Rockband/Rockband2/GH:World Tour? [Archive]

Ragnarak

28-09-2008, 13:34

Rather than post in one of the individual threads and get biased by just who's reading those threads I thought it made more sense to post here.

Now that GH: World Tour and Rockband 2 are out soon I'm really tempted to get one of the above but can't decide which.

I have GH3: Legends Of Rock on the PS3 with the Les Paul guitar.

Will the guitar from that work with any of the above? If I get GH: World Tour will the instruments work with Rockband 2 if i just buy the game only at a later stage? I know there's meant to be some kind of compatability but what exactly does that reply to? Will the Rockband instruments work on the new Rockband/GH:WT?

Compatability issues aside, is there anything else to consider? Are the different songs going to be exclusively on either Rock Band 2 or GH: WT or will there be some of the same songs on both? If they're exclusively on one or the other is that really the decider between the two?

Drysolder

28-09-2008, 16:43

Your Les Paul will work with everything.

There has been an agreement so that RB/RB2/GH:WT peripherals will be cross-compatible on all platforms going forward (unfortunately the RB Guitar is STILL incompatible with GH3 on the 360).

Consensus seems to be from those who've played GH:WT is that the hardware is far superior to that of RB, and if you look in the threads most RB players have suffered at least one piece of hardware failing.

Now that everyone's playing nice on hardware, songs become a little muddier. Yes, there is exclusivity between the two games, yes some songs appear in both, others only appear in one/vice versa.

Guitar Hero: WT Songs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Guitar_Hero_World_Tour
Rock Band 1 songs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Guitar_Hero_World_Tour
Rock Band 2 songs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_in_Rock_Band_2
Rock Band DLC songs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_downloadable_songs_for_the_Rock_Band_series

Harmonix claim by the end of 2008 that there will be over 500 songs available for the Rock Band platform (and that includes a free 20 track DLC download for Rock Band 2 customers).
Activision say that over the life of GH: WT they will have access to far more artists and songs than MTV will be able to as they have linked up with Warner Music and Universal Music.

AKPiggott

28-09-2008, 17:18

Your Les Paul will work with everything.

Presuming he has GH3 on the 360. ;)

Bapapapa

28-09-2008, 17:24

Is there any Dire Straits or Pink Floyd tracks planned for any of the releases..?

Ono

28-09-2008, 17:38

Dire Straits would be superb. WOuld love some Fleetwood Mac on there too. The guitar solo in The Chain (aka. the BBC Grand Prix music) would be heaven.

PlexShaw

28-09-2008, 18:23

WOuld love some Fleetwood Mac on there too.
Go Your Own Way is in both Rock Band 2 and Guitar Hero World Tour.

Ragnarak

28-09-2008, 20:10

Ono

28-09-2008, 20:18

Go Your Own Way is in both Rock Band 2 and Guitar Hero World Tour.

Great. That's not one of their best but hopefully opens up the floodgates. Would also love to see Dreams on there.

Drysolder

28-09-2008, 21:00

Great. That's not one of their best but hopefully opens up the floodgates. Would also love to see Dreams on there.

Just give me Tango in the Night as an album and I'll be happy. :)

Cheers mate

That's a great reply and answered everything :-)

No problem, I think you hit the nail on the head, and it's the quality of the songs in each package. To be honest, I'd expect most RB players to be getting World Tour and vice versa (even lentini, he won't be able to resist).

lentini

29-09-2008, 06:01

To be honest, I'd expect most RB players to be getting World Tour and vice versa (even lentini, he won't be able to resist).

oh yes I will be able to resist, I'm so not getting GH:WT

Drysolder

29-09-2008, 07:00

oh yes I will be able to resist, I'm so not getting GH:WT

Don't make me remind you about GH: Aerosmith now, so don't go telling fibs.. ;)

lentini

29-09-2008, 07:13

Don't make me remind you about GH: Aerosmith now, so don't go telling fibs.. ;)

I...err....you're mixing me up with someone else :suspect:

**** Neversoft. **** them up their stupid asses.

AKPiggott

29-09-2008, 09:26

Don't make me remind you about GH: Aerosmith now, so don't go telling fibs.. ;)

:lol:

Little_Dragon

29-09-2008, 15:05

AKPiggott

29-09-2008, 15:08

Just got rid of my Guitar Hero 2 & 3 in preparation, I think I'd prefer Rock Band as the game, but Im going for the World Tour bundle as the instruments look a lot better. I'll just pick up Rock Band 1 & 2 when they come cheaper :)

These games hardly ever seem to go down in price (I mean GH2 and 3 solus are still £39.99 almost everywhere, WTF?). What I'd suggest is just buy RB2, then you can always rent/borrow RB1 to rip the songs for the price of 400MSP.

