Official League 1 Thread 2007-2008

[MarkR]

The runners and riders this year are

1 Bournemouth
2 Brighton
3 Bristol Rovers
4 Carlisle
5 Cheltenham
6 Crewe
7 Doncaster
8 Gillingham
9 Hartlepool
10 Huddersfield
11 Leeds
12 Leyton Orient
13 Luton
14 Millwall
15 Northampton
16 Nottm Forest
17 Oldham
18 Port Vale
19 Southend
20 Swansea
21 Swindon
22 Tranmere
23 Walsall
24 Yeovil

If Forest do not finish at least playoffs again then I think they are doomed forever.

Teams to be there or there abouts for me are Doncaster, Leeds, Forest, Swansea and Walsall. Not sure about Southend without Freddie.

[evilsly]

not a chance of Leeds doing anything this season, if anything they could be a good outside bet for relegation

[rbullivant]

Leeds apparently have hardly any players and appear to be in the doldrums, would you sign for Leeds when they can't even pay the players they have now?

Leeds will be the new Forest, but moreso. Everyone will be out to beat them, it'll do us a world of good as we'll no longer be the only big boys.

I'd fancy Forest to win the championship, we've invested wisely!

R

[Fat Bloke]

Anything like last season will do for us. Good for the pub team to upset the big boys :lol:

[sleep4ever]

Hope you kept our seats warm for the one season we were in the Championship :p

Yes we dont have Freddy any more, and yes a season of relegation is usually followed by another season with relegation, but hopefully we can change that this time.

Have bought in some cheap and cheerful signings (Non league striker, Barnet midfielder, Ex Crystal Palace winger on a free).

Will be going to the Vitesse Arnhem friendly, but not the West Ham one.

Forest, Swansea and Leeds top 3, us to finish midtable.

[mklion123]

I'm looking for Millwall making the play-offs this season, given the nightmare start we had last season, mainly due to the after Dennis Wise period, followed by the week or so Nigel spackman was in charge (bringing in around 13 players) we finished quite well.
Forest rightfully favourites, but after that it's a free for all. very open league.

[Fat Bloke]

We're apparently bringing in Marvin Williams next week from Millwall. Saw him play on the opening game of last season, and haven't laughed at a player so much in a long while. So not sure about him coming in.

[mklion123]

I wouldn't pay too much attention to that game, we were in freefall for the first 4 months of the season!!!!
He's got amazing pace, just lacking on the control side of things.
If he could cross the ball he'd be an amazing winger......

[DJBIGJAY]

After a fun year in the Championship i am back.
It was good to be there and i enjoyed the grounds and the teams.
Some great wins especially beating Sunderland 4-1 and watching their fans throw their shirts on the pitch and the 5-0 thumping of QPR.
Some great days out especially the last day away at Southampton the best bit was even when they were ripping us apart our crowd carried on doing the great escape theme for 20 minutes solid. The saints fans looked bemused and then started clapping us. Great day

Well glad to be back here as the Champ thread was not as good as the league one thread from 2005-2006.
All i have to say is we are going back up, say we are going back up.

[sleep4ever]

All i have to say is we are going back up, say we are going back up.

Realistically we're going to be midtable, play offs at best

New shirts purchased, season ticket renewed

Clarke to be immense this season, Paynter to surprise a few people, apart from that pleased with the squad

Surprised McDonald getting the no.10 shirt

[hailesy]

Where's Trundle gone then eh?

Of all clubs to go to he goes to the Wurzels!

George! look out pie sales will be going up in your neck of the woods... :)

[Fat Bloke]

He's not worth £1million and 9k a week though!

[hailesy]

He's not worth £1million and 9k a week though!

lol! I was thinking that as well. Although £1 million in the bank for the Swans can help reinvest in the squad.

Will the jacks crumble now though losing there talisman?

[Fat Bloke]

Although £1 million in the bank for the Swans can help reinvest in the squad.

Swansea should be ******* themselves laughing at that fee!

[Fat Bloke]

Yay! The season hasn't started and we're no longer bottom of the league. :lol:

[George vader]

The runners and riders this year are

1 Bournemouth
2 Brighton
3 Bristol Rovers
4 Carlisle
5 Cheltenham
6 Crewe
7 Doncaster
8 Gillingham
9 Hartlepool
10 Huddersfield
11 Leeds
12 Leyton Orient
13 Luton
14 Millwall
15 Northampton
16 Nottm Forest
17 Oldham
18 Port Vale
19 Southend
20 Swansea
21 Swindon
22 Tranmere
23 Walsall
24 Yeovil


:lol:

[The Bear]

I imagine Trundle will get a tasty reception at Ninian Park after his Playoff Final antics.

[mklion123]

P GD PTS
1 Bournemouth 0 0 0
2 Brighton 0 0 0

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3 Bristol Rovers 0 0 0
4 Carlisle 0 0 0
5 Cheltenham 0 0 0
6 Crewe 0 0 0

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7 Doncaster 0 0 0
8 Gillingham 0 0 0
9 Hartlepool 0 0 0
10 Huddersfield 0 0 0
11 Leyton Orient 0 0 0
12 Luton 0 0 0
13 Millwall 0 0 0
14 Northampton 0 0 0
15 Nottm Forest 0 0 0
16 Oldham 0 0 0
17 Port Vale 0 0 0
18 Southend 0 0 0
19 Swansea 0 0 0
20 Swindon 0 0 0

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21 Tranmere 0 0 0
22 Walsall 0 0 0
23 Yeovil 0 0 0
24 Leeds 0 0 -15

Just updated the league table to cheer Fat Bloke up;)

[Herbal]

Really looking forward to this season, made some great signings. And we sorted out our biggest problem our GK. Ok Trundle has gone but was very impressed with the friendly on Sunday. And Scotland does look very good aswell as our Gk, Rangle and Bodde.

I missed Southend last year so it's nice to have them back :D

I think top 3 will be (not sure on order) Notts Forest, Swansea & Doncaster

[SPB]

My assesment of my team (Swindon):

Solid at the back, solid in midfiled, not very good going forward. I guess we'll have to frind some results out again this year unless we get some transfer funds to but some attacking players. Lower mid-table consolodation.

[DJBIGJAY]

I missed Southend last year so it's nice to have them back :D


Ta very much :)

[rbullivant]

Anyone got any predictions for the season?

I know I'm biased but I think it is Forest's season, can see Leeds getting relegated

R

[MarkR]

Have you seen the Forest injury list????
I can see a shocking start and then never recovering. :(

[Fat Bloke]

Is Cohen still out?

[DJBIGJAY]

Playoffs and a trip to Wembley for us. :D That's my prediction and surely it is time for Forest to get out of this League once and for all.
Bye Bye Leeds too.

[Fat Bloke]

Home to Port Vale today. Should be a good game to start the season.

[Herbal]

Swansea played really well today and should have won it. We hit the post twice and made loads of good chances. Maybe we played a bit too much football.

But the side is looking alot better this year, only thing that did bother me was Lawrence did fall asleep a few times.

But the good signs are there.

[sleep4ever]

A spanking by Leeds, so that we could join them at the bottom of the table

We (obviously) need a striker urgently

Be good to get the first 3 games out of the way (Orient, Leeds and Millwall :gag:)

[Fat Bloke]

Good game today, and our first 3 points of the season.

A few changes after a couple poor games, completely new midfield over last season. Peltier from Liverpool, Ritchie Jones from Man U and Justin Cochrane who all played well today. Very damp pitch didn't help either side. But I feel we'll do well again this season.

[Herbal]

Well nice weekend for us, but whats going on with Forrest. I have heard they played well second half though.

[Fat Bloke]

We had a bit of a smash and grab 2-1 win away at Northampton. Owusu scoring the winner in the 92nd minute :)

[MarkR]

Well nice weekend for us, but whats going on with Forrest. I have heard they played well second half though.

Not sure who they are but Forest played the best they have yesterday and I would say were very unlucky. Leeds had a bit of good luck and skill in front of goal. They had 3 attemts and 2 went in. Forest must have had more possession and at least double the amount of attempts but had nothing to show for it.
Forest looked far more positive than they have for quite a while so not panicing just yet but it's not a great start unlike last season.

[Herbal]

'They' are Forrest :D

[MarkR]

Well Nottm Forest (not Notts Forrest that I saw on a keyring in Portsmouth at the weekend) were winning 1-0 against Leicester in the Carling Cup and then the match was abandoned due to Clive Clark who played in the 1st half collapsing in the changing room.
Apparantly he was seen in the ambulance sitting it up but I think then presumably taken away in the ambulance.

I guess they had no option but the 1st half commentary was as if we were Premiership against League 2 it was so 1 sided. Just our luck :(

[Herbal]

Also heard about this and to be honest with the news today of the Sevilla player they had no choice, on SSN it said the players were very distressed about it and even tried putting the 2nd half back 15 mins then a further 10mins.

