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England squad for ICC World Twenty20:
Paul Collingwood (Durham, capt), Ravi Bopara (Essex), Stuart Broad (Leicestershire), Andrew Flintoff (Lancashire), James Kirtley (Sussex), Darren Maddy (Warwickshire), Kevin Pietersen (Hampshire), Matt Prior (Sussex, wkt), Chris Schofield (Surrey), Owais Shah (Middlesex), Ryan Sidebottom (Nottinghamshire), Jeremy Snape (Leicestershire), Vikram Solanki (Worcestershire), Chris Tremlett (Hampshire), Luke Wright (Sussex).
I like the look of that squad and think we've got a great chance of actually winning this Tournament with it. England are 11/1 and the major test nations outsider for the Tourney so I think we could really surprise people :thumbs:
Hmm no players from either of the finalists.
Jon Lewis is a particularly notable omission
Radiohead
06-08-2007, 13:55
Where the hell is Botham?
And Carl Greenidge!
From what I have seen of him he has never really impressed me that much. Going on Saturday's display I would have had Rob Key on the squad as he has hit something life five 50s in this years 20/20 competition.
From what I have seen of him he has never really impressed me that much. Going on Saturday's display I would have had Rob Key on the squad as he has hit something life five 50s in this years 20/20 competition.
He got four 50s and was the second highest run scorer in the tournament this year behind Luke Wright and Murray Goodwin and he played 6 games to their 9 each.
The squad isn't that bad looking at it on paper and I know Chris Schofield as done well in the 20/20 games this season but I would like to see him take part in the one day matches against India in a few weeks time.
My only concern now is the fielding ability of the side - do we have enough agile, quick fielders that can put pressure on the opposition?
One other concern is that these players are probably the best 20/20 players on the county circuit but how will they fair when they come up against the likes of Gilchrist and Brett Lee, especially those like Wright and Schofield who are novices at this international level.
lostboy182
07-08-2007, 12:45
Good point - Rob Key said as much as well. It's all very well being able to smack it against medium pacers, but who will take the attack to Shaun Tait?
Mind you, a v.nice century by Knight yesterday :)
Also, another potential name in the mix... Joe Denly?
Shaun Tait in 20/20 could be a total disaster - you need bowlers who can bowl straight, don't give away extras and can think on their feet. Not just chuck it down the pitch as fast as possible :lol:
20/20 is designed for TMPT(© Johnny Miller 96*)
Derek Pringle would have been ace.
Mind you, a v.nice century by Knight yesterday :)
I think you mean Wright, Luke Wright and what an innings it was. I thought Marshall hundred was something special but Luke's was something else.
I didn't see the whole game but from what I did see it just preoved that the selection of Wirght and Kirtley is spot on although it was appaling captaincy to give kirtley only 7 overs.
Lewis showed again that he was unlucky not to get picked for the World Cup
To be fair, Kirtley picked up all his 4 wickets at the end of the innings so had not contributed with the ball prior to this. Lewis took his at the start of their reply and yes he is a bit unlucky not to be in the squad.
And now Jeremy Snape shows why he has been picked by almost single handedly winning the match for Leicester against Derby with a 52 not out. I thought Derby had the match in the bag but Snape's innings and some good support from the tail-enders including an entertaining innings from Taylor saw then home.
I see Shoaib Akhtar has been sent home from Pakistan's squad for the 20/20 WC after attacking Mohammed Asif with a bat! :nuts:
The guy is on a one one mission to destroy what is left of his cricketing career. I can't see him playing for Pakistan again after this.
unrealnils
07-09-2007, 11:21
I see Shoaib Akhtar has been sent home from Pakistan's squad for the 20/20 WC after attacking Mohammed Asif with a bat! :nuts:
:lol:
The guy is on a one one mission to destroy what is left of his cricketing career. I can't see him playing for Pakistan again after this.
Such a wasted talent as well - he should have been one of Pakistan's best ever players
He could have been a major hit at this world cup but has thrown it all away. I also think he might be doing all he can to turn people against him with statements like this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6982724.stm
"Cricket should be about fast bowlers, not batsmen," he said. "Spectators like to see fast bowlers running in, hurting people, and pitches that make batsmen struggle for runs.
"But now we play on good batting tracks all the time, they've made laws about bouncers and free hits for a no-ball."
Because people go to a one day game to see teams get bowled out cheaply and the game over in no time :cuckoo:
lostboy182
11-09-2007, 15:57
1st match about to start! SA V West Indies.
Are any of the papers carrying a guide or fixture chart at all today?
I reckon it's going to be a massive hit this tournement. England have got to have a chance of winning the thing.
This tournament could be everything the World Cup wasn't. Some classic games at stadiums that are packed and watching thrilling enternaing cricket.
The Aussies are rightly favourites but just about all the teams have a decent chance, England included.
Cracking start from Gayle & Smith.
