Amelie... grrr.... [Archive] - Forums @ The Digital Fix

mikegray

05-02-2002, 11:31

From R2 Project:

Momentum have announced "Amelie" for release on April 15th. Two editions will be available, a standard edition 1t £19.99 and a Double disk version at £24.99. Extras are as follows:

Standard edition

Director's Commentary
Special edition

Director's Commentary
Storyboards;
Script to Screen Feature;
Teaser Trailers;
Trailer;
Talent Q & A Feature;
Director's Interview;
Audrey Tautou's Funny Faces Feature;
Making of Amelie Featurette

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So not only have they put the release back, the sods have increased the price and split it into two separate editions. So which one is the £14.99 Play one? :(

SimonI

05-02-2002, 11:35

When I ordered my copy from Play it listed all of the features in the SE above; now the same disk here (http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=99419) only lists the single disk features :mad:

So I guess the two-disk will be appearing soon at Play at £17.99...

Alanok

05-02-2002, 12:01

Time to cancel the order at Play then. I noticed that the release date had been moved back on the Amazon and Bensonworls sites.

I also notice that ********* and Ringos have Amelie R1 listed at £18 and Futurent have it for £16.99. I wonder if R1 will be only getting the 2 disk version. No release date though as far as I can see.

Rhys

05-02-2002, 13:37

"Momentum realised the only way they could ever be happy themselves was to make their customers unhappy. Delaying Amelie is a crime itself but to release two versions and up the booty should be hangable! Momentum are almost happy but will they take it on themselves to release a pan & scan version just to make us even more furious?"

mikegray

05-02-2002, 13:54

Originally posted by Rhys
"Momentum realised the only way they could ever be happy themselves was to make their customers unhappy. Delaying Amelie is a crime itself but to release two versions and up the booty should be hangable! Momentum are almost happy but will they take it on themselves to release a pan & scan version just to make us even more furious?"

No, no, they'll release only a *dubbed* version with no subtitles and no French language soundtrack in Pan & Scan in the limited French tin. The fiends. ;)

Eyestein

05-02-2002, 14:33

Booooooooo!!

SimonI

05-02-2002, 14:35

As I've said before, I don't mind a delay if it means a better disk in the end; and selling two versions is giving buyers more choice, at the of the day. At least the single disk still has the commentary - this may be sufficient for many. It'd be nice to have the tin, though... not much chance of that, I suspect.

kcxdev

05-02-2002, 14:38

I have mine on preorder at amazon and I posted before why play and amazon had different release dates but got not reply. I just want to check out the movie so I'm sticking with my preorder (got it for less than £12 anyway)

Shingster

05-02-2002, 14:40

I don't see what the problem is people! :confused:
The delay is only 20 days & the 2-disc set will be £3 more expensive at Play, cancelling your initial pre-order is only a minor inconvenience if you ask me.

I think this is great news, Momentum are treating Amelie with the respect it deserves & good on them! I just wish Tartan would start doing the same thing with their titles.

Jimmyboy

05-02-2002, 15:21

Exactly,
Remember, alot of people will turn there nose up at the idea of paying around £22 retail price for a 2-disc version of a subtitled film that there not to sure about but would like to see as its had such good reviews.
By releasing a single disc version for around £14.99, these people might very well still buy Amelie at that price.
Its good marketing if you ask me & will only boost sales of the DVD.
I could understand the problem if they scraped the 2-disc in favour for the single disc !.

Shingster

05-02-2002, 16:34

Originally posted by Jimmyboy
I could understand the problem if they scrapped the 2-disc in favour for the single disc !.

I could also understand the problem if the 2-disc version was put back till November so that we'd have to wait for the better release, but they're not doing that & they should be applauded for it.

I only pre-ordered the disc at Play because I thought they'd got the price wrong, as those specs always applied to a 2-disc to me, so i'm not disappointed! :p

The Beyond

05-02-2002, 16:49

Loved the film but I think I'll stick with the single disc version.

To be honest, the special features on the 2 disc set look like a bag of pants.

Audrey Tautou's funny face feature? (I bet it lasts no more than 3 minutes)

making of featurette (not feature - I give it 5 mins)

storyboards (yawn)

trailers (should be standard)

and some question and answer sessions which will have been lifted from the electronic press kit.

save your money. Don't confuse quantity with quality.

Tob

05-02-2002, 16:53

Originally posted by The Beyond
Loved the film but I think I'll stick with the single disc version.

To be honest, the special features on the 2 disc set look like a bag of pants.

Audrey Tautou's funny face feature? (I bet it lasts no more than 3 minutes)

making of featurette (not feature - I give it 5 mins)

storyboards (yawn)

trailers (should be standard)

and some question and answer sessions which will have been lifted from the electronic press kit.

save your money. Don't confuse quantity with quality.

Yeah, you're right but I bet I still get seduced and buy the double disc effort. Wonder what the R1 specs will be......