Ragnarak

29-09-2008, 15:26

AKPiggott

29-09-2008, 15:33

Presumably the PS3 GH3: Legends Of Rock guitar can be used fine on RB1 if I pick the Solus version up? Is Rockband playable as just a guitar game or do you need all the instruments to progress? Can it be completed on guitar and then I can come back once I get GH:WT to play the other instruments?

I'm a 306er, so I'm not 100% sure about the compatibility on PS3 (I'd be surprised if it wasn't though) but I can confirm that Rock Band does indeed have its own solo guitar mode and you can play online with just one instrument. :thumbs:

PlexShaw

29-09-2008, 16:11

Presumably the PS3 GH3: Legends Of Rock guitar can be used fine on RB1 if I pick the Solus version up? Is Rockband playable as just a guitar game or do you need all the instruments to progress? Can it be completed on guitar and then I can come back once I get GH:WT to play the other instruments?
Yes, the PS3 Les Paul guitar will work with Rock Band 1 as long as you install the update that you'll be prompted to get when you first launch the game.

Mills

29-09-2008, 22:21

I'm one who's planning on getting all of them. Prefering Rock Band, but I just like rhythm games and I while I didn't like GH3 as much, I still enjoyed bits of it. Basically, I'd look at the track list above all else. Although I do think the interface of GH4 looks hideous.

As for the hardware, I much prefer the GH Les Paul to the RB Strat, and the new GH guitar looks interesting too. Drums wise, obviously there's not been as much widespread playing of the GH drums, but RB drums have undeniably had their problems. I've personally not had anything go wrong with my RB instruments, but I know many people have. I would get the GH drums, but I have been thinking that they make some parts more awkward. (For example, using the cymbal as the hi-hat and then moving to the left to hit the snare, when in reality you'd move right). But I guess if they're more reliable then that alone would cancel out minor irritations like that.

sweetmate

29-09-2008, 22:27

Rock Band 2. (and borrow/rent RB1 and do the 55 song export for 400 MS points). Do not buy ANY Guitar Hero games anymore. They are a complete insult to gamers and music fans.

Joe Pasquale

30-09-2008, 01:23

Do not buy ANY Guitar Hero games anymore. They are a complete insult to gamers and music fans.

I love the smell of fanboy in the morning. :D

Drysolder

30-09-2008, 05:34

I love the smell of fanboy in the morning. :D

You scoff, Joe, but I'll tell you something for nothing: make a mess of World Tour, and Activision/Neversoft will never see any of my money for future games (of which there are no doubt in development).

Cockeye

30-09-2008, 06:19

why are people so anti GH?

lentini

30-09-2008, 06:43

why are people so anti GH?

You were in love with beautiful girl who you had so much fun with almost every day...you loved the way she sounded, they way she played....and then she fell in with the wrong crowd. Next time you saw her, this girl had changed...she looked different, played different...she didn't feel the same, she was broken...disfigured. You didn't have fun with her anymore, she frustrated you a hell of a lot. Everytime you went online with her, almost every session would be cut short or it'd be the same old content.

Then you met someone else...an amazing, multi-talented girl who looked fantastic, played fantastic, was extremely fun and kept showering you with new stuff every week. She also got on great with your friends.

Then all of a sudden the old girl came back onto the scene, saying she'd changed and had a single musical taste even though she liked other songs too, although the other songs were more fun than her main taste. You went back for a brief fling and found out she hadn't changed at all...she was the same boring mess you'd come to hate.

You go back to the one you love, she forgives you and you go back to having fun. The old girl comes back yet again, she's multitalented too. She boasts of a massive new interest in music, a lot of them you won't hear elsewhere. Her friends badmouth your current, multitalented girl at every oportunity, saying things like she breaks down easily. She also promises to shower you with stuff as often as your current girl. She also says she's learned to write music. You're tempted. You seem to have the same enthusiasm for for again. But then you keep thinking about how she's burned you before on two occasions. You also find out her music writing is limited and read that she hasn't changed that much, deepdown she's the same as always.

You go back to your one love, never to be tempted again....

something like that anyway :nuts:

Drysolder

30-09-2008, 07:04

why are people so anti GH?

Brian Bright, need I say any more?

PlexShaw

30-09-2008, 07:28

I think I must be going crazy as I'm slowing starting to warm to Brian Bright.