Just needs Smith to really move up the gears here
First 50 of the tournament from Gayle, off just 26 balls. This is good stuff to watch although I do keep channel hopping as I do live the Pro40 games as well.
Gayle looks in sensational form here!
Gayle looks in sensational form here!
He must be due to get out soon now then :suspect:
The West Indies are suited to this form of the game due to their natural attacking instincts.
A couple of massive sixes then off Pollock for Gayle - biggest ever opening partnership in International 20/20 cricket.
111 off 53 now Gayle :nuts:
EDIT: Pollock now 1 for 52 off 4 overs :lol:
Finally rid of Gayle with 117 off 57 - I think he was just knackered by the end.
Flat out, one of the very best innings you will see in Cricket :clap:
Windies losing momentum here - another wicket down now
EDIT: Chanderpaul out now - 188/5 and really need to step on the accelerator again here with some more boundaries with 10 balls left
Sheer brilliance from Gayle, unbelievable innings from him. This is a very challenging total and the likes of Smith are going to have to really go for it from the off.
TigaSefi
11-09-2007, 18:16
Smith is gone already but they have kept to the run rate reasonably well.
That injury to Smith defiantly curtailed his attacking play, even though he got 26 from 21 balls I don't think he would have had more had he not be hit first ball. He is such a major player for them that if his has broken something you do fear that South Africa might be in trouble already in this tournament.
can't believe the windies fielding, thats two easy catches dropped in quick sucession.
Utterly abysmal from the Windies - dreadful fielding, dreadful bowling and dreadful discipline. I knew they were 20-30 short with their lack of line and length but I didn't expect South Africa to be coasting to victory like this! :nuts:
they've completely imploded haven't they.
21 wides is simply unacceptable in ODI Cricket - in 20/20 its bordering on suicide!
they've completely imploded haven't they.
Definitely. Chris Gayle doesn't deserve to be on the loosing side but if the West Indies can't do the basics right then they deserve to be beaten. I thought South Africa might struggle after the injuries to their batsman but thanks to the West Indies bowlers that hasn't happened.
27 extras, that is just plan stupid :nuts:
To win by 8 wickets with an amazing 14 balls left is brilliant stuff by South Africa but simply shocking bowling and fielding from the West Indies who yet again showed their jekyll and hyde nature, but this time in the same match.
crazy, still fantastic entertainment. lets hope for plenty more like that.
snowball
11-09-2007, 20:26
can't find it mentioned anywhere on this thread but Pakistani channel Geo TV are showing all 20/20 world cup matches live. The feed is the same as the Sky Sports one, but the commentary is in Urdu. Definitely saves on the Sky Sports fees :)
Channel 815 on Sky Digital for those interested.
can't find it mentioned anywhere on this thread but Pakistani channel Geo TV are showing all 20/20 world cup matches live. The feed is the same as the Sky Sports one, but the commentary is in Urdu. Definitely saves on the Sky Sports fees :)
Channel 815 on Sky Digital for those interested.
I think I saw it mentioned in the free Sky Sports this weekend thread but I'm sure some in here will appreciate it repeating.
I think I saw it mentioned in the free Sky Sports this weekend thread but I'm sure some in here will appreciate it repeating.
It was me that posted it on here in that thread originally. I watched a few minutes of it but as I don't speak Urdu I quickly turned back to 401.
The smaller teams enter the competition tomorrow so I can see some large totals being racked up.
snowball
11-09-2007, 20:55
It was me that posted it on here in that thread originally. I watched a few minutes of it but as I don't speak Urdu I quickly turned back to 401.
The smaller teams enter the competition tomorrow so I can see some large totals being racked up.
you can tuen the sound down and listen to 5 Live Xtra/Radio 4 LW commentary instead ;) Still, can't complain, its saved me getting sky sports just for the one month.
lostboy182
11-09-2007, 21:37
The whole atmosphere with the crowds and music shows exactly what was wrong with the world cup early in the year.
Oh well, at least this should be a nice consolation :)
As South Africa are the home nation their opening game was always going to be a sell out. It will be interesting to see how full the stadiums are for the other teams although the signs so far for a really good tournament are good.
Some guy on R5 Live Xtra the other day was talking about how it's the equivalent of £10 to bag one of the best seats in any of the stadiums, so it's pretty dirt cheap. At the World Cup they made the mistake of charging fortunes, something the South African's certainly haven't repeated.
I think you'll see big crowds for most matches involving the big teams.
Good start for Kenya against New Zealand. They are 0-2 after just one over. :lol:
Edit: Now 0-3
Edit: 1-4 This could be over in less than half an hour at this rate.
The group games are priced as little as £1.50 for a open ticket on the grassy bank. It's only another couple of quid for an actual seat in a stand. They say they have priced it as they do for their domestic Twenty/20 matches.
The final had a top price ticket of £15 or something!
