Eurovision - May 24th 8pm BBC One. Let's see if the rest of Europe still hates us!

[Marts62]

Spoke too soon hahahaha!

[statto]

How rubbish our song was we have more points than we deserve. Sweden were way better than us, and they only have 5.

[c4lln]

go germany!!!

[degeneration]

Gwenrmany? 12 points? wtf?

[KennyVader]

Will they have to get a farmer to read out the Polish vote, because there's nobody else left in the country?

[statto]

Why's Heather McCartney announcing for Israel?

[mklion123]

Will they have to get a farmer to read out the Polish vote, because there's nobody else left in the country?

:lol: your assuming he was allowed to vote.

[c4lln]

Will they have to get a farmer to read out the Polish vote, because there's nobody else left in the country?

they must have all been at work tonight, because we never gave poland many points.

[c4lln]

sure this is fixed, terry can predict the voting:suspect:

[Marts62]

Miss Romania wins the Judges vote.
Make that Miss Portugal.

[KennyVader]

Don't worry, Norway will give us some points. I think they still give us a Christmas Tree every year.

[statto]

sure this is fixed, terry can predict the voting:suspect:

:lol:

They used to say the voting was political, so they threw it open to the public. It then became even more political, though it makes sense that music sensibilities would be similar in areas that are geographically close.

[Marts62]

They give us the Christmas tree BECAUSE they don't vote for us.

[c4lln]

top 3 are all ****

[Marts62]

I wouldn't begrudge Greece, Armenia or Ukraine the win. It has nothing to do with them being cute-looking. cough

[stu_69]

Terry is getting more and more depressed as the voting goes on

[mklion123]

they come over here, take our jobs and cant be arsed to vote for us!!!!

[c4lln]

not even the polaks gave us any points, obviously they dont come here for the music.

[c4lln]

look familiar?
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm709269760/tt0116778

[Marts62]

10 points go to... Surrey?! What's that girl on!?

[KennyVader]

I think Microsoft must have made that progress bar at the bottom of the table, we're well over half way through but the colours of the bar don't say so.

[statto]

All my top five are in the top seven at the moment. It's not hard to spot what will go down well across Europe, and we're horrendous at picking anything good. When we put up a decent song* it normally does pretty well.

*Ooh Ahh Just a Little Bit, Love Shine a Light, One Step Out of Time.

[BaggyDave]

I think Microsoft must have made that progress bar at the bottom of the table, we're well over half way through but the colours of the bar don't say so.


Fits in well with the Bad Voting :)

[Sam]

look familiar?
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm709269760/tt0116778

Yep, looks just like your post no.232. No one laughed then for a reason and it wasn't because we all missed your post :p

[statto]

Lets see Terry moan about Ireland's political vote.

[KennyVader]

lol good old Irish!

[stu_69]

there you go UK we have bumped you up a wee bit.

[c4lln]

All my top five are in the top seven at the moment. It's not hard to spot what will go down well across Europe, and we're horrendous at picking anything good. When we put up a decent song* it normally does pretty well.

*Ooh Ahh Just a Little Bit, Love Shine a Light, One Step Out of Time.

are you trying to say most europeans have horrendous taste in music or that most are deaf?

[mklion123]

I had a feeling Ireland were gonna give more to Poland

[stu_69]

look familiar?
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm709269760/tt0116778

http://www.imdb.com/media/rm4076837120/tt0445934

[statto]

are you trying to say most europeans have horrendous taste in music or that most are deaf?

European taste in music is pretty bad, but the better songs on the night are gravitating toward the top of the table, regardless of location. Our song tonight wasn't the worst, but I'd have been shocked if we cracked the top twenty.

[stu_69]

Russia has this in the bag

[davey1970]

omg what is this swedish guy on?

[statto]

How smashed was the Swedish guy!

[stu_69]

Was that dude on drugs?

[Marts62]

If we upped sticks and moved our island into the middle of the Baltic, we'd have this contest sewn up!

[DeadYankee]

Sweden should win just based on that bell end

[mklion123]

Was that dude on drugs?

isn't everyone?

[statto]

Mathematically impossible for Russia to lose now.

[DJBenson]

Am I the only one that likes the UK entry? Ghey-disco-tastic :D

This is depressing, can we just not bother next year. I cannot believe Spain's entry (AKA Avid Merrion) is spanking the UK's entry :nuts:

[KennyVader]

How can that Russian crap have won?