What will happen now, will they start fresh or start from the 2nd half?

[MarkR]

I was listening to the commentary and they kept delaying it and then it looked like it would be completed as he had been sitting up in the ambulance after coming round.
Then Calderwood came out with Martin Allen and they looked like they were both due to say something but Allen looked too distressed to do it so Calderwood just stated that the clubs had come to the conclusion to abandon the match.
Unfortunately this was greeted with boos aswell as clapping and Calderwood then asked everyone to leave the ground in a calm manner and then put his arm round Allen and they both walked down the tunnel.

[rbullivant]

Had two heart attacks apparently, pretty shocking and he needed a defib

R

[MarkR]

Very quite in here. Are everyones teams not doing as expected? :suspect:

So after 10 games the table looks something like this

Coca-Cola Football League One : Table
06 Oct 16:58
| Home | Away
Team P W D L F A W D L F A GD PTS
1 Tranmere 10 2 2 1 8 6 3 2 0 7 3 6 19
2 Leyton Orient 10 2 1 2 6 11 4 0 1 9 6 -2 19

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3 Carlisle 10 3 1 1 7 2 2 2 1 9 6 8 18
4 Swansea 10 2 2 1 5 4 3 0 2 11 6 6 17
5 Nottm Forest 9 2 1 1 7 3 2 3 0 8 3 9 16
6 Swindon 10 3 1 1 12 4 1 3 1 6 6 8 16

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7 Southend 10 3 0 2 9 6 2 1 2 7 9 1 16
8 Hartlepool 10 2 2 1 9 6 2 0 3 8 8 3 14
9 Brighton 10 3 1 1 9 5 1 1 3 3 5 2 14
10 Walsall 10 1 2 2 6 7 3 0 2 7 6 0 14
11 Yeovil 10 1 2 2 2 5 3 0 2 5 4 -2 14
12 Leeds 10 5 0 0 10 1 4 1 0 9 3 15 13
13 Northampton 10 3 1 1 9 4 0 3 2 6 9 2 13
14 Huddersfield 10 2 1 2 6 6 2 0 3 3 10 -7 13
15 Bristol Rovers 10 0 3 2 6 10 2 3 0 5 3 -2 12
16 Doncaster 10 2 1 2 7 5 1 1 3 6 9 -1 11
17 Luton 10 3 1 1 9 6 0 1 4 2 7 -2 11
18 Oldham 9 2 0 3 5 6 1 1 2 5 6 -2 10
19 Crewe 10 2 1 2 5 7 0 3 2 5 8 -5 10
20 Gillingham 10 3 1 1 7 5 0 0 5 1 16 -13 10

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21 Cheltenham 10 1 3 1 5 5 1 0 4 3 9 -6 9
22 Port Vale 10 1 1 3 5 7 1 1 3 3 5 -4 8
23 Bournemouth 10 0 1 4 2 8 2 1 2 7 7 -6 8
24 Millwall 10 2 0 3 6 6 0 2 3 0 8 -8 8

Forest have come into a bit of form due in main to the arrival of Chris Cohen it seems. Played pretty well today but again 1 mistake cost us a goal and almost 2 points. Still have Lockwood and Davies to return in the next few weeks.

[Fat Bloke]

11th place with 9 players out with injuries who would be involved in the first team squad. Can't complain too much.

[SPB]

We (Swindon) gave the Pikeys (Gills) a spanking today 5-0 and it could/should have been 8,9 or 10!

9 goals in two home games. It'll never last!

[sleep4ever]

Lost to Tranmere today

Not a particularly good side, just very good at set pieces (which we were hopeless at defending). Doncaster are probably the best side we have seen at the Hall so far.

Always the hard way with us, with Orient losing considerably to Swansea, all we needed to do was beat Tranmere and we'd have gone top. So todays the day we cant defend corners (amazed that we cleared a third attempt from a corner off the line).

Still, another home next week to put things right

We'll also be able to see where people loyalties lie as the England game starts directly after the final whistle on saturday, so some people might give it a miss

[Herbal]

Well Swansea beat the Orient 5-0 and tbh seeing a few posts and such it was never a 5-0 game. And hoepfully this will not show the fact that we have a big problem in defence. Yes our GK and full backs are really good but i fear for our centre backs.

We have not been playing fantastic football but if we hit form and show what we can do at the start of the season then hopefully this will be our season. But we really need more players in Jan (and get rid of a few too) and a loan CB as a matter of urgency.

[Fat Bloke]

More injuries for us.

We've got 12 out! And could field a stronger team from the players currently out than the fit ones!

[Fat Bloke]

Goals! A win! Woohoo! :clap:

A big change in formation today. Played 4 3 3, and surprise surprise we created chances. Heads didn't drop after going a goal down, and a cracking free kick for the 3 points.

Some of our players are starting to recover from thier injuries as well. :thumbs:

[Herbal]

Nice win for Southend always got a soft spot for them since we played you at our last game of the 05-06 season, the day you won promotion. Was one of the best atmospheres i've seen down at the Liberty.

But if Swans win by any margin tomorrow we go top :clap:

[sleep4ever]

Nice win for Southend always got a soft spot for them since we played you at our last game of the 05-06 season, the day you won promotion. Was one of the best atmospheres i've seen down at the Liberty.

But if Swans win by any margin tomorrow we go top :clap:

Wasnt a good game by any means

Crewe were poor, not as bad as Gillingham, apart from a goal disallowed for offside I dont remember them creating that many chances.

Some fairly random/unpredictable team selection, a striker who hadnt even been on the bench in a while went straight into the first team, our captain was rested for the first in ages and a defender was taken out to make way for a left back coming back from injury.

Good luck for tomorrow

[Herbal]

:clap: We are top of the league :clap:

4-1 away. But not getting carried away as it came back to bite us 2 years ago.

[sleep4ever]

Another win

Another 2nd v 3rd match coming up next saturday

Hopefully we can sign Leon Clarke up before other teams realise how good he is...

[douglasb]

Not sure how long it will last, so for posterity's sake:

1 Carlisle 13 10 24
2 Swansea 12 10 23
3 Tranmere 13 8 23

:thumbs:

We have not played particularly good football this season but have secured the results. The away win against Southend on Saturday being another good result.

The real test is from now on, with (I think) EIGHT of our next 9 league games being against teams in the top 10. We have no 'easy' games between now and the end of the year and there's every possibility we may drop like a stone!

We welcome Leeds to Brunton Park on Saturday and the biggest crowd of the season ...

[GregB]

not a chance of Leeds doing anything this season, if anything they could be a good outside bet for relegation


Worst. Prediction. Ever.

[sleep4ever]

We have not played particularly good football this season but have secured the results. The away win against Southend on Saturday being another good result

A deserved win, and fair play to your fans who turned up on the day and made some noise

We didnt play well, and you missed an absolute sitter which should have made it two

We need our wingers to rediscover some form, as we've got two away games, including the dreaded Forest one

[Herbal]

Forgot about this thread.

Really had a nice day out in Yeovil on Saturday apart from:

No Roof
Wind
Bloody freezing
No beer in the stadium
Someone at the Yeovil with a megaphone :nuts:

But apart from the little things it was a very good day out and a nice win for us aswell.

Things are looking good but i'm not getting carried away as this came back to bite us 2 years ago, but i think we do have a better man in charge who will not blow £1m in the transfer window.

As for leeds i think they are playing very well, but with Poyet going this could have a lmajoe effect on them. But they will have a bad spell soon. (i hope so)

[Chef]

not a chance of Leeds doing anything this season, if anything they could be a good outside bet for relegation


Great prediction m8...any chance you`re a Manure fan ?

[douglasb]

A satisfying thumping of Leeds then. Cue much teeth gnashing and general hostility from our Yorkshire bretheren elsewhere on the 'net, but who cares? They'll no doubt hump us on the return leg, but it's always nice to inject a little reality into the lives of a big club now and then!

[MarkR]

A satisfying thumping of Leeds then. Cue much teeth gnashing and general hostility from our Yorkshire bretheren elsewhere on the 'net, but who cares? They'll no doubt hump us on the return leg, but it's always nice to inject a little reality into the lives of a big club now and then!

You will have the same opportunity and take it on Sky in a couple of weeks. :(

[cabor]

A satisfying thumping of Leeds then. Cue much teeth gnashing and general hostility from our Yorkshire bretheren elsewhere on the 'net, but who cares? They'll no doubt hump us on the return leg, but it's always nice to inject a little reality into the lives of a big club now and then!

Great performance by Carlisle in the 2nd half, hope we get back on track on
Tuesday.

[MarkR]

We need our wingers to rediscover some form, as we've got two away games, including the dreaded Forest one

If some player of yours had not raised his hands then I could only ever see some kind of result for you. You had a good tactic that Forest used to do is soak up pressure and hit on the break. It was working well.
Forest were lucky to take the lead in the 2nd half with which looked like a dubious offside (Tyson is fast so until I see a replay not sure) and then shortly after that player got sent off and then it was just 1 way traffic.
If it wasn't for your keeper it could have been about 8.