Just seen the game this morning is only half full but another game is there later today and you could get in to see the 2 games or something! So basically you are getting 2-4-1.
Well that was pretty straight forward for New Zealand :lol:
Next up at 12:30pm Pakistan to get humped by Scotland :|
10 overs gone, Pakistan 63-3 :D Hard to argue with that if you're a Scot.
Yep, Pakistan giving it a good shot at letting Scotland win the game ;)
TigaSefi
12-09-2007, 12:53
:lol: at Pakistan. I can see why teams prefer going second. Saying that I think Pakistan should have started with Shahid Afridi, 20/20 is perfect for his tendency to hit sixes for fun.
Afridi gone now. 108-5.
Now Younis Khan gone. 116-6 with 5 overs left.
Pakistan finish on 171-9. Really good effort that by the Scots. If they can get off to a good start, they'll have half a chance of winning this.
EDIT - Maybe not :lol: Scots made 120
Good start for Scotland then and an even better one by Kenya :D
I would be surprised if we saw an upset in the 20/20 like we did in the World Cup as I just can't see any of the big boys slipping up against the minnows.
Aussies 19/3 against Zimbabwe :nuts:
The Aussies are 3 wickets down already and only 19 runs on the board, they don't look comfortable on a very slow pitch. Gilchrist, Hayden and Ponting are the three men out.
4 down now with Hussey run out - 48/4! :eek:
150 is looking a very good score from here and I reckon that will be enough for the Aussies to be able to successfully defend. Perhaps the Aussies are paying for the long break some of them have had.
150 will be enough for them to win - 100/110 is what Zimbabwe need to bowl them out to have a real chance of actually winning!
86-5 now with Symonds stumped!
The Aussie players being interviewed sound remotely unconcerned so far - how amusing it would be to see Zimbabwe beat them today meaning they have to beat us to stay in the Comp :lol:
90 runs on the board with 5 left. The Aussies will be happy with 150. It's been very average stuff from the batsmen.
I'm not sure whether this is great bowling by the Zimbabwe folks, or whether it's rubbish batting from the Aussies @ 119-7. If the last 2 overs go for anything less than 20, the Aussies may have a problem here.
139-9 off 20 overs - fantastic work from Zimbabwe there to restrict the Aussies to that. Tough pitch to bat on or not, to take 9 Aussie wickets is a great achievement for them!
Australia finish on 139-9 :nuts:
If just one Zimbabwe batsmen makes a big knock, it could be big trouble.
I think that total will be enough or it should be for the Aussies to be able to defend. Good to see them on the back ffot for a change and credit to the Zimbabwe bowlers and their fielding which was everything that the West Indies wasn't yesterday - on a good line and length with the bowling and superb in the field.
Pisces Iscariot
12-09-2007, 17:50
It's a very good start by Zimbabwe!
6 overs gone. 47-1. Australia need a wicket, badly.
84 from 75 balls is definitely gettable but I just have this nagging feeling that they will fall short especially as the Aussies have now captured two wickets.
Three wickets down know as unless somebody plays out of their skin there is only going to be one winner from here on in.
Pisces Iscariot
12-09-2007, 18:10
And now they are starting to crumble.
66-3 after 10 overs. If Taylor can stick around for at least another 5 overs, Zimbabwe will have a real chance.
Rain stops play with 8 overs left, 65 runs to get with 6 wickets in hand. Apparantly the Aussies would win on the DL method by just SIX runs.
Aw man, Zimbabwe were faltering but they still had a chance, so it'll be a pity if rain washes this out now. This would've been an ideal opportunity to dump the Aussies out in the first round, but now, knowing them, they'll carry on and win the whole thing if they come through this unscathed.
If Zimbabwe had not lost that last wicket they might have been ahead on the D/L method. If play does resume it will be a reduced total that they have to chase which might suit them.
What a game this is. Taylor still there on 48.
Zimbabwe need 29 from 26 balls.
23 from 18 balls...
18 from 12 balls...
12 from 6 balls...
FOUR! 8 from 5 balls...
I can see this going down to the final ball.
Zimbabwe win by 5 wickets with 1 ball to spare! :lol:
Brilliant stuff, and a deserved victory IMO.
Taylor - what a hero and what a win for Zimbabwe. Truly great stuff :clap:
snowball
13-09-2007, 05:50
the aussies lose. :clap: There is a god after all. :notworthy
Ponting said afterwards that perhaps they didn't take the competition and Zimbabwe series enough. England could knock them out if we beat them tomorrow.
The thing I'm more concerned about now is even if England beat Zimbabwe today but the Aussies step it up tomorrow and beat us surely we could go out?
It could be a bad thing that Australia have lost surely???
cheeseypuffs
13-09-2007, 08:20
Yes there is a chance we could go out if we lose, so there is a double incentive for us to win - make sure we go through and knock out the favourites. I'm sure everyone outside of the Australia camp will be cheering for us in that game as well so we can't let them down ;) Also, our team probably has the most Twenty20 experience of any side so that should give us an edge too.
