View Full Version : Quadrophenia, is it any good?
bazkeane82
17-01-2002, 00:29
does anyone recomend this film and is it better to get the r1 or r2 version
feverpitch96
17-01-2002, 00:34
Good film, both R1 and R2 versions are apparently pretty poor. But the R1 is supposed to be a dramatic improvement over the older R2.
There is a pretty good R1 available with commentary, interviews etc. Avoid the R2 and go for the R1 instead.
Arch Stanton
17-01-2002, 09:41
Quadrophenia is a classic. Heck, it even makes Sting look cool.
One day some one will do it justice on DVD.
One day....
jroadley
17-01-2002, 12:58
Originally posted by Arch Stanton
Quadrophenia is a classic. Heck, it even makes Sting look cool.
One day some one will do it justice on DVD.
One day....
I got this (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000055XMF//ref=sr_1_10_1/102-2705103-6596169) version which has the following extras:
• Region 1 encoding (US and Canada only)
• Color, Widescreen, Dolby
• Commentary by director Franc Roddam
• Theatrical trailer(s)
• Interview with Sting
• Photo gallery including publicity photos, memorabilia, and continuity Polaroids from Franc Roddam's scripts
• Who discography
• Film trivia subtitle track
• Animated location map with footage from the scenes today
• Quiz: Are you a "Mod" or a "Rocker?"
• Film restoration feature
• Vespa trailer featuring classic commercials
• British mod film compendium
• Easter eggs include "Portrait of a Mod," reviews of the film, Riot button, and more
• Remastered from the original 35mm negative and Dolby A soundtrack
• Widescreen letterbox format
But some scenes are missing from my UK VHS version :(
Originally posted by jroadley
But some scenes are missing from my UK VHS version :(
I love this film and have often though about replacing my vhs version but I'd heard the region 2 copy was not very good. Now I'm told the region 1 version is cut (or did you mean the vhs version is cut) I'm not so sure.
So whats missing jroadley ?
Originally posted by Grumpy
I love this film and have often though about replacing my vhs version but I'd heard the region 2 copy was not very good. Now I'm told the region 1 version is cut (or did you mean the vhs version is cut) I'm not so sure.
So whats missing jroadley ?
Yes please tell
Ive got a crappy R2 version in a super jewel case.
ive seen a newer version in a Amaray type case is it any different to the jewel case I have
jroadley
18-01-2002, 16:28
Originally posted by Grumpy
So whats missing jroadley ?
OK, not seen the VHS for ages. Will take a look tonight if I can and post back. These aren't nail crunching scenes.
Someone else must know as well! :D
The scenes that have been cut from the R2 are, a scene where Phil Daniels gets his paypacket pops out to the tailers to pay a deposit on his suit,a scene just before everybody goes the house party was cut in the toilets where the lads are talking and a guy is sitting in the toilets high on drugs and a couple of other talkie scenes,nothing substansial the R 1 is a bit dotty here and ther but it adds a bit more realism aging to the movie,the R 2 is crap but longer but a waste of money,R1 is much better value for money.
jroadley
19-01-2002, 16:57
Originally posted by jackall
The scenes that have been cut from the R2 are, a scene where Phil Daniels gets his paypacket pops out to the tailers to pay a deposit on his suit,a scene just before everybody goes the house party was cut in the toilets where the lads are talking and a guy is sitting in the toilets high on drugs and a couple of other talkie scenes,nothing substansial the R 1 is a bit dotty here and ther but it adds a bit more realism aging to the movie,the R 2 is crap but longer but a waste of money,R1 is much better value for money.
Thank you, took me ages to remember these scenes :bow:
Thanks jroadley, looks like the region 1 version is the one to go for which I find a bit strange considering it's a British film.
Mojo Risin
22-07-2004, 21:55
The scenes that have been cut from the R2 are, a scene where Phil Daniels gets his paypacket pops out to the tailers to pay a deposit on his suit,a scene just before everybody goes the house party was cut in the toilets where the lads are talking and a guy is sitting in the toilets high on drugs and a couple of other talkie scenes,nothing substansial the R 1 is a bit dotty here and ther but it adds a bit more realism aging to the movie,the R 2 is crap but longer but a waste of money,R1 is much better value for money.
those scenes are classics
well funny banter. especially the rentatent comment at the tailers
and in the toilets theres a magic cry of 'SPIDER!'
hope this film gets the release it deserves eventually
here..... theres a party down the kitchener road... only takes 20/30 minutes on a scooter.... coming?
cheapest - £10.69 dvdsoon or slighty more on amazon.com
all those scenes were in the vhs version... although the picture was terrible..