Out of interest were away tickets £5 for you as all seats all people were £5 for Forest last night?

[sleep4ever]

If some player of yours had not raised his hands then I could only ever see some kind of result for you. You had a good tactic that Forest used to do is soak up pressure and hit on the break. It was working well.
Forest were lucky to take the lead in the 2nd half with which looked like a dubious offside (Tyson is fast so until I see a replay not sure) and then shortly after that player got sent off and then it was just 1 way traffic.
If it wasn't for your keeper it could have been about 8.

Out of interest were away tickets £5 for you as all seats all people were £5 for Forest last night?

Yup, great gesture by Forest as we paid much more for worse teams/grounds (Brighton off the top of my head).

Cant complain as I would have been happy for a draw but didnt expect to win

Leon's a silly boy unfortunately

[MarkR]

You will have the same opportunity and take it on Sky in a couple of weeks. :(

This is not happenening now as Forest have had too many call ups for Internationals so it has been postponed.
Wonder if Sky will look for another game to show or probably too late now.
Would have been good 1st v 2nd.

[rbullivant]

I thought they'd moved another game to cover the SKY?

R

[d.boyd1uk]

Fat Bloke, how is Darren Way getting on with you?
I really wanted him to make it big at swansea but the poor bloke has been injured for the last 2 years.

[MarkR]

Well Forest played the best I think I have seen them play in years on Saturday. Beat Crewe 2-0 but the posession was all Forest, hitting the woodwork 5 times, good saves from their keeper and 1 cleared off the line. I think Forest were superb but I think they were also helped by the way Crewe came to play also.
Now watch them get beat in the FA Cup replay tomorrow against Lincoln :|

[sleep4ever]

Lost to Luton

Our problem is goals still, our top scorer suspended and our loan winger ineligible to play last saturday

Harrold missed another penalty

Infuriating as we know we can play better

[MarkR]

The table for Christmas looks like this then.

1 Nottm Forest 20 21 37
2 Swansea 19 17 37

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3 Leeds 21 26 36
4 Carlisle 19 16 36
5 Leyton Orient 21 0 35
6 Walsall 21 6 32

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7 Southend 21 2 32
8 Yeovil 21 0 32
9 Doncaster 21 9 31
10 Brighton 20 6 30
11 Huddersfield 21 -12 29
12 Tranmere 21 3 28
13 Hartlepool 21 2 27
14 Oldham 20 2 27
15 Swindon 20 1 26
16 Northampton 21 -4 24
17 Crewe 21 -12 24
18 Gillingham 20 -15 22
19 Bristol Rovers 19 -7 19
20 Millwall 20 -13 19

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21 Cheltenham 20 -14 18
22 Luton 20 -1 16
23 Port Vale 21 -15 16
24 Bournemouth 21 -18 16

I seem to remember Forest being near the top this time last year but then it all started falling apart.
Can Leeds really maintain their run?

[d.boyd1uk]

from brighton up i reckon, its going to be close, swansea beating leeds could be good for forest etc...

[AndyWilson]

...on the other hand, Leeds beating Swansea would be even better for Leeds :D

[Fat Bloke]

I'd settle for a Friday night out in May like last year........

[SPB]

from brighton up i reckon, its going to be close, swansea beating leeds could be good for forest etc...

Swindon beating Swansea will screw any gain for the latter ;)

[Chef]

Can Leeds really maintain their run?

Leeds will probably maintain their run until they actually reach top spot. Then they`ll probably let their foot off the gas and start losing :|

[d.boyd1uk]

Dec 29th will be a tester between leeds and swansea which of the two will get promoted, leeds game is a sell out nearly 20,000, should be a good un.

[sleep4ever]

Good result for Swansea today

We had a far from unexpected defeat, Doncaster were one of the best sides we'd seen at the Hall this season, all they needed was to be a bit more prolific in front of goal.

Hopefully Leon Clarke signs tommorow, and we buy a new centre back in the transfer window (preferably not in the last hour on the last day)

[d.boyd1uk]

I wasnt at the match but my brother in law was, he reckoned swansea stuffed leeds good and proper, should have scored another 2-3 goals.

[The Bear]

Hopefully Leon Clarke signs tommorow, and we buy a new centre back in the transfer window (preferably not in the last hour on the last day)
How do you lot rate Clarke? At Wolves he always tried hard but lacked enough real talent to make a difference in The Championship.

He got slated as being overweight by Wolves fans and a pile of *****. Personally I thought he was quite built but not carrying too much weight, which helped with his strength, and usually a very good finisher when he got a chance in front of goal.

[sleep4ever]

How do you lot rate Clarke? At Wolves he always tried hard but lacked enough real talent to make a difference in The Championship.

He got slated as being overweight by Wolves fans and a pile of *****. Personally I thought he was quite built but not carrying too much weight, which helped with his strength, and usually a very good finisher when he got a chance in front of goal.

He's deceptively good...

He lumbers round looking like he's not in the game, then will either hold off 3 defenders before burying the ball in the goal or appear in the right place at the right time. Some of the people I sit with at the ground hadnt seen him play when he was prolific earlier in the season and wondered if we were talking about the same player when they saw him.

We'd be up **** creek without him to be honest, and should be taking Sheff Wed's hands off at the wrists to sign him.

[Herbal]

I was not at the Leeds match (wedding) but was there Boxing Day and we are playing some great football at the moment. Also going to Swindon tomorrow so that hopefully will be another 3 pts.

But losing bodde for 5 games will be a loss but hopefully we have a good enough squad to handle it. And Bodde needs to sort out this part of his game as we so far have had he suspended for 8 games.

[sleep4ever]

We sent back Leon Clarke :lol: :brickwall

We played terribly today, kept playing the long ball game to a particularly short striker which as you can guess wasnt effective

Bristol Rovers goal coming wasnt a surprise

Southend players seemed lethargic, fans vented their frustration only to be told to **** off by one of our midfielders. Did the trick though as he played out of his skin after that

We need a striker/strikers and another centre back.

Expect Hammell to be leaving to

Still the Leeds result is cheering me up at least

[SPB]

Also going to Swindon tomorrow so that hopefully will be another 3 pts.


Unlucky:) That's us unbeaten over the xmas break (8/12 points) but our leading scorer has gone back to REading and our other first choice is now suspended.

Thought we were going to get a stuffing the longer the game went on, but was pleasantly surprised.

I guess we were limited to counter attack, but I think a draw was a fair reflection. Top save by Brez down your end in the second half , and you had one off the line and one off the bar. That said, we had two off the line ourselves and although the pen was a bit soft, the player took the risk by taking down the man.

What did Corr get sent off for? Was it stamping on your player/

[Herbal]

I thought a draw was also a fair result as we did not get going untill the 70th minute. I missed the red card as it was off the ball but someone by me said it was for stamping on the back of his (monks) leg.

We could also not see the penalty from where we were but you should have had one 2/3mins before that. And you deserved a goal just for the last 5 mins of play.

But Leeds got a beating so at least that went down well.

[sleep4ever]

Crazy transfer window talk for us, associating us with loads of different strikers from the Championship down, most of it from hopeful fans

Signed a new bloke from Charlton for £200,000

Leon Clarke went back to Sheff Wed and Dean Morgan went back to Luton after having a blinding last game for us

More strikers please!

[MarkR]

The Leon Best saga continues to rumble on at Forest. Tried to get him in the summer and now supposedly going in for a 3rd try this month alone. Last offer was rumoured to be £1 Mil so we must think he's worth it as not spent that kind of money on 1 player in a few years.

[SPB]

We gave Forest a stuffing today. OK they scored 2 (two) OGs, but you'll have to take my word for it we were well worth the win after dominating for 90 minutes.

Must have been a bad day at the office for Forest, because they were awful, and you don't get into 2nd place by being awful.

[MarkR]

I was listening to it and it sounded like Swindon were all over Forest in the 1st half with a slight improvement in the 2nd. We only improved when we went 2-1 down and maybe it was biased commentary but they were pretty sure about the penalty claim in injury time.

Leon Best did not play for Coventry today or on the bench so maybe that is a good sign for us?
We play 1 of our games in hand away to Milwall in midweek when we need to at least get a point as the chasing pack as made up ground today. We should be grateful that Doncaster beat Leeds really.

[SPB]

I was listening to it and it sounded like Swindon were all over Forest in the 1st half with a slight improvement in the 2nd. We only improved when we went 2-1 down and maybe it was biased commentary but they were pretty sure about the penalty claim in injury time.


The penalty claim was the other end of the ground from where I sit (behind the goal). Tyson was in front of Ifil, then he went down. My heart stopped at that point. But I really couldn't tell how much (if any) contact was made.

