Mobile Deals from Carphone Warehouse!

[maddogsuk]

8GB iPhone £99 and £30 Rental

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Deals on Apple iPhone 3G (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/commerce/servlet/gben-server-PageServer?article=MAIN.UK.INTERNET.STATIC.APPLE.APPLEIPHONE)

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Nokia Comes With Music

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Nokia 5310 Comes With Music - £129.95 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://www.carphonewarehouse.com/commerce/servlet/gben-server-PageServer?article=MAIN.UK.INTERNET.STATIC.NOK5310CWM.MAIN)

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Top 5 Pay Monthly Offers

Sony Ericsson C905 Black

The Sony Ericsson C905 mobile phone is the first slide-open handset to carry the Cyber-shot name. Its photo features include a world-class 8.1 megapixel camera, a proper Xenon flash and an auto-focus lens with face detection. Plus there's an anti-shake image stabilizer to help you avoid blurry pictures, along with built-in GPS to help you remember where you took each photo! Of course, this isn't just a camera.

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Sony Ericsson C905 black - Free handset, £35 rental (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-monthly/sony-ericsson/c905-black/)

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Nokia N96 black

The Nokia N96 mobile phone takes the impressive N95 and makes it smarter. To start with, the 5 megapixel camera is now linked with the built-in GPS mapping, letting you 'geotag' your pictures with location data. You're able to capture video in DVD-like quality - and there's compatibility with a wide range of playback formats. The Nokia N96 even has a stand on the back for handsfree viewing. Music is also well.

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Nokia N96 black - Free handst, Rental £35 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-monthly/nokia/n96-black/orange/d35pr/?TDF_BO_ONLY=N&TDF_NW_ORA=Y&ORDER=SA#nokia-n96-black)

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Sony Ericsson T303i black with FREE Sony PS3

The Sony Ericsson T303 mobile phone is a contemporary fashion phone with an affordable price tag. The slide-open design is small and slim, offering tactile curves, metal details and a mirrored display screen. It's a phone that'll look good wherever it appears.

On the back of the Sony Ericsson T303 is a 1.3 megapixel camera for photos that can be sent as picture messages to another phone or transferred by Bluetooth

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Sony Ericsson T303i black with FREE Sony PS3 - Free handset, Rental £35 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-monthly/sony-ericsson/t303i-black-with-free-sony-playstation-3/orange/d35pr/)

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Samsung Tocco pink

The Samsung Tocco Pink mobile phone is a slim handset that you'll want to touch. It has a large 2.8-inch display instead of a keypad - yet it responds by gently vibrating when you press the on-screen buttons. This is clearly no ordinary handset. In fact, it's a well-equipped multimedia device. On the back of the glossy casing is a 5 megapixel camera with auto-focus, an LED flash and image stabilisation to improve your photos

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Samsung Tocco pink - Handset Free, line rental £25.00 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-monthly/samsung/tocco-pink/t-mobile/com25/?#samsung-tocco-pink)

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LG KP500 Cookie black with FREE Nintendo Wii!

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The LG KP500's 3.0 inch wide full touch screen is more screen "real estate" to better enjoy watching videos, playing games, and looking at photos. Bigger is better and that also makes it easier to use by physical touch since larger icons are easier to navigate than smaller ones. The user interface is so intuitive that users will want to explore and master all of the functions and features

LG KP500 Cookie black with FREE Nintendo Wii! - Handset Free, Rental £35.00 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-monthly/lg/kp500-cookie-black-with-free-nintendo-wii/orange/d35pr/)

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Top 5 PAYG Handsets

Samsung U600, from £49.95 - Save £20!

The Samsung U600 Black & Gold mobile phone is one of the handsets that launched Samsung's "Ultra Edition II" range. It's intended to be one of the slimmest, most powerful and best looking mobiles around... and it delivers on all three counts. At less than 11mm deep, this is certainly a slim phone. But as you'd expect from Samsung, there's plenty going on inside the slide-open casing.

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Samsung U600 black and gold £49.95 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-as-you-go/samsung/u600-black-and-gold/)

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LG KP500 Cookie black (Pay As You Go)

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The LG KP500's 3.0 inch wide full touch screen is more screen "real estate" to better enjoy watching videos, playing games, and looking at photos. Bigger is better and that also makes it easier to use by physical touch since larger icons are easier to navigate than smaller ones. The user interface is so intuitive that users will want to explore and master all of the functions and features

LG KP500 Cookie black £99.95 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-as-you-go/lg/kp500-cookie-black/)

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Samsung J700, from £29.95 - Save £10!