Windies in a spot of bother it seems here against Bangladesh - they need to break this partnership as it seems to be scoring freely. 6 wides already in 7 overs for the Windies as well :lol:
They only need 6.2 p/o for the last 9 overs. Bangladesh should win this comfortably from here.
Greemie666
13-09-2007, 11:37
Bangladesh giving Windies a right good spanking here :lol:
England today:
Maddy, Prior, Wright, Pietersen, Collingwood, Flintoff, Shah, Mascarenhas, Schofield, Broad, Anderson
Please can someone tell me why Prior is down to open again?
Greemie666
13-09-2007, 11:53
Please can someone tell me why Prior is down to open again?
Suposedly 'cause he can score fast straight off.
Yeah, his innings are really fast - about 2 overs worth :oh-hum:
A real beating for the Windies today by Bangladesh as well
Bangladesh spank the West Indies by 6 wickets to send them home on the plane :D
Greemie666
13-09-2007, 11:59
Bangladesh spank the West Indies by 6 wickets to send them home on the plane :D
No fluke win, bowled, batted and fielded extremely well. Windies were very poor in the field, half of them looked like they didn't care that much.
just noticed that this is live on sky 815
TigaSefi
13-09-2007, 12:03
Hmm damp pitch so why bat first when we can bat better on a drier pitch later on ?
TigaSefi
13-09-2007, 12:16
"Geoff Boycott on TMS is already lamenting their decision to bat first."
Quite right, is Collingwood being dense on purpose? It's far far better to bat second.
3 down now with Prior gone :oh-hum:
Looks like we didn't learn from the Aussies yesterday!
I work in Leicester for a U.S company and therefore when trying to listen to TMS on the PC it will not let me as it think's I am a foreigner :(
Anyone know any way around this at all? The various series we have had this summer have not been a problem but it seems this is UK only for T20. :cry:
You'd have to use some form of Proxy Server to get round it
50 for KP and a good recovery from him and Captain Colly :thumbs:
Awesome from KP - 22 off an over from him :clap:
How many balls did Gayle score his hundred off? :nuts:
TigaSefi
13-09-2007, 12:50
That 22 off an over is almost Stick Cricket style!
All over for KP - Boycott is extremely smug on TMS as he bemoaning KP's reverse sweeps seconds before and then KP gets out to it. Still on for 200+ easily here
EDIT: Colly run out now as well
All over for KP - Boycott is extremely smug on TMS as he bemoaning KP's reverse sweeps seconds before and then KP gets out to it.Cos Boycott would have done so well at 20/20 :nuts:
TigaSefi
13-09-2007, 12:55
Grr we need another 50 runs
poissony
13-09-2007, 12:59
Not so sure we need it but it would be nice.
What a dodgy innings that sounded from Flintoff :lol:
Shah and Mascarenhas out now - could get bowled out here :eek:
poissony
13-09-2007, 13:06
What a dodgy innings that sounded from Flintoff :lol:
Yup, typical Flintoff post-Ashes 2005.
This is an impressive fall of wickets.
Broad run out with 2 balls still left - I think we're about 20-30 short of what we should have posted. But I think we've posted a total that Zimbabwe will have a great deal of trouble chasing down
Very poor end to the innings there, we should have had 200 on the board in our sleep. Brilliant knock from KP, though to get out playing left-handed seems pretty lame to me. I guess he'd reply by saying he hit a six and 3 fours that way.
As for Freddie, he wasn't the poorest of the batsmen by a long way. Luke Wright shouldn't be playing that shot first ball after a wicket went down. It was poor.
TigaSefi
13-09-2007, 13:46
Jimmy A is astrocious!!
Yup. Really a toothless start from Broad and Anderson here.
'Bout bloody time. Only took 8 overs.
EDIT - And another, Dimitri gets his 2nd. He, Freddy and Schofield have bowled really well.
EDIT - Cya later Taylor, 85-3 with 8 left. Should win this from here now Taylor is gone.
Starting to drag them back now - I think we'll start seeing a flurry of wickets shortly
EDIT: Good stuff from Dimi to get rid of Taylor - he's a perfect sort of bowler for this sort of track
EDIT 2: Another wicket down with Schofield getting the breakthrough - both him and Dimi sound like they have been excellent. I expect Freddy to take out another couple when he gets back on.
EDIT 3: Going down like pins in 10 Pin Bowling now :lol:
Whew! Pietersen and now Collingwood have dropped absolute sitters today :nuts:
Need another wicket here for the run-rate, it's starting to look a bit ugly again.
:lol: Prior FIELDS at deep mid-wicket! I kid you not :nuts:
Poor from Anderson - 31 off his 3 overs. Need him to find some better form for tomorrow as the Aussies will try to counter their defeat with some hard hitting.
