frighteners Special Edition

[saltysam]

cannot believe this has not appeared on dvd yet,especially with peter jackson being flavour of the month right now.it appeared on laserdisc years ago so all the elements are there,would really like to see the directors cut of this great movie.

[john316]

Originally posted by saltysam
cannot believe this has not appeared on dvd yet,especially with peter jackson being flavour of the month right now.it appeared on laserdisc years ago so all the elements are there,would really like to see the directors cut of this great movie.

The Frightners is already out on DVD - don't count on it getting re-released thought with an anamorhpic pic though!

[Hernster]

I've heard about the proposed DVD as well.

I would just assume that we are gonna have to wait until PJ has some free time!

[Shaun666]

AS above

[William Shatners Wig]

<b>The Making Of The Frighteners</b> 4.5 hours documentary that was on the laserdisc would be a worthy release on it's own.... not to mention the 12mins of additional footage, the Peter Jackson audio commentary, the deleted scenes and the blooper reel.

[BlueDwarf]

Isn't there a spec ed Laserdisc that they can just whack on DVD?

{edit**

too slow!

[Hernster]

I think this is a case of 'Rights - Issues'.

:(

[DrPhobus]

With the increase in popularity of DVD’s I think its only a mater of time before we get this DVD I cant be the only one who has a limited budget and will only go for the best packages about at the moment as many films are getting some good updates

[KeyserSoze]

Originally posted by William Shatners Wig
<b>The Making Of The Frighteners</b> 4.5 hours documentary that was on the laserdisc would be a worthy release on it's own

:nuts:

is this for real ?

4.5 hours ?

that is one big documentary, a little more than a 'feature length one' !

[Dave Lawrence]

http://www.horrordvds.com/reviews/a-m/frighteners-ld/

[Joe91]

Originally posted by KeyserSoze


:nuts:

is this for real ?

4.5 hours ?

that is one big documentary, a little more than a 'feature length one' !
Yes, and don't forget that Universal cut more than half of the excellent 'Jaws' laserdisc documentary, and that was only 2 hours to start with :(

[KeyserSoze]

Originally posted by Dave Lawrence
http://www.horrordvds.com/reviews/a-m/frighteners-ld/

wow, that makes me wanna get a LD player !!!



and about Jaws, thats a shame was pretty close to buying it in the last sale, do you think they will re-release with full docu ?

[dvdfan10]

I already got this movie im glad i got it and still like it i wander if micheal j fox and company will make part 2 i would like to see this one in theater ?

nobody took me to see the first im glad i saw it on vhs but i like it on disc better i know yall do to on disc?

[BlueDwarf]

Originally posted by dvdfan10
I already got this movie im glad i got it and still like it i wander if micheal j fox and company will make part 2 i would like to see this one in theater ?

nobody took me to see the first im glad i saw it on vhs but i like it on disc better i know yall do to on disc?


It's one of the few VHSs I've rented out and watched twice, and it's definitely one of the dvds I'd keep if I had to trim my (admittedly meagre) collection down to the "bare bones".

[KeyserSoze]

Originally posted by dvdfan10
I already got this movie im glad i got it and still like it i wander if micheal j fox and company will make part 2 i would like to see this one in theater ?

nobody took me to see the first im glad i saw it on vhs but i like it on disc better i know yall do to on disc?

excellent :clap:

DVDfan10, you truely are a legend !

[saltysam]

yes,i know about the dvd ,i have the region 1 but it is the directors cut i want to see!

[Madm@tt]

iwould love seethis on disc, thedoc I meaning cause ithink it wold be reel good to see it I never seen it will it be out soon you think cause of lotr or will they cash in at the end of the trilogy i dont know i just want it yall know?


But even I cannot beat the mastery of DVDFan10... *sigh*:rolleyes: ;)

[Hex]

Originally posted by Dave Lawrence
http://www.horrordvds.com/reviews/a-m/frighteners-ld/

Drool http://www.hex.34sp.com/sml/drool.gif

[Jowser]

Not sure about you lot, but i've gone to the universal studios site and whined about them releasing it.

Fed up of waiting. Besides, customer begging got Willy Wonka re-released in Widescreen, so lets see if we can get this out.

[KeyserSoze]

get a petition running ?

[Montevideo]

Just emailed Universal as well. Hope enough people do the same and it happens...

I couldn't get the link to the petition to work though
:(

[Jowser]

"Has anyone heard about a new Directors Cut Special Edition of this film due out in R1 in Dec 2002?

The Frighteners Directors Cut DVD (http://www.tsc-dvd.be/dvddetail.php?dvd_detail=FRIGHTENERS) "


Thanks to ebony.branch for the initial information. I hope we get the full LaserDisc info.

Who knows, maybe my e-mail to Universal helped (seriously doubt it though, i am happy enough if it is true)

[jonathan.e]

The Sp Ed is one of the highest priced laserdiscs on EBay - regularly goes for hundreds of dollars. As in http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1511712468

BTW R2 DVD is only £9.99 at Play. Worth picking up until the Sp Ed materialises.

[RichB]

BTW R2 DVD is only £9.99 at Play. Worth picking up until the Sp Ed materialises

I can't agree, it's cut and non-anamorphic
R1 is uncut and boasts an anamorphic transfer

[Marv]

Da DA:

http://www.play.com/play247.asp?page=title&r=R2&title=702386&p=44&g=59&pa=gencs

[MrFurious]

not much details but fingers crossed it will have the same features as the laserdisc,cant wait,very underrated film :thumbs:

[Captain_Howdy666]

If that's uncut with the 4.5 hour docu then it's about time. And expected with the release of King Kong.

[MrFurious]

yeah,bring it on dts track for the score too.
i thought it would have been released around the time of lotr but hell at least king kong will do some good.

[Captain_Howdy666]

yeah,bring it on dts track for the score too.
i thought it would have been released around the time of lotr but hell at least king kong will do some good.


LoTR is a New Line release. It makes sense to release a new Frighteners DVD when King Kong is available as they're both owned by Universal.

[George vader]

Please, please, please be the MEGA special edition....

[William Shatners Wig]

The extra 12 minutes in the Director's Cut are priceless too, especially as they give quite a bit of extra information on the legendary Stammers; not to mention extended shots of PJ's heavily pierced on-screen appearance.

The laser disc had:

<li>Running audio commentary by director Peter Jackson
<li>The Making of The Frighteners, an original full-length 4½-hour documentary on the making of the film written, directed and produced by Peter Jackson, featuring featuring interviews with Michael J. Fox, Trini Alvarado, Dee Wallace Stone, Jake Busey, Jim Fyfe and Chi McBride
Including:
Rehearsing
Storyboarding
Miniatures
Extensive exploration of the special effects, motion control and bluescreens.
<li>Deleted Scenes
<li>Bloopers
<li>Theatrical Trailer

I hope these all make it, especially the 4.5h doc and the bloopers (Michael J Fox suddenly calling The Judge 'Doc' made me laugh).