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The Samsung J700 Pink mobile phone blends sleek styling with essential features, creating a high-class handset with a practical price. The reflective slide-open casing is less than 15mm deep, yet it has room for a music player and an FM radio. You'll also find a 1.3 megapixel camera for your photos and videos, along with an expandable memory for storage. In addition, mobile internet browsing

Samsung J700, from £29.95 - £29.95 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-as-you-go/samsung/j700-pink)

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Nokia 6300, from £59.95 - Save £10!

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The Nokia 6300 mobile phone has taken the traditional one-piece handset design and brought it straight into the 21st century. At first glance, you might not think that much has changed - but look again. This contemporary design is 13.1mm thin… yet the phone is still strong, thanks to a stainless steel frame. It's light as well, tipping the scales at a mere 91g.

Nokia 6300, from £59.95 - Save £10! (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-as-you-go/nokia/6300/)

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Samsung E250, from £24.95

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The Samsung E250 mobile phone shows how mobile phone technology has become more affordable in the last few years. Once, the features in this little camera phone would have commanded a premium price tag. Now, thanks to Samsung, they're available in a stylish yet affordable slide-open handset.
There's a distinct focus on music inside the E250. The phone's music player can handle MP3 and AAC files,

Samsung E250, from £24.95 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=35&url=http://shop.carphonewarehouse.com/pay-as-you-go/samsung/e250/)

[The Icebun]

I don't see how the iPhone deal is a bargain. Isn't it just the standard O2 deal ?

[jroadley]

I don't see how the iPhone deal is a bargain. Isn't it just the standard O2 deal ?

Does the o2 deal include unlimited data/wi-fi?

[davilown]

I have to say that none of these deals are very special or cheaper than anywhere else:thinking:. In some cases they are a lot more.
If looking for a new or renewing a contract, then look elsewhere and compare before buying from here!

[NVRAM]

Also not seeing anything special with these deals, keep in mind the current "credit crunch" everyone keeps commenting on, prices will be dropping as users see them as too expensive to justify and not purchasing

[The Icebun]

Does the o2 deal include unlimited data/wi-fi?

Don't all the iPhone tariffs include unlimited data and wifi ?

[bobnick]

Don't all the iPhone tariffs include unlimited data and wifi ?

Yes - and this is the standard price.

Better to get it for free on the £45 tariff and trade down to the £30 tariff a month later.

[keefe666]

Yes - and this is the standard price.

Better to get it for free on the £45 tariff and trade down to the £30 tariff a month later.

Isnt there a minimum set time of 7 months or sumut before you can go down a tariff? im not sure but i think i heard that somewhere.

but you can imeadiately go up a tariff, robbin t *****

[jimbobjoe]

O2 T&Cs section 5.15 states 9 months before you can change tariff.

[keefe666]

O2 T&Cs section 5.15 states 9 months before you can change tariff.

thought it was sumut like that, but the tosspots let ya choose a higher tariff straight away.no 9 months wait there eh :(

scandless!

[shaun]

LG KP500 Cookie black £99.95 PAYG

I'm not sure that can be bettered by a big retailer anywhere on the Net. I was looking at this phone as a present at Christmas and was going to buy off e-Bay at this price. Might get it from here now instead.

[bobnick]

O2 T&Cs section 5.15 states 9 months before you can change tariff.

If you're going to quote a term, there's no point in selectively quoting it - you should quote at least the whole sentence. You can indeed change iphone tariffs every month.

[keefe666]

If you're going to quote a term, there's no point in selectively quoting it - you should quote at least the whole sentence. You can indeed change iphone tariffs every month.

Can you post the whole terms that you have seen that contradict these terms please



PAY MONTHLY TARIFF TERMS (July 2008) Consumer Pay Monthly Tariff Terms


1. Unless you have selected a SIM Only tariff, O2 Pay Monthly is subject to status, credit-check and the terms of a 12, 18 or 24 month minimum term O2 contract. After connecting or upgrading to a minimum term contract, you’re unable to move to a lower priced Pay Monthly tariff for 9 months unless otherwise stated. After 9 months you can change tariff a maximum of once per month, provided that if moving down a tariff you can only move to the next lowest priced tariff with the same minimum term. If you move from a tariff which is not currently available you will not be able to change back to your previous tariff (this may differ for iPhone customers depending on when you connected, please check the terms stated in your iPhone contract).