Another drop as well - catching has been dire so far!
Straight and full bowling tomorrow please Jimmy.
A win is a win. But what on earth happened to the West Indies. What a great tournament this has been so far for upsets.
Not a remote chance of play here. Looks like they'll give both teams a point, which the Scots won't be too unhappy about :D
I hope the rain doesn't mess with the India/Pakistan showdown tomorrow evening as the match should be a classic.
Sri Lanka have set the precedent for the rest of the tournament. 260-6 from their 20 overs (albeit against the poor Kenyan bowlers). Mubarak got 46 off 13 balls. :eek:
Some assault that - I think they may just have this game won :D
Sri Lanka win by 172 runs. :eek:
England news: Anderson out, Kirtley in. Collingwood wins the toss and chooses to bat first. Brave decision considering the Aussie's potential in a run chase.
Batting first is easily the choice to make for me - if we get 150+, then we're virtually through unless Hayden and Co knock it off in 10 overs. Now if we had gone in 2nd, we'd have risked a very nervous chase had the Aussies posted a big total knowing we had to get within a certain target just to survive.
Slow start form England. Only 12 from the first two overs.
Currently 29-1 at under 6 an over :|
At this rate the Australians are only going to need 10 overs to beat us. 37-2 after 7 overs. Rubbish.
Wright gone now - not an auspicious start. A KP failure and its a sticky situation for sure!
48-3 with Maddy out now - KP/Colly recovery operation needed :eek:
i'll be happy with 170.
The rate we're going we'll be lucky to get 100. 48-3.
Oh dear, not looking good :|
Mitchell Johnson seems to be bowling superbly here - 14 off his 3 overs
If we don't pick it up and end up losing we could be going home as our net run rate will take a massive hit.
And here comes the batting giant that is Flintoff. Why isn't Shah ahead of him?
Five Live have left the cricket to warble on about F1. Shut up and get back to the cricket FFS.:mad:
poissony
14-09-2007, 12:46
Collingwood gone now, shame he was looking good. Time for Freddie to step up with the bat.
Colly out now ball after smashing Lee for 6 :(
Only 3 runs off the 14th over. This isn't Test cricket FFS. We are going to have to bowl like demons.
Just needed another 1-2 more overs of Flintoff there :(
Jonathan Agnew had a touch of me saying how well Flintoff was batting about 1-2 balls before :(
Really looking dire now at 130/7 - Aussies will have a real go at trying to knock us out now as they'll send Hayden and Gilchirst to really try and attack Kirtley and Broad
We need a Mascarenhas 30 of the last over now.
Scratch that he's been run out. Unlucky. We are ******.
I think I'd be tempted to open the bowling with Flintoff now to try and restrict them at the start of their innings
not looking good at all is it.
I never thought I would say this but we really missed Bell today. He is in form and quite simply a better batsman than any of Maddy, Prior and Wright.
Dreadful stuff today quite frankly.
Any idea how many overs the Aussies need to win inside of to knock us out?
EDIT: Apparently 9.3 overs is the golden mark to avoid. Definitely opening the bowling now with Flintoff. Maybe even bowl his 4 overs up front just to ensure we aren't flying home tonight!
Below par score really. We'll still have to bowl pretty poorly to get knocked out though - i.e. how we started bowling yesterday. Essentially we need to top 4 Aussie batsmen out cheaply :(
Apparently 9.3 overs is the golden mark to avoid.
Easily done for them but let's hope they don't bother going for it as they can win this at a canter.
TigaSefi
14-09-2007, 13:40
Same old crappy England. Always get a mental block against the Aussies.
Easily done for them but let's hope they don't bother going for it as they can win this at a canter.Yeah 14 1/3 runs an over is easy :cuckoo:
*I can see Flintoff getting 4 for 15 off his 4 overs and running off with MOM :p
Easily done for them but let's hope they don't bother going for it as they can win this at a canter.
14 an over is no easy task - if they try for that on this wicket, then they can be my guests :thumbs:
Freddy opening the bowling :thumbs:
basegreen
14-09-2007, 13:46
Like always in cricket. Judge after 1 innings each :)
Sorry misread it as if they needed a run rate of 9.3 an over. :doh::lol:
Sorry misread it as if they needed a run rate of 9.3 an over. :doh::lol::lol:
Obviously would be different if Australia were already through, but they need to win this, so they would be silly to go for it in under 10 overs. If we don't pick up any wickets in the first 6, they may give it a bash though :shrug:
TigaSefi
14-09-2007, 13:56
Aussies are polishing us off!! Broad needs to stop the shorts!!
Does it make any difference who tops the group? :shrug:
Does it make any difference who tops the group? :shrug:
No.
The Super 8s are organised rather like the World Cup - in that England will go through as team B2 (and Australia as B1), whichever order they finish in the group. Fixtures are already determined. However, each team will only play three games in the Super 8 phase.
