having a nightmare with Lightroom

[callmecheez]

Anything I export from Adobe Lightroom -> jpeg ends up with the colours totally wrong. .

What am I doing wrong!

I've tried the different colour space settings in the export option, but they don't make a difference, any suggestions??

Many thanks! :thumbs:

[raymondlin]

export profiles, try a different one

[emeyedeejay]

http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=493881

:suspect:

[peg20]

Anything I export from Adobe Lightroom -> jpeg ends up with the colours totally wrong. .

What am I doing wrong!

I've tried the different colour space settings in the export option, but they don't make a difference, any suggestions??

Many thanks! :thumbs:

When you say that the colours look totally wrong, what are you using to view them? If it is a web browser, then very few of them observe the colour profiles and just assume everything to be sRGB. So you'd be best off using sRGB in the export if they are destined for the web or Photobox (for instance).

[callmecheez]

Thanks for the replies. .!

- I'll have to check what my camera's color profile is set to - I haven't changed it so I think it'll be whatever is default.

- I'm using Windows Picture and Fax viewer to check the jpegs after

- Just to clarify, I'm working with Jpegs from the camera, not RAW's on this occasion.


Lastly - I've just switched to a new monitor; and I downloaded a driver from LG's site which added a color profile to Windows' display property.

Should I use this, or is there some generic default color space profile I should use?

[callmecheez]

Oh, and if I find that my camera is not using sRGB I can fix that for future pics, but how can I fix it so the 100+ pics I want to export look okay?

Thanks again in advance

[callmecheez]

heres the properties of one of the images

http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/6811/image001vy4.png

I notice the colour depth is greater than the jpeg export value; is this an issue?

[peg20]

Lightroom will import them OK, as it is ICC-aware. You need to export them as sRGB if you want them to look fine everywhere. The colour profile that you got for your monitor tells windows how to display the colours correctly on the monitor. You should not be using it when exporting images. Think of the colour profile as like a language: A multilingual program like Lightroom can understand whatever language your camera speaks. But a web browser can only understand English. Therefore, you need to get Lightroom to save your photos in English for them to display correctly. Your monitor only understands French, but that's OK, because Lightroom will talk to it in French. You don't want to be saving your images in French, though. The underlying colour information is basically the same whatever profile you use, but particular profiles will be lacking in particular areas of the colourspace (like some languages lack words for particular expressions).

[callmecheez]

Cheers for the reply peg20. . I exported them at sRGB and they still looked 'blueish' compared to how they look inside lightroom.

The silly thing is; if I print-screen and paste into MS Paint they look fine! Annoying. .

[callmecheez]

^^

[Smigg]

I must admit I've noticed colour problems with Lightroom as well, but based around printing. I can't get any decent colour out of my printer when printing from Lightroom (everything either seems washed out, or covered in a blue-wash) whereas printing from just about anywhere else gives me fantastic colours. I've tried playing the the profiling and this made no difference whatsoever.

[callmecheez]

Annoying isn't it. .

[puddleduck]

I've not found any problems with colours from Lightroom. I shoot sRGB in camera, and make sure use sRGB within Lightroom.

There is no point in using Adobe or ProPhoto unless your monitor is caliberated for either of those workspaces (most monitors work in the sRGB gamut).

[peg20]

There is no point in using Adobe or ProPhoto unless your monitor is caliberated for either of those workspaces (most monitors work in the sRGB gamut).

That's not correct. Lightroom uses the profile of the file to interpret the colour values. But it uses the profile of your monitor to display them. You can work with files in whatever profile you like and Lightroom should display them properly.

The problem here seems to be due to either using an ICC-dumb application to display an image that is using a profile sufficiently different from sRGB or using an ICC-aware application that has been told the monitor's profile is something sufficiently different to what it is. I haven't worked out which yet.

As for Smigg, you are going to have to calibrate your monitor and printer to solve that problem I fear.

[puddleduck]

You seem to think you've disagreed with me, but you've basically repeated what I said. I shoot sRGB, so Lightroom is using an sRGB workflow...

Shooting Adobe in camera, but with a monitor thats caliberated to sRGB leads to problems...

You are over-comlicating things... colour space management is simple - stick to sRGB unless you have a very good reason not to. A "dumb ICC" app will almost certainly use sRGB by default. Monitor profiles are bad news, unless - as I said before, you have caliberated your monitor to the workspace colourspace.

Its when folks start using wacky colourspaces and oddball profiles is when they get problems. Keep it simply. Stick to sRGB.

[callmecheez]

Thanks for the replies, both.

Which colourspace for my monitor should I be using? (am using vista ultimate, if that matters)

[peg20]

You seem to think you've disagreed with me, but you've basically repeated what I said. I shoot sRGB, so Lightroom is using an sRGB workflow...

Shooting Adobe in camera, but with a monitor thats caliberated to sRGB leads to problems...

You are over-comlicating things... colour space management is simple - stick to sRGB unless you have a very good reason not to. A "dumb ICC" app will almost certainly use sRGB by default. Monitor profiles are bad news, unless - as I said before, you have caliberated your monitor to the workspace colourspace.

Its when folks start using wacky colourspaces and oddball profiles is when they get problems. Keep it simply. Stick to sRGB.

I am disagreeing with you because I have a good use for AdobeRGB and my monitor is not calibrated to use the same profile. I have a calibrated monitor with its own measured profile that is somewhat distinct from sRGB. I shoot in AdobeRGB since that gamut is better at capturing the colours I want to see. I have a calibrated printer that uses a third profile and this is where my photos typically end up. Lightroom works flawlessly and everything looks and prints just like it should. I only use the sRGB colourspace when I want to produce images for the web.

There is no "workspace colourspace" and as such, nothing to calibrate the monitor "to". The monitor is calibrated to achieve the best gamut and then a profile constructed that allows the software to render colours accurately.

However, in this case, I would advise the same course of action as yourself: Since the OP doesn't sound like he has an accurate monitor profile or printer profile, and is ultimately using an ICC-dumb final application, he's best of targetting sRGB from Lightroom. But the input colourspace (provided it's recorded correctly in the source file) should not matter -- Lightroom will process it correctly in any event.

[peg20]

Thanks for the replies, both.

Which colourspace for my monitor should I be using? (am using vista ultimate, if that matters)

Unless you have a profile that has been produced for your monitor, then use sRGB. Most applications are not ICC aware and will assume your monitor is sRGB and as such, most monitor manufacturers try to get their "out-of-the-box" configuration pretty close to this to please average consumers.

[callmecheez]

Thanks for all replies,

The fix was stupid / simple.

I uninstalled my monitors and let windows find them again, and all was fine...

Must've been a colour profile on my LG monitor driver or something?

Thanks again :)