[bobnick]

Can you post the whole terms that you have seen that contradict these terms please



http://www.o2.co.uk/termsconditions/iphone


PAY MONTHLY TARIFF TERMS (July 2008)
Consumer Pay Monthly Tariff Terms
General
1. ...After connecting or upgrading to a minimum term contract, you’re unable to move to a lower priced Pay Monthly tariff for 9 months unless otherwise stated.


O2 AIRTIME TERMS AND CONDITIONS FOR IPHONE CONSUMER CUSTOMERS (February 2008)
SERVICES AGREEMENT
5.15 ...You may move to another iPhone tariff at any time, provided that you may only change tariffs a maximum of once per month.

[jimbobjoe]

I originally looked up the T&Cs via the carphone warehouse website, which links to the GENERAL O2 T&Cs, which states:

5.15 If you are a Consumer Customer who has selected a tariff with a Minimum Period, you may not move to a tariff which offers a lower rate monthly subscription for the first nine months of your Minimum Period. After nine months, you may only move down one tariff per month, to the next lower-priced tariff unless you pay us the difference between the monthly subscription on your original tariff and the lower rate tariff we agree that you may move to. Where you have notified us you wish to move to the next lower tariff, unless we advise you otherwise, your new tariff will commence at the start of your next billing cycle.

But, the O2 website itself has a different set of T&Cs for the iPhone, with the same clause reading:
5.15 You may move to another iPhone tariff at any time, provided that you may only change tariffs a maximum of once per month. Changing tariffs will not affect your Minimum Period. You will not be able to move to a general O2 Pay Monthly tariff. Where you have notified us you wish to move to an alternative iPhone tariff, unless we advise otherwise, your new tariff will commence at the start of your next billing cycle.

So it looks like you get a more flexible deal if you have an iPhone than any other O2 phone. Odd.
So I wasn't 'selectively' quoting T&Cs, thank you very much Mr bobnick, I was quoting the entirely wrong set of T&Cs.



UPDATE:
Ok, I've just worked something out, I think. The first set of T&Cs are dated Feb 2008, and the second set of T&Cs came into effect in July 2008.
This was when they switched from 2G to 3G handsets. More importantly this is when they switched from selling the hadset and contract seperately to selling them combined. So I believe that now the revised set of T&Cs are in effect and you can't switch for 9 months.

[bobnick]

So I wasn't 'selectively' quoting T&Cs, thank you very much Mr bobnick, I was quoting the entirely wrong set of T&Cs.


Apologies, I was presuming you would have been directed by CPW to the main T&Cs that are on the O2 website.

Both the February and July T&Cs seem to be in place, supporting each other for iphone customers. I bought a 3G iphone from CPW, and changed down a tariff after a month or two by calling O2 - no hassles whatsoever.

[gazza]

Sorely tempted by this, however the T&C's are putting me off. Both jimbobjoe & bobnick are correct in that if you put the iphone if your basket and go through the checkout then there is a tick box to say you have read and abide by the T&C's whcih states that on a Pay monthly contract you cannot change for 9 months; however in the iphone T&C's it states you change once per month. :?:

Now I would default to the iphone T&C's as surely they are specifically aimed at the iphone tariffs, and bobnick's experience would appear to support this. But if this is true then why do they have you sign up to the others which say you cannot change for 9 months.

I think O2 will say you can change your iphone tariff once per month after nine months - but then that's not really what their T&C's say, and personally I'm probably not going to test them on it despite at least one other forum member being successful.

[jimbobjoe]

I'm due an upgrade in 3 weeks, so I'm thinking about an iPhone.
Would love to bag one cheaply on a high tarriff, and then change down, but I will talk to O2 first about the T&Cs.

My reading of the T&Cs suggests that it won't be possible, but bobnicks experience shows it could be possible.

[Hot Ice]

I'm due an upgrade in 3 weeks, so I'm thinking about an iPhone.
Would love to bag one cheaply on a high tarriff, and then change down, but I will talk to O2 first about the T&Cs.

My reading of the T&Cs suggests that it won't be possible, but bobnicks experience shows it could be possible.

Let me know how you get on. I'd like to do this too.

[patp]

I'm due an upgrade in 3 weeks, so I'm thinking about an iPhone.
Would love to bag one cheaply on a high tarriff, and then change down, but I will talk to O2 first about the T&Cs.

My reading of the T&Cs suggests that it won't be possible, but bobnicks experience shows it could be possible.