So if England qualify, they will play A1 (South Africa), C1 (New Zealand) and D2 (India if they qualify - Scotland if they don't). If Australia qualify, they will play A2 (Bangladesh), D1 (Pakistan if they qualify - Scotland if they don't), and C2 (Sri Lanka).
So as soon as it reaches 10 overs we may as well have 9 slips for a laugh ;)
LouBarlow
14-09-2007, 14:05
We are on the plane home already methinks
We are on the plane home already methinksYeah the Aussie will get 75 from 3.3 overs ;)
LouBarlow
14-09-2007, 14:11
I can see it with a few free-shots tbh :lol:
TigaSefi
14-09-2007, 14:12
I don't think he is joking. In fact I'll put a bet on it!
55 off 2 balls needed to knock us out :D
EDIT: Yay, through to the next round in the most miserable of ways :nuts: ;)
Going to need a massively improved effort on Sunday against South Africa. Any idea where that game will be played at?
TigaSefi
14-09-2007, 14:27
Hmmm no mention of us going through on bbc txt updates and Aussies are intent on beating us.
They are definitely through
Hmmm no mention of us going through on bbc txt updates and Aussies are intent on beating us.
Well they would be wouldn't they? But England are definitely through. Pity though, this was a great opportunity to get one over the Aussies. And Pietersen's (alleged) comments about "humiliating" them are starting to look a bit silly now.
TigaSefi
14-09-2007, 14:39
Hmmm no mention of us going through on bbc txt updates and Aussies are intent on beating us.
In fact...
"Let's be honest, it's a good thing for the tournament that Australia have gone through. They've really taken the game by the scruff of the neck"
Jonathan Agnew on TMS
You do realise it is the top 2 in each group through don't you? Our R/R is ahead of Zimbabwe now so we're through :D
TigaSefi
14-09-2007, 14:44
Ah I see....
I think it was partly why we batted first - defensive measure to ensure we made it through to the next round
And it makes no difference who finishes 1st and 2nd, cos we go into a set group anyway :shrug:
Pathetic display by England. They need a rocket up their arses before the next game. Terrible batting and even worse bowling.
The specialist experiment ain't working (yet). Maddy was poor, Wright was worse and Kirtly and Schofield got utterly spanked. From the regulars Broad was not good enough. Rubbish.
Pathetic display by England. They need a rocket up their arses before the next game. Terrible batting and even worse bowling.
The specialist experiment ain't working (yet). Maddy was poor, Wright was worse and Kirtly and Schofield got utterly spanked. From the regulars Broad was not good enough. Rubbish.Schofield actually did ok for 2 overs. It was all over by then anyway. Kirtly did nothing, not sure why they didn;t let him bowl more overs, as we were through anyway. Maddy and Wright need to sort it out really, Solanki should play the next game :shrug:
Few observations -
Pietersen's "humiliation" comment looks pretty damn stupid now. 8 wickets with a 1/4 of the innings to spare = total and utter humiliation and then some as far as I'm concerned. You could tell at the toss Ponting wasn't in any mood to mess about today. Rile the Aussies up at your peril.
Luke Wright cannot keep batting as high up if he's going to keep knicking to the keeper. He's done that both innings of this tournament so far and it simply isn't good enough. Solanki should be bought in to replace him now IMO. The top order, minus Pietersen looks pretty average to me.
Good to see Freddie have some fun. He batted well, in fact pretty much the only batsman who did so. It's a problem we still have, ie. we really do rely on 1 or 2 batsmen to make the scores, if they don't, more often than not, we're in serious trouble.
The bowling is a huge concern. We look pretty damn lame in that department IMO, apart from Freddie. If we don't get that sorted, we've got no chance.
Kirtly did nothing, not sure why they didn;t let him bowl more overs, as we were through anyway.
17 off your first over doesn't really give your captain much reason to bowl you more. Still thank God we have Anderson as back up. Oh hang on...... :oh-hum:
17 off your first over doesn't really give your captain much reason to bowl you more. Still thank God we have Anderson as back up. Oh hang on...... :oh-hum:Anyone can bowl 1 bad over. Once we were through he should have bowled a couple more. Tbh I'd bring Anderson back anyway :shrug:
We are very lucky to get through and need to improve in all areas if we are going to progress through the super eights.
India in a bit of bother losing 2 early wickets to Asif.
The bowling is a huge concern. We look pretty damn lame in that department IMO, apart from Freddie. If we don't get that sorted, we've got no chance.
Its only the opening bowling which is a concern to me - we need to pin teams back in those first 3-4 overs like the Aussies did to us today and take early wickets. Its then when the likes of Schofield and Dimi can really put pressure on. They don't have a chance if the opening pair are scoring 10 an over :|
India in a bit of bother losing 2 early wickets to Asif.