I wanted more Secret Combination :(

[c4lln]

How can that Russian crap have won? :(

beats me:thinking:

[Marts62]

Me too, just as well I'm recording this.

[mklion123]

how come serbia and montenegro play as one football team but sing seperately in eurovision?

[DJBenson]

That Greek bird is fit as ****!!

[mjb1975]

how come serbia and montenegro play as one football team but sing seperately in eurovision?

They don't anymore - just Serbia nowadays, with Montenegro being far, far worse.

[c4lln]

well russia have won the european friends contest.
what a bag of crap!!!
won with a song that is a total rip off of another.

[stu_69]

wasn't this russian bloke in the eurovision before?

[statto]

Terry's lost it. He should just admit our song (and performer) was rubbish.

[degeneration]

Time for us to pull out and start a Westeurovison or a Worldvision.

[Marts62]

Sir Terry slashes wrists as UK come last again!

Never mind Tel. Chin up.

[DeadYankee]

wasn't this russian bloke in the eurovision before?

I'd say it was pretty certain that he's been entered a few times

[Tony Ferrino]

Terry sounded thoroughly ****** off! I reckon he might quit after this one.

[mklion123]

glad to hear Terry questioning wether its worth carrying on.

[Chris]

wasn't this russian bloke in the eurovision before?

He came 2nd in 2006

[c4lln]

ukavision!!!!
worse case scenario 4th

[Euler]

Tel hinting that he doesn't want to present this shambles next year?

[Boink!]

glad to hear Terry questioning wether its worth carrying on.
He'll do Russia, but I think he right about chucking it all in, certainly if it's no fun any more.

[Marts62]

I blame Gordon Brown! And Lorraine Kelly.

[Drysolder]

Just tuned in to see the last few countries voting and they don't even hide it anymore.

The BBC need to think long and hard whether it's a value for money payment putting into the EBU for this in future.

[Euler]

Just tuned in to see the last few countries voting and they don't even hide it anymore.

The BBC need to think long and hard whether it's a value for money payment putting into the EBU for this in future.

ISTR that the UK automatically qualifies every year because we're one of the big four in terms of financial contribution. Based on the reception of our songs and the blatant block voting, it is surely a waste of revenue!

[no flipping]

Wouldn't be the same without Terry..he makes me larf!

[stu_69]

I think Terry Wogan is right. Gone are the days when it was a lottery and all about the song. Whats the point in entering if all the neighbouring countries (countries which fought wars to be free off) vote for each other?

It's just pointless now.

Spain (and Ireland) had it right just enter a joke of a song and stick two fingers up and the whole shebang.

[mklion123]

I think they should get Americans to vote, they wont have heard of half of the baltic states, let alone want to vote for the bloody communist's;)

[Boink!]

ISTR that the UK automatically qualifies every year because we're one of the big four in terms of financial contribution. Based on the reception of our songs and the blatant block voting, it is surely a waste of revenue!
Germany have expressed the fact they might pull out of the contest (& presumably funding too). Hasn't Austria already stopped competing?

[d.boyd1uk]

our song was naff though, we take it to serious, time for something different.
me and the missus wanted greece and latvia to win.

[c4lln]

that russian song sounds relly familiar, cannot figure out where they nicked the tune from.

[KennyVader]

Wow that Dr Who trailer afterwards looked damn good though!

[c4lln]

Wow that Dr Who trailer afterwards looked damn good though!

damn it, sat through 3 hours of crap and missed the only interesting thing.

[DeadYankee]

that russian song sounds relly familiar, cannot figure out where they nicked the tune from.


Vera Lynn probably - gawd bless old England them bleeding foreigners stitched us up good 'n proper me old china

[espy]

There were strong rumours going around a few months ago to say that Putin had decided that Russia would win at any cost.
Looks like they called in a few favours and debts plus, most of the countries giving them the high scores have Russian installed/managed phone systems so the votes would probably be relatively easily fixed.
Hopefully the organisers will carry out an investigation into the voting patterns in connection with Russia.

[Mr Nice]

the blatant block votingIndeed, you expect some of it and it's almost part of the charm, but the amount of Azerbaijan/Ukraine/Russian combos for the top 3 spots wasn't even funny, most blatantly once the combined weight knocked Greece of it's 2nd spot.

