendelius
Ahhh, now also visible via the UK Marketplace site. Do a search for "magic:"
I've bought it & added it to my DLC queue. :)
Excellent! Added to queue - lets hope they fix the download before I get home :)
Yeah, I won't be able to give it a go for a few hours, so hopefully it'll all be sorted out. Worst case scenario is I have to resort to playing Ghostbusters on the PS3 instead. ;)
Will try the download again in about an hour and see what happens.
Well this isn't good, switch on xbox and check download queue and nothing there, check that Magic still exists on XBLA, it does but it wants to charge me again! Checking the web based marketplace it says "Already Purchased" but when I tell it to add to my queue again I get "Internal Server Error" :(
Think i'll hold off on this for a while then :suspect:
Wendelius
17-06-2009, 16:24
Well this isn't good, switch on xbox and check download queue and nothing there, check that Magic still exists on XBLA, it does but it wants to charge me again! Checking the web based marketplace it says "Already Purchased" but when I tell it to add to my queue again I get "Internal Server Error" :(
Use the website. Go to your account... Purchase history and then click to add MtG to your download queue again.
Wendelius
rainman999
17-06-2009, 16:30
oooh someone let me know what it is like, used to play this on PC
Use the website. Go to your account... Purchase history and then click to add MtG to your download queue again.
Wendelius
Thanks for that, worked a treat. I'm now getting the 1% problem :D
It's appearing on the 'all games' list now but still won't download.
Still not working. Thats from UK and US account
What the hell did they do during the update yesterday!?!? Marketplace is a pain in the arse today :(
download working now at 7:25 - shame I have to go to work though ;) At least it's there for when I get home tonight.
download working now at 7:25 - shame I have to go to work though ;) At least it's there for when I get home tonight.
Cheers for the heads-up, going to d/load now before heading off to work. :thumbs:
ChrisHunt
18-06-2009, 08:24
Glad I stayed in the pub last night now and didn't rush home to play this :P
Will definitely be getting this when I get home tonight though :)
Bapapapa
18-06-2009, 08:37
Just had my first duel in the demo and it seems OK. Very sparkly.. crushed his goblin deck with a couple of trampling wurms!! :D :dork: :thumbs:
Once you've seen all the popup hints and turned them off I should imagine the game will play a lot sleeker and not so stop/start.
However, I've just tried to Giant Growth one of my oppo's creatures and it wouldn't let me!! What's all that about..? :nono:
EDIT - doh! you select with the right stick not the left! :doh:
Oh and good luck reading the text on the board without zooming the cards on a standard def TV!! :lol:
EDIT - **** it, just bought the thing - anyone fancy a duel laters..? :dork:
Finally getting the demo :D
I'll be up for duels with fellow forumites, GT: Kr4vex
I'll be up for duels with fellow forumites, GT: Kr4vex
Yeah, got your invite yesterday, will add you later. Once I get some practice on single-player & blow off my MTG cobwebs, i'll definitely be up for some online duels. Also curious to try out the 2v2 mode at some point.
Had 1 quick go of the demo and still confused...will set aside a bit of time to get used to how it plays before deciding whether to buy or not.
They've got a "Mentor" mode built in where you can connect to someone on Xbox live and they can talk you through a complete game - you both get to see the cards in each others hands so you can fully coach on the best moves to make
The mentor mode sounds good :)
Bapapapa
18-06-2009, 14:20
The deck customisation seems utter pants - unless I'm missing something - you can't take cards out only add the unlocked cards to the existing deck!! I want a sixty card deck without these crappy elephants, thanks.. :razz:
Also seems a bit easy - completed the green campaign pretty much first go, but to be fair it does say it'll be harder next time round!! Will take yonks to do it multiple times with each deck!! :nuts:
Is there a turn-timer for single-player campaign mode? ... or can you play at your own pace?
How was the opponent A.I.?
Wendelius
18-06-2009, 15:16
The deck customisation seems utter pants - unless I'm missing something - you can't take cards out only add the unlocked cards to the existing deck!! I want a sixty card deck without these crappy elephants, thanks.. :razz:
One concern I have: Does the game auto-add land when you add in more cards? If not, don't add more than a couple of the cards you unlock in your deck! Otherwise, you have more and more critters and spells and a lower ratio of land against them. Your deck gets seriously slower and you will lose more games if you have, for example, 17 lands in a 70 cards deck versus 17 lands in the original 60 cards deck.
Also seems a bit easy - completed the green campaign pretty much first go, but to be fair it does say it'll be harder next time round!! Will take yonks to do it multiple times with each deck!! :nuts:
What the game engine does is put the cards which are considered tricky to handle (for the opponent, not the engine) at the bottom of the deck on easy difficulty settings. So your opponent is very unlikely to get to draw some of the really nasty cards, which makes the game much easier.
On your next play through, those cards might come on soon in the game and the AI will not suffer than handicap.
Wendelius
Bapapapa
18-06-2009, 15:52
Is there a turn-timer for single-player campaign mode? ... or can you play at your own pace?
How was the opponent A.I.?Play at your own pace. The only timer is the small window where you can play instants.
Haven't seen the AI make any obvious mistakes.
One concern I have: Does the game auto-add land when you add in more cards? If not, don't add more than a couple of the cards you unlock in your deck! Otherwise, you have more and more critters and spells and a lower ratio of land against them. Your deck gets seriously slower and you will lose more games if you have, for example, 17 lands in a 70 cards deck versus 17 lands in the original 60 cards deck.Pretty sure it doesn't add land as I've added the bonus cards to my deck (16/17 so far) and the card count in the deck is 76.