What a quality bowler he is - one of the top 3 bowlers in World Cricket for me
That return catch by Asif was something special as that ball was travelling, he had only 0.66 of a second to react and catch it. India really are struggling at the moment.
Its then when the likes of Schofield and Dimi can really put pressure on.
Easy answer to that, let them both open the bowling :nuts:
Can't do any worse :D
I'd go with Anderson and Kirtley for Sunday - Broad still concerns me a little at times with slightly erratic bowling so I'd go with those 2 to open the bowling.
Asif strikes again - Scotland might be heading for the next round here!
Asif is a pimp, you see that last ball? Would have taken the wicket of any batsmen in the world. Suddenly Scotland may get a bit excited :nuts:
Big blow losing Uthappa there - I think the breaks haven't helped at all
Amazing to think that Scotland could sneek through here.
Did you guys see this story from yesterday:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/india/6992520.stm
Personally I think this is a good idea as you will get county players who do not play at the international level testing their skills at a higher level. And the prize money for the winning team isn't to bad either. Hopefully they can get the TV rights in place although as this is India it could be a last minute deal.
Parthan with two monumental sixes...
and then bowled next ball :nuts: 111-6 with 4 left.
Twenty20 = :nuts:
Dhoni starting to cause some mayhem here... and it starts raining :oh-hum:
Dhoni is the key here, if he bats to the end then they could end up with a decent score. Afridi is starting to look good with the ball.
India finish on 141-9. Pretty good recovery. At 36-4 they were in all kinds of trouble.
So if Pakistan get these runs in 14.5 overs then India are out and Scotland go through. I bet they are aware of that as well.
So if Pakistan get these runs in 14.5 overs then India are out and Scotland go through. I bet they are aware of that as well.
The way Pakistan are swinging the bat, it looks like they're going for it. Mnd you, if the boring Salman Butt sticks around, no chance.
EDIT - And he goes for 17. Even the Pakistan fans don't seem to mind too much :D
But hang on... now it's 47-4! :nuts:
We certainly have a match on our hands here but where is Afridi, he doesn't always come off but even if he gets a quick 20 or 30 he could turn the match Pakistan's way.
Afridi dropped @ 94-5. Hell of a game this is.
EDIT - And now gone on 109-6. Surely it's India's match now. Amazing turnaround. Pakistan's batting line-up looks pretty average to me.
29 to win off 11 balls, and that's after a 4, 6, 4 :D
Afridi now out but still Pakistan are not out of it. This could go down right to the wire.
12 required off the last over :nuts:
EDIT - 7 runs from 4 balls :nuts:
EDIT - 1 run from 2 balls :nuts:
EDIT - 1 run from 1 ball :nuts: :nuts: :nuts:
EDIT - UNBELIEVABLE! Every single Indian fielder inside the circle... Run-out on the last ball of the innings! It's a tie!
Pakistan needed 42 from 18 balls at one point. Utterly unbelievable. The Indian fans cannot believe what they've seen.
I want to see a bowl out :nuts:
Edit - What a finish :clap:
Now lets see this bowl out.
basegreen
14-09-2007, 19:42
What an ending, unlucky for Pak, but we'll see in the bowl out.
Great stuff though wasn't it :clap:
I think Pakistan got their tacticks wrong in the bowl out and should have bowled their slower bowlers first like India did.
As for the match they should have got that single they needed as they had two balls to do it.
basegreen
14-09-2007, 19:54
Have done bowl-outs before. The trick is to bowl your normal pace, and put the slowies on first. The balls the Pakistani bowlers put down were nice line and length, just not right! Never use your swing bowlers though ;)
Tell you what - Gough would be my #1 bowl out bowler... he has incredible accuracy with the yorker, the full toss is far preferable as well.
Can someone explain this "bowl-out"? What exactly does that mean? They bowl simply at stumps, first one to miss loses or?
EDIT - Ahhh I see it on the BBC's website.
Think of a penalty shoot out at football but replace a penalty with a bowler bowling at the stumps and you have it. Five different bowlers have five balls to bowl. India hit the stumps three times out of three and Pakistan could not hit them at all in their three attempts so India won.
basegreen
14-09-2007, 20:14
It's also quite easy to bowl off no run up, with straight arm, slowly, aiming half way up. We practice this at training a lot.
Some of those attempts from Pakistan were abysmal :lol:
Problems early doors for New Zealand. The run-rate is poor, and they've lost 2 wickets. 25-2 after 5.
Sri Lanka need 165 to win. They'll fancy this, but you never know with 20/20.
After their batting the other day you would say that 165 is perfectly getable but as you say you just never know in 20/20.
This Bangladesh innings is something as they are trying to smash almost every ball out of the ground, indeed in the first five overs it was eithe a four or a six or a wicket, there were hardly any singles :nuts:
The first 38 runs were all boundaries or sixes :nuts:
Ended up on 144 which should be an easy target. Entertaining stuff though.