The Quadrophenia album is reportedly getting a full makeover at the moment, with Townshend supervising a 5.1 mix for a 2xCD (hybrid SACD) release release along the lines of Tommy, Who's Next, Live at Leeds etc.
Earlier this year on the Who site it reported that this new mix could form the basis of future DVD releases, so............
A new SE of Quadrophenia on the cards for next year or beyond?
Steve
AndyWilson
23-07-2004, 11:06
...the R 1 is a bit dotty here and ther but it adds a bit more realism aging to the movie,...
It can't be that old - I went to the premier on my lambretta!
(shuffles off to touch up the Grecian 2000)
LOL !!!
I seem to recall seeing "Quadrophenia" in a double bill with "Scum" at the ABC in Sheffield, but that must have been a re-release.
Anyway, it's a very good film with a dynamite cast.
haven't seen this for years - Leslie Ash mmmmmmmm
Best thing Franc Roddam's ever done (up until Masterchef anyway)
LordoftheDance
23-07-2004, 14:25
Well I'll disagree and say I thought it was rubbish. Obviously I'm in a minority though!
KeyserSoze
23-07-2004, 14:47
The Quadrophenia album is reportedly getting a full makeover at the moment, with Townshend supervising a 5.1 mix for a 2xCD (hybrid SACD) release release along the lines of Tommy, Who's Next, Live at Leeds etc.
Earlier this year on the Who site it reported that this new mix could form the basis of future DVD releases, so............
A new SE of Quadrophenia on the cards for next year or beyond?
Steve
Wooo
Sea and Sand - I love that song :bow:
classic film captures the era.. like 24 hour party people did for that era..
Wooo
Sea and Sand - I love that song :bow:
Have now got "Sea & Sand" playing through my head! A very positive thing indeed for a Friday afternoon, many thanks. :thumbs:
Looks like the family will be treated to some Who tonight!
Steve
LordoftheDance
23-07-2004, 16:11
To back up my naysaying, I can see how the movie captures the mood and era really well, and the choice of music for the film is good, but Sting is rubbish and the story is so not gripping.... it just bored me to tears.
KeyserSoze
26-07-2004, 12:52
Saw this on brighton beach on saturday night on one of those Stellar Artois sponsored things. Big beach, a few thousand people loaded with alcohol and a big screen with booming sound .... it was fantastic atmosphere to say the least. And everyone cheered when Brighton Pier was in the background of the movie.
"we are mods, we are mods"
Mojo Risin
26-07-2004, 13:15
sounds ACE!
Its got to have a proper DVD release with extras and stuff soon surely.
someone start a petition and We'll send it to Townsend and co
Is the rumour true the negative was found in a washing machine? :gag: and thats why the movie looks so bad or is this rumour just codswollop.
Anyway its just a superb film full of teenage angst great music and fantastic performances.Cannot understand anyone moaning about Sting he looks great and has the best line in the movie ,to the judge superb moment.
Needs a re-master and some better features some deleted stuff would be nice as well.
KeyserSoze
26-07-2004, 18:24
so does the R1 look toilet as well then ?
im not gonna buy it though, i want the uncut version.
Well...its very scratchy lookin but is 5.1 and widescreen has comparisons with unrestored version, some text extras, sting interview,quizzes and best of all a commentry by franc roddam in which he does not mention any of the removed scenes?if its cheap buy it.
Mojo Risin
19-11-2004, 16:54
anyone heard if theres any chance of a better DVD release of Quadrophenia?
The equivalent of the Tommy Package would make a lot of WHO fans chuffed surely???
KeyserSoze
15-07-2006, 15:58
New SE
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=62170
I wondered when this was going to hit R2 land. Has different extras comparing to the R1 version. But mentions theres an audio commentary - the same one? Probably means its the same version with missing scenes.
douglasb
08-08-2006, 11:53
Out now (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump2.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums?DURL=http://www.play.com/DVD/DVD/4-/1009426/Quadrophenia_Special_Edition/Product.html)
Anyone picked it up yet?