Over and above that you had two dangerous corners, one you scored from and one that didn't hit the target but should have. Also a couple of longer range shots that were well wide, a couple of crosses that were snuffed out by our keeper.

Not sure you were much better in the second half than the first. We made most of our chances in the 15 after half time. Also beat the keeper, watched the ball roll towards the goal only to stop abruptly in the mud! That's when I though it was going to be one of those days :)

But like I say, whilst we are fairly resilient and played bloody well today, I also know that wasn't the real Forest. Last time we beat you 2-1 at the CG we lost 7-1 at your place.

[sleep4ever]

Great win against Leeds tonight

We played really well, hard to pick out man of the match (neither could the sponsors giving the award to two players)

Fast paced, end to end stuff with no timewasting

You can never tell which Southend will turn up...:D

[MarkR]

Well 2nd v 1st showed why Swansea are top. Without question the best team to be at the City Ground this season so far. Never stopped working and in the 2nd half actually got better.
A point was never going to be enough really and it has now meant Forest have slipped to 3rd but it could have been a lot worse but wasn't thanks to Leeds and Carlisle losing along with Walsall and Leyton Orient drawing.
Forest must go to Bournemouth and win on Saturday otherwise they could be out of the playoffs even come 5pm Saturday. :(

[sleep4ever]

Had the misfortune to see the worst refereeing display I've seen in a long while

Danny McDermid took charge at Orient V Southend today and he was shocking

Apart from that things are looking promising

Barnard is a very industrious player with the ability to score goals

And Mulgrew who we have on loan from Wolves looks rather good, a tall left back for once

4 points from 2 games and Hartlepool & Millwall coming up

[Herbal]

Swans were not great yesterday but you have to give credit to Oldham. But this is how leagues are won when you dont play your best and still get the 3 pts which all that matter.

We must now loose 4 games, which tbh i cannot see us doing atm but never say never in football. But if we do not go up this season i think half od our squad will go.

But would it be nice to go up 16 points and above Leeds so they cannot say 'but if we had those 15pts'.

Come on the Jacks!! :D

[MarkR]

Terrible result for Forest at Bournemouth. Just to add insult to injury Leon Best scores 2 goals for Coventry also. Hopefully this will wake up Calderwood that something must be done.
Unfortunately we should win against Millwall on Saturday at home so he will think everything is rosey again. :(

[mklion123]

Terrible result for Forest at Bournemouth. Just to add insult to injury Leon Best scores 2 goals for Coventry also. Hopefully this will wake up Calderwood that something must be done.
Unfortunately we should win against Millwall on Saturday at home so he will think everything is rosey again. :(

lets hope you dont then;)

[MarkR]

Well a comfortable 2-0 win for Forest over Millwall gives Calderwood the opportunity to basically say we were on the players back because we hadn't scored in the 1st 20 minutes.
It was 0-0 at half time and the players were rightly booed off as apart from the 1st 5 minutes both teams were as bad as each other. For the last 5 mins of the half a part of the ground were chanting 4-4-2 as the 4-3-3 formation just never works and makes the team look rubbish.
In the 2nd half Forest score 2 goals from Defenders both from set pieces and therefore a win is recorded. If it had been any half decent performance against Forest then that would not have been the case.

You would think it looks like a good time to be playing Leeds away like we are doing tomorrow but I will not be holding my breath. :|

[MarkR]

Huge game at the top of the league tonight live on Sky. 4th place Forest play 3rd placed Carlisle and whoever wins will go 2nd.
It's a sellout at Forest due to every ticket being £5 so all the makings of Forest blowing their fantastic home record of losing just 1 game at home all season and that was to a late goal v Leeds back in August.
Forest never seem to cope with the cameras on them the past couple of years so I hope they don't bottle it again.

[rbullivant]

They beat Yeovil in front of the Sky cameras 2-0 in the first leg of the playoffs whilst playing awfully, so maybe the "sky jinx is over". Lets hope 30k fans cheer the reds on to victory

Can't believe we've sold out though, just goes to show that it's high ticket prices keeping many locals away.

I'll be watching in the pub on SKY (too far to travel for a midweek game)

R

[Fat Bloke]

They beat Yeovil in front of the Sky cameras 2-0 in the first leg of the playoffs whilst playing awfully, so maybe the "sky jinx is over". Lets hope 30k fans cheer the reds on to victory


Remind me what happened in the 2nd leg? Which was also on sky......

[arsenalfc]

http://img3.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/ec539e3ba0.jpg

[MarkR]

Calderwood never learns and the keeper gifted them the win with that being their only shot!
The next 7 games for Forest are
Crewe A
Southend A
Walsall H
Northampton A
Brighton H
Doncaster A
Carlisle A

After that little lot we could be out of the playoffs nevermind automatic!

[The Bear]

That's a tough run, especially the away games.

You should beat Brighton and Crewe, but the rest...

[d.boyd1uk]

4 more wins and the jacks should be promoted :D

can swansea hang on to martinez?
my guess if carries on the rest of the season winning, bigger boys will come in for him.

[sleep4ever]

Calderwood never learns and the keeper gifted them the win with that being their only shot!
The next 7 games for Forest are
Crewe A
Southend A
Walsall H
Northampton A
Brighton H
Doncaster A
Carlisle A

After that little lot we could be out of the playoffs nevermind automatic!

Oh yes, tuesday night, really looking forward to it :thumbs:

Luton tommorow for us, which we should realistically win at a canter but wouldnt be surprised if we struggled or even lost

[Fat Bloke]

3 big games coming for us. Saturday home to Cheltenham, Tuesday home to Millwall and Saturday away to Bournemouth. These 3 games will determine our season. :eek:

[MarkR]

Went to see Forest at Crewe and Forest had the better chances and possession but was all for nothing as had no cutting edge and just had 0-0 written all over it as Crewe didn't have a shot.
Southend have nothing to worry about on Tuesday and Ormeroyd was worse than Grant Holt if that is possible.

[mklion123]

Went to see Forest at Crewe and Forest had the better chances and possession but was all for nothing as had no cutting edge and just had 0-0 written all over it as Crewe didn't have a shot.
Southend have nothing to worry about on Tuesday and Ormeroyd was worse than Grant Holt if that is possible.

I'm sure Swansea thought the same Friday :thumbs:

[sleep4ever]

Southend have nothing to worry about on Tuesday and Ormeroyd was worse than Grant Holt if that is possible.

We struggled against Luton yesterday

It was only their keeper slipping over and passing the ball straight to our striker for the second goal that gave us a slightly flattering scoreline

A bit more composure and Luton would have come away with at least a point

Im hoping the Southend that beat Leeds turns up, not the Southend that struggles against Bournemouth & Hartlepool

Still, tuesday should be a cracking match

[Herbal]

Swansea did some awful defending on friday ans quite right Millwall deserved the win. If we cannot defend properly then we don't deserve to win any game. But we did have alot of chances so if we did have our normal defence in place (3 of our normal back 4 were out) i think it would have been a diffrent result.

But also the fact that the press leading up was about Jackett returning and it was Millwall (after what happend last season here) and of course our mini break in Spain did not help things

But let's get back on track and stuff Tramere on Tuesday.

JACKS ARE GOING UP!!! :D

[sleep4ever]

I'd never thought I'd see the day when I'd be disappointed by a draw with Forest.

We were the better team in the first half, the introduction of Tyson at half time changed the game, his pace and chasing lost causes. Forest took charge shortly after the break and it was only a matter of time before they equalised equalised.

We had a goal attempt cleared off the line, and a couple of good chances, Forest were better at set pieces, and we kept conceding corners.

Forest fans were quite quiet (I never once heard 'you're only here for the forest'), Forest's manager or assistant manager celebrated the goal like he'd just won the Champions league (I dont think I've ever seen a goal celebrated by an opposing manager quite that way), but I have to admit a draw was a fair result.

Officials were rubbish, I dont think either team would have been happy with them.

A good match to watch, just frustrating

[MarkR]

I listened to it all at home last night and Forest sounded awful in the 1st half. Subs were made and words said in the changing rooms seemed to change the game completely. Forest improved a lot and the commentators said it had actually turned into a great game in the 2nd half with both teams going for it. They didn't mention the celebration but I read a 'report' from someone who was there and they mentioned it also.
The interview with Calderwood at the end of the game made out that he was upset with how the players were in the 1st half as it reflected on him (must have heard the chants of are you Megson in disguise) and that with taking underperforming players off and changing shape they showed what they could do in the 2nd half. I think it was the most passionate I have heard him ever.

Walsall at home on Saturday and they are our bogey team big time and can't see a win at all. :(

[douglasb]

13 home wins in a row for Carlisle. Club record. We're building up a good buffer against the teams in 4th-6th place but my fear is that we don't overcome Doncaster and we make an arse of it in the play-offs.

[SPB]

...Carlisle....