[mklion123]

gotta say I didn't rate the Russian song at all, I dont mind a bit of friendly voting here and there, but when you can clearly see songs being voted for that shouldn't have got a point never mind make it half way up the table, it's not really a contest.

[Euler]

Wow that Dr Who trailer afterwards looked damn good though!

That's the start of the Steve Moffat double episode, isn't it? :clap: His stuff is always good. Glad to hear he's taking over as head writer and exec producer. :clap::clap:

Interesting thing is 'the darkness' mentioned in the trailer is a valid observation under current astronomical theory - if the universe is expanding then eventually the distance between neighbouring bodies will be so great that light cannot travel between them.

[hedgie]

I think it's time to give it up and reduce our funding to the same level as the rest. I'm happy to see us go out in the Semi-Finals if it means that we don't have to waste the BBC's money on this Eastern Europe back-slapping event.

But I would still miss watching for the comedy value, so I wouldn't want us to pull out entirely!

[Richie]

How much licence fee money is wasted on this every year?
It's time to just let the rest of Europe carry on with it, that's if they can pay for it if we remove our funding that is. It's not even fun and camp anymore just pathetic and boring. Why does the UK continue to be a part of this?

[mrsteve]

Sigh. Thetop 4/5 were utter bilge. But, enjoyed the Turkish entry and - bizarrely - the Croatians and Bosnians. Best of all was the French, which I think I might actually track down. Great song.

[c4lln]

sebastian tellier, divine was the french entry.in my opinion by far the best.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz58Hw9hldw

[PockyMonster]

Did the audio ever work on BBC HD ? I was watching the boxing so only had chance to flick over about 20 minutes in and it was only the centre channel on. I was thinking one of the countries were brave for doing an a capella.

[Andyneilg]

To me the Russian winning song has more than a hint of Cat Stevens' 'Wild World' about it. But then again, so has 'It's a Sin'...............

[Woz]

sebastian tellier, divine was the french entry.in my opinion by far the best.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vz58Hw9hldw

LOL - love the casual violence and smoking in the video!
Should definitely have won - the show's sadly pointless now :(

[Robby]

can anyone think of the song russia have totally ripped off? sounds exactly like another song.

Did you figure it out? as it's still bugging me.

[neverland]

While we're pulling our money out of Eurovision, can we also stop spending money on covering the World Cup, because those nasty foreigners never let us win that either?

Jeez, talk about bad losers. And listening to the Radio 2 news this morning, the BBC seem to be having trouble accepting that the UK lost. We didn't come joint last, we came last. FFS if one of the big four doesn't even understand how the scoring system works, no wonder we're a laughing stock.

I'm getting pretty tired of Wogan throwing his toys out of his pram too. It would be nice to think he will retire, but I suspect it was just the equivalent of the elderly relative claiming they "probably won't be here next Christmas". He'll be back again claiming it's all just a bit of nonsense beforehand, and then getting all mardy about it when he's got some drink inside him. Although fair play to him, is it me, or was last night the first time in 37 years he didn't roll out the "it's a far cry from Pearl Carr and Teddy Johnson" line?

As I understand it, the winner is (inexplicably) popular in Russia, and so is likely to also have something of a following in neighbouring countries. Whereas our X Factor runner-up is pretty much unknown outside of ITV's broadcasting range. So I don't think you have to start making up conspiracy theories about Putin threating to cut off Europe's gas supplies to explain what happened. God knows, as a Divine Comedy fan, I'd most likely vote for them if they represented Ireland. Although sadly "My Lovely Horse" or "Trafalgar" wouldn't be eligible now.

If anything, I think far more controversial last night was how badly Sweden fared. Classic catchy power-pop performed really well, and ended up being beaten by Spain's "comedy" act. Surely voters aren't so shallow that they'd be put off by the fact that plastic surgery has left her looking like a deformed mutant? [reads previous 16 pages] Oh right, they would.

Now this might sound odd after 5 paragraphs of grumbling, but please can we stop taking this so seriously? For 7 hours a year (or 3 if you're a part-timer) we're provided with some of the most bizarre, camp, ridiculous nonsense know to humanity. From Latvian Aqua-inspired pirates to Finnish Manowar-wannabes. Occasionally there's even a real gem amongst the dross (I suspect I'll be checking out Sebastian Tellier's album - although I doubt it'll be as good as Among the Sun by 2000's runners up Brainstorm), but mostly there's lots and lots of laughs. Certainly more laughs in one ESC final than every episode of Two Pints of Lager combined.