I initially went to customise the deck looking for a way to take land out, let alone it put more in! I always have it coming out of my ass with the green deck.. :lol:
It's good fun (and good value imo) just a bit disappointed with the lack of deck building options.. :dork:
EDIT - challenges are not much of a challenge!! :dork:
Wendelius
18-06-2009, 18:46
Pretty sure it doesn't add land as I've added the bonus cards to my deck (16/17 so far) and the card count in the deck is 76.
On another forum, one of my XBL friends said:
I just tested it, and it does. With no cards added, my deck was 60. With two cards added, my deck was 64! So it adds land at a high ratio.
Confusing... :thinking:
Wendelius
Just had my first session & didn't take long to recall how to play this. Went through the decent tutorial, completed the first challenge (please tell me they get more "challenging"!) & beat the first two characters (both on the 1st attempt) in the campaign mode.
Interface is excellent, runs smoothly & apart from the silly restriction regarding the deck-building limitations, this is going to be gaming Crack! :thumbs:
Bapapapa
18-06-2009, 21:11
On another forum, one of my XBL friends said:
Confusing... :thinking:
WendeliusSorry, it does add more..
I've got all 17 for the green deck and the total decksize is now 82..!! FFS no wonder it feels land heavy.. :nuts:
The deck building is a joke really.. :brickwall
Wendelius
19-06-2009, 00:01
Finally got it tonight, decided to give it a try and spent over 3 hours engrossed in the matches and puzzles. Sure it has its limitations. But what you get for the low price is one slick MtG game with lots of features and multiplayer play. I like.
If they want to release an "Advanced" version later, that's fine by me too. But I'm looking forward to dueling online with this one.
Wendelius
got this yesterday and having never played magic the gathering before i'm quite enjoying it.
Although this talk about land heavy decks is a bit strange cos i never seem to get more land when i run out of it in my hand. CPU always seems to be a member of the landed gentry
btw. has anyone figured out how to get the spellslinger achievement when the only way to get it seems to be to beat someone with it already.
Unless they have a few people with it already i cant see how you could ever get this.
Bapapapa
19-06-2009, 08:18
I should imagine the programmers/WoTC employees would be the ones who start with the Spellslinger achievement and it spreads when people play them online..
ChrisHunt
19-06-2009, 08:35
btw. has anyone figured out how to get the spellslinger achievement when the only way to get it seems to be to beat someone with it already.
Unless they have a few people with it already i cant see how you could ever get this.
I assume some people have it (perhaps the devs). I think there is a game with fame / with the devs typ event coming up so will probably spread from that.
Am enjoying this but am diasappointed it is so limited. I think it might start to get a bit repetative soon as there are essentially only 8 decks
Slowly but surely getting the hang of it, and starting to beat Chandra every time now in the demo. Hovering over that buy button thats for sure!
Can i get this for the PC or Wii?
Nope. There was a MtG PC game a zillion years ago which I played to death, I believe Microprose published it?
I understand that there was a patch for this today. No word yet what it fixes. Looking at the Xbox forums, apparently there is lots of little bugs, yet to encounter any myself.
Not made too much progress so far, not quite half-way through the single-player campaign & only completed the first three challenges.
Has anyone competed online yet?
I've had 2 freezes using err Cataclysm(?) the red card that destroys a Island/Plains and does 3 damage to the owner - as soon as you target the land the game freezes and xbox needs to reboot :(
I've not played online yet, wanted to get all the cards first, though I'd rather not be using an 80 card deck :)
Had a few goes and it's not 'clicking' with me at all...besides, I have only recently discovered the joys of Bejeweled 2, which takes up all my xbla time :D
Been playing this non-stop since I got it. Very addictive but seems a serious amount of luck involved. Having a good starting hand makes all the difference.
Having never played the paper game I am very impressed. Seems somewhat incomplete though. There's hardly any challenges and the lack of deck customizations seems to be a strange one. With the amount of cards and rules available from the paper version I would have rather paid 1200 points and got an expanded game with more decks and a more varied single player.
Bapapapa
24-06-2009, 11:55
I'll play online if anyone's about later: Baps UK
Thanks for the games, Baps. :thumbs:
Kicking myself for being too eager in the first game, forgot about that artifact you had that zapped me when my card count dropped.
My flying army was comfortable in the second game, but made too many silly mistakes in the third & paid for it.
Oh, and judging by some of your decks, I REALLY need to unlock some of the more tastier cards.
Bapapapa
24-06-2009, 21:25
Yeah good games..
Attempting HariKari with your birdie at the end of the second game was a mistake.. I forgot the red spell gave me the 1 extra life point I needed to survive the next round.. :doh:
I did play the trial version of Magic: The Gathering. I can see why some people like it but it is one of those games that just isn't for me.
On a side note the game decided to cast a mischief spell preventing me from deleting the trial version from my hard drive; I countered with the system reset manoeuvre and erased it from existence.
On a side note the game decided to cast a mischief spell preventing me from deleting the trial version from my hard drive; I countered with the system reset manoeuvre and erased it from existence.
:lol: :lol:
Bloody 'ell!! ... I've been crusing through the single-player campaign, only lost three times beating the first 15 characters ... but now i've already lost more times to the final guy. His artifact deck is ridiculous!
Can anyone help please?
Which deck are you playing and have you put all of the unlocked cards in the deck?
I was having a lot of success with the White deck, but only have 7 cards unlocked for that deck so far.
The green/black deck is also very strong, but so far only unlocked 2 cards for that.
Ahhh managed to complete the single-player campaign at last. Used the Red Deck & actually won quite convincingly.
Still a long way from unlocking every card, concentrate on that next. :thumbs:
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