Did you go todays game? We threw the kitchen sink at you for 75 of the 90 and you defended like your lives depended on it. Your keeper was superb too. Gits.

In true Swindon style we allowed you to score from 2 of your 4 chances :brickwall

Good luck for the rest of the season.

[MarkR]

Forest do not manage to beat Walsall for the 11th game running and the goal Walsall scored was an unfortunate own goal.
The ever improving Northampton on Friday night away which I am going to but I can see come Saturday night Forest being out of the playoffs!

[Fat Bloke]

Best performance today for a long time. Think Donnie are sick of the sight of us, we are their bogey team.

Our 2nd goal was comedy genuis from Sullivan in the Donnie goal. He received a back pass with loads of time to clear, but he decides to wait for Owusu to close him down and trys to dribble around him. But Owusu tackles him and wins the ball and traps into the open goal :thumbs:

[sleep4ever]

Very exciting game at Roots Hall today

Draw was the fair result

We missed a couple of clearcut chances, Swansea's bombardment of our goal at one point amazes me even now how it didnt go in, a shot hit the crossbar only for a swansea player to try and bicycle kick it in (which was saved) only for it to fall to another player who put it wide.

A clear cut penalty, and a good delivery on the freekick for us to equalise.

Referee had a bit of an off day, even obstructing a Swansea player to break up a Swansea attack at one point, and the game did get a bit niggly (some bad tackles going in, and McCormack talked himself into the book).

The weather didnt help either, the number of times people put the ball down only for it to blow away (the penalty, and to much amusement a Swansea corner).

Swindon away next up

[SPB]

Swindon away next up

Bring it on!

[MarkR]

Went to Northampton for the Forest match last night and it was a cracking match even though Premiership ref (what a joke!) Rob Styles had a shocker. We were at the other end of the pitch to the sending off and have not seen it but it looked a 50/50 and Perch is not the kind of player to be going in over the top or 2 footed etc.
Then the penalty he awarded for us was never a penalty and was almost like he was trying to make up for the sending off.
Encouring perfomance for Forest and especially at a place where they had gone 10 home games unbeaten and pushing for the playoffs.

Brighton at home on Monday who are also coming into form and is a must win to at least get back to back wins before making the trip to Doncaster on Friday night.

[SPB]

even though Premiership ref (what a joke!) Rob Styles had a shocker.

Surely not, next you'll be suggesting that sending people off is just his way of making sure he is the centre of attention.

Our 'derby' match against Rovers ended up with 9-a-side. Then one of out players got an extra game ban for taking 42 seconds to leave the pitch instead of the allotted 30 - thanks to Styles match report.

The guy is a prize **** who should be confined to refereeing in the premiership and never darken the lower leagues again.

[Alan b]

Premiership referee's should not be allowed to take charge of games outside of the Premiership. If they have a poor match then they should not be allowed to take charge of a game in a lower league as a "punishment", instead they should be put in charge of either a non league game or a reserve fixture.

There are a few of them that clearly think that they are better than taking charge of games outside the top flight so why should these clubs have to put up with them.

[Fat Bloke]

The guy is a prize **** who should be confined to refereeing in the premiership and never darken the lower leagues again.

Prem refs think they are above league players. Never seen one have a good game when officiating one of our games. Dermot 'Premiership' Gallagher is the worse.

[SPB]

Bring it on!

Erm, well brought on Southend. We were awful for 70-75 mins and you looked well up for it.But we could have snatched an undeserved draw with 3 excellent late chances.

Best of luck going up (I hate Roots Hall!).

[Alan b]

Just finished watching the Swansea/Bristol Rovers game and what a superb game it was, probably the best game I have seen this season. Rovers were 2-0 up at half time and probably could have been 4-0 up if they hadn't had one cleared of the line and another hit the post either side of their first goal. After the break Swansea got back in the game quickly through Jason Scotland who got the equalizer. The home team certainly got their fair share of shots in on the Rovers goal but for good goalkeeping, an effort hitting the post and one being cleared of the line in injury time they were unable to force a victory.

That Jason Scotland looks a superb player and I can see him get quite a few goals in the Championship next season.

[d.boyd1uk]

Jason Scotland, believe it or not, half of the swans fans think he is useless, i agree he his a top player, great game though, swans should have won it though.

[sleep4ever]

Erm, well brought on Southend. We were awful for 70-75 mins and you looked well up for it.But we could have snatched an undeserved draw with 3 excellent late chances.

Best of luck going up (I hate Roots Hall!).

Ah Billy Paynter...I think we were due some luck

Walsall tommorow with the ref from the Orient away game :brickwall

[MarkR]

Donny have just beaten Forest so that confirms it will be 2 from 3 now and if Forest don't pull their socks up they are not going to make the playoffs!

[Herbal]

Another great win for the Swans today after letting in a goal in 26 seconds :eek. If Leeds beat Donny on Tuesday and we win next week and Donny loose then we are up :D

[sleep4ever]

For some reason the 'other' Southend again turned up today

I thought Walsall were going to be something special but we were tore them apart today, almost a constant bombardment, they didnt have a shot on goal of any note in the first half, and seemed to rely on corners for any kind of attacking threat. They were almost Gillingham bad.

Possibly the best Ive seen us play this season.

Up to 4th, but some tricky games coming up, and I've still got a nagging feeling Leeds are going to pull something before the end of the season.

Pleased for Swansea if they go up they deserve it.

[hailesy]

Another great win for the Swans today after letting in a goal in 26 seconds :eek. If Leeds beat Donny on Tuesday and we win next week and Donny loose then we are up :D


Can't wait for you lot to come up next season.

Easy Six points and the great derby days back :p

[Herbal]

Really looking forward to that as well. The banter will be amazing i think.

[Fat Bloke]

Never heard it called 'banter' before!

[MarkR]

Forest beat Carlisle 2-0 which was Carlisle's 2nd loss at home this season after drawing 1 and winning 18!! They had won the last 14 at home on the trot. So why can't Forest do that at home against the likes of Brighton etc??? Forest now have 2 home games against Cheltenham and Bristol Rovers so time to cement our playoff position.

[douglasb]

A few weary legs by the middle of the 2nd half last night, but holding Swansea to a 0-0 was probably a fair result. Bit of an old-school affair with some clattering tackles, the occasional argy-bargy and even a rammy in the tunnel at half-time. Not optimistic about coming away from Leeds with anything on Saturday, but 6pts clear of 3rd? You'd take that at this stage.

[rubbafish]

Especially as 3rd is my beloved Donny and we are so far off the boil it is untrue. I would kinda like the league to finish as it is so we could beat Leeds over 2 legs int he play off semi (they hold no fear for us) and avoid Forest and Southend who have come in to form until the final.

I was never confident of automatic promotion but if we can get a result against Swindon on Friday and Leeds can take points off Carlisle we might have a shout (although 2 of our last 3 are away from home).

[Herbal]

THE JACKS ARE GOING UP

League 1 >> http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/247/trainrh0.gif >> Championship :clap:

Could not make the Gills trip but down the Liberty was the next best thing, cracking atmosphere.

Well Done all the boys and staff :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[d.boyd1uk]

THE JACKS ARE GOING UP

League 1 >> http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/247/trainrh0.gif >> Championship :clap:

Could not make the Gills trip but down the Liberty was the next best thing, cracking atmosphere.

Well Done all the boys and staff :thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:


:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap::clap:

everyone onboard :thumbs:

[paulsaz]

:wave:

and the valiants are off to win league two next year :nuts:

:( been a lousy season, glad it's almost over.

[hailesy]

Well Done Swansea. See you down Ninian Park next season.

[SPB]

Congrats Swansea, you deserved it this year.

[Fat Bloke]

It's about time swansea went up with the amount of money they've been spending over the last few years though!

Slightly ironic that they go up in the same season they get rid of their 'saviour' that was the fat one.

[MarkR]

Yes Swansea have been a class above everyone this year.

Forest manage to only draw at home on Tuesday against Bristol Rovers but win 2-0 away at Playoff chasing Tranmere. Inconsistency??? Who would have thought it from Forest who have not won 3 games on a trot all season.

Looking like playoffs v Southend now unless this whole Leeds thing ends up in points back to them.

[Herbal]

It's about time swansea went up with the amount of money they've been spending over the last few years though!

Slightly ironic that they go up in the same season they get rid of their 'saviour' that was the fat one.

We have not spent alot of money this year.

Angel - Free
Bodde - 50k
Bauza - Free
Scotland - 25k
De Vires - Free
Collins - Free
Duffy 200k (Ouch! Hopefully get most of this back in the summer as he has been very poor and the deal was agreed when he came on loan to us last season)

Jackett spent loads of money but did get some of that back. But the most of our new squad did not cost alot of money

And yes we did get £1m for 'Oh Lord' Lee Trundle. Which was a great piece of business for a 30yr old.

[Fat Bloke]

So you think you aren't paying high wages or big signing on fees then?

I also said over the last few years not just this year.

Darren Way tripled and more his wages when he joined you, and got a 6 figure signing on fee. The transfer fee you paid for him has doubled now you've got promotion, but it's still peanuts.

You got £1.3m for fatboy. BC made 6 offers before you gave in. Laughed all the way to bank I think :lol:

[Herbal]

I don't think we spend as much as Forest or Leeds. And we got 1m for 'Oh Lord' but have not seen it all yet.

Yes we spent big 2 years ago but we did break even or just profit as we had play off finals and JPT (LDV) trophy aswell as Welsh Cup. I also think if we did not spend £1m in the January window of 2006 we could have been promoted that season.


Also i don't think there are massive signing on fees for the players we bought in from overseas this year as they were quite unknown at the time. Maybe a 10k for some players etc.

Darren Way can go back where he came from as that idiot Jackett bought him when he was injured and has only played a handful of games in over 2 years.

Hopefully we get rid of the deadwood and hopefully finish top 20 next season.

[sleep4ever]

Looking like playoffs v Southend now unless this whole Leeds thing ends up in points back to them.

A team we havent beaten this season...no ta ;)

Still think Doncaster were the best team I've seen at Roots Hall this season, their passing/movement was very impressive all they needed at the time was a striker.

Wouldnt be surprised if Leeds managed to get some points back, they were discussing it tonight on 5 Live.

All we had to do was beat Northampton last saturday to guarantee a play off place...never the easy way

[Fat Bloke]

Swansea 1 Yeovil 2

Get in!!! Keeps us up in League One now. brizzle rovers get a late goal to draw with Gillingham which means we're now 7 points ahead of gills with 6 points left to play for. Still lots of changes needs for next season so we can avoid a repeat of the mess that is this season.

[d.boyd1uk]

Swansea 1 Yeovil 2

Get in!!! Keeps us up in League One now. brizzle rovers get a late goal to draw with Gillingham which means we're now 7 points ahead of gills with 6 points left to play for. Still lots of changes needs for next season so we can avoid a repeat of the mess that is this season.

yeah, well done, Yeovil could have scored 4 or 5 today, poor finishing. swansea looked better when the subs came on. swansea need changes if they want to stay in the championship, especially the defence, shocking :(

[Fat Bloke]

Yeovil could have scored 4 or 5 today, poor finishing.

That's why we are where we are in the table tbh.

Couldn't beleive Barry missed the one on one.

[d.boyd1uk]

Russell Slade is very passionate, listen to his interview on bbc, so do you want him out?

[Fat Bloke]

Lots of talk about it on the Yeovil Forum. Not a lot of happy people over his comments. It's his "What are you complaining about" attitude that annoys me. This season has been ****, but he seems to think we've got nothing to moan about.

[Herbal]

Swans were very poor yesterday but thank god Carlise lost and made me totally forget about the game.

FB - Were you at the game yesterday? There was talk of coin throwing from some idiots in our end and as a result the away fans will not be allowed near the 'nutter' end anymore.

I was 2 blocks over and although there was a good bit of banter i did not see any coin throwing. Just hope no one got hurt if it's true. (and it's from a good source too)

And nice to get on the liberty pitch aswell :D

[MarkR]

Poor game saw Forest beat Luton 1-0 but with the results for Carlisle and Donny now leaves Forest 3 points off 2nd, and Southend only 4 points also. I still don't think Forest have a chance of sneaking 2nd but would be good if it could go down to the final game with a chance of it happening.

With Southend's form at the moment I hope we don't end up with them in the playoffs.

[douglasb]

Will Carlisle bottle it? Have to say I really don't know. We missed a sitter to go 2-1 up at one point and I think we would've held onto it. Automatic red card means we've lost one of most consistent defenders for the final two games too.

Playoffs are no good for us. We're too tired as a squad.

[rbullivant]

Forest are looking good somehow, we've hit some form going into the playoffs and may even make automatic.

However you're relying on Forest to win both games (not massively likely) and two teams bottling it. Stranger things have happened!

R

[MarkR]

You obviously do not see them play often rbullivant as I know results are the name of the game but Forest are turning in some shocking performances. Up against any of the playoff teams and all I can see is more heartache. :cry:

[MarkR]

You obviously do not see them play often rbullivant as I know results are the name of the game but Forest are turning in some shocking performances. Up against any of the playoff teams and all I can see is more heartache. :cry:

EDIT: Oh and also Forest are yet to win 3 games on the trot all season. If we beat Hartlepool on Saturday then this will be the first time this season. Not exactly stunning form. Just the results of the teams above us making us look better than we are.
Double Edit : I'm sure I pressed edit last time. :?:

[the thing with no name]

agreed though - Forest have still got a chance and i hope we do make second place, but consistancy is a real struggle at Forest.
if its playoffs again, I daren't watch after last year :(

[Herbal]

Swansea will now NOT be presented with the league 1 trophy on Saturday due to this Leeds saga.

Totally ****** off now!

The FA and Leeds are both IDIOTS!!!!

[Alan b]

The whole situation is nothing but a farce, there has been plenty of time to sort this out so I can't see any reason why this has had to drag on so long.

If the decision goes for Leeds I can see other clubs taking action as a result which in turn could drag this on for even longer.

[Herbal]

Sorry it's not the FA but The Football League.

I know we are up, but can see a lot of fireworks if this goes Leeds way.

[AndyWilson]

Why? It's not as if we haven't won every one of our 85pts fair and square on the football pitch.

Are other teams claiming they'd have tried harder if they'd thought Leeds might successfully appeal?

[Chef]

I think it`s the football league & the inland revenue you should be blaming, not Leeds. This whole episode should have been sorted months ago.

[cabor]

Its Bournemouth, Luton etc who must be most on tenderhooks, identical cases
re the Inland Revenue CVA scenario.
Hope we get 15 back or nothing and also hope the Swans win the title which they without doubt deserve.

[MarkR]

If Leeds get the full 15 back Carlilse have already said they will appeal or whatever so this could get ridiculous. Depending on what happens in the final 2 games with now Donny, Southend and Forest still near enough to clinch second over Carlisle this could jeopardise the playoffs and everything.
The playoffs are supposed to be Friday 9th and Monday 12th for the 1st leg and the following Thursday and Friday for the 2nd leg but at this rate it will be July!

I'm not sure really how I feel about it all but all I can say is it should have been sorted 1 way or another way before now. I think the big thing here is Leeds signed a document saying they would accept the 15 point deduction.

[rubbafish]

We (Donny) have hit a dreadful run recentley and failing us getting automatic promotion ahead of Carlisle, I hope the table stays as it is I would not want us to face either Forest or, more to the point, Southend who are on fire at the moment!

The whole Leeds situation is just a farce and will hopefully get thrown out just like Sheff Utd/Tevez was.

[TimLeeds]

The FA and Leeds are both IDIOTS!!!!

I realise that this subject is boring to many but I've got a number of issues with this kind of stupid, ill-informed comment. Firstly as others have stated, it is the Football League and HMRC who have caused this issue not the FA. To also blame Leeds for this dragging on is frankly ridiculous on so many counts.

1. Leeds had a CVA which was appealed by HMRC just 1 hour before the deadline for approval. Therefore, KPMG (the administrator) sold the club outside of a CVA. Incidently, this sale gives creditors a better return than the original CVA would have done!

2. HMRC then said they would take court action challenging this sale. One day before the high court appearance they dropped the case.

3. Yes we signed a "we will not sue the FL if they give us our Golden Share albeit with a 15 points penalty" document. However, in my understanding, this document has no standing in law as it was signed under duress. Don't forget all this was going on with less than 2 weeks until the start of the season. Basically, Leeds were told sign this or you're out of business.

4. Football League chairmen, our direct competitors, then voted to impose a 15 point penalty on us for not coming out of administration with a CVA. Is this fair? I think not. I'll also bet that Luton and Bournemouth regret their decision now! It also transpires that some Chairmen may not have even realised just what they were voting for, see link.

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/leeds-united-columnists/HAY-Points-challenge-right-.3996683.jp

5. Leeds immediately appealed to the FL requesting an INDEPENDANT hearing but they refused to change their stance. In Dec/Jan we asked the FA to intervene but they buried their heads in the sand and claimed they the could not involve themselves in FL matters. It was only when we threatened to take the FL to the High Court that they agreed to arbitration. They also delayed any chance to resolve this issue sooner rather than later by waiting until the last day before replying to Leeds writ.

I hope this educates those who are not fully up to speed with the FACTS. I fully sympathise with those at the top of the table who this affects and have commented as such in the Leeds thread. However the issue remains that if the FL had grasped the nettle when Leeds first appealed then this would have long since been done and dusted. The FL's inefficiency is further compounded by the fact that their own rules state that any points under appeal should not be deducted until the appeal has been heard. Therefore, the table should read Swansea 86 pts, Leeds 85 pts etc etc. This would mean that the only team adversely affected by the possibility of a deduction would be Leeds. All others would simply move up the table if the deduction was upheld (I'm sure there would be no complaints from them unlike the present situation where they might move downwards if we are found innocent).

I have no liking for Bates but, for all those claiming foul, do you really think that HMRC would have dropped their legal case if he had done anything illegal. I also believe that any fans would feel aggrieved if their club had been treated in this manner and would expect their Chairman to appeal as Leeds have done.

All I, and I suspect all other Leeds fans want is clarity. If the panel rule against us and explain why then I will have no complaints.

Anyway, besides all this, if Yeovil beat Leeds on Friday then Swansea could win the title irrespective of whether or not Leeds get their points back. So you may get your trophy on Saturday anyway. Congratulations on your promotion (possible Championship).

[Fat Bloke]

Sorry, the fault of the whole situation lies at the door of Leeds for overspending in the first place.

[AndyWilson]

There's a 15pt penalty for overspending?

Leeds have already paid the penalty for that.

2006 Championship Playoff Finalists

Sold most of team
Performed abysmally
Went into receivership
10 point penalty (yes I know it was more or less academic by then - but 100% within FL rules)

2007 demoted to League 1

[TimLeeds]

Sorry, the fault of the whole situation lies at the door of Leeds for overspending in the first place.

I think you're fishing but, what the heck, I'll bite.

As AndyWilson says, we have been penalised for that already. Selling all our players, two relegations, administration and 10 points properly deducted. It is the further 15 points that we have issue with.

I'm amazed how some blinkered people see the name Leeds and don't care about anything else. Most "proper" fans can see that this issue has the potential to devastate lower league football. What about Luton, Bournemouth, Rotherham and Halifax? Do you think that they should also be penalised a further 15 points? Leeds were lucky in that they have a large enough fanbase to recover. Some smaller clubs might not.

IMO the Football League have two critical decisions to make over these next few months. The first should be to scrap this stupid 15 point penalty because it is obvious that HMRC will not let any club gain a CVA that gives them less money than football creditors. The second is to look at funding through the league. I realise that there is little the Football League can do about all the money in the Premiership but they can change the way they allocate their own cash. The link below details how the Football League are allocating both a £100M payment from the Premier League and also their own TV money. 80% of the money goes to Championship clubs. League 1 gets 12% and League 2 gets the remaining 8%. Now I accept that the bigger clubs generate more revenue but to give them 80% is bonkers. The teams that need the most money get the least!! :doh:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=555048&in_page_id=1951&in_author_id=345

[Fat Bloke]

So if you think I'm wrong, answer one question.

If Leeds/Bates had paid their bills, do you think you would had any points deducted?

You, and I my Leeds, have just tried to pull a sneaky to wipe out £35 Million worth of debt. And you've succeeded in that. It's the people/companies that you've shafted that I fill sorry for.

[AndyWilson]

If they could have paid their bills they wouldn't have gone into administration in the first place.

Maybe the perfectly legal process by which thousands of companies every year go into administration and only pay a percentage of their debts isn't ideal - but it's available to any limited company without any penalties.

[TimLeeds]

So if you think I'm wrong, answer one question.

If Leeds/Bates had paid their bills, do you think you would had any points deducted?

We had 10 points deducted for going into administration. As has been stated before, no-one is arguing against that! Those are the rules and all clubs accept them. The 15 further points is a different matter. You seem to be having difficulty in differentiating between the two.

Leeds, have just tried to pull a sneaky to wipe out £35 Million worth of debt. And you've succeeded in that. It's the people/companies that you've shafted that I fill sorry for.

Leeds went into administration because HMRC served us with a winding-up order. At the same time we were nigh on certainties for relegation. The difference in revenue between Championship and League One football meant that we would be unable to pay our bills. It is illegal for any company to continue trading when it is unable to pay its bills. Leeds had no assets left to sell. I forgot to put in my last post that besides selling all our players we had already sold our ground and training ground in order to try and stave off administration. What else could they have done?

I completely agree that this is unfair on the creditors, but it happens all the time in business and is perfectly legal. IMO any Director found guilty of mismanagement, whether in the outside world or within football should be permanently banned from taking control of another company or club.

I repeat from my earlier post: "I have no liking for Bates but, for all those claiming foul, do you really think that HMRC would have dropped their high court case if he had done anything illegal".

You conveniently failed to answer my question about Luton, Bournemouth et al. Do you think that they (or any other clubs that go into administration in the future) should also be deducted a total of 25 points or does your grievance apply only to Leeds?

[Fat Bloke]

Leeds went into administration because HMRC served us with a winding-up order.

Those horrible people.

You conveniently failed to answer my question about Luton, Bournemouth et al.

Anyone who tries to cheat the system should face the punishment that is set by the powers that be. Bournemouth is an interesting one as a certain Mr Kasner is involved. Think you know all about him.

[TimLeeds]

Anyone who tries to cheat the system should face the punishment that is set by the powers that be.

And therein lies our disagreement. The FL themselves have said Leeds did nothing wrong by going into administration at the end of last season. The 15 points were apparently deducted for not coming out of administration by the FL's preferred method (a CVA). Since HMRC are refusing to allow any clubs to gain a CVA this rule is effectively obsolete. No club (assuming HMRC own enough of their debt) will ever be able to gain a CVA again.

Bournemouth is an interesting one as a certain Mr Kasner is involved. Think you know all about him.

Krasner is an administrator that's all. He was involved on the board of Leeds after Ridsdale left but didn't, as far as I know, have much (if any) money to invest in the club. Judging by some of his comments last year I think he may even have lost money during his involvement so I'm not sure why you seem to be casting aspersions against him.

I won't comment any more on this issue as I do not want to clog up the League One thread with this discussion. All I will say is that I hope Yeovil never go through the same process. All it takes is one numpty in the boardroom to destroy years of hard work. I'm sure your views of "cheating" the system will change then.

[MarkR]

So bringing the thread back onto football matters........

Forest win 3 games on the trot for the 1st time all season and a good job they did as it looks like Carlisle have blown it right at the end. Forest win 1-0 away to Hartlepool with only 6 minutes remaining. Doncaster beat Luton 2-0 which was to be expected especially at home. Carlisle however lose 3-0 to Millwall at the New Den and are now in 4th place in the league.

Leaving the Leeds mess out of this then at the moment 3 clubs could potentially take that 2nd spot which is currently occupied by Doncaster. The final game for them is away to Cheltenham who are going to try as they could be relegated if not. Same with Carlisle playing Bournemouth who could also be relegated. Forest are at home to Yeovil. Hope the same result does not happen like the last time we played Yeovil at home :|

[pompeyfan]

And therein lies our disagreement. The FL themselves have said Leeds did nothing wrong by going into administration at the end of last season. The 15 points were apparently deducted for not coming out of administration by the FL's preferred method (a CVA). Since HMRC are refusing to allow any clubs to gain a CVA this rule is effectively obsolete. No club (assuming HMRC own enough of their debt) will ever be able to gain a CVA again.

At the time though every other club that had been in administration had come out using a CVA as per league rules - Leeds didn't so were punished separately for that.

On the subject of companies legally going into administration to wipe debts - how many are then actually still owned/controlled/repurchased cheap by the people putting them into administration? Thats what looks so iffy - whats to stop other club owners doing the same "oh look we're being relegated anyway, lets take a 10 point hit that won't affect us in the slightest, wipe all our debts and start again with a clean slate"?

[Chef]

At the time though every other club that had been in administration had come out using a CVA as per league rules - Leeds didn't so were punished separately for that.

On the subject of companies legally going into administration to wipe debts - how many are then actually still owned/controlled/repurchased cheap by the people putting them into administration? Thats what looks so iffy - whats to stop other club owners doing the same "oh look we're being relegated anyway, lets take a 10 point hit that won't affect us in the slightest, wipe all our debts and start again with a clean slate"?


You are totally missing the point here. This is not about Leeds Utd but about the extra 15 point deduction for the next season. This will not really effect Leeds Utd as they are (even if you are so blinded to think they are not) a massive club & will overcome this hurdle. This will mostly effect smaller clubs who have gone into administration and cannot sort out a cva before the next season. I genuinly feel worried for clubs like Luton & Bournmouth who do not have the huge fan base like Leeds who will keep the money comming into the club through gate receipts like Leeds do.
If I am being totally selfish as a Leeds fan I would like to see the full 15 points given back or none at all as we are in a play-oof place now & anything less than 15 points changes nothing for us.
I am sure Bounmouth & Luton fans do not want to start the next season with -15 points but if thats how the Leeds situation goes then tats what they can expect next season.

Also if Doncaster, Forest, Carlisle & Southend fans think you have been better than us over this season, please take a reallity checK along with the Swansea fans who are only 1 point in front of us.