[Captain_Howdy666]

I've gota copy of the laserdisc version, but the quality is ****. The documentary is totally engrossing though. Sat down to check something on the disc for a guy I know and ended up watching it for 40 mins.

[BlueDwarf]

This is good news.

[Celtic]

here is an online petition for it !!! A bit late ...but hopefully it will help force them to consider putting the aforementioned stuff on the DVD :O)

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/frighteners

[allan]

I've seen the documentary, and it never gets boring, as mentioned by captain_howdy, I tried to skim through and ended up watching the whole thing.

[Cockeye]

Being a natural cynic, I cannot believe that this will be what we all want with everything included. But i can dream, i suppose!

Remember when DVD debate put a supposed release date of this on their site about eighteen months ago? Unfortunately, that was a hoax.

[allan]

Being a natural cynic, I cannot believe that this will be what we all want with everything included. But i can dream, i suppose!

Remember when DVD debate put a supposed release date of this on their site about eighteen months ago? Unfortunately, that was a hoax.

They actually re-released the current version not long ago, with only an updated cover informing people that it was "directed by oscar winner Peter Jackson" or words to that effect. A full blown special edition, just like the laserdisc wouldn't exactly cost much to produce, as all the material is already there, just a case of mastering it and creating some menus.

[animatedude]

omg!! i was really thinking that the special edition will be out in the 10th anniversry year which is next year but seeing it's coming even sooner is just GREAT! :notworthy

[Marv]

if they could give use a 3 disc digi pack that would be fantastic.

[Pentasa]

There is a Frighteners Dir. Cut Sig. Collection LD Laser Disc for sale on ebay atm , think the bid is sitting at $20

[allan]

There is a Frighteners Dir. Cut Sig. Collection LD Laser Disc for sale on ebay atm , think the bid is sitting at $20

You got anything to play it on? :doh:

[Captain_Howdy666]

I reckon it'd be worth picking up even if you don't.

[Pentasa]

You got anything to play it on? :doh:

Yeah 2 Laserdisc players, but why would I want another copy ? I already own that particular laserdisc :p

[drush9999]

Universal is releasing The Frighteners Director's Cut in Region 1 on November 29th (http://www.dvdanswers.com/index.php?r=0&s=1&c=7360&n=1&burl=)

Unfortunately it is only one disc, so might be missing the 4 hour documentary :oh-hum:

[MrFurious]

Proberly Just Have The Extra Few Scenes And No Extras Then,maybe A Wasted Oppertunity

[anephric]

What a joke.

[mr_woo]

Are Universal taking the **** or what!

I've been waiting for ages in the hope that Frighteners would be re-released with the documentary and it seems like they just dont want to do it, despite the fact it's easy money!

Idiots :oh-hum:

[anephric]

Someone at Universal must still have shares in laserdisc.

[BlueDwarf]

More like a special needs edition.
Waste of bloody time.

[Hernster]

Nah, there'll be another SE of this a few months after this new one, probably with the 4 hour docu, just to **** people off. :)

[William Shatners Wig]

Christ! You people just want any excuse to grab your pitch forks and head for the castle. This hasn't even been announced yet. DVD Answers and the other news sites are taking their info from Universal's retail site that has added some brief info about the upcoming release.

Unfortunately whilst making a big thing over it being on one disc they all failed to mention that the site also states that the package will contain a DVD-18 (double-sided and dual-layer on both sides), so there's plenty of room for the movie and the doc.

Don't jump to conclusions yet.

[Hernster]

Thanks!

[BlueDwarf]

Unfortunately whilst making a big thing over it being on one disc they all failed to mention that the site also states that the package will contain a DVD-18 (double-sided and dual-layer on both sides), so there's plenty of room for the movie and the doc.

Don't jump to conclusions yet.

Be off with you and your sensible reasoning!

But wait - one dual side disc will mean no disc art.
I say we still BURN THEM!

[Reno]

Christ! You people just want any excuse to grab your pitch forks and head for the castle. This hasn't even been announced yet. DVD Answers and the other news sites are taking their info from Universal's retail site that has added some brief info about the upcoming release.

Unfortunately whilst making a big thing over it being on one disc they all failed to mention that the site also states that the package will contain a DVD-18 (double-sided and dual-layer on both sides), so there's plenty of room for the movie and the doc.

Don't jump to conclusions yet.

Isn't the other side generally reserved for the 4:3 version in the States ? I'm grabbing my torch. ;)

[Psycho]

You never know, they might do a 1 disc version and a limited 2 disc version in a special box set, etc! :)

I've not seen this film and will pick this set up. Is the 4hr doc really that good? I can't really see how you can have a 4hr doc! :eek:

What's on it? Is it just about this film or about his others?

Psycho :nuts:

[anephric]

Christ! You people just want any excuse to grab your pitch forks and head for the castle. This hasn't even been announced yet. DVD Answers and the other news sites are taking their info from Universal's retail site that has added some brief info about the upcoming release.

Unfortunately whilst making a big thing over it being on one disc they all failed to mention that the site also states that the package will contain a DVD-18 (double-sided and dual-layer on both sides), so there's plenty of room for the movie and the doc.

Don't jump to conclusions yet.

If it is a P&S jobbie on t'other side, I'm rounding up the peasants and knocking on the door of your condo castle.

Leaping Lizards! Yes, we have those.

[drush9999]

Christ! You people just want any excuse to grab your pitch forks and head for the castle. This hasn't even been announced yet. DVD Answers and the other news sites are taking their info from Universal's retail site that has added some brief info about the upcoming release.

Unfortunately whilst making a big thing over it being on one disc they all failed to mention that the site also states that the package will contain a DVD-18 (double-sided and dual-layer on both sides), so there's plenty of room for the movie and the doc.

Don't jump to conclusions yet.

I forgot Universal's like for dvd-18, probably will be very good news indeed :thumbs:

[Captain_Howdy666]

Is the 4hr doc really that good? I can't really see how you can have a 4hr doc! :eek:


The documentary is fantastic, I've got a laserdisc rip of it and while I've not watched it all, I had to check something near the end of it for a friend of mine, I ended up watching it for about 40 mins. It really does grab you and pull you in. Totally engrossing and well worth watching.

[Jez]

Both dvd times and dvd answers have the cover art and mention 4hr of bouns.


Universal Studios Home Video have announced the Region 1 DVD release of The Frighteners Director's Cut for 29th November 2005 priced at $26.98 SRP. After years of campaigning Universal are finally giving fans what they want, the director's cut edition of Peter Jackson's horror-comedy starring Michael J. Fox - The Frighteners.

Running 2hrs 3minutes the director's cut will be presented in 2.35:1 Anamorphic Widescreen with English DD5.1 Surround audio and optional English, French and Spanish subtitles. Released on a single DVD18 Universal's promotional details say we can expect over 4 hours of bonus features. Expect full specs soon...


