lord of the rings dvd. anyone seen the rip? [Archive]

tomos

05-02-2002, 14:39

whats the moral problem here though?

ive seen the film twice at the cinemas, and i'll buy the 2 disk special when that comes out. this just tides me over till then. it's not costing new line or whoever anything.

p.s. i have noticed some scenes, nothing big, that i didnt notice in the cinema.:)

bigup

05-02-2002, 14:55

this is the SVCD version init?, i have seen it and the quality is spot on, very surprised as it was the 1st SVCD ive seen :)

New-Boy

05-02-2002, 14:57

Originally posted by tomos
whats the moral problem here though?

ive seen the film twice at the cinemas, and i'll buy the 2 disk special when that comes out. this just tides me over till then. it's not costing new line or whoever anything.

I've got a mate who has seen this on VCD or whatever format it was. He watched it with his girlfriend, who got it from her brother who has seen it with his parents who lent it to a couple more friends. None of these people saw it at the cimema, how many are going to buy the DVD release ? None of them.

stigdu

05-02-2002, 15:05

The DVD rip I saw was bloomin' awful quality! Sound was pretty good, but it looked like a camcorder job, colours all washed out, like a 512x384 game on VERY low textures! (Was this from a bad batch then? It sure sounds like it!)

arkham

05-02-2002, 15:06

these should only be ok if u know u are gonna buy the official release

As much as it pains me im trying really hard to get the star was bootleg dvds but i know i will buy the offical ones the day they come out too

tomos

05-02-2002, 15:19

Alanok

05-02-2002, 15:29

Originally posted by tomos

but i will. so in my eyes there's nothing wrong with me having this copy as i am not costing the owner any money.

But do you know where your money is going to?

tomos

05-02-2002, 15:35

what money? i got mine off a mate who downloaded it off winmx. i wouldnt buy it. not when it's downloadable anyway.

New-Boy

05-02-2002, 15:43

Originally posted by tomos

but i will. so in my eyes there's nothing wrong with me having this copy as i am not costing the owner any money.

fuzzy logic :nuts:

tomos

05-02-2002, 15:53

how is that fuzzy? if i dont have it, the company gets my money for the dvd's. if i do have this the company gets my money for the dvd's. the only diff is now i have something to tide me over. it doesnt affect the owners at all.

05-02-2002, 16:20

tomos - do u think you're the only person on the planet. True, u may buy the official release, but the majority of people watching the pirate will not. As u would put it - that IS costing te owners money, hence it is illegal. Now do u understand?

jroadley

05-02-2002, 16:22

I got the newline test print on a single DVD, with inlay card all for £7 - 5.1 sound and 2.35:1 lbx looks great. No way would I keep this as a pukka copy so will buy the official release when it comes out.

05-02-2002, 16:26

And a further point, if u did not have the illegal copy, the the way to 'tide yourself over' til the DVD is released would be to keep watching the film at the cinema. Therefore, u are costing the owners money.

tomos

05-02-2002, 16:54

Originally posted by nc
And a further point, if u did not have the illegal copy, the the way to 'tide yourself over' til the DVD is released would be to keep watching the film at the cinema. Therefore, u are costing the owners money.

no i'm not as i wasnt planning to go and see the movie again. if they re release it before showing the two towers then i will go see it then because it is better in the cinema.

as to your other post

do u think you're the only person on the planet. True, u may buy the official release, but the majority of people watching the pirate will not. As u would put it - that IS costing te owners money, hence it is illegal. Now do u understand?
:rolleyes:
no i dont since i am not responsible for what others do. only what i do. other people do what you are saying, that's true. but i'm not. you think that because others are doing this that i should throw away my copy or something? what good would that do? new line or whoever wouldnt get any extra money from me since i already want to see the movie again in a few months if/when they rerelease it. but i wont go see it again now. i know it's illegal getting copies of films like this, but to me that doesnt mean it's wrong. not unless i am distributing my copy or something and possibly stopping others going to see the film cos they have the svcd's which i am not going to do.

now do YOU understand?:nuts:

05-02-2002, 17:47

tomos - your stupidity is baffling me!!!

no i'm not as i wasnt planning to go and see the movie again. if they re release it before showing the two towers then i will go see it then because it is better in the cinema.

If you're not planning to see the film again before The Two Towers then why the hell have u got an illegal copy, but if u do watch it again, then why aren't u watching it at the cinema, as in your words 'it is better at the cinema.'

i know it's illegal getting copies of films like this, but to me that doesnt mean it's wrong

:rolleyes: :D ;) :p :confused: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

Spinning Plates

05-02-2002, 18:25

Screenshots. (http://www.vcdgear.com/images/vcdq/id695.jpg)

Theres the same out as the above for Monsters Inc and Oceans 11. Apparently its to do with the Oscars and Golden Globes with DVD's being handed out to the voters and ending up in the wrong hands.

tomos

05-02-2002, 18:41

tomos - your stupidity is baffling me!!!

no i'm not as i wasnt planning to go and see the movie again. if they re release it before showing the two towers then i will go see it then because it is better in the cinema.