I'll book myself into a therapist later today... :nuts:

splobber

30-09-2008, 07:41

why are people so anti GH?

No idea. Is it the electronic version of badge snobbery? I don't even know who Brian Bright is and frankly I don't care as he doesn't strum my guitar for me.

I've always preferred GH as the standard track list has been better and I go back to it more than I do RB. The way you play seems more lifelike too (i.e. what button you press)

I hardly play Rock Band on drums as they are a POS. I sold the guitar as well as that was cheap tat.

lentini

30-09-2008, 08:19

Brian Bright, need I say any more?

oh yeah, him too

Gizmo

30-09-2008, 09:01

I'm definitely going to get GH:WT including the instruments, and move on the 'pile of ***** in an expensive box' that Harmonix saddled us with.

I'll still buy Rock Band 2 as Rock Band the game itself is great (minus the idiotic sign-in faffing about that still irritates when setting up a band game).

GAmbrose

30-09-2008, 09:27

Is there not a way just to buy the Guitar Hero: World Tour drums with the game?

All I can see online is the band pack or the Solus.

Gary A

PlexShaw

30-09-2008, 10:04

Is there not a way just to buy the Guitar Hero: World Tour drums with the game?

All I can see online is the band pack or the Solus.
Alas not - there are three SKU's:

Solus
Game and Guitar
Game, Guitar, Drums and Mic

GAmbrose

30-09-2008, 10:08

That is shocking.

I have 2x Guitar Hero III guitars, a Logitech USB Mic and a Rock Band Drumkit. I don't need anymore hardware except to say the the drum hardware for Guitar Hero: WT looks much better.

So I can either order an Ion Drum kit for £200 or order this bundle for £150 and ebay all my old stuff.

Another reason Activision are gits.

Gary A

Drysolder

30-09-2008, 10:17

I'll still buy Rock Band 2 as Rock Band the game itself is great (minus the idiotic sign-in faffing about that still irritates when setting up a band game).

They've done away with that in RB2.

Damage Inc

30-09-2008, 10:19

any idea when the Ion drum kit will be available in the UK?

GAmbrose

30-09-2008, 10:24

I was told end of September originally, but now I think it's November time to co-incide with the release of Rock Band 2.

Gary A

sweetmate

30-09-2008, 14:12

I love the smell of fanboy in the morning. :D

Joe - "Boss, some guys on forums think our GH games are garbage and that we have taken a brilliant franchise and extracted all the fun and joy out of it"

Neversoft Management - "But Joe look how many poor saps buy all the crap we shovel, we sell millions of copies, how can our game not be utterly brilliant? Call them "fanboys", that'll show em (giggle,giggle)"

Joe - "Good idea boss, our games are utterly fantastic, they must be fanboys if they thinks otherwise"

Damage Inc

30-09-2008, 14:18

did Joe really say that?

Tom Whitaker

30-09-2008, 15:12

I think Joe's remarkably good natured about the stick the GH games get on here - I'd rather have him around that not...

AKPiggott

30-09-2008, 15:19

splobber

30-09-2008, 15:28

You scoff, Joe, but I'll tell you something for nothing: make a mess of World Tour, and Activision/Neversoft will never see any of my money for future games (of which there are no doubt in development).

Missed this before.

All I can say is :lol:

lentini

30-09-2008, 15:55

I'm with Tom here, why can't we all just get along? Really, it's a bit sad seeing a bunch of (mostly) grown men splitting hairs over a bunch of video games that necessitate the use of a small plastic guitar with brightly coloured buttons on. :nuts:

any different to fighting over which colour cases your High Definition movies have? :D

I'm not a fanboy, I've stated the reasons for my disdain for Neversofts creations many times before.

PlexShaw

30-09-2008, 16:10

AKPiggott

30-09-2008, 16:11

At least Activision/Red Octane can be bothered to release their game worldwide simultaneously though.

PlexShaw

30-09-2008, 16:21

At least Activision/Red Octane can be bothered to release their game worldwide simultaneously though.
Yep, although I think MTV Games/Harmonix are finally starting to get up to speed.

Drysolder

30-09-2008, 16:50

Missed this before.

All I can say is :lol:

Hey everyone, it's the comedy admin!

splobber

30-09-2008, 16:52

Better then being a recurring member I suppose.

Your post is far more comedic then anything I could muster. :nuts:

Joe Pasquale

30-09-2008, 17:04

I'm with Tom here, why can't we all just get along? Really, it's a bit sad seeing a bunch of (mostly) grown men splitting hairs over a bunch of video games that necessitate the use of a small plastic guitar with brightly coloured buttons on. :nuts:

I think part of the partisanship about these games is the investment. It's like Bluray versus HDDVD, Xbox versus PS3... If you're dropping hundreds of pounds on something, your perspective is going to be at least a little skewed against the other one.