Title: The Frighteners
Starring: Michael J. Fox
Released: 29th November 2005
SRP: $26.98

Further Details
Universal has announced a director's cut release of The Frighteners which stars Michael J. Fox, Trini Alvarado, John Astin and Jeffrey Combs. This single-disc special edition will be available to own from the 29th November this year, and should set you back around $26.98. I'm afraid we have no word on the extra material for this one yet, but we can confirm the feature runtime of 2 hours and 3 minutes. The film itself will be presented in 2.35:1 anamorphic widescreen, along with an English Dolby Digital 5.1 Surround track. The set itself will include over four hours of material, produced by Peter Jackson himself. Further details to follow shortly. For now though, here's an early look at the official region one package artwork:


I really want this to include the documentary which sounds facsinating and i aint got a laserdisk player :(

[animatedude]

i do have feelings that they will include some of that documentry but not all of it.

[anephric]

"Four hours of extras" - does that include commentary? Prolly.

[staffyman]

i do have feelings that they will include some of that documentry but not all of it.

Yeah, it took two goes around for Universal to give us the full Jaws Docco. If it isn't the full docco, maybe I'd be better off skipping this 'Special Edition' and waiting for the 'Ultimate Edition' that'll be sure to follow... ;)

Still, I think the fact that I love this film, don't own a dvd copy of it yet, and am intrigued about the Director's Cut, will be enough for me to get it..

[Njål]

"Four hours of extras" - does that include commentary? Prolly.
It didn't on the laserdisc set, ~4 hours of video material:

Special features:
- Feature commentary with director
- THE MAKING OF THE FRIGHTENERS, an original full-length documentary on
the making of the film directed by PETER JACKSON and featuring interviews
with MICHAEL J. FOX, TRINI ALVARADO, DEE WALLACE STONE, JAKE BUSEY,
JIM FYFE and CHI MCBRIDE.
Incuding:
- Rehearsing.
- Storyboarding.
- Miniatures.
- Extensive exploartion of the special effects,
motion control and bluescreens.
- Deleted Scenes.
- Bloopers.
- Theatrical trailer.
The chapters breakdown on the laserdisc:
1. Ghost Sories
2. Script Development
3. Storyboarding
4. Michael J. Fox and Trini Alvarado
5. Jim Fyfe, Chi McBride, John Astin
6. Rehearsing
7. Lyttelton as Fairwater
8. Introduction to WETA
9. Scene 28
10. Ghost Effects
11. Motion Control and Bluescreen
12 The Jackson Boys.
Peter's cameo & Billy Jackson.
13. Stunts
14. On the Set
15. The Reaper
16. Rustler
17. The Gatekeeper
18. Jeffrey Combs
19. Miniatures
20. Dee Wallace Stone and Jake Busey
21. Trini's Bruises
22. Slime Face and Blobman
23. Wallpaperman and Carpetman
24. Acceleration..
25. The Worm
26. The Gatekeeper, The Judge & Other Deleted Stories
27. Music
28. Bloopers
29. Ratings and Final Thoughts
30. Credits

[anephric]

BUT: dvd hyperbole usually includes the commentary running time as part of the "hours" of extras...

[Jez]

Dvd times with some more info:


The Frighteners Director's Cut (R1) in November - Extras revealed
Universal Studios Home Video have announced the Region 1 DVD release of The Frighteners Director's Cut for 29th November 2005 priced at $26.98 SRP. After years of campaigning Universal are finally giving fans what they want, the director's cut edition of Peter Jackson's horror-comedy starring Michael J. Fox - The Frighteners.

Running 2hrs 3minutes the director's cut will be presented in 2.35:1 Anamorphic Widescreen with English DD5.1 Surround audio and optional English, French and Spanish subtitles. Released on a single DVD18 with over four hours of extras including feature commentary with Director Peter Jackson, The Making of The Frighteners documentary, Storyboards and Theatrical Trailer


Still not sure if it means the 4hr documentry off the laserdisk i wonna see so much :(

[BenH]

I am soo excited about this and am hoping it's everything it could/should be. one of my most wanted titles by a long way....Please don't screw it up Universal

[rwoolst]

Released on a single DVD18
well that's enough to put me off buying, I've had enough of these Universal double sided discs, I had yet more problems last night when I attempted to watch my R1 Casino AE, will wait for the R2 SE due 5/12

[Jabbitt]

If you look at these menu screen shots (http://img-tbhl.theonering.net/public_html/attachments/frightnersdcrall3.jpg), it looks like the narrated story boards has been moved to side A.

Then again, if done correctly that section wouldn't take up much space anyway. The LD version would require a video section due to the narration where as the dvd version could/should be a slideshow with narration soundtrack.

[Jez]

Wouldnt that mean the the The Making of The Frighteners has a whole side to itself. Also that menu screen shot showing chapters, surely that means it must be pretty long.

Does this mean the laserdisk 4hr doc is on the other side, would it fit on one side on its own?

[Ian M]

4 hour documentary you ask?

...oh yes sir!!

http://tbhl.theonering.net/index.shtml

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

[KeyserSoze]

ta da ! result.

I think they learnt something after re-releasing Jaws.

[JimDriver2]

To throw a spanner in the works, the BBFC listings don't confirm that the R1 will get the doc...

[anephric]

What's that 3-disc French SE? Do they get the DC AND the regular cut?

[Cockeye]

Not according to my sources.

The first two discs will contain the same as our double sided version and the third disc will be a soundtrack.

[anephric]

I wish I had sources :( Even just fruity ones.

[Njål]

Not according to my sources.

The first two discs will contain the same as our double sided version and the third disc will be a soundtrack.
Might have to pick up the French release for the soundtrack. :thinking:

[cedge]

Any update on the specifications yet, I can't wait for this release!

I hope that doc is included, it sounds Ace!

[neeek]

The Directors cut has been passed uncut for a 15 by the BBFC:

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/ClassifiedWorks/FE11F33546AFFE12802570960034AFBE?OpenDocument

[anephric]

The UK set has also been announced as three disc, and both theatrical and director's cuts have been certified by the BBFC - which means we either get a branching version on one disc with the soundtrack bundled or a disc for each cut and the third for the doc'n'stuff.

http://www.zetaminor.com/whatsnew.htm

[KeyserSoze]

Check this out guys

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=239395&perpage=30&display=&pagenumber=5

Looks like a nice release and everyones exciting but is the movie actuallyany good ? :nuts:

[Jez]

Yeah its a wicked little film :thumbs:

Very underrated imo :clap:

So is the 4hr doc on it then?

[anephric]

Check this out guys

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/htforum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=239395&perpage=30&display=&pagenumber=5

Looks like a nice release and everyones exciting but is the movie actuallyany good ? :nuts:

So if the German set's got a 4-disc spec (with both cuts commanding a whole disc and 2 discs for extras), does the UK 3-disc spec mean we'll get *shiver* a branched version?

[KeyserSoze]

Or the 3rd disc could be a flipper.

[anephric]

Didn't think Universal did DVD18s in R2.

[the thing with no name]

ahhhhhhhhhhh - where do i order this from? Using the sainsburys offer thing i can order the R2 3 disc for about £11.48, but i don't want to go ahead and order if there is no clear evidence this is the best version

[KeyserSoze]

Didn't think Universal did DVD18s in R2.

oh right. Hmm what do you have against branching ? Or are you thinking its going to be *shudders even more*'integrated branching' ?