So please, can we stop all the conspiracy nonsense, and start asking the questions that such an event really deserves. Like who out of the Bosnian bloke and the Spanish bloke would you be least likely to let babysit your kids? Is the old Croatian bloke known as Seddy Five to his friends? Is the Greek woman being 100% truthful when she claims she's not easy? Has Rhydian been cloned to provide backing dancers for Georgia. And what the **** has happened to Charlotte Nillsen's face?

[babelfishy]

I used to watch this avidly waiting for votes and getting excited when it looked like we were doing well. However, you know now that no matter what our song is like we are going to come last.

It needs to be split into East and West and then the Eastern countries can carry on voting for each other every year and they can fund their own competition. No point us carrying on or funding it any more.

I didn't think our song was good enough to win, so Im not annoyed about that but the way some of these countries give each other all the votes is just blatant voting for neighbours no matter what the song. Its a farce and I don't blame Terry if he pulls out.

I think you are wrong, Neverland, in saying that we are just being petulant because the foreigners don't let us win. Its the fact that we could have the best song ever written and would still get hardly any votes that is annoying people. If we had swopped our song with Russia, we would still have come last and Russia would still have done well and probably have still won too.

By the way, I thought Andy performed our entry really well and he deserves a pat on the back!

[hedgie]

Did you figure it out? as it's still bugging me.

I could even hum the tune that they were ripping off, but can't remember where it's from. For some reason I think it was a TV theme tune and possibly a medical or police drama, but just can't remember which one!

While we're pulling our money out of Eurovision, can we also stop spending money on covering the World Cup, because those nasty foreigners never let us win that either?

At least the World Cup is generally only decided on the pitch and is a proper competition.

I don't think our song deserved to win. I think it probably was just about good enough to scrape into the top half, maybe the top 10. There were a significant number of songs that were worse that finished above us due to the voting from the 'usual suspects'.

As I said above, I don't think we should pull out, we should enter on the same terms as all the other countries, which means paying less money. I think it would actually benefit us to go through the Semi-Final stage, as I'm sure there is some resentment towards the countries with a guaranteed final place.

[davey1970]

it would actually help if we DID have the best song ever though wouldnt it.

i just see tw's comments as more in the role he plays of moaning so and so, which i find a funny role. i didnt see it as some profound declaration.

--- ive no idea about the funding aspect, or guaranteed final places, but the latter sounds daft and yeah surely we should just put the same in as everyone else.

[GlennSh]

so how much DO we fund for this contest every year ?

[stu_69]

I thought Ireland were also guaranteed a final place every year due to the amount of money they spent on it in the 90's (3 wins, Riverdance etc) but maybe the fact that Ireland has tried hard to enter the worst songs and not win it for a long time has removed them from the core countries.

[Boink!]

it would actually help if we DID have the best song ever though wouldnt it.
No, not now it wouldn't.
Also agree with a split contest with the ex-Soviet block hosting their own show, especially with 45 countries now taking part (47 if you include Italy and Austria who already no longer take part). Wonder how the split would be made?

[hedgie]

so how much DO we fund for this contest every year ?

Who knows, but it must be a lot, because it's worth a guaranteed place in the final.

it would actually help if we DID have the best song ever though wouldnt it.

You'd like to think so, but I doubt it would make a significant difference.

Maybe we should try and get the Rolling Stones or any other top British band with a massive profile across the whole of Europe to enter with the strongest song they have that is eligible. Hit them with popularity and quality.

If we prove by doing this that we still can't get any votes, then we just have to give them what they deserve - Roland Rat and Kevin the Gerbil every year until the political voting is controlled!

[cedge]

I thought they were introducing rules this year to prevent/limit neighbourhood countries voting for each other....or is this planned for next year?

[KennyVader]

so how much DO we fund for this contest every year ?

Probably a fraction of the cost we would have to pay if we actually did win it! All those fancy lights and the stage and logistics of last night's eurofest won't be cheap.

Plus you just know that the way things always seem to be with big events in this country, most of the seats in the place would go to corporate hospitality and making scumbags richer, with very few people with an actual desire to see it being able to get a ticket.