I think Joe's remarkably good natured about the stick the GH games get on here - I'd rather have him around that not...

:thumbs: Thanks! I've talked smack about movies and games myself in the past; so I'm sympathetic to how being insulting and abusive toward a 'product' on the internet isn't something to get personal about.

I read a lot of opinions on the games, and I bang the drum here with regard to taking to heart any good ideas I read up on.

There's very little objective opinions about videogames out there on the internet though. It's down one side or the other. A game is the best thing ever, or it's absolute dreck. Most vitriolic mouth-frothing rants* toward the game surprisingly have very little tangible points to take on board. Just very vague sentences about how it's not the other game.

* There's been at least two laundry lists of complaints on here that had at least *some* good, valid points... So I'm not picking on anyone here.

sweetmate

30-09-2008, 20:58

I love how people who express an opinion about your product that is negative are "fanboys". Have you ever actually considered that they used your product and thought its not very good?

Has the thought ever crossed your mind that I've played Guitar Heros 1, 2, 3, Aerosmith(Demo), and Rock Band and formulated the opinion that 1 and 2 are superb, and 3 and Aerosmith aren't? And that seeing as its a sequel to the two previous games, and all that was really required was to repeat the same game, with new tracks, and maybe add some decent new features (ie not battlemode) and you would have a superb game, yet you completely failed to do that extremely disappointing?

And your next sequel is an EXACT copy of Rock Band, with no interesting features, the visuals look awful, the note charts look awful, the setlist has a handful of exclusives that I like, the music creation feature is of no interest to me, although i've never used it, but 2 minutes of watching the brian "the other guys don't have what we have" bright demo (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36483.html) is conclusive enough for me.

I'm not being partisan, if RB2 and World Tour were both products I could get excited about I would be. But nothing I have seen, read or heard has hinted that Word tour will be anywhere near the quality of RB2. And I already have 55 RB1 + 76 DLC + many more to come to add to the 75 RB2 tracks, compared to the 10 or so tracks in World tour I would like.

So when someone asks opinions in an internet forum, and I give mine (in a few lines) you immediately dismiss it as not valid, so yes you are going to get stick for that, you should learn to accept that stick or not get into flamewars with people whose opinions you don't like. To be honest I really have no idea why you feel it is your duty to talk about your product in this forum and why you feel insulted by my opinion.

Joe Pasquale

30-09-2008, 23:28

Wow, please calm down. Re-read what I've written.

The fanboy comment was in relation to what you wrote about saying the 'GH games are an insult', and it was meant in jest. Hence the smiley.

Re-read what I wrote in my previous post. I'm sure one of the 'laundry list' posts I mention, which have comments I know I've talked about at work, was one of yours.

I'm not dismissing anyone's opinion on here, have I said as much?

What you've just written, I personally disagree with. Millions of people loved playing GH3 and enjoyed it, that does count for something. I think you're being way overly harsh by dismissing the games the way you are... But hey.

I've played both RB2 and GHWT. I personally find the WT charts more fun to play, and I've read some other reviews that also say the RB2 ones are a bit of a disappointment. < Again, just my opinion, no need to tear me a new one for stating it. :) I've posted on these very forums that I've enjoyed playing RB2.

you should learn to accept that stick or not get into flamewars with people whose opinions you don't like.

I'm not the one flaming mate, I'm just expressing myself in a pretty balanced way. As others have mentioned on this thread, I've taken the criticism on the chin in the past, and will continue to do so.

To be honest I really have no idea why you feel it is your duty to talk about your product in this forum and why you feel insulted by my opinion.

Jesus. My first sentence in my last post was re-iterating how I'm *not* insulted. I've also put you out so much that you're questioning why I'm posting on these forums too? Wow, just wow.

Can someone over in Blighty give sweetmate a hug for me! :)

sweetmate

01-10-2008, 00:09

Well Joe, I won't continue this flamewar as it seems like we've crossed wires, and we've done it before, its futile and its not fair on the OP. Suffice to say I will try not to be harsh about Guitar Hero (note I've stayed out of the GH threads recently for exactly that reason) but I will express my dislike for your products when it is relevant, informed, constructive and of course warranted. Is there a demo planned for World Tour? Or will crunch time make it impossible?

Joe Pasquale

01-10-2008, 01:02

Fair do's. :)

Sorry, out of the loop on the demo front. That recent GH:A demo release was news to me too!