[anephric]

I've never had a player that was anything like "seamless" (although my current Panny's not bad). Indeed, my old Tosh shuddered when playing past anything that had branching points, whether you followed them or not.

[FlangeMonkey]

My Pioneer DV-575 and my Medion MD40814 both play "seamless" discs seamlessly. Another cheap supermarket Chinese one I used to have (a Compacks) with a Mediatek chipset inside wouldn't however...I'd get layer-change-esque pauses at each branch-point.

[DeadWalk]

Not sure if this has been posted already but the BBFC have cleared 5 documentaries, each in excess of 50 mins, going by the titles of The Frighteners - Master Reels (1-5). There are also a couple of 'introductions' (only a few minutes each) that have been classified too. The Director's Cut has been passed uncut.

[Jabbitt]

Not sure if this has been posted already but the BBFC have cleared 5 documentaries, each in excess of 50 mins, going by the titles of The Frighteners - Master Reels (1-5). There are also a couple of 'introductions' (only a few minutes each) that have been classified too. The Director's Cut has been passed uncut.

I just had another look, and it seems we are getting everything. I assume were getting both the Theatrical and Directors cut (& commentary) via seamless branching (there are video introductions to each) as well as the complete 4.5 hour documentary (which also has a new video introduction listed at the BBFC).

Assuming it is seamless branching, have Universal done any branching DVDs before?

[anephric]

The German R2 (which I've been pondering buying) has 4 discs and no seamless, if anyone's interested. I wonder why?

[animatedude]

well...according to play.com, the UK version has been delayed to late December.

Play.com (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http%3A//www.play.com/play247.asp%3Fpage%3Dtitle%26r%3DR2%26title%3D702386%26p%3D57%26g%3D72%26pa%3Dsr)

[Mattvert11]

So what's the deal now.
I emailed CD-WOW to ask if they were stocking the releases. They said NO!

I also found out that Austrailia R4 is a 3-disc release on December 7th.

What releases will contain the 4 hour doco??

[JimDriver2]

the R1 is still at a decent price at DVDPacific.

I'm trying to decide whether or order it or not. I've not seen the film, but given its PJ and the strength of opinions people are giving on here im tempted.

[Jez]

Its a very good film Jim imo, take the chance and blame me if you dont like it :D

[JimDriver2]

Ok ordered! I presumed that was a blame you in the sense of "full refund will be offered" ;)

[anephric]

If you don't think it's fun there's something very wrong with you :p

[the thing with no name]

is there any agreement on best region?
is the full docu going to be on R1 as well as R2?
Does the R1 only incl the directors cut? or does it have both like the R2?
Is the german 4 disc the best one to get?
Seamless branching or not?
DVD18 or 3 disc set

aaarrrrrrrggggghhhhhhh!!!!!!

(on top of my panic, the Sainsburys £5 off £15 offer has gone, so my £11.48 price window for the R2 version has gone :()

[JimDriver2]

If you don't think it's fun there's something very wrong with you :p

Harsh, coming from you... :razz:

[Boink!]

is there any agreement on best region?
is the full docu going to be on R1 as well as R2?
Does the R1 only incl the directors cut? or does it have both like the R2?
Is the german 4 disc the best one to get?
Seamless branching or not?
DVD18 or 3 disc set

My questions too.

[kanedaa]

R2 Details on DVDTimes (http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=59188)

I'd say forgot the R1 DVD18 nonsense, and wait for the 3-disc R2.

[animatedude]

awsome news!

[the thing with no name]

still no definitve answer though - the announcement doesn't say if only one version or both (branching) is on the R2 - are the docu's on two discs? or just on 1 with both versions on seperate discs.
I await more news before deciding which version to go for.

[anephric]

Almost every other version has the extras spread over two discs (a la the JPN R2).

The only set that conclusively is non-branching would be the German 4-discer.

[Cockeye]

OK, bee told I can have one more dvd for christmas, so have chosen this one.

Can't believe that the R2 is being released on boxing day, though!

So, is there any non flipper version, uncut, being released anywhere in the world before christmas? And where can I get it from?

Thanks in advance.

[gazman999]

Is it not possible the R1 has exactly the same specs; such as the R1 has the Theatrical and Director's cut on one side with seemless branching (with the doc on side B) while the R2 has the Theatrical and Director's cut on seperate disks and the doc on disk 3?

[Julian K]

I'm told that the R2 version has the film on one disc, and the bonus features split across the other two. Mind you, this is from the PR company that didn't mention that the new disc would be the Director's Cut, and didn't mention that it would be uncut, so until I get discs in my hands, I'm taking everything with a pinch of salt!

[anephric]

So, is there any non flipper version, uncut, being released anywhere in the world before christmas? And where can I get it from?


The German R2 reckons it's being released (so it whispered to me) on 1st December.

http://shop.dtm.at/product_info.php?products_id=28661

[the thing with no name]

wow - had a look at wether or not this company ship to the UK and they seem to, but i had to use babelfish to translate the details (which is strange, as all other shipping details e.g. Germany or Austria have english sections, but not international shipping :?: )(and yes, i did press the british flag first)
They seem to want some amount sent to a specific bank account first or something? Why not just use CC details like everyone else?
Amazon.de are not listing this yet (or mediadis.com), but if/when they do, sounds a safer bet to get from them.

[anephric]

I've used D&T loads and they've been fine with my credit card every time. I think you just need to select the correct payment method.

[the thing with no name]

thanks anephric - i'll keep them in mind - odd way to set up the shipping help if thats the case though - so what is the correct payment method? :thumbs:

[EvaUnit02]

I'm hoping that R2 or R4 will be identical to the R1, those bloody dual-sided discs don't play properly in my player.

[TUCKERS]

I've used D&T loads and they've been fine with my credit card every time. I think you just need to select the correct payment method.

I've just been on their site but couldn't work out the postage cost to the UK. Can you please tell me how much it would cost to send The Frighteners 4 disc DVD?

[anephric]

8 Euros. Worth ordering something else with it, tbh.

[pbenstead]

German version now available on CD WOW for £13.49 with affiliated link

CD-Wow.com (50p off!) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561)

[captaineyecatch]

German version now available on CD WOW for £13.49 with affiliated link

CD-Wow.com (50p off!) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561)

Nice one - just ordered it :thumbs:

[Cockeye]

strange. searched for it before i read this thread and it didn't show up.

Searched again, and now it is there!

[Jez]

Sorry for the dumb question but why the german verion have 4 disk and no other region has?

[Julian K]

I believe the fourth disc in the German set is the theatrical version.

[krayzk]

Am I missing anything by going for this German 4 disc set, Is it the same as the Unrated R1 DC? :?:
£13.50 for a 4 disc set of The Frighteners just seems too good to be true! :eek:
My mouse is poised over the confirm button!!!
Cheers :thumbs:
Kevin

[Julian K]

Am I missing anything by going for this German 4 disc set

It doesn't look like the German set has a DTS track.