I think the best possible result would be to repeatedly come second :thumbs:

[neverland]

At least the World Cup is generally only decided on the pitch and is a proper competition.

I assume you've been lucky enough to never work with a Derby County fan. Whilst you might think football is a proper competition, as I understand it from a former colleague the referees are so corrupt they conspire to ensure Derby are "robbed" almost every week. :lol:

Unfortunately, there's no way of scientifically measuring the quality of music and it all comes down to opinions. Which means people are going to disagree. I mean is there any one out there at all who believes the chart show tonight will feature the 40 best songs available at the moment?

So whilst I agree with the suggestion that the winner is a Russian Justin Timberlake - he's a dullard who's career seems not to be based on musical talent, but on his gusset-moistening ability - I can see how this would lead to him getting lots of votes from surrounding countries. Just like it doesn't surprise me (but does sadden me) when the original Timberlake stinks up the charts again.


I don't think our song deserved to win. I think it probably was just about good enough to scrape into the top half, maybe the top 10.

You see again, we're into the realm of opinions again. I'll certainly agree that it didn't deserve to win. I'll go so far as to say it shouldn't have come last (that honour should have gone to Germany and their Gemini-tastic performance). But I certainly think it should have been wallowing amongst the bland forgetable cack near the bottom (along with the winner).


As I said above, I don't think we should pull out, we should enter on the same terms as all the other countries, which means paying less money. I think it would actually benefit us to go through the Semi-Final stage, as I'm sure there is some resentment towards the countries with a guaranteed final place.

Not only is there resentment, but the semi-final gives an extra chance to lodge the song in viewers' heads. However, as I understand it, the BBC aren't keen because they don't want to broadcast 3 hours on a Saturday night when there's the risk of a tiny audience due to there not being a UK act to "cheer on".

Thing is, I'm not sure how disproportionate the big four's contributions are, whether it's just a Eurovision thing, or applies to the EBU in general. Would the contest collapse without France, Spain, Germany and us? I really don't know. Anyone know how to get hold of the figures?

Still, I'd personally much rather the BBC wasted money on amusing nonsense like this once a year than paying for the rights to advertise Camelot's wassock-tax every Saturday night.

[neverland]

Probably a fraction of the cost we would have to pay if we actually did win it! All those fancy lights and the stage and logistics of last night's eurofest won't be cheap.

As I understand it, lots of sponsorship deals have meant that the eastern european countries have managed to host it without going bust. Although that's not an option for the advert-free BBC.

Aren't Ireland unique in actually making a few bob out of Eurovision? RTE get a cut of the dosh from all the Riverdance shows.


I think the best possible result would be to repeatedly come second :thumbs:

You do know we actually hold the record for most second placings don't you? Plus, I could be wrong, but isn't it that case that nobody who performed second (like we did last night) has ever won? :dork:

[KennyVader]

As I understand it, lots of sponsorship deals have meant that the eastern european countries have managed to host it without going bust. Although that's not an option for the advert-free BBC.

You'd never know that the BBC were advert-free judging from their coverage of the Chelsea Flower Show last week - every time they mentioned the event it was always "Here at the Chelsea Flower Show (sponsored by Marshalls Paving)" or what not.


You do know we actually hold the record for most second placings don't you? Plus, I could be wrong, but isn't it that case that nobody who performed second (like we did last night) has ever won? :dork:

Hmmm we need agnetha to answer that. Where is she anyway.

[gooseUK]

Maybe we should try and get the Rolling Stones or any other top British band with a massive profile across the whole of Europe to enter with the strongest song they have that is eligible. Hit them with popularity and quality.

Me and the Mrs were actually discussing the same thing when the voting was unfolding last night: send in an uber legend and see how that fairs (McCartney was mentioned). But, let's be honest: no one with any real status would touch this, would they? And, even then, what with the dreaded "Song for Europe" vote, there's no assurance that someone like the Stones, etc, would even get voted to be our representative anyway! It would probably be some idiots pretending to be air hostesses/pilots or some such novelty rubbish!

That's why, when there was all that talk of Morrisey having a crack my first thought was, 'no way will the UK public, en mass, vote for him." That's probably what he realised too?

I don't think we had the greatest song last night - I think that would be France, which got my vote - but I certainly think it was better than at least half the entries and, on song and performance merit, deserved to be in the top 20 at least.