D.
LOL !!!
I seem to recall seeing "Quadrophenia" in a double bill with "Scum" at the ABC in Sheffield, but that must have been a re-release.
Anyway, it's a very good film with a dynamite cast.
What was it, Ray Winstone night?
Kirs-tea
08-08-2006, 14:39
A Very good film. Featuring good old Phil Daniels!
irascian
08-08-2006, 18:12
Anyone picked it up yet?
D.
Yes. What did you want to know?
The picture is a zillion times better than the DVD released back in 1999 (which was like a bad VHS copy). The extra's are a one hour documentary in anamorphic widescreen (unusual for an extra) with most of the cast and the director reminiscing, plus a 12 minute video of the director reminiscing about the locations and some then/now shots of the key places.
The commentary is the director and lead actor Phil Daniels with some spliced-in comments from Leslie Ash.
The film is better than I remember it. I had been a punk and found the violence, bad language and nihilistic attitude just reinforced bad stereotypes, and although Sting had been cast to reel the punk crowd in he had a very minor role with no real acting required (I suspect I'd have liked it a lot more if the original choice for the Phil Daniels character - Johnny Rotten - had not been turned down by the insurance companies).
Nearly 30 years later I like it a lot more. The Brighton scenes are amazing and the film was ahead of its time in many ways (male nudity!) and the basic story is timeless and applies to all generations I think. Fun to see so many stalwarts (or stale warts) of British TV cropping up, most of them on East Enders! Well worth a viewing, just avoid the originally released DVD which is terrible.
KeyserSoze
08-08-2006, 19:02
The cut scenes the cut scenes !!
Have they been restored?
irascian
08-08-2006, 20:01
The cut scenes the cut scenes !!
Have they been restored?
What cut scenes? There's no mention of them on packaging or commentary.
KeyserSoze
08-08-2006, 20:32
Damn, no idea where to find the info now. Can someone help out?
But anyway, the R1 SE DVD had missing scenes. Just wondering if they have been put back in. I think the original R2 DVD was the complete theatrical cut but obviously the transfer is pretty atrocious.
Mark Everclear
10-08-2006, 00:05
I just got the new SE today and am watching it now.. the "poofs wear lacquer" scene was just on, I seem to remember hearing that was cut on the R1. If that's of any help :) (like you, I can't seem to find anything on google right now detailing the cuts.)
It certainly seems to be the same version as my old VHS copy, as far as I can remember.. not seen the film for a few years, mind you!
No idea how it compares to the original release, but picture quality on this one is great. Box lists running time as 1 hour 55 mins.
Damn, no idea where to find the info now. Can someone help out?
But anyway, the R1 SE DVD had missing scenes. Just wondering if they have been put back in. I think the original R2 DVD was the complete theatrical cut but obviously the transfer is pretty atrocious.
Got The Region 2 release today, ist thing I noticed was a scene that was missing from my R1 dvd is back in the R2, its just before they go off to the private party and Jimmy puts The My Generation single on, theres a bathroom scene where all the lads are chatting and one of them is stoned on the floor next to the door
What other stuff should be there ? Im sure there is also some extra dialogue scenes at Jimmys workplace as well inthe R2
KeyserSoze
12-08-2006, 11:49
Looking good, thanks for comfirming those scenes. We need to find a complete list of missing scenes.
Also out of interest, was the original R2 DVD Pan & Scan or open matte ?
Looking good, thanks for comfirming those scenes. We need to find a complete list of missing scenes.
Also out of interest, was the original R2 DVD Pan & Scan or open matte ?
Take a look here The R1 was edited by 7 minutes and this comparison against the old Pan and scan release suggests the Uk R2 complete
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=1364
just got the new R2 today comparing it to the first R2 theyve obviously improved the picture quality wise but have just cropped it to widescreen we are now missing the top and/or bottom of the picture.
just got the new R2 today comparing it to the first R2 theyve obviously improved the picture quality wise but have just cropped it to widescreen we are now missing the top and/or bottom of the picture.
More likely the previous release was open matte, and the new version is OAR.
watched the hour documentary on disk 2 - quite indepth; features - franc roddam, phil daniels, mark wingett, toyah willcox and philip davies.
Toyah has obviously done a u-turn on this film - in the past saying that she has never seen it - very annoyed at all of the scenes that she was cut out of.