Their whole innings for me was summed up by Mortaza who went something like - miss, miss, miss, hit for 6, hit for 6, hit and caught :nuts:
What an innings by New Zealand today, at the half way stage they were five wickets down and it looked like they would struggle to get to 150 but thanks to Oram and McMillian would both found the boundary at ease they got up to 190 as they hit 88 from the last 5 overs. Some of the sixes went miles.
Some hitting that was - but a good start by India in their response
EDIT: Sehwag looks absolutely locked in here along with Gambhir!
EDIT 2: The carnage finally over as Sehwag is out - 40 off 17!
Sehwag was going for the quickest 50 in the tournament the way he was playing but he has given India a great start although like in the New Zealand middle part of the innings the fielding team are starting to pull it back a bit. I fancy another close finish in this match.
India heading for trouble here - that Dhoni run out was very badly timed for them before and they still need 45 off 22 with 6 down now
India in huge trouble now. 146-6 with 22 balls left. 45 runs needed.
Now Karthick gone and New Zealand win the match.
India are throwing this away after their good start but credit to New Zealand for the way they have come back into the match after Sehwag's onslaught.
They needed Yuvraj and Dhoni to stick together for a bit longer - just too much damage done in those middle/latter overs to chase this down now
Anyone else have nightmares about those South African batsmen last night?
If we don't bowl well, things might get rather ugly.
Hopefully we can put them into bat today - I think they are much better chasing than setting a target.
Comfortable win for NZ in the end despite a couple of late boundaries from Sreesanth
The only chance we have is if we put them in first but I think Collingwood likes to bat first but with this being a night game it will no matter either way on this score.
Just 10 runs between these to in the end but after the start they had India should have really won this.
Ugh. 65-2 after 11 overs. The game is practically over already unless Ashraful and co. can cause some mayhem. Yesterday was tee-off time, today has been goto sleep in the crowd time. Sort it Bangladesh!
Brett Lee takes the first hat-trick in Int 20/20 history.
How the hell did this poor Bangladesh side beat the West Indies?
Typical Bangladesh - they can only produce 1 good performance in 5 or something.
Aussies will knock this off inside 13 overs at a canter
I think Bangladesh released that they left themselves short of wickets against South Africa yesterday so tried to play with more caution today which is all well and good if you don't keep loosing regular wickets.
Nice hat-trick for Brett Lee.
Snape and Anderson in for Kirtley and Maddy
We've just put SA in to bat. At Smith I wouldn't be bowling many pitched up balls, driving is Smith's game. Let him drive, and he'll cut your throat! No Herschelle Gibbs today :D
Brilliant so far with 3 down already including Smith and DeVilliers :clap:
I had total faith in Broad as well :suspect:
Very good start this by England, but I can't but help think that South Africa are going to explode at any minute.
These dropped catches will not help.
Just a killer those 2 drops against Boucher - he is a man who can decimate an attack :(
Anderson drops and absolute sitter, then Wright drops one the likes of Ponting would take easy. Then a six to finish the over. ****'* sake.
:D
Boucher and Pollock go in quick succession. Bit lucky to get things back to how they should be. Great bowling this.
And now Kemp can sod off :D 94-6
Top stuff lads! :clap:
130 is looking like the total now for SA
Collingwood and Shah mess up yet another skied catch and next 3 balls goes for 6.
England's catching in the deep has been shocking.
FFS - miss a stupidly easy catch and you get punished with 3 sixes
FFS
130 john? Forget that mate, try 150 minimum :mad: :mad:
ralph wiggum
16-09-2007, 17:13
Collingwood and Shah mess up yet another skied catch and next 3 balls goes for 6.
England's catching in the deep has been shocking.
Even I could have caught that! :oh-hum:
saltysam
16-09-2007, 17:13
Top stuff lads! :clap:
130 is looking like the total now for SA jinx :razz:
Get rid of damn Morkel and his artillery gun of a bat and we might restrict them to high 140s :oh-hum:
Good bowling from Broad though to bag the 7th wicket
That takes the biscuit that one - drop another deep catch and give away a boundary as a result :oh-hum:
Yay - a catch off the final ball. 154-8 and that has to be a total we can attempt to chase down if we want to win this Tourney. Should have been so much better though!
155 to chase. Should have been no more than 140. Great bowling from pretty much everyone, awful awful catching in the deep.
I just hope that catching or lack of it in the Collingwood/Shah incident doesn't prove costly. We had the chances to keep them down to around 140 but blew it. I thought the bowling was pretty good overall it is just a shame our out cricket was so poor.
SA bowling copped some serious punishment from WI and even Bangladesh so I don't think this'll be too much of a problem :suspect:
Luke Wright goes for a duck again. Sorry, but that's him dropped from the lineup for me. He's had 3 chances and done nothing.
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