Still, what do I know: the UK voted in mass for Greece, which was just godawful imho! Looking at how well the tanned-tastic, leggy, plastic blondes/brunette popettes did with the europop-dance tracks last night, maybe we need to send in someone like Girls Aloud?

Or, if your going for the boyband/ballad route, send in Take That!

I certainly don't think that, because the UK inject so much cash into Eurovision that that, somehow, gives us some right to regular, high votes, but, like others on here, I think it should give us a right to a fair chance. Which just isn't going to happen, sadly.

I like the idea of splitting into two seperate East / West competitions, but I'm guessing that would go against the whole concept of 'bringing Europe together'?

I kind of hope that Terry will quit, as much as I love him on Eurovision. He IS Eurovision for me: heck, he even got name checked during last night's show. I think his leaving would make quit a potent statement. Not that I can see much being changed with the voting, to be honest.

I'm listening to Pet Shop Boys on the radio now - THERE'S the kind of act the UK should send to Eurovision! Big, electro, campy and catchy!

[JohnMac]

I don't have much faith/trust in telephone voting after recent TV scandals. I find it hard to believe lots of different countries voted consistently for Russia and Greece like they did. It wouldn't surprise me if the winners were known before the show even started.

[Boink!]

Me and the Mrs were actually discussing the same thing when the voting was unfolding last night: send in an uber legend and see how that fares (McCartney was mentioned). But, let's be honest: no one with any real status would touch this, would they? And, even then, what with the dreaded "Song for Europe" vote, there's no assurance that someone like the Stones, etc, would even get voted to be our representative anyway! It would probably be some idiots pretending to be air hostesses/pilots or some such novelty rubbish!
But none of the other 5 acts that were in "Song for Europe" this year were much cop at all. Is that the best we can produce with song and artist? It seems to be all tied up with some secret group of TV / music producers or stage school, do it their way or not at all.

Plus we have to contend with the fickle voting public that helped Michelle McManus win Pop Idol in 2003 with in excess of 6.5 million votes. Despite not being that much of a singer and apart from the winning single release, nothing came of her career. Regardless, people looked at her and thought, "Let's vote for the fattie for a laff."

That's why, when there was all that talk of Morrisey having a crack my first thought was, 'no way will the UK public, en mass, vote for him." That's probably what he realised too?
Morrisey was told he had to perform with 5 other acts and then try & get voted in, rather than giving him the automatic slot to do what ever he wanted. So he said no.

I'm listening to Pet Shop Boys on the radio now - THERE'S the kind of act the UK should send to Eurovision! Big, electro, campy and catchy!
Agree with the PSB, but that'd never happen.

[PockyMonster]

... when the original Timberlake stinks up the charts again.

Hmm can't say I agree with this. I'm not a fan of manufactured talentless pop by any means, but Timberlake is in a class of his own compared to his contemporaries. The guy puts on a phenomenal live show, and really shouldn't be looked down at due to the type of music he performs. He also seems a funny guy too, see Dick In A Box (http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=51414).

Most of my friends are into hip hop, hardcore etc.. but we all agree: Timberlake is the man :D



Watching my V+d Eurovision now, sound properly kicks in dd5.1 at the 33min mark, phew! Didn't miss anything good it seems.. ie the UKs 'effort'. Finland up now, awesome :D

edit : speak too soon, 1hr2 in and everything kills and a very loud tone and repeated 'THIS IS THE VOTING CIRCUIT FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM' has kicke in for 60 secs. ha, screwup after screwup.

[mklion123]

Hmm can't say I agree with this. I'm not a fan of manufactured talentless pop by any means, but Timberlake is in a class of his own compared to his contemporaries. The guy puts on a phenomenal live show, and really shouldn't be looked down at due to the type of music he performs. He also seems a funny guy too, see Dick In A Box (http://www.nbc.com/Saturday_Night_Live/video/play.shtml?mea=51414).

Most of my friends are into hip hop, hardcore etc.. but we all agree: Timberlake is the man :D



Watching my V+d Eurovision now, sound properly kicks in dd5.1 at the 33min mark, phew! Didn't miss anything good it seems.. ie the UKs 'effort'. Finland up now, awesome :D

edit : speak too soon, 1hr2 in and everything kills and a very loud tone and repeated 'THIS IS THE VOTING CIRCUIT FROM THE UNITED KINGDOM' has kicke in for 60 secs. ha, screwup after screwup.

the fact is the BBC can do what they like, they know the licence fee will never be taken away........
at least the other HD channels will have to apease sponsors.