It's too early to say how the German / UK / US editions compare in absolute detail.

[KeyserSoze]

To those people who have seen the Theatrical and Director's cuts, is it worth owning both versions ?

[Rag]

I take it that the german version will be in english? No details on the cd-wow page

[stfa]

The German Director´s Cut will have DTS, will be in English, will not be cut, will be a Digipak, will have tons of different subtiles, and will not be German dubbed.

[djnation]

To those people who have seen the Theatrical and Director's cuts, is it worth owning both versions ?

IMO once you've seen the director's cut you'll only want to watch that version again (the theatrical cut is still a fine film though).

[Rag]

The German Director´s Cut will have DTS, will be in English, will not be cut, will be a Digipak, will have tons of different subtiles, and will not be German dubbed.

Thanks - i will be ordering this later!

[anephric]

Ta for that - gone for the German R2 at CD-Wow.

[spookford]

Any reason not to go for the R4 out on 7th Dec? Is anyone ordering this and where is the cheapest/best place (if it is a digipak who ships in boxes rather than jiffy bags)?

[tezmo]

thanks stfa - gone with the german set too :)

[Boink!]

Ordered the German set from CD-Wow. The number of times I nearly spent silly money on the laserdisc box set, this makes up for it all. Thanks folks, my xmas present to myself is sorted. :D

EDIT my other half has mentioned she will buy this for me for Xmas. :clap: I think this means she's falling behind with my prezzy allocation for this Xmas... :suspect:

[BigH]

nice one - another one here gone for the German 4-disc

[stfa]

Any reason not to go for the R4 out on 7th Dec?
Even though, the Region 4 will be a 3-Disc set the Director´s Cut will be on a DVD-18 disc. Possibly, with seamless branching. However, this hasn´t been confirmed, though.

[KeyserSoze]

If its a DVD-18 then maybe T cut on one side, DC on the other and docu + extras on other 2 DVDs ?

hey stfa, how do you know these details ?

[stfa]

If its a DVD-18 then maybe T cut on one side, DC on the other and docu + extras on other 2 DVDs ?

hey stfa, how do you know these details ?
Because I´m a the DVD Master. :lol: Just kidding.

Yes, your breakdown seem very plausible. Well, I did a search on Google Australia, and spotted some post where the aussies talk about this matter. It´s the only way R4 could cram all that info down on 3 discs. It´s very likely that R2/R4 will have the same content. That´s why I pre-ordered the German 4-Disc.

I know the R1 will be a DVD-18. If I´m not mistaken DVD-18 are not all that reliable.

[loujareth]

Good old DVD forums, knew I would get the right info if I put the seach in. Great to see this at last as well, got it for hubbies xmas pressy.

[Cockeye]

ARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!

It's gone from CD Wow! :(

[tezmo]

ARRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!

It's gone from CD Wow! :(

nope, still there...CD-Wow.com (50p off!) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http%3A//www.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2.php%3Fproduct_code%3D23199%26subcat%3Dregion2^QA^affid=15561)

[Cockeye]

Well, it was interesting because I rang them up in a blind panic about this.

I was using their search facility and it was saying that it didn't exist. I tried it three times whilst on the phone with them with the same results.

However, it showed up with them and they placed an order over the phone.

very helpful!

[charlie angel]

Thanks chaps, have ordered the German version as well :)

[KeyserSoze]

Never trust Cd-wow search system. I tend to get results that dont even contain the word im searching for.

[Hernster]

Never trust Cd-wow search system. I tend to get results that dont even contain the word im searching for.

It's awful isn't it!

A search on the adult dvd section always brings up the Fantastic Four movie. :lol:

[JimDriver2]

My R1 was shipped by DVDPacific last night. Should be here in at least 10 days time.

[William Shatners Wig]

Bargain!! Ordered myself the German DVD at CD Wow too. Happy Xmas Chris :D.

[Cockeye]

Yeah, I am really chuffed.

Me Nan, who hasn't got much money came to me and said what do you want for christmas?

I said oooh, thanks. theres a four disc set of the frighteners out. Family went:

"You can't ask for a four disc set! She can't afford that!"

Whe I told them 13.99 it was ordered straight away.

I just hope they actually get stock!

[cedge]

Wont the German version be in well German or can you turn the subtitles off?

[The Bear]

Cheers all. Gone for the German 4-discer for £12.99 at CDWOW (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http%3A//www.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2.php%3Fproduct_code%3D23199%26subcat%3Dregion2^QA^affid=15561)

(Hope it's okay to use the forums affiliate link with one for £1 off?)

[Jez]

Cheers all. Gone for the German 4-discer for £12.99 at CDWOW (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http%3A//www.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2.php%3Fproduct_code%3D23199%26subcat%3Dregion2^QA^affid=15561)

(Hope it's okay to use the forums affiliate link with one for £1 off?)

Nope they will cancel it :(

[William Shatners Wig]

Really? That's silly. As most people Googling or MSNing the set will click via an affiliate of some kind, and wouldn't realise that they couldn't use the £1 of coupons.

[stfa]

Wont the German version be in well German or can you turn the subtitles off?
Don´t worry. All will in English. Go back in the thread and read. ;)

[Jez]

I was wondering that surely the massive doc will have german subs......burnt in? :eek:

[Richie]

Thanks for the info stfa! Can I ask how you confirmed all this?
I've also ordered the 4 disc German version from CD-Wow.com (50p off!) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561)

[Richie]

OH just had a thought! Does this film have any on-screen captions? PLEASE tell me that they won't be player generated (if it does have any)!?

[stfa]

Thanks for the info stfa! Can I ask how you confirmed all this?
I've also ordered the 4 disc German version from CD-Wow.com (50p off!) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561)
Well, I read on Universal-pictures.de, and in a German forum where someone had called them up to confirm it. So, I rely on the person were telling the truth.

[Richie]

ok, cool! :thumbs:

[The Bear]

Nope they will cancel it :(I don't see why as it's only using the £1 off not the forums 50p too - You can't combine link discounts. Will they cancel it because they know that the affiliate isn't allowed that much discount or something?

I just wanted to affiliate the discount link that's all.

[Alan b]

I just wanted to affiliate the discount link that's all.

You can not go through our affiliate link, (where prices are already discounted by 50p) and use another voucher and you can not affiliate a link that is already discounted.

Now that is sorted, no more talk of discount vouchers please.

[zantarous]

Saw this years ago and didn’t really find it all that great (way before I knew who Jackson was) but in recent years I really wanted to see it again as Fox is always a delight to watch. 4 discs for £13.99 can't get better then that with DTS as well.

[KeyserSoze]

My dad was saying that Fox is clear of symptoms of Parkins now, is this true ?

Would be great to see him back on our screens.

[zantarous]

Just had a thought is the DTS track likely to be in German? Will everything have English subs as well?

[Richie]

from page 7 of this thread:
The German Director´s Cut will have DTS, will be in English, will not be cut, will be a Digipak, will have tons of different subtiles, and will not be German dubbed.