AKPiggott
31-03-2008, 11:43
This is my dad's favourite film and I've seen bits and pieces of it over the years but finally sat down and watched the whole thing last night. I don't really know a helluva lot about the mod scene but that didn't stop my enjoyment of it. Enjoyed the soundtrack too as I grew up hearing most of it from my parents and grandparents (it was old even back then). Sting looked like he'd been lifted straight out of Schindler's List as Ralph Fiennes second-in-command or something, I found him more amusing than cool. Phil Daniels was very good in such a young performance, how the hell did he end up in EastEnders?
Regarding the ending...
I actually thought Jimmy had gone off the cliff with the scooter and you didn't actually see him because of practical filming limitations of the time etc. When I walked away and thought about what the ending meant, I realised what happened. Felt especially silly when I remembered the opening scene of Jimmy walking away from Beachy Head looking very not-dead.
Just got round to watching this on Sky HD , superb PQ and it includes all the "CUT" scenes , well worth watching , the film has never looked so good :)
Ms_Hitler
14-01-2009, 17:08
In case anyone is interested...
http://www.bfi.org.uk/whatson/node/7282?utm_source=20090116imax&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20090116imax
wobbly Jelly
15-01-2009, 10:31
wasn't the stealing 'drugs' from the chemists where Leslie Ash worked(??) removed as well - they appear in the cafe with lots of drugs, not showing that lots of them were prescription drugs (slimming drugs) at the time
AKPiggott
15-01-2009, 11:03
Just got round to watching this on Sky HD , superb PQ and it includes all the "CUT" scenes , well worth watching , the film has never looked so good :)
Nice. Hopefully not long until a blu-ray release then. :)
RangersFC
15-01-2009, 11:21
I picked up my ticket for this yesterday .... looking forward to it as I've never seen it on the big screen .....
Silent Voice
15-01-2009, 14:46
Not a bad film but then not a good film depicting the era it was supposed to represent.:lol:
Set in 1964 and made in 1979 Rockers are wearing "Motorhead" T-shirts but the band didn't exist yet.:lol:
The currency depicted in the shops/signs are in pounds and pence.:lol:
The double LP "The Who Sell Out" and "A Quick One" special edition was not released until 1974..:lol:
On the road to the coast, the scooters stop and Jimmy shouts "That is Brighton." Actually, what we see in the distance is Eastbourne.:lol:
A cinema advertising Heaven Can Wait (1978) (released in 1978 can be seen in the background when the Mods fight against the Rockers.:lol:
So many hilarious goofs in that film.:lol:
Not a bad film but then not a good film depicting the era it was supposed to represent.:lol:
Set in 1964 and made in 1979 Rockers are wearing "Motorhead" T-shirts but the band didn't exist yet.:lol:
The currency depicted in the shops/signs are in pounds and pence.:lol:
The double LP "The Who Sell Out" and "A Quick One" special edition was not released until 1974..:lol:
On the road to the coast, the scooters stop and Jimmy shouts "That is Brighton." Actually, what we see in the distance is Eastbourne.:lol:
A cinema advertising Heaven Can Wait (1978) (released in 1978 can be seen in the background when the Mods fight against the Rockers.:lol:
So many hilarious goofs in that film.:lol:
:dork:
excellent film - yes its has many goofs regarding time period... but who cares.. great british flick.
AKPiggott
15-01-2009, 16:11
So many hilarious goofs in that film.:lol:
Weren't there then-non-existent cars/scooters in the film as well?
It was only set fourteen years in the past from production, you honestly wouldn't expect it to be that hard to make sure everything was accurate.
AndyWilson
15-01-2009, 18:38
I think it had a budget of about 2/6d
All of the extras, mods and rockers, were just recruited from local bike & scooter clubs and just wore and rode whatever they had. There was no clothing/vehicle budget for the extras!
...oh, did I mention going to the premier in Leicester Square on me Lambretta? :D
Silent Voice
15-01-2009, 19:05
Weren't there then-non-existent cars/scooters in the film as well?
It was only set fourteen years in the past from production, you honestly wouldn't expect it to be that hard to make sure everything was accurate.
It was set in 1964 so for that time yes non-existent cars/scooters,90% of the film shown was 1979 :lol:
They wanted to make it cheap as possible and rely on The Who's music to carry it and hope they got a good return back on it.
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