Cockeye

01-10-2008, 06:46

My only annoyance with the Guitar Hero Franchise is that my GH wireless guitar is completely borked meaning I cannot play any of the games at the moment, and Activision refused to replace it even though it is under warranty.

Their hardware is crap.

I will be buying GHWT in the hope that the hardware is better. However, if I get a problem with the hardware on that, then there will be someone else here who won't touch another game in the franchise.

But apart from the hardware, both franchises have their good and bad points in my opinion.

carlito8

01-10-2008, 08:46

My only annoyance with the Guitar Hero Franchise is that my GH wireless guitar is completely borked meaning I cannot play any of the games at the moment, and Activision refused to replace it even though it is under warranty.

Their hardware is crap.

Where did you get it from *******, why not just swap it over with the retailer or was it bought used ?

Cockeye

01-10-2008, 08:59

It was brought from Gamestation.

The original didn't work out of the box so was replaced. The second one packed up after six months and Gamestation told me I had to go to Activision.

SlyMarques

01-10-2008, 11:53

I'm still not sure to get :
- GHWT when it launches here in November (PS3) or
- buy RB2 when it launches in the US next month......(I can get it shipped relatively easily).
:thinking:

Points to ponder:
- About 30 DLC songs bought already (US account) with RB1
- UK warranty peace of mind

V_Game

19-01-2009, 19:39

well i would like to know whitch instrement are better as i want to buy one of the two. as GH: world tour is 129 and rock band is 99 with no game.
you dont mind any of the song list on the games but which insrument bundle is better.

i see most people preffer rb as a game but what about the insruments?

Tom Whitaker

19-01-2009, 20:04

Hardware - Mics are identical, GH3 and GHWT guitars are best, GHWT drums are current best but unreliable.

Game - best guitar game IMHO is Guitar Hero II followed by GH3, best band game is Rock Band 2 (and rent RB1 to import the songs).

My advice would be to buy GH3 with a guitar for £35 from HMV then when the Rock Band 2 drums are released, get them and the Rock Band 2. If you need a Mic, get a Logitech Vantage for about £10-15 off eBay.

paulsaz

19-01-2009, 20:06

for me gh has the instruments and rb is the better game with better dlc. gh:wt and rb2 share an awful lot of the same playlist though.

V_Game

19-01-2009, 21:10

what do you mean GH:WT drums unreliable.
i have GH3 guitar all ready.
is it a deffinat that rock band 2 drums will be released and what makes them better that GH:WT drums?

Arthur Fowler

19-01-2009, 21:21

what do you mean GH:WT drums unreliable.
i have GH3 guitar all ready.
is it a deffinat that rock band 2 drums will be released and what makes them better that GH:WT drums?

My son is on his 3rd set of WT drums - the first two both had a pad stop working.

V_Game

19-01-2009, 21:38

i was going to go and get one of them tomorrow but now i thinking on not to get none of them at all.

Ono

19-01-2009, 21:52

My nephews have GH:WT and they were over here to play RB over Christmas.

Consensus seems to be that they prefer the RB Druns and the GH Guitar.

Of the actual game - they didn't really care :lol:

LordoftheDance

22-01-2009, 17:34

Lots of questions, as I've just been reading about these games, now that talk of Amplitude 2 has piqued my interest again in the music genre game.

1. Never seen either of these 2 in action - which is better, in terms of graphics, sonics, ease of play?

2. I loved Amplitude, which is these is a natural progression from that game?

3. Do I have to have a guitar to play either game, or can I simply play on the PS3 controller?

4. I have few friends, no kids, and the other half won't play, so which is better for solo play?

Thanks!! :)

kanedaa

22-01-2009, 18:26

Lots of different opinions on this, but here's my take:

1 - Rock Band has a much better visual design both in terms of the graphics (character models, locations etc) and on-screen display. Guitar Hero World Tour in particular has a very cluttered on-screen display. Audio there is nothing really between them other than the obvious (set-lists and differences in how they mix the music). GHWT is probably the easiest of the lot as it has a Beginner mode but otherwise, both are largely the same in terms of basic gameplay mechanics.

2 - Amplitude is made by Harmonix who went on to make Guitar Hero 1 & 2, then moved on to Rock Band 1 & 2. Guitar Hero 3 & subsequent titles are made by Neversoft but the gameplay mechanics are the same, so any of them really.

3 - For Rock Band YES, you need a guitar controller. For Guitar Hero NO, you can use a pad.

4 - Rock Band or Guitar Hero 3. Or get both (GH3 + guitar for £30, Rock Band solus).