[zantarous]

Thanks Richie I am such a moron I even read that page I must have completely missed that.

My dad was saying that Fox is clear of symptoms of Parkins now, is this true ?

Would be great to see him back on our screens.

Nothing about that on the Fox foundation page sadly.

http://www.michaeljfox.org/

[MrFurious]

ok, im a little confuzed now,i have the r1 on order,but from reading this thread it seems the german version is the one to go for??dts etc

[KeyserSoze]

I think people are opting for the German version because it definately contains the theatrical and directors cut and also comes on separate discs.

the R1 could well have the exact same features as the versein die deutsch but on DVD-18s instead, which some people dislike.

[The Bear]

and you can not affiliate a link that is already discounted.Ok understood. Sorry for the confusion and discussion.

[Jez]

I cannot wait for this, a fine film and never had it on dvd beacuse of there never being a good version, glad i waited :clap:

The doc sounds wicked, is it the same one form the laser disk all 4hrs of it?

[Cockeye]

somone on another forum is saying that the German version does not have DTS and is cut. Can anyone absolutely confirm that this is not true?

In fact, this (http://shop.dtm.at/product_info.php?products_id=28661) says it doesn't :eek:

[MrFurious]

my r1 version is on its way,cant wait to watch this again

[RDNZL]

somone on another forum is saying that the German version does not have DTS and is cut. Can anyone absolutely confirm that this is not true?

In fact, this (http://shop.dtm.at/product_info.php?products_id=28661) says it doesn't :eek:

These say a dts track is present (at least it is on the ext. version according to the latter) :shrug:

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.moviegod.de/dvd/meldung/6121/&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfrighteners%2Bdeutsche%2Bdvd%2B%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.25frames.org/php_dvd/show_dvd.php%3Fdvd_id%3D12051%26ref_id%3D3&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfrighteners%2Bdeutsche%2B4%2Bdisc%2Bdvd%2B%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.areadvd.de/dvd/2005/The_Frighteners_DVD.shtml&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dfrighteners%2Bdeutsche%2B4%2Bdisc%2Bdvd%2B%26start%3D30%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN

[anephric]

In fact, this (http://shop.dtm.at/product_info.php?products_id=28661) says it doesn't :eek:

That says it's uncut, mind.

[William Shatners Wig]

In fact, this (http://shop.dtm.at/product_info.php?products_id=28661) says it doesn't :eek:

:lol: @ the advert for the Gerry release of The Thing as 'Das Ding' :notworthy. It doesn't really have the same menace as its English translation :D.

[Jez]

German cut or not then?

Want the best version and have the German on order at cd-wow.

[Tim A]

German cut or not then?

Want the best version and have the German on order at cd-wow.

The older German Frighteners dvd is cut according to dvdcompare.net, so it depends if they've done a new transfer or not I guess. It's obviously a new disc with the Jackson intro and different languages, but whether it's a new transfer would be hard to tell, but with the old one being non-anamorphic, I guess if the new one anamorphic it'll at least be a new transfer and so hopefully uncut. If so, it does seem weird though that Universal in Germany would do a new one and not UK or Australia. I think the old one was only cut because of the UK cutting it, other countries in Europe, and also here in Australia were given the UK cut version too. I'm pretty sure in Australia it doesn't need to be cut.

I could be totally wrong though. I'm going to wait for reviews I think to be sure.

[MrFurious]

my r1 arrived today,nice cover,movie on one side,extras on the other,no dts though!

[Cockeye]

urgh, flipper!

[evilashchris]

is it the full documentary?

[Reno]

The older German Frighteners dvd is cut according to dvdcompare.net, so it depends if they've done a new transfer or not I guess. It's obviously a new disc with the Jackson intro and different languages, but whether it's a new transfer would be hard to tell, but with the old one being non-anamorphic, I guess if the new one anamorphic it'll at least be a new transfer and so hopefully uncut. If so, it does seem weird though that Universal in Germany would do a new one and not UK or Australia. I think the old one was only cut because of the UK cutting it, other countries in Europe, and also here in Australia were given the UK cut version too. I'm pretty sure in Australia it doesn't need to be cut.

I could be totally wrong though. I'm going to wait for reviews I think to be sure.

I'd be careful with German DVD's because censorship, especially for horror films, is very strict there. Even fairly tame films like Blade are only available in heavily cut versions in shops or on mainstream sites like Amazon.de.

[Richie]

So have we all done the wrong thing ordering the German SE? :shrug:

[Reno]

So have we all done the wrong thing ordering the German SE? :shrug:

I'm not saying it will be cut, but it's always an idea to check when it comes to German DVD's. Frighteners was cut in the UK, so they may have had issues with the film as well.

[animatedude]

why there isn't reviews of the R1 DVD yet?!

[William Shatners Wig]

Because Universal's US branch are rather poor at dishing out online review material and the websites normally have to ask their sponsors (Amazon, CDWOW, etc.) to send them a copy to review; either that or review their own copy that they purchased.

[MrFurious]

sorry i havent checked the docu yet,just gt home from work,ill have a look soon

[MrFurious]

ok just checked and it runs in at about 3hr 48 mins so i presume its the full docu,now thats a class docu,bet its interesting too,feel sorry for mr fox now too

[Jez]

I cannot wait for the doc, i love detailed documentry's find them facsinating :dork:

[MrFurious]

yeah it is certainly detailed,much better than the usual rubbish that some releases call documentrys

[Jabbitt]

ok just checked and it runs in at about 3hr 48 mins so i presume its the full docu,now thats a class docu,bet its interesting too,feel sorry for mr fox now too

The full length documentary runs for around 4 1/2 hours. To make it all fit, it looks like they've taken the storyboard section of the documentary and placed that on side one. (referring to the R1 version)

[davey1970]

im still lost as to whether im buying the wrong one going for the german one - can someone confirm? i could still cancel if i do it quick.

thanks

[evilashchris]

Thanks Mr.Furious, can't wait, one of my fave films this..

[zantarous]

German 4 disc reviewd here http://www.dvdrome.com/html/frighteners_se.html all in German though but it does confirm new transfer for the normal cut and that it has English DTS and that both versions are uncut. How do you get google to translate a page?

[tezmo]

nice one zantarous - translated link here: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.dvdrome.com/html/frighteners_se.html

[the thing with no name]

well my interpretation of that is that both versions have had the previous cuts waved. it has dts on the dir cut. 1 disc for orig version, 1 for dir cut, then 2 discs for docus.
so sounds all good to me! :thumbs:

[Psycho]

Is the German 4 disc the set to get? :thinking:

I've not seen this film yet and would like to buy it.

Psycho :nuts:

[davey1970]

im happy.

phew.

thanks
d

[Grant666uk]

Mmmm the German version sound's like it will rock !!

"The at that time still baertige thick dickmops at the microphone warms up"

[albertz]

I received my R1 edition today and read on a thread over on the DVD sales forum of a possible picture break up at the layer change. I won't have time to watch this over the weekend, but can anyone confirm if this is true? What point in time is the layer change at?