[davey1970]

i can see girls aloud doing it (as someone mooted) and spinning it to be a "cool" "fun" thing for them to do.

[bigman]

I assume you've been lucky enough to never work with a Derby County fan. Whilst you might think football is a proper competition, as I understand it from a former colleague the referees are so corrupt they conspire to ensure Derby are "robbed" almost every week. :lol:

Jeez - if things weren't bad enough for us Derby fans we even get dragged into the Eurovision fiasco now as well! And we got less points that Andy Abraham! :cry: (Your ex-colleague is a fool by the way and doesn't represent any other Derby fan).

But on the subject of Eurovision - does it really matter if the UK enter it? Seems to me that these days the British public just want to see the campness of the whole thing.

When was the last time that a UK entry was even a hit in this country? Andy Abraham has stormed in at number 67 on the singles chart this week so it's not as if we're even that keen on it.

[Gizmo]

i can see girls aloud doing it (as someone mooted) and spinning it to be a "cool" "fun" thing for them to do.

It has to be the way to go next year - them, Take That or even Robbie. Send them in with a decent song and see whether the voting is as rigged/biased as it appears.

[James45]

Paraaya Paraaya!

I've still got that damn Spanish song in my head!

[davey1970]

lol, was damn addictive.

[bigman]

It has to be the way to go next year - them, Take That or even Robbie. Send them in with a decent song and see whether the voting is as rigged/biased as it appears.

It would depend on finding an artist who was willing to do it (and whose management/record company thought it was a good idea). What would any of those acts actually gain from doing it?

I suspect that if a 'major' artist was actually willing to do it they'd have tried that route before now.

Besides - just entering a big name artist is hardly proving that it's "all about the song" is it?

(And you'd have to make sure that Robbie didn't start "rapping" halfway through.)

[Kevb]

lol, was damn addictive.

Sing along :lol:

Perrea, perrea

El chiki chiki mola mogollón
Lo bailan en la China y también en Alcorcón
Dale chiki chiki a esa morenita
Que el chiki chiki la pone muy tontita

Lo baila José Luis
Lo baila Hugo Chávez
Lo baila Mariano
Mi amol ya tu sabes

Lo bailan los broder
Lo baila mi hermano
Lo baila mi mulata
Con la braga en la mano

Y el chiki chiki se baila así:
¡Uno! El breikindance
¡Dos! El crusaíto
¡Tres! El Maiquelyason
¡Cuatro! El Robocop

Baila el chiki chiki
Baila el chiki chiki
Lo bailan los heavies
Y también los frikis

Lo bailan en la cárcel
Lo bailan en la escuela
Lo baila mi madre
Y también mi abuela

Lo canta el tigre puma
Con su traje a rayas
Y Juan Carlos le dice:
“Por qué no te callas?”

En el velatorio del padre Damián
Pusieron chiki chiki y el muerto echó a bailar
Bailar, bailar, bailar…

Y el chiki chiki se baila así:
¡Uno! El breikindance
¡Dos! El crusaíto
¡Tres! El Maiquelyason
¡Cuatro! El Robocop

Perrea, perrea

Lo baila José Luis
Lo baila Hugo Chávez
Lo baila Mariano
Mi amol ya tu sabes

Lo bailan los broder
Lo baila mi hermano
Lo baila mi mulata
Con la braga en la mano

Y el chiki chiki se baila así:
¡Uno! El breikindance
¡Dos! El crusaíto
¡Tres! El Maiquelyason
¡Cuatro! El Robocop



English

Dance the chiki chiki

Dance doggystyle, dance doggystyle

The chiki chiki is so great
They dance it in China and also in Alcorcón
Give that mulatta chiki chiki
Because the chiki chiki drives her crazy

José Luis dances it
Hugo Chávez dances it
Mariano dances it
You know it, my love

The brothers dance it
My brother dances it
My mulatta dances it
With panties in her hand

And the chiki chiki is danced this way:
One – the breakdance
Two – the crossed step
Three – the Michael Jackson
Four – the Robocop

Dance the chiki chiki
Dance the chiki chiki
Heavies dance it
And so do freaks

They dance it in prison
They dance it at school
My mother dances it
And so does my grandmother

The puma sings it
With its striped costume
And Juan Carlos says:
“Why don’t you shut up?”