If you're not planning to see the film again before The Two Towers then why the hell have u got an illegal copy, but if u do watch it again, then why aren't u watching it at the cinema, as in your words 'it is better at the cinema.'

i know it's illegal getting copies of films like this, but to me that doesnt mean it's wrong

hmm ok whatever. i don't bother posting in threads that get insulting.:(

Xenole

05-02-2002, 18:42

I, for one, have seen a few films off the net that I wouldn't have gone to see at the cinema eg Cats & Dogs, Harry Potter etc.
Some films either get bad reviews, or don't seem like my cup-of-tea, so it's nice to see them first without paying £17.99 for a DVD that ends up on the forums a day later for far less than I paid for it (in the past I bought so many dvds without knowing what they were really about) or £4-5 for a cinema ticket, petrol money, Humber Bridge tolls (to get to the UCI or whatever in Hull) etc. If I liked the movies, as I did with the two I mentioned, I'll definitely buy them (or wait in the case of HP as it's not out till March).
Some major ones like LORT deserve cinema viewing based upon trailers alone, but so many I've never heard off don't really justify an initial outlay......

StayPuft

05-02-2002, 19:24

do u think you're the only person on the planet. True, u may buy the official release, but the majority of people watching the pirate will not. As u would put it - that IS costing te owners money, hence it is illegal. Now do u understand?

Those of us with decent copies simply dont care though. Now do you understand?

rjw72

05-02-2002, 19:27

i had a copy of lotr from a shop near where i work it was pretty poor quality but watchable, i used to buy alot of copies but its to hit and miss with quality etc better to wait, i can see why people do buy them though at £5.60 each to go to the cinema some people prefer to buy a copy of the film.
The shop near my work sells loads of films a week

Gromit

05-02-2002, 20:18

Originally posted by nc
tomos - your stupidity is baffling me!!!

i know it's illegal getting copies of films like this, but to me that doesnt mean it's wrong

nc whilst you may have a different view to tomos it's unnecessary to start getting into personal insults. Can you keep the discussion on a less personal level.

On the latter point, I can think of several situations where that principle applies. Consider the situation regarding the purchase of hardcore a few years ago. It was most definitely illegal. People still bought them. I didn't think they were wrong.

Few people think anything about copying CDs and that involves all the same copyright issues as films. In fact, it's probably worse because the CD quality is usually indistinguishable from the original (at least to my ears :)). Hence people rarely go out and buy the CD. Of course, CDs don't require the same level of investment but the principle is the same.

05-02-2002, 22:00

I don't have a problem with people who have pirates. Hell, I nearly got one the other week. However, I do have a problem with people who try to defend piracy as it is a source of income for people I hate (drugdealers, criminals, etc.) I'm sorry if I offended u tomos, but your posts suggested to me that u were defending piracy.

pieguts

05-02-2002, 22:01

HighlanderTM

05-02-2002, 22:07

Yes, myself also. Saw it three times at the cinema. Where would i buy the SVCD version?

Thanks.

Boltjeremy@hotmail.com

Ono

05-02-2002, 22:13

Oooh, oooh.

While we're on the subject:

Can anyone tell me where to get pirate PS2 games and also how do I burn Dreamcast ISOs onto my CDRs.

Also, can I have a link for getting ISOs too please?

:nuts: :nuts: :nuts:

WHY IS THIS THREAD STILL HERE??

Spinning Plates

05-02-2002, 22:16

arkham

05-02-2002, 22:38

Originally posted by Spinning Plates

That was low
:nuts:

silverpenguin7

05-02-2002, 23:23

Tut tut

mikegray

06-02-2002, 11:47

Originally posted by New-Boy

I've got a mate who has seen this on VCD or whatever format it was. He watched it with his girlfriend, who got it from her brother who has seen it with his parents who lent it to a couple more friends. None of these people saw it at the cimema, how many are going to buy the DVD release ? None of them.

So what have the studio lost, exactly? They weren't going to see it at the cinema, they aren't going to buy the DVD. Total loss to studio = $0.00

As for me, I saw it at the cinema, have the SVCDs, and will buy the second (decent) version of the DVD. People who are going to pay for it will pay for it, those who aren't never would have, unfortunately.

mikegray

06-02-2002, 11:51

Originally posted by nc
I don't have a problem with people who have pirates. Hell, I nearly got one the other week. However, I do have a problem with people who try to defend piracy as it is a source of income for people I hate (drugdealers, criminals, etc.) I'm sorry if I offended u tomos, but your posts suggested to me that u were defending piracy.