Also, the back of the box blurb states:

'In-depth feature commentary by PETER JACKSON, his first feature commentary ever!'

Did he not do commentary tracks for the LotR DVD's? :?:

[Captain_Howdy666]

I received my R1 edition today and read on a thread over on the DVD sales forum of a possible picture break up at the layer change. I won't have time to watch this over the weekend, but can anyone confirm if this is true? What point in time is the layer change at?

Also, the back of the box blurb states:

'In-depth feature commentary by PETER JACKSON, his first feature commentary ever!'

Did he not do commentary tracks for the LotR DVD's? :?:

I guess it's the same commentary from the original laserdisc, which was created before LoTR was made.

[zantarous]

Cheers for the link tezmo looks like the sound track is nicely mixed

[Richie]

Thanks zantarous and tezmo! :thumbs:
Much relief here! :)

[clerk37]

Awesome! Puts that to rest at last, December 1st cant come soon enough :)

[shand754]

I received my R1 edition today and read on a thread over on the DVD sales forum of a possible picture break up at the layer change. I won't have time to watch this over the weekend, but can anyone confirm if this is true? What point in time is the layer change at?

Mine went funny during chapter 32 and then 33 was unwatchable. I have sent it back. Pain in the backside but I am glad others are getting this too as I have a new DVD player and thought it was that for a while.

[aprout]

ahh, good old Universal US & their lovely dvd18s. :(

Hope Mr Jackson tells them to put King Kong on the slightly more reliable single sided dvds! :D

[KeyserSoze]

God darn it guys. Ive got a rule not to spend more than £10 on a single movie.

But cant turn down a forums special hyped up release ! Ordered from CD-WOW (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561)

Not expecting them to ship it on release though. Their preorders this year have been terrible.

[Psycho]

Ordered! :thumbs:

Psycho :nuts:

[MrFurious]

ive double dipped too,must have the dts track

[rwoolst]

Mine went funny during chapter 32 and then 33 was unwatchable. I have sent it back. Pain in the backside but I am glad others are getting this too as I have a new DVD player and thought it was that for a while.
It is a player compatibility issue though, I have a number of R1 DVD18s from Universal that were causing problems, lockup on layer change etc - but they all play fine on my new Denon machine.

[Cockeye]

That's why I never touch DVD18s if i can help it.

[Marv]

ordered

[jroadley]

Anyone got the German set yet?

[MrFurious]

still waiting,does the r2 uk version contain dts ?

[clerk37]

Anyone got the German set yet?

I think its released on the 8th December (delayed from the 1st).

[malcy]

still waiting,does the r2 uk version contain dts ?

Julian on www.zetaminor.com has got the test disk and this definitely had DTS. The UK disk 1 is the uncut directors cut, so corresponds to what was certified at the BBFC.

I have taken a punt with the 4 disk German release as same price as R1 or UK R2 but you get the theatrical version as well.

[malcy]

It is a player compatibility issue though, I have a number of R1 DVD18s from Universal that were causing problems, lockup on layer change etc - but they all play fine on my new Denon machine.

Completely agree hence why I have stopped buying Universal DVD18s which they also use for most of their TV series releases.
Final straw was Casino which will only play in one of my three players where it is fine. On the other two both sides (film & extras) start playing up after the layer change with freezes, jumps and skips.
Seems to be a very widespread problem.

What I can't understand is why they use them on some titles but not others. The SE of Apollo 13 & Jaws are fine as they use two DVD9s.

[JimDriver2]

Just watched my R1 copy.

Thanks to the folks who convinced me to make a blind purchase of it. Was well worth it, its certainly a unique and original film. Gotta say tho, Michael J Fox, great as he is doesn't have the widest of range. He basically played a depressed Marty Mcfly in this.

Unfortunately had some probs with the disc tho. It went all a little wacky at the region change, around the 80 min mark. Couldn't watch the next 3 mins in any way, and then the following 3 were a bit choppy after that. The rest was fine tho, still i'll be a bit wary of DVD18's next time.

[BrentLumkin]

Is the only difference between the one disc R1 release and the multi-disc sets, the fact that the other sets include the theatrical cut? If so, what in the world are on the extra discs?

Disc One - Theatrical Cut

Disc Two - Director's Cut

Disc Three - Documentary

I suppose that's it for the UK version, but what about the forth disc on the German release? Is it more material, or did they just split that third disc up?

[captaineyecatch]

Is the only difference between the one disc R1 release and the multi-disc sets, the fact that the other sets include the theatrical cut? If so, what in the world are on the extra discs?

Disc One - Theatrical Cut

Disc Two - Director's Cut

Disc Three - Documentary

I suppose that's it for the UK version, but what about the forth disc on the German release? Is it more material, or did they just split that third disc up?


UK Release is
Disc 1 = Directors cut
Disc 2 = Documemtary
Disc 3 = Documentary

German is
Disc 1 = Directors cut
Disc 2 = Theatrical cut
Disc 3 = Documentary
Disc 4 = Documentary

[Mr Monkey]

The region 2&4 version they are listing on CD-Wow.com (50p off!) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561)! claims to have both the director's cut and theatrical cut yet other online retailers just list director's cut. I'm not overly fussed if it doesn't include theatrical cut but just found it strange that's all.

[Spectre07]

German is
Disc 1 = Directors cut
Disc 2 = Theatrical cut
Disc 3 = Documentary
Disc 4 = DocumentaryAre the documentaries spoken language in English or German?

[Andy]

Where's the best place to order the German set, and how much is it?

[BrentLumkin]

Why did they split up the documentary?

[clerk37]

Its quite easy to go back a page or two and read.

[jonpeat]

Where's the best place to order the German set, and how much is it?

Its £13.50 at CD-wow.

German Frighteners (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http%3A//www.cd-wow.com/detail_results_2.php%3Fproduct_code%3D23199%26subcat%3Dregion2^QA^affid=15561)

[drush9999]

Just watched my R1 copy.

Thanks to the folks who convinced me to make a blind purchase of it. Was well worth it, its certainly a unique and original film. Gotta say tho, Michael J Fox, great as he is doesn't have the widest of range. He basically played a depressed Marty Mcfly in this.

Unfortunately had some probs with the disc tho. It went all a little wacky at the region change, around the 80 min mark. Couldn't watch the next 3 mins in any way, and then the following 3 were a bit choppy after that. The rest was fine tho, still i'll be a bit wary of DVD18's next time.

My copy is freezing at the same point :brickwall
Seems people from other forums are having the same problem. Hopefully my replacement is ok.

[JimDriver2]

drush999, did you try skipping forward? Thats what i did, and found it was just 3 mins i couldn't watch. Not great sure, but tbh i can't be bothered to get a replacement for just that. I doubt it would help anyway, as i expect its due to the disc type.

[DeadWalk]

I understand that this is the point on the disc where the layer change is, so that may explain the lock up.

[HubbaHubba]

No problem here on my old Pioneer 717. Which is a miracle as it seems to have this skipping at the layer change problem on some other one-sided discs.