LordoftheDance

22-01-2009, 18:45

Thanks kanedaa, a very informative reply. :thumbs:

ajr90

22-01-2009, 19:03

3 - For Rock Band YES, you need a guitar controller. For Guitar Hero NO, you can use a pad.

I would add to the end of that "you can use a pad, but you'd be missing out on 99.99999% of the fun. Don't do it!"

GAmbrose

22-01-2009, 19:10

I thought there was one audio difference between them, Rock Band sounds LOUDER.

Can barely hear the tracks on GH:WT

Gary A

Tom Whitaker

22-01-2009, 19:13

If you want to play anything other than the guitar (singing or drumming), RB2 is the best way to go.

If you just want guitar, Guitar Hero 2 is still the absolute king of all these games, and has a much better learning curve than Guitar Hero 3. I'd advise you to go for the HMV in-store Guitar Hero 3 and guitar for £35 but if you loved Amplitude, you owe it to yourself and HMX to grab a second hand Guitar Hero 2 game to go with your purchase and start there.

The band games are fun as bands but for just guitar, the guitar-only games have a better selection of tracks for just that one instrument. For me, it stacks up like this:

Guitar Only: GH2, GH3, Rock Band 1/2, GH:WT
Band Games: Rock Band 1/2, GH:WT

Once you get into GH3, going 'back' to GH2 won't be as much fun - most of the tracks are covers and the timing is a bit less forgiving - but approached the other way around you'll enjoy both.

This assumes you're on the 360 (there's no GH2 on PS2).

Jim989

22-01-2009, 19:17

I played GH1 on PS2 (but not alot) and then moved onto GH3 on PS3. I was not happy with Harmonix because of the delays in releasing Rock Band in the EU. However, the pure lack of DLC for GH3 made me buy RockBand when it was released.

Now that I played RockBand, it is definately the more superior product backed up with ALOT of DLC. It is hard to explain the exact reasons.

LordoftheDance

22-01-2009, 20:24

Forgot to say this would be for PS3, as I don't have, and have never played, an XBOX 360.

Sounds like Guitar Hero 2 is the best bet for me then! (Oh, and buy a guitar to go with it - but aren't these things really expensive?)

Thanks guys.

Tom Whitaker

22-01-2009, 20:49

Sorry, I meant "there's no GH2 on PS3".

If all prices etc were equal I might suggest you get a guitar and RB2 but as they're not... GH3 and guitar for £35 is a very nice, cheap way in.

LordoftheDance

23-01-2009, 09:19

OK, thanks Tom. :)

entrywound

23-01-2009, 10:53

msm13579

23-01-2009, 11:07

2. I loved Amplitude, which is these is a natural progression from that game?

ever played frequency on ps2? if you have access to something that plays ps2 games it's definitely worth picking up :)

Professor Abronsius

23-01-2009, 11:16

I recently picked up GH3 for my 360, mainly cos of the cheap price, I never really thought about getting a guitar game before as I didn't think it was my sort of thing. However, I am absolutely loving the game! Playing with my headphones on, the volume turned up to 11, the game is fricking superb! I can heartily recommend it to you, no question.

Same here, although went for GH:WT for a fiver more so i could jam with Joe Walsh on Hotel California. :D Also got Bruce Springsteen Born To Run as DLC next week.

Got the option of adding another Guitar as well, if the wife ever gets into it.

But yeah, excelent game, great fun. :clap:

LordoftheDance

23-01-2009, 12:24

ever played frequency on ps2? if you have access to something that plays ps2 games it's definitely worth picking up :)

Yeah, I sure did - I preferred Amplitude though. :)

Unfortunately, my PS3 isn't backwards compatible.

msm13579

23-01-2009, 15:47

Yeah, I sure did - I preferred Amplitude though. :)

cool :thumbs: i thought they were both pretty awesome :D

LordoftheDance

23-01-2009, 16:14

Well I took the plunge and traipsed around the shops earlier looking for GH3 with the wireless guitar.

Almost everywhere was at a ridiculous price.

Gamestation: £70
Asda: £65
Pink Planet: £65
Tesco: £65
Zavvi: £75 - 25% = £56.25 (not bad, but more than I can afford!)

Finally, I went to HMV and they had piles of the games for Wii and PS2 for the princely sum of £35, but none for PS3.

I asked at the counter, and they had 1 left in stock - but it was reserved for someone. :(

So in the end, I ordered it online from Amazon for £35.

I sold 3 games earlier today (Pure, Fallout 3, Drake's Fortune) so I could buy this game - I hope it's worth it! :)

Joober

23-01-2009, 17:36

Threads merged.

Tom Whitaker

23-01-2009, 18:37

I hope you enjoy it. Perhaps it's not for everyone but those who love it tend to love it in a BIG way :)

lentini

23-01-2009, 18:42

I hope you enjoy it. Perhaps it's not for everyone but those who love it tend to love it in a BIG way :)

This.

It'll take over your life....and it'll change the way you 'listen' to music

LordoftheDance

23-01-2009, 19:36

Another question, then:

The one I've bought is Guitar Hero 3: Legends of Rock.

You guys have mentioned the other one that came out later, Guitar Hero: World Tour - I presume that's the 4th game in the series?

If I want the songs from that, can I download them as DLC from the Playstation Store online, or would I have to buy the full game Guitar Hero: World Tour separately?

lentini

23-01-2009, 19:50

You guys have mentioned the other one that came out later, Guitar Hero: World Tour - I presume that's the 4th game in the series?

yeah, that's right

If I want the songs from that, can I download them as DLC from the Playstation Store online, or would I have to buy the full game Guitar Hero: World Tour separately?

you'll have to buy it seperately

Tom Whitaker

23-01-2009, 21:39

Guitar Hero: World Tour is the full band edition of the Guitar Hero franchise.

The designers of GH1/2 went off to make Rock Band while new coders (Neversoft) made GH3 for Activision. Then, to compete with Rock Band, they had to bring the full band element in for GH4, aka GH:World Tour.

It's a shame, I think. Harmonix were better at making guitar games than Neversoft but then, as purely a guitar game, I don't think Rock Band is as good as Guitar Hero, primarily because each song is also chosen with an eye on the other instruments' parts.

So, as I see it, when Harmonix and the Guitar Hero brand went their seperate ways, we ended up with two guitar games that weren't as good as Guitar Hero 2.

To be honest though, if you stay with one game for a while, whichever you play first will probably be the one you like most as it's the one on which you'll experience the satisfaction of the learning curve, trying a song one day and it being impossible only to beat it the following week, then come back and 100% it a few months later with ease.

One big criticism of GH3 is that the gap between Medium and Hard is too great. If you find that, that's probably the time to pick up Rock Band, as Rock Band Hard is easier than Guitar Hero III Hard.

Anyway, now is time to start ignoring us bitter, mind-made-up fan(boy)s and just start enjoying your new purchase.

Professor Abronsius

23-01-2009, 21:47

Was jammin (buggering up my notes) with Joe Walsh today!!! :notworthy

Having never played any of the previous games i got GH4 just with the Guitar mainly as i said before due to the track listing.

Played it now for bit and am hooked!!! Been doing it on the medium level i think, so not too hard. Does it get really hard as you up the level, i.e. do you end up playing the full song... ?

Tom Whitaker

23-01-2009, 21:58

On Expert, you play something for every note, using all five buttons and three-note chords at times.

Hard is the same but with fewer notes to play.

Professor Abronsius

23-01-2009, 22:01

Will need to spend the coming months learning then. :D

internetuser

23-01-2009, 23:25

£19.99 for the solos GH:WT or 39.99 with the guitar at Morrisons.

LordoftheDance

24-01-2009, 22:30

3 - For Rock Band YES, you need a guitar controller. For Guitar Hero NO, you can use a pad.

I'm stuck - I received Guitar Hero : World Tour today, but without the guitar.

It won't let me play anything without it though - even just using the ps3 controller, it says i must attach a drum/microphone/guitar controller to proceed.

This is whether I want to play online, do solo career mode, anything.

Very disappointed. :(

kanedaa

24-01-2009, 23:00

Hmm, sorry about that. GH3 definitely works with the pad, I guess they changed it for World Tour because the pad is linked to the vocal part of the game.

PlexShaw

24-01-2009, 23:29

To be fair, it is completely pointless to playing these games without the appropriate peripheral.

Toge

24-01-2009, 23:47

anyone know of any videos on youtube with really good male vocalists on guitar hero/rock band?

Mills

25-01-2009, 01:20

Billtvshow (http://www.youtube.com/user/billtvshow) is the obvious one. Although he doesn't seem to have as much on his channel as I was expecting. Not sure about anyone with more content.

PlexShaw

25-01-2009, 09:05

I like IcemageJT (http://uk.youtube.com/user/IcemageJT)'s videos. They're particularly useful because you can hear his voice very clearly.

johnrevill

25-01-2009, 09:31

Is the idea of the above vocals to cheat at the game? (ie put your GH/RB microphone next to your PC speakers??)

LordoftheDance

25-01-2009, 09:33

Hmm, sorry about that. GH3 definitely works with the pad, I guess they changed it for World Tour because the pad is linked to the vocal part of the game.

No worries, like I said earlier, I played Frequency and Amplitude and just assumed they'd be similar (they certainly looked so from the screenshots I'd seen) with hitting buttons on the pad at the right time to coincide with the notes on the screen.

I'll either sell on my GH:WT or try and pick up a cheap guitar! :)

PlexShaw

25-01-2009, 09:46

Is the idea of the above vocals to cheat at the game? (ie put your GH/RB microphone next to your PC speakers??)
No, and that wouldn't work anyway.

The idea is that you listen carefully to how the guy is singing the song because he is getting is right (as far as the game is concerned). You would then try and match that when singing it for yourself.

LordoftheDance

25-01-2009, 18:47

lentini

25-01-2009, 18:54

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what microphone would be good and work with Guitar Hero 3 and 4?

you can't use a microphone with GH3

Drysolder

25-01-2009, 19:35

Is the idea of the above vocals to cheat at the game? (ie put your GH/RB microphone next to your PC speakers??)

No, as people have tried that and it doesn't work.

LordoftheDance

25-01-2009, 19:39

you can't use a microphone with GH3

Thank you - I've amended my question.

PlexShaw

25-01-2009, 23:54

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what microphone would be good and work with Guitar Hero 4?

Would this one be ok?

Logitech mic (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=8&url=http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000W9J0RI/thedvdforums-21)

...or are there any other cheaper ones out there that will still work?
That microphone would be perfect. I have the same one, which I use on the Xbox 360 (all the mics are cross-compatible and I wanted a black one to match my Elite :dork:), and it's a billion times better than the one in the bundle IMO. :thumbs:

Dave h-j

09-05-2009, 09:06

Right - a Wii drum questions.

I have the guitar from GHIII and have played both GHIII/GH:WT (on my Wii) and RB2 (on a friends PS3).

However, I'm still confused about which instruments are supposed to be the best and whether they are cross-compatible (or whether there is any loss of functionality)..

The main reason for buying a pack would be for the drums (as my mum would never left me have one, I got an elec guitar instead which I never really got the hang of).

Are the Wii drums any good, or should I just go out any buy a cheap 360 :nuts:

LordoftheDance

09-05-2009, 10:09

Hopefully this will help. :)

http://www.joystiq.com/Instrument-Compatibility-Matrix/

Tom Whitaker

09-05-2009, 10:48

Best band game - Rock Band 2
Best guitar controller - GH:III or GH:WT
Best drums - currently the GH:WT set or an imported Rock Band 2 set, but best to have the drum set for the game you're playing
Best platform - 360 (compared to the Wii, for DLC)

I hope you've got deep pockets :) Alternatively, yeah, the Wii drums are identical to the PS3/360 counterparts.

livingmydream

09-05-2009, 10:56

Can you buy the GH WT drum set on it's own?

Think my rock band one drums are on the way out.

RichB

09-05-2009, 11:52

I think you can now, tried them out in PC World and I couldn't get on with the kick pedal, for a non slip product it slides around an awful lot!

Professor Abronsius

09-05-2009, 11:56

Guitar Hero : World Tour Drum Kit (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=2&url=http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/9467302/Guitar-Hero-World-Tour-Xbox-360-Wireless-Drum-Kit-Controller/Product.html) :thumbs:

Herbal

09-05-2009, 12:07

Not sure if this has been posted.

My Brother has the wii world tour kit would the drums of this work on my 360, or would i need to buy the 360 version?

thanks

lentini

09-05-2009, 12:25

My Brother has the wii world tour kit would the drums of this work on my 360, or would i need to buy the 360 version?

no, they need the Wiimote in the drums for it to work

Dave h-j

09-05-2009, 19:36

Hopefully this will help. :)

http://www.joystiq.com/Instrument-Compatibility-Matrix/

Thanks - according to this then my best bet would be the GH:WT drums as I could use these on RB2 as well.

I'm guessing though that the drums wouldn't match exactly with RB2 onscreen?

msm13579

10-05-2009, 10:29

Thanks - according to this then my best bet would be the GH:WT drums as I could use these on RB2 as well.

I'm guessing though that the drums wouldn't match exactly with RB2 onscreen?

yeah they don't quite match, i recon if your new to it though you'll get used to it no problem. i'm really used to using rock band drums so get really confused/annoyed when playing my mates GH:WT drums.