At Father Damien’s wake
They played the chiki chiki and the dead man started to dance
Dance, dance, dance…

And the chiki chiki is danced this way:
One – the breakdance
Two – the crossed step
Three – the Michael Jackson
Four – the Robocop

Dance doggystyle, dance doggystyle

José Luis dances it
Hugo Chávez dances it
Mariano dances it
You know it, my love

The brothers dance it
My brother dances it
My mulatta dances it
With panties in her hand

And the chiki chiki is danced this way:
¡ One – the breakdance
Two – the crossed step
Three – the Michael Jackson
Four – the Robocop

[davey1970]

i have to admit i was hoping someone might post a translation :-)

[Chris]

so how much DO we fund for this contest every year ?

We normally pay around 10% of the cost. The other members of the big four also pay around 10% each. The remaining is then split between the other countries with a large proportion from the host nation.

Last years Eurovision in 2007 cost around £10,000,000. So it would have cost us around £1,000,000 (~£300,000 per hour) which is no higher than other programming.

This year it's been reported that we paid less.

[neverland]

I suspect that if a 'major' artist was actually willing to do it they'd have tried that route before now.


Michael Ball claimed entering Eurovision damaged his credibility. :lol:

As much as we bitch about losing it, Eurovision is generally sneered/laughed at in this country. So I can't see anyone wanting to risk career suicide by taking part. I fear we're stuck with X Factor rejects. Maybe we could just liven it up a bit by sending Britain's Got Talent rejects with them to be their dancers.

[neverland]

Jeez - if things weren't bad enough for us Derby fans we even get dragged into the Eurovision fiasco now as well! And we got less points that Andy Abraham! :cry:

Sorry. As a Derby fan, you have enough suffering in your life without me adding to it. ;)

(Your ex-colleague is a fool by the way and doesn't represent any other Derby fan).

Yeah, we kind of figured that. We used to call him the Simple Man of Derbyshire, or SMOD for short. Perhaps I'm being a bit unfair really, as he never made claims of any conspiracy. It just never seemed strange to him to claim that Derby were in some way "robbed" (almost) every single week. Bless.

[c4lln]

[QUOTE=

As much as we bitch about losing it, Eurovision is generally sneered/laughed at in this country. So I can't see anyone wanting to risk career suicide by taking part. I fear we're stuck with X Factor rejects. Maybe we could just liven it up a bit by sending Britain's Got Talent rejects with them to be their dancers.[/QUOTE]

judging by most of the acts on eurovision i saw, surely all the above are far too talented.

[James45]

I've not read the whole thread but has anyone thought that rather than voting being totally political that the Eastern Bloc countries might just like Russian pop music more than some nobody from England writing 70s disco songs?

Dima Bilan is pretty famous in Russia.

[neverland]

I've not read the whole thread but has anyone thought that rather than voting being totally political that the Eastern Bloc countries might just like Russian pop music more than some nobody from England writing 70s disco songs?

Post 333 rambles vaguely in that direction at one point.

[anastasia]

I just got the notification e-mail from HMV to say that DVD for this years show is finally up for pre-order. It's due out on 16th June.

It's a 3 disc boxset and is only £9.99.
Eurovision 2008 DVD (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=10&url=http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=285;5;-1;-1&sku=757500)

[maddogsuk]

Lloyd Webber pens Eurovision song

Andrew Lloyd Webber is to help pick the UK's next Eurovision entry, in a overhaul of the BBC's selection show.

Lord Lloyd Webber will compose the UK's entry and embark on a search for the singer or group to perform the song.

Graham Norton will host BBC TV show Your Country Needs You to find new talent for the 2009 contest, after a string of poor results for the UK.

Lord Lloyd Webber said: "Win, lose or draw, I am looking forward to every minute of it."

The BBC show will follow a similar format to the successful How Do You Solve A Problem Like Maria? and I'd Do Anything, with Norton and Lord Lloyd-Webber at the helm.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7677612.stm

I can see Webber throwing a hissy fit if we come bottom 5 next year.

[KennyVader]

Hmmm must have run out of musicals to do, or west end theatres to stuff them in to.

Surprised that Lloyd Webber would get involved, everyone knows we just can't win this these days, pretty much just down to Tony Blair ******* the rest of Europe off.

[maddogsuk]

Opps wrong thread