[drush9999]

drush999, did you try skipping forward? Thats what i did, and found it was just 3 mins i couldn't watch. Not great sure, but tbh i can't be bothered to get a replacement for just that. I doubt it would help anyway, as i expect its due to the disc type.

Yeah I couldn't skip either at that point, tried on three different players, including my computer.

I have a Pioneer 717 too (almost 7 years old now), plays everything I throw at it. Think I just got a bad disc, my third in 7 years of DVD collecting.

[Cockeye]

Has anyone's copy shipped from CD-Wow.com (50p off!) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561) yet?

Bit worried as it's a chistmas present.

[Jez]

Its not due out till Thursday Cock :)

Hopefully they might ship early :clap:

[tezmo]

no chance :lol: but we shall see...

[Cockeye]

Its not due out till Thursday Cock :)

Hopefully they might ship early :clap:

Isn't it?

Oh, ok

/me relaxes

Thought it was the 1st!

[Richie]

It was the 1st but then the date changed to the 8th for some reason.

[clerk37]

Im curious to see how many of us actually have it shipped on Thursday.....it it the WOW after all :)

[jroadley]

Im curious to see how many of us actually have it shipped on Thursday.....it it the WOW after all :)

My money is on it being delayed...

[jonpeat]

Yep...but heres hoping

[Cooey]

It was the 1st but then the date changed to the 8th for some reason.

And this is apparantly the reason:

Taken from fritte at The Import Forums

Here is the reason:

Der deutsche Ton wird nun scheinbar doch nicht in 5.1, sondern nur in Dolby Surround vorliegen. Außerdem wurde die DVD um eine Woche verschoben, was evtl. auf eine Neueinstufung des Kinocuts schließen lässt. Der DC bekam FSK16 und so dürfte sich Universal vielleicht dazu entschieden haben, nun auch den Kinocut neu prüfen zu lassen. Dann könnte die DVD nämlich auch bei allen Online-Shops angeboten werden.

Translated with Babelfish:

The German clay/tone will be present now apparently nevertheless not in 5.1, but only in Dolby Surround. In addition the DVD was shifted one week, which suggests cinema CUTS possibly a re-classification. DC got FSK16 and in such a way might universal have perhaps decided to let now also the cinema CUT examine again. Then the DVD could be offered also with all on-line Shops.

No DTS? And cut? I'll be cancelling my order if this is indeed true :suspect:

With regards to the Aussie DVDm does anyone know if that is fully uncut? :thinking:

[KeyserSoze]

:eek:

I really hope someone in Germany goes out and buys this tomorrow.

[Cockeye]

And this is apparantly the reason:

Taken from fritte at The Import Forums



No DTS? And cut? I'll be cancelling my order if this is indeed true :suspect:

With regards to the Aussie DVDm does anyone know if that is fully uncut? :thinking:

Have you not read that quote properly - you posted it yourself!

What is says is that the GERMAN soundtrack is only presented in Dolby Surround. Something that we already knew!

The English track is still in DTS.

Panic Ye Not!

[MrFurious]

argh no dts.....can you cancel with cdwow or do they charge at time of order?

[anephric]

I'm more worried about it being cut than no jockin' DTS!

[Cooey]

Have you not read that quote properly - you posted it yourself!

What is says is that the GERMAN soundtrack is only presented in Dolby Surround. Something that we already knew!

The English track is still in DTS.

Panic Ye Not!

Oh the wit! If only one could be as sarcastic as yourself :cuckoo: :oh-hum: :razz:

;) :thumbs:

To be honest I'm not really bothered about the whole DTS issue, I'm more bothered about it being cut

[HubbaHubba]

The way I read that was that it had to be resubmited to be rated due to cuts made at the cinema being reinserted into the film, i.e. not cut.

[malcy]

The way I read that was that it had to be resubmited to be rated due to cuts made at the cinema being reinserted into the film, i.e. not cut.

I agree with your reading of this.

The issue may be with the Theatrical Cut as they used the English cut version of the theatrical cut on the original DVD in Europe, Universal being cheap skates did not produce different versions for different countries. Therefore Germany may require the Theatrical Version to be recertified (like they would in the UK to the BBFC) if the theatrical cut is going to have these cuts reinstated so matching the US theatrical version which was used elsewhere in the world.

The directors cut is longer and a new version in Europe so had to be certified for the DVD anyway.

[Cockeye]

Oh the wit! If only one could be as sarcastic as yourself :cuckoo: :oh-hum: :razz:

;) :thumbs:

To be honest I'm not really bothered about the whole DTS issue, I'm more bothered about it being cut

Sorry, didn't mean that to come across the way you took it.

Apologies.

But it always was the case that the German soundtrack was Dolby Surround, and the English track was DTS.

As for the cuts, I really don't have any idea to be honest.

Guess we'll find out soon enough.

[Spectre07]

I think I'll wait until next week before I order anything.

[Njål]

Unless my German has become very rusty, what it says is that the DC got passed as a 16, so they resubmitted the TC (previously an 18) as well, hoping to get the whole set as 16 (and as such, possibly to sell at German etailers).

[Jez]

And this is apparantly the reason:

Taken from fritte at The Import Forums



No DTS? And cut? I'll be cancelling my order if this is indeed true :suspect:

With regards to the Aussie DVDm does anyone know if that is fully uncut? :thinking:

Did another translation: The German sound will not exist now apparently yet in 5.1, but rather only in Dolby Surround. Moreover the DVD was shifted around a week, what lets close evtl. on a new classification of the Kinocuts. The DC got FSK16 and so might have decided universally perhaps in addition let newly test now also the Kinocut. Then the DVD could be offered namely also in all Online-Shops.

[Cockeye]

Which would explain a lot. They have stupid rules in Germany. You can get hard core pornography in petrol stations, but cannot buy anything rated over FSK16 in any shop! :lol:

[Cooey]

Sorry, didn't mean that to come across the way you took it.

Apologies.

.

Don't apologise my good man :thumbs: No offence was taken :D

One of the guys over at The Import Forums has actually got this and posted a comment about it.... I'll find it and post back soon :D

[Jez]

One of the guys over at The Import Forums


Where is this then always like new forums :D

[Cooey]

As promised..

Posted by Merdalf from The Import Forums
I've bought the 4 Disc Set. It is indeed uncut. The former theatrical release was cut, because they made one disc for the European market and it had to be cut to get an English rating. The theatrical cut got an FSK-18 rating in Germany in 1996 (both versions: cut & uncut).
The theatrical cut included in this set has a new transfer, uncut and anamorphic, but wasn't checked again by the German rating board. So it still has a FSK-18 rating. It still has only a German Dolby Surround audio track because that is how it originally was released. The theatrical cut has an English DD 5.1 audio track.
The Director's Cut has DTS 5.1 and DD 5.1 audio tracks in English and is uncut as well. This one was never released in Germany before, so they had to get it through the German rating board and it's got an FSK-16!

[Richie]

Excellent, Cooey! Thanks for the confirmation! :thumbs: