Videologic LC and DTS version [Archive] - Forums @ The Digital Fix

elfranko

04-02-2002, 13:53

Hang on - the DTS package which comes with the remote and little black box with widgets on is the 5.1DD and DTS version? And the LC version is just 5.1DD? Is the LC version just the speakers without the decoder? And the reason why the LC version doesn't play DTS is because you need the decoder? What if your player outputs DTS as well as 5.1DD, would the LC version be the same as the DTS version?

Confused??? :confused: Can someone sort this out for me please??

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Bapapapa

04-02-2002, 13:56

The LC is just the amp & speakers from the DD Digitheatre. You need a player with a built in decoder and if the player decodes both DD & DTS you'll hear both.

If your player hasn't got a decoder then fergeddaboutit.

:D

elfranko

04-02-2002, 14:00

Ah ha - back of my Cyberhome player (http://www.cyberhome-europe.de/specs/adm512/Rueck_detail.jpg) - will this do DTS output - can you see? I know it does DD5.1 - also the speakers are just the same as the DTS ones, but not as powerful are they not?

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gobstopper

04-02-2002, 15:53

It certainly has 5.1 outputs on it. The point that Bapapapa is making is that your system will need to have a DTS decoder on-board as well.

As far as I know, the presence of the DTS logo on the front of the unit is no such guarantee. This simply means that it is capable of passing a DTS signal (via the Digial Optical or Coaxial connections) to an external device capable of decoding the DTS signal.

elfranko

04-02-2002, 16:03

Thanks people - I found a digital version of the manual on their site. It's true that it has 5.1 decode, but DTS is only digital pass-through as said above. If only I had the £150 to buy the DTS videologic speakers thing from Tiny....(Yes yes I know they're crap, but at that price you try not to complain...) - sigh :rolleyes:

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Bapapapa

04-02-2002, 16:11

Tiny have gone bust mate. :p

elfranko

04-02-2002, 16:14

yeah I know, taken over by Time - but are the take-over-receivers selling stuff off cheap on their site, is that all tat?

chong168

04-02-2002, 20:53

I am using the latest version of PowerDVDXP, which decodes DTS signals. Does this mean I can get the LC version instead of the full monty??

Bapapapa

04-02-2002, 21:00

Originally posted by chong168
I am using the latest version of PowerDVDXP, which decodes DTS signals. Does this mean I can get the LC version instead of the full monty?? If your soundcard can output a six channel signal, then yep it'll work fine.

Details of all VL products can be found here (http://www.videologic.co.uk/Products/ProductIndex.asp).

elfranko

05-02-2002, 08:02

Originally posted by chong168
I am using the latest version of PowerDVDXP, which decodes DTS signals. Does this mean I can get the LC version instead of the full monty??

Scrreeech! Hang on! Okay, if he can do it via his PC, how do I get DTS on my DVD player? How much is a DTS decoder? Are there any sub-£200 players with DTS decode on-board?

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Bapapapa

05-02-2002, 08:48

Originally posted by elfranko

Scrreeech! Hang on! Okay, if he can do it via his PC, how do I get DTS on my DVD player? How much is a DTS decoder? Are there any sub-£200 players with DTS decode on-board?

f Probably.

Why would you want to buy one though? Just put the money you'd spend on the new player towards a DTS Digitheatre? :/

elfranko

05-02-2002, 08:57

Unfortunately our funds won't cover the £300 + for the DTS version, so I was hoping that I could buy the 5.1DD version and then at a later point buy a DTS decoder? I assume this would work - but how much will it cost? I see VL do a decoder to go from pro-logic to DD5.1, but what if I want to go from DD to DTS at a later date?

ta

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Bapapapa

05-02-2002, 09:02

Pointless getting a seperate decoder - the cheapest is the Yammy E800 and thats 300 quid. :/

You could buy a player with an inbuilt decoder at a later date, but it's a pretty mad way of going about it.

elfranko

05-02-2002, 09:13

arse arse arse arse arse! :(

Talk about a rock and a hard place - I suppose VL have deliberately not made a thing to go from DD to DTS so you are forced to buy the full DTS package?!?! Even if the dd version cost £120 and then you had to pay another £200 later for the DTS amp and decoder would be better than all in one go - for money-tight me anyhow. The easiest way wouldbe to get a 5.1DTS sound card as above and use my PC - but then it's hacking my PC DVD player :mad: Talk about no win situation.

What is the significant difference between DTS and DD? I'm a DVD fan, but I don't watch films wall to wall 24-7, probably one DVD a week if I'm lucky or have the time - so is it worth the extra expense?

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Bapapapa

05-02-2002, 09:21

What is the significant difference between DTS and DD?

Not a lot, to be honest.

I'm a DVD fan, but I don't watch films wall to wall 24-7, probably one DVD a week if I'm lucky or have the time - so is it worth the extra expense?

For you, I doubt it. It's nice to have the choice, but if all you've experienced is stereo or pro-logic then vanilla DD 5.1 will blow your socks off. :p

elfranko

05-02-2002, 11:18

Just got this reply from VL re - anything to go from DD5.1 to DTS:

Unfortunately the only way to go from DD5.1 to DTS is to purchase the entire system.

Official line. Not very nice is it? In the fact that they have something to go from Pro-Logic to DD, but nothing from DD to DTS.

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Bapapapa

05-02-2002, 11:31

Mate, what on earth are you banging on about? The DTS system is completely different to the 5.1 one and there is no upgrade from pro-logic to DD either, so I dunno where you got that from.

elfranko

05-02-2002, 11:37

Originally posted by Bapapapa
Mate, what on earth are you banging on about? The DTS system is completely different to the 5.1 one and there is no upgrade from pro-logic to DD either, so I dunno where you got that from.

I know the DD system is different from the DTS one - take a look at this prologic - to - DD5.1 wotsit (http://www.videologic.co.uk/Products/VL-60384/ProductIntro.asp?Product=VL-60384) .

I was just hoping that if I got the DD5.1 setup that I could add something to it to get DTS as well.

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Bapapapa

05-02-2002, 11:42

So where is your pro-logic system to utilise that upgrade, mate?

The LC isn't pro-logic, it's just an amp/sub/sat system.

elfranko

05-02-2002, 12:36

prologic - to - DD5.1 wotsit (http://www.videologic.co.uk/Products/VL-60384/ProductIntro.asp?Product=VL-60384) .

So how does the above thingy work exactly? I thought it takes the signal from a non-decoding DVD player, decodes the signal and feeds it into the Digitheatre LC DD 5.1 speakers?

Have I got this right? If so, I would have thought they would have produced a more expensive one that does DTS as well.

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Bapapapa

05-02-2002, 13:23

Yes, it does that as you describe. But, these companies have to draw the line somewhere when it comes to cost & practicality. You can't slag them, just because they don't produce *exactly* what you want at the price you want and as you can buy full blown DD/DTS receivers for under 200 quid who would buy a standalone DTS decoder? Apart from you that is. :p

In fact, I'm surprised they even supply a seperate DD decoder, 'cos no-one else does. :p

elfranko

05-02-2002, 13:27

Originally posted by Bapapapa
Yes, it does that as you describe. But, these companies have to draw the line somewhere when it comes to cost & practicality. You can't slag them, just because they don't produce *exactly* what you want at the price you want and as you can buy full blown DD/DTS receivers for under 200 quid who would buy a standalone DTS decoder? Apart from you that is. :p

Point taken. Thanks for the conversation/info! :)

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gobstopper

05-02-2002, 15:07

Originally posted by Bapapapa
In fact, I'm surprised they even supply a seperate DD decoder, 'cos no-one else does. :p

As the only difference between the DigiTheatre LC and the DigiTheatre 5.1 is the presence (or lack of) of the decoder, they've provided the decoder as an upgrade option.

However, you are absolutely correct about the DigiTheatre DTS being a completely different animal from it's DD5.1 cousin.

elfranko

05-02-2002, 15:19

Originally posted by gobstopper

As the only difference between the DigiTheatre LC and the DigiTheatre 5.1 is the presence (or lack of) of the decoder, they've provided the decoder as an upgrade option.

However, you are absolutely correct about the DigiTheatre DTS being a completely different animal from it's DD5.1 cousin.

Thank you - and hence my original moan isn't it a pain you can't buy a DTS decoder from VL to compliment their Digitheatre LC DD5.1 only speakers? :brickwall Okay, it won't be as powerful and will have less watts per speaker, but at least it'll have DTS! That is only what I was speculating.

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Bapapapa

05-02-2002, 15:33

Originally posted by elfranko

Thank you - and hence my original moan isn't it a pain you can't buy a DTS decoder from VL to compliment their Digitheatre LC DD5.1 only speakers? :brickwall Okay, it won't be as powerful and will have less watts per speaker, but at least it'll have DTS! That is only what I was speculating.

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Unjustified moan, because the LC is primarily for DD5.1 <u>not</u> DTS.

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