[cabor]

At the time though every other club that had been in administration had come out using a CVA as per league rules - Leeds didn't so were punished separately for that.


As has been pointed out time and time again HMRC disputed the CVA and will
dispute every CVA from now on re creditor status, that is the difference even for the financially well run Pompey :lol:

[rbullivant]

Its going to be a good weekend for neutrals as the race for 2nd hots up, I'll be cheering Forest on against Yeovil. Hopefully with nothing to play for Yeovil might have one eye on their holidays, I think Carlisle and Doncaster both have tougher games. In three games next Saturday, one will be promoted and one will be relegated. Exciting stuff!

R

[MarkR]

So just over 4 hours until the whole league is finally sorted out........or will it be. I can see if some points are awarded back and therefore other clubs could be affected then we have not heard the end of it.

[rbullivant]

Well Leeds appeal was thrown out so its game on for Forest on Saturday! Got my ticket already (and also got playoff ticket priority in doing so)!

R

[TimLeeds]

Well Leeds appeal was thrown out so its game on for Forest on Saturday! Got my ticket already (and also got playoff ticket priority in doing so)!

R

It should be an interesting weekend with 3 teams still going for 2nd spot.

Whichever 4 teams finally end up in the play-offs it looks quite evenly balanced. Given Carlisle's recent form I suppose they are the team that most of the play-off teams would want to meet. Donny have been indifferent of late and both Forest and Southend are on a good run as are Leeds.

[MarkR]

I really do not see Forest slipping up tomorrow no matter how dodgy some of the recent perofrmances have been. That just leaves it in the hands of Cheltenham. They have only lost 5 at home and have 1 of the meanest home defences also. Please Cheltenham :help:

[rbullivant]

Well I'm biased but I can see Forest doing it, the League has been close all season with all teams showing they can take points of each other so can't see Cheltenham not getting a result. Fingers crossed!

R

[hannay]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


best day being a forest fan for a long time :)

[sparkrite]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


best day being a forest fan for a long time :)


I'LL SECOND THAT:clap::clap::clap::clap:

[Drysolder]

Get in, and all the sweeter for beating Yeovil. :D

[sleep4ever]

Congrats to Forest

We were losing to a team already relegated, it was like a training match/friendly, and thanks to Leeds winning, they go ahead of us and we get Doncaster...

Was hoping for Carlise, but not to be...always the hard way

[The Bear]

Well done Forest. We look forward to playing you next season.

[Fat Bloke]

Get in, and all the sweeter for beating Yeovil. :D

Awww did the pub team upset you?

Yeovil's season finished 2 weeks ago. Today's game had no bearing on Yeovil's season, only yours.

[AndyWilson]

Well done Forest!

I'd like to have seen a Forest/Leeds playoff final, but I guess beating Donny at Wembly will be satisfying :)

[Drysolder]

Awww did the pub team upset you?

Yeovil's season finished 2 weeks ago. Today's game had no bearing on Yeovil's season, only yours.

Yeah, best of luck for another season in the 3rd Division. :wave:

[MarkR]

What a game and atmosphere. Thanks so much to Cheltenham. The nerves were getting a bit much when Yeovil kept pulling goals back but even a draw would have been ok today.

Special mention and moment of the day though has to go to the Yeovil fans. Just under 600 of them there. Plenty of them hung around to clap the Forest team on a lap of honour etc but best part were most of them stood out the front of their coaches in the carpark clapping the Forest fans as they walked past. Very touching and I for one have never experienced anything like that and would like to thank each and everyone of them. :clap:

Goodbye League 1 thread it's been emotional

[sleep4ever]

I'd like to have seen a Forest/Leeds playoff final, but I guess beating Donny at Wembly will be satisfying :)

:suspect:

[thejetsons]

I'm a Leeds fan and I'd like to congratulate Forest on being promoted.

Hope to play you again next season.

[Fat Bloke]

Yeah, best of luck for another season in the 3rd Division. :wave:

After 108 years as non-league club, I think we'll cope with our 4th in League One. You might need to work on your put downs :lol:

[d.boyd1uk]

yeah, well done forest, i bet doncaster and carlisle are gutted, they both done really well.

[the thing with no name]

YEEEESSSSSS

GET IN FOREST!!!!!

Fantastic result

COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:thumbs:

[Mackey]

I still can't quite believe it, fantastic day for us forest fans and what a turn around since the end of march all credit to the lads and the manager today. As a side note the Yeovil fans were great. After the game to stay and clap and then to be friendly and applaud (and not just one or two but most fans on the coaches) make me think theres hope for football yet

[Drysolder]

After 108 years as non-league club, I think we'll cope with our 4th in League One. You might need to work on your put downs :lol:

Pity, and there's so much praise for the Yeovil fans who were at the game, as well. :|

[hannay]

I wanted CC out at end march, but i'll give the guy credit now - well done CC :thumbs:

[loftus]

Have nothing but the utmost respect for Yeovil fans. One of the few positives to come from Colchester being relegated is the chance to go back to Yeovil, whose fans were fantastic on the day we won promotion there.

[Mackey]

I wanted CC out at end march, but i'll give the guy credit now - well done CC :thumbs:

Have to admit I was feeling the same after the performance at Doncaster, I just couldn't see us doing anything at all the rest of the season but he turned it around with 6 wins and a draw since (I think it was) but fair play to CC he did it, but I feel the real hard work starts now to get in the right players for next season in the championship

[d.boyd1uk]

some cracking away days in the championship next season, last time i was at forest it was a terrific atmosphere. TBH i prefer the big away games rather than home games at the liberty.

[Fat Bloke]

Pity, and there's so much praise for the Yeovil fans who were at the game, as well. :|

So why have a dig at Yeovil then?

[hannay]

Have to admit I was feeling the same after the performance at Doncaster, I just couldn't see us doing anything at all the rest of the season but he turned it around with 6 wins and a draw since (I think it was) but fair play to CC he did it, but I feel the real hard work starts now to get in the right players for next season in the championship

I think one of the best things CC has done is his transfer dealings. I'm quite hopeful of him signing a few good players :thumbs: It's his tactics that sometimes leave me a little worried...

[Drysolder]

So why have a dig at Yeovil then?

I wasn't. :?:

Just because you see it as a 'dig', don't presume it was meant to be one.

Still, I'm not getting into some adolescent argument over this, so I'll bail out of this thread.

[Mackey]

I think one of the best things CC has done is his transfer dealings. I'm quite hopeful of him signing a few good players :thumbs: It's his tactics that sometimes leave me a little worried...

I've had the same feelings about him, but next season the majority of teams won't be coming and setting up with 10/11 men behind the ball and playing for a draw hopefully leaving a bit more space for us to counter attack into, some decent additions and we should do ok next season.

[Chef]

Nice to see Gillingham relegated in front of a massive 38,000 crowd at Leeds today.A bit of poetic justice for Paul Scally after his comments on the radio on Thursday. :wave:

[Fat Bloke]

I wasn't. :?:


OK, I'll leave it as well. But I will defend my club when someone has a dig at them, just as I'd expect you to do the same.

[douglasb]

Can't see Carlisle getting things back together again after recent displays, so hoping for an away goal to at least make Leeds sweat a little.

[AndyWilson]

Sweat? Despite our bluster most Leeds fans have learned to expect failure when it hurts most - so a playoff final place is assured if only so we can be cruelly denied promotion at the very last opportunity!

[rbullivant]

Excellent result for Forest!!!!! Yeovil kept us on the edge of our seats by keep getting goals back. First chance we've had to really celebrate in years!

Great response from Yeovil fans as well, they probably remember the few thousand Forest fans who stayed behind after the playoff semi to applaud their team!

R

[campdave]

Nice to see Gillingham relegated in front of a massive 38,000 crowd at Leeds today.A bit of poetic justice for Paul Scally after his comments on the radio on Thursday. :wave:

Yes, it's his fault Leeds had 15 points deducted :doh:

[Fat Bloke]

Ken Bates shares that opinion. Think there's something in the water up there!

[Chef]

Yes, it's his fault Leeds had 15 points deducted :doh:
You`re totally missing the point here. I would normally not give a chuff about Gillingham, however, their chairman has been very outspoken about the 15 point deduction at Leeds and in doing so has made me feel great joy at the relegation of his team.
In the same instance, Nottingham Forest voted for us to have the points given back and I am very pleased that they have leapfrogged Doncaster to gain automatic promotion.
I think this is a good example of Good & bad karma :thumbs:

[The Bear]

Hardly. Sour grapes from Leeds fans and Ken Bates IMO.

Paul Scally was asked and said that he was one of the chairman that supported the decision. There were 50 or 60 other chairman who voted to support it as well so I guess you hate all those clubs as well now do you?

[Herbal]

Well Done Forrest even though i wanted Doncaster to go up.

Cannot see Leeds losing to Carlise