Eyestein

05-02-2002, 20:25

Just for the record my "Boooooo!" was for the slight delay - I was hoping to have it to watch upon my return from Canada, to help get me through the post-holiday blues (it was due for release the day after I come home) .....but I'm more than happy to wait if it's worth waiting for.

So that's a "hoooooorah!" then.

SimonI

06-02-2002, 09:34

And now we're getting Delicatessen (http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/index.cgi?page=News&id=2737) too!

Wendelius

06-02-2002, 11:01

Originally posted by The Beyond
Loved the film but I think I'll stick with the single disc version.

To be honest, the special features on the 2 disc set look like a bag of pants.

making of featurette (not feature - I give it 5 mins)

and some question and answer sessions which will have been lifted from the electronic press kit.

Actually, the 2 extras above are quite decent.

The feature I only saw the first 3 minutes of before my TV went *bang* (I'm on the market for a new one now :) ) but it looked like footage taped during the filming. More like the extra you get on the French Delicatessen where you can see the actors rehearsing, going through make-up, the crew studying the best spots to shoot, ...

I'm not sure because I didn't see it all but I enjoyed that feature on Delicatessen and would hope the rest is of the same type here. It lasts about 13 minutes, not 5, by the way.

As for the interview, that one was really interesting (for me). It's Jeunet sitting in a chair and talking about making the movie, selecting the actors, what kind of success he expected, ...

Basically, he says that he's a fan of DVD and wanted to record all his thoughts on the movie and keep them there so that he could watch himself again in a few years and remember.

It is a reasonably weird extra because he's there, talking alone but I enjoyed it.

I also enjoy storyboards but that's just me. ;)

Wendelius

Adge

06-02-2002, 12:15

So this (http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=99419) is the standard edition at play?

SimonI

06-02-2002, 12:21

Originally posted by Adge
So this (http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=99419) is the standard edition at play?

Going by the price and features - yes. They don't seem to be listing the SE or Delicatessen yet... (must click on Add to cart...must click on Add to cart...must click on Add to cart...)

Alanok

06-02-2002, 12:21

Yeah it is cause it only lists the commentary as an extra. Just cancelled mine await the SE 2 disk.

The Beyond

06-02-2002, 16:22

I enjoyed that feature on Delicatessen and would hope the rest is of the same type here. It lasts about 13 minutes, not 5, by the way.

ahhh
that will explain why it has to be on 2 discs then [ /sarcasm off]

seriously though - I'm still not convinced. there doesn't seem anything worthy of a second disc on here.
You are being conned, people. Wake up and smell the java :rolleyes:

Wendelius

06-02-2002, 16:42

Originally posted by The Beyond

ahhh
that will explain why it has to be on 2 discs then [ /sarcasm off]

seriously though - I'm still not convinced. there doesn't seem anything worthy of a second disc on here.
You are being conned, people. Wake up and smell the java :rolleyes:

Note that I never said this was worthy of a second disc (you get it for free on the French edition anyway :p ) and don't know whether those features would make it worth buying the 2 disks edition for anyone.

As I said, I have those extras anyway and enjoyed them. No more. ;)

Wendelius

Shingster

06-02-2002, 16:48

Originally posted by The Beyond
You are being conned, people. Wake up and smell the java :rolleyes:

Eh? :confused: :confused:
Why are we being conned? If you don't think the 2-disc set is worth the extra cash, then buy the single disc!
I could understand your problem if Momentum did an Anchor Bay on us & charged twice as much for the SE, but there's only going to be £3 difference in the prices at Play.

The Beyond

06-02-2002, 17:00

If you don't think the 2-disc set is worth the extra cash, then buy the single disc!

I belive I already said I'd do that when I posted this:
Loved the film but I think I'll stick with the single disc version.
sorry if that was confusing for you :D

All I'm trying to say is that the extras certainly don't seem worthy of a second disc (although I'm quite happy to be proved wrong)
It seems to be a recent phenomenon that discs are being brought out as 2 disc sets when their contents don't really warrant it (the recent release of "Oh Brother Where art Thou" is a prime example.)

The conned statement was just my reaction to the DVD companies knowing that certain people will buy a 2 disc set over a 1 disc set due to a kind of "DVD snobbery" that most collectors have.
It isn't exclusive to DVD collecting, and it isn't a personal attack - just an observation.

I'm guilty of it myself on a regular basis. :D
If you really want the 2 disc set, I suggest you wait about three months and buy it in the next HMV sale for a tenner.

06-02-2002, 21:11

Originally posted by Shingster
I could understand your problem if Momentum did an Anchor Bay on us & charged twice as much for the SE, but there's only going to be £3 difference in the prices at Play.

Absolutely, in this case probably worth an extra couple of quid (although we don't actually know it'll only cost £3 more yet, do we? ;) ).

The Beyond does have a valid point though. It's quite difficult to know whether a 2-disc set is actually worth the extra or whether they've just spread out some features they could've got on one disc just to hike the price up, especially on pre-orders.