It'll be a one-off mistake. There's no way they'd allow this, otherwise everyone would just get the 16GB for free on the most expensive contract then change down. Oldest trick in the book and one the operators wised up to years ago.

[bobnick]

Well, it seems clear that that both sets of terms and conditions are in force for current connections via O2, and they can co-exist due to the "unless otherwise stated" element next to the general 9 month limit.

Print off the conditions if you're worried - if O2 were to get arsey about you changing you've got the evidence needed. More people don't take advantage because an awful lot of people either can't be bothered to read the conditions, or aren't able to understand them.

[patp]

Well, it seems clear that that both sets of terms and conditions are in force for current connections via O2, and they can co-exist due to the "unless otherwise stated" element next to the general 9 month limit.

Print off the conditions if you're worried - if O2 were to get arsey about you changing you've got the evidence needed. More people don't take advantage because an awful lot of people either can't be bothered to read the conditions, or aren't able to understand them.

I would love this to be right, cos I would get one like a shot, but until I see it done, I think I'll wait! £75 a month is a lot when you don't make many calls...

[adrianr]

When I am at the checkout stage it asks me to aggree to the follow ing T&C (dated July 2008). If after a couple of months I called o2 to downgraded tariffs could I quote the Feb 2008 T&C as its live on the o2 site when I agreed to July 2008 T&C's?


5.15 If you are a Consumer Customer who has selected a tariff with a Minimum Period, you may not move to a tariff which offers a lower rate monthly subscription for the first nine months of your Minimum Period. After nine months, you may only move down one tariff per month, to the next lower-priced tariff unless you pay us the difference between the monthly subscription on your original tariff and the lower rate tariff we agree that you may move to. Where you have notified us you wish to move to the next lower tariff, unless we advise you otherwise, your new tariff will commence at the start of your next billing cycle.

[gazza]

When I am at the checkout stage it asks me to aggree to the follow ing T&C (dated July 2008). If after a couple of months I called o2 to downgraded tariffs could I quote the Feb 2008 T&C as its live on the o2 site when I agreed to July 2008 T&C's?


5.15 If you are a Consumer Customer who has selected a tariff with a Minimum Period, you may not move to a tariff which offers a lower rate monthly subscription for the first nine months of your Minimum Period. After nine months, you may only move down one tariff per month, to the next lower-priced tariff unless you pay us the difference between the monthly subscription on your original tariff and the lower rate tariff we agree that you may move to. Where you have notified us you wish to move to the next lower tariff, unless we advise you otherwise, your new tariff will commence at the start of your next billing cycle.

I got to the same stage and though the same thing, respect to bobnick for achieving this but I'm going to shy away :cry:

[adrianr]

'gazza'

just to let you know I ordered over the phone direct from o2 and they agreed to the changing tariffs after just one month (not nine), I directed the operator to the website terms and conditions and his manager agreed to them. Didn't risk the £75 p/month, but £45 p/month for one month changing to a cheaper one in december and if they have a better tariff in December / January hopefully I will change to that.

[patp]

'gazza'

just to let you know I ordered over the phone direct from o2 and they agreed to the changing tariffs after just one month (not nine), I directed the operator to the website terms and conditions and his manager agreed to them. Didn't risk the £75 p/month, but £45 p/month for one month changing to a cheaper one in december and if they have a better tariff in December / January hopefully I will change to that.

Much respect for giving it a go, I wish you well, and do let us know how it goes. Did you record the call where they told you you could change down?

[Hot Ice]

'gazza'

just to let you know I ordered over the phone direct from o2 and they agreed to the changing tariffs after just one month (not nine), I directed the operator to the website terms and conditions and his manager agreed to them. Didn't risk the £75 p/month, but £45 p/month for one month changing to a cheaper one in december and if they have a better tariff in December / January hopefully I will change to that.

Fair play fella! Hope it works out well.

[adrianr]

I wish I had gone for the £75 contract now getting the white 16GB!!

interesting to see O2 have changed there terms and conditions page separating the 2G and 3G contracts, the operator checked the website and made a note on my account so I am able to downgrade contracts after one month ! but since they have corrected the page.

[davey1970]

Much respect for giving it a go, I wish you well, and do let us know how it goes. Did you record the call where they told you you could change down?

if you didnt record the phone, phone and ask for confirmation by email.

i have been caught out too many times, and i've been told they only keep recorded calls for 6 months..

along with virgin media, everything i discuss with o2 gets either recorded or emailed to me.

d

[adrianr]

yes its recorded on my answering machine !!!