Been reading your FACT propaganda, have you? ;) I would very much doubt that money from SVCD copies of LOTR go to drug dealers - I suspect heroin and crack are somewhat more profitable!

Most of the people here probably got it for nothing from a friend with a CD-Writer, I know I did, and they got it from someone with broadband who downloaded it off the 'net. The people who released it onto the 'net did it for *free*, circulated it widely, and there were no drug dealers involved at any juncture that I can spot in that equation!

dvdric

06-02-2002, 12:35

why buy vcds when you can get the pirate dvd with all the extras of the region 1 disc in 5.1 surround sound no contest dvdric

wigsey

06-02-2002, 12:57

arkham

06-02-2002, 13:03

EDITED for fear of causing problems in the forum

Cirrus888

06-02-2002, 13:06

:nuts: Apparently pirated media funds organised crime which ultimately keeps petty crime like bag snatching to a minimum! :nuts:

dvdric

06-02-2002, 13:09

oh no a pirate dvd come on your saying you not had any pirate gear in your life i dont believe it

Professor Abronsius

06-02-2002, 13:16

I *cough* bought this for a friend on DVD, as no one would go to the Cinema with him to see it. He did not want to go himself. Now he can view it at his own pleasure in his own home. :D

It is on one disc, widescreen and apparently has 5.1 Sound. Plays fine on PS2 and home DVD Players.

Of course, i watched it before i gave it to him... ;)

EDIT - also, check here (http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=51767) for info regarding cuts in the film. I noticed one major cut at the cinema that was intact on the DVD.

Cheers. :)

GregB

06-02-2002, 13:32

I think it's legitimate to be discussing Piracy but am not too sure about people asking for details of where to get such discs as it could lead to problems for the forum.

KeyserSoze

06-02-2002, 14:26

i could get hold of the DivX version this very second, but im not going to. I can see myself watching it all the time and when the DVD gets released (which i am definately getting) i wont want to watch it any more.

might get it for the family though ;)

Gromit

06-02-2002, 15:23

As this is a DVD and Movie Discussion forum I think it's fair that this topic is discussed. But please do NOT post links to sources of illegal software as you will most definitely fall foul of the T&Cs of the forum and it therefore makes sense not to ask people to post links.

Keep it forum friendly folks :)

Bapapapa

06-02-2002, 15:33

I don't give a monkey's one way or another, tbh. But isn't all this talk of how good the LOTR bootleg - plus others - is, liable to **** off *most* :p of the sponsors?

THX

06-02-2002, 17:01

Without getting my post removed like my thread i think we can all agree that everyone who imports region 1 DVD's is taking money away from the British Distributers here in good old Blighty.

So lets not all get on the Righteous Bandwagon

P.S i have the DVD screener and it is of Excellent Quality and for free like my newly aquired Monsters Inc 'DVD' screener.

And yes i will still purchase the Region 1 DVD's when they are available.

THX

06-02-2002, 17:27

Without getting my post removed like my thread i think we can all agree that everyone who imports region 1 DVD's is taking money away from the British Distributers here in good old Blighty.

So lets not all get on the Righteous Bandwagon

This is probably the biggest piece of garbage on this thread. It is perfectly legal to buy R1's, so to compare this to piracy is lunacy! The majority of R2 DVD's are American and believe it or not, most of the money goes across the pond.

THX

06-02-2002, 18:13

This is probably the biggest piece of garbage on this thread. It is perfectly legal to buy R1's, so to compare this to piracy is lunacy! The majority of R2 DVD's are American and believe it or not, most of the money goes across the pond.

Not over the counter at your local Blockbuster it Aint or your HMV's Now i wonder why that is.

THINK ABOUT IT NC

Before replying.

THX

06-02-2002, 18:46

THX, Please note I said most, not all.

Welshlad

11-02-2002, 08:07

WOW!
Saw this film last night on SVCD and all I can say is amazing! Not only is the film awesome, but the quality of it is immense! Terrific Sound and superb picture ensured a thoroughly enjoyable 3 hours entertainment.
I’d never have seen it at the cinema (I absolutely NEVER go to the cinema) but cannot wait for the legit DVD to get released now, because its gonna be one hell of a disk!
Hell, the DVD version even animated menus, cast & crew, trailers etc. Awesome or what?

Mr Nice

11-02-2002, 08:17

Originally posted by THX

Not over the counter at your local Blockbuster it Aint or your HMV's Now i wonder why that is.

The reason that R1 DVD's are "illegal" is NOT because they R1. It is because they have not been rated by the BBFC and have the correct rating logo on the front, on the side and on the disc. Legally, if a R1 dvd was put through the BBFC, there would be nothing wrong with it being sold over the counter. In the eyes of the law, region coding means nothing. Its purely a part of DVD licensing etc.