Shingster

06-02-2002, 22:05

Originally posted by The Beyond

sorry if that was confusing for you :D

I missed your first post, sorry. I was just confused that you thought they were conning us, when there isn't much of a price hike for the 2-discer. Shame you felt the need to patronise me.

All I'm trying to say is that the extras certainly don't seem worthy of a second disc (although I'm quite happy to be proved wrong)
It seems to be a recent phenomenon that discs are being brought out as 2 disc sets when their contents don't really warrant it (the recent release of "Oh Brother Where art Thou" is a prime example.)

I got that point, it was the fact you said they were conning us that i was responding to. I just thought "How can they be conning us when they are saying Here's the normal edition, here's a SE, take your pick

The conned statement was just my reaction to the DVD companies knowing that certain people will buy a 2 disc set over a 1 disc set due to a kind of "DVD snobbery" that most collectors have.
It isn't exclusive to DVD collecting, and it isn't a personal attack - just an observation.

I say fair play to Momentum, if people are daft enough to spend the extra money just because it's a 2disc set & not because it's worth the extra bob, it's their fault! But then, i've always been a callous get! :D.
I certainly won't be buying Amelie until I've read the review of the extras on the 2-disc.

Wendelius

07-02-2002, 09:12

Originally posted by Shingster

I certainly won't be buying Amelie until I've read the review of the extras on the 2-disc.

The French edition has already been reviewed on DVD Times at http://www.dvdtimes.org.uk/index.cgi?page=Review&id=446&story=2496

the extras are largely identical.

One thing I had missed when first reading the list of UK extras: it looks like "Foutaises", the 8 minute short film is gone. Pity. I wouldn't watch it over and over again but it was interesting and very much in the style of the start of the movie.

Wendelius

SimonI

07-02-2002, 09:23

It seems to be a recent phenomenon that discs are being brought out as 2 disc sets when their contents don't really warrant it

Indeed - but on the other hand, transferring all of the extras to a second disk ought to allow them to up the bit rate on the film disk, giving us a better transfer.

Wendelius

07-02-2002, 10:29

Originally posted by SimonI
Indeed - but on the other hand, transferring all of the extras to a second disk ought to allow them to up the bit rate on the film disk, giving us a better transfer.

Also, the French edition boasts both a DTS and DD5.1 soundtrack. What's the word on the UK DVD? Will it contain a dubbed soundtrack? Will one of the soundtracks be DTS too?

When you want multiple soundtracks and good image/sound quality, I also think it makes sense to split the film and its extras.

Wendelius

SimonI

07-02-2002, 13:09

As of this morning, Play (http://www.play.com/Play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=100128) have the 2-disk set up - no info yet on screen and sound options. The price - you guessed it... £17.99. Now I'm off to cancel my previous order and get this one :)

neilgr

14-02-2002, 17:20

Play now says that the 2 disc version has now been withdrawn :(
Anyone heard why

cervaro

14-02-2002, 17:28

"Please note: Due to unforseen circumstances, this title has been withdrawn from release. The single disc version of this film will still be available from 15 April 2002."

Maybe there's some kind of rights issues on the extras?

Strange thing is this has been posted on the DVD Times site today from a conversation with the PR people at Momentum:

"Amelie will be available as both a Standard (Single Disc) and Special (2-Disc) Edition, both will feature the following Audio/Visual presentation...

Anamorphic Widescreen - 2.35:1

English subtitles

Dolby Digital 5.1

DTS 6.1 Surround
An Audio Commentary with Director Jean-Pierre Jeunet will be the only extra found on the Standard Edition. The Special 2-Disc Edition will contain the same basic first disc as the standard release, and add a second disc with the following extra features...

Storyboards

Script to Screen Feature

Teaser Trailers

Trailers

Talent Q&A Feature

Directors Interview

Audrey Tautou's Funny Faces Feature

Making of Amelie Featurette
Both versions will debut on April 15th, ...."

What is going on?

kcxdev

26-02-2002, 20:38

according to this (http://www.dvddebate.com/article.php?sid=2603&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0), it looks like the 2 disc is cancelled :(

Lorne.t

26-02-2002, 20:50

If anybodys looking for a quick Amelie fix,the movie is available as an official R3 VCD.
I picked it up for about £8 from coolashop.

kcxdev

26-02-2002, 21:03

surely you got it for less? hk$40 + hk$29 so $69 which should be about £6. oh, VCD's aren't region coded btw ;)

I got the single disc on preorder from amazon for £11.85 anyway :)

zenza

26-02-2002, 21:15

Originally posted by kcxdev
surely you got it for less? hk$40 + hk$29 so $69 which should be about £6. oh, VCD's aren't region coded btw ;)

I got the single disc on preorder from amazon for £11.85 anyway :)

How did you get it for £11.85 kc? It's retailing at £15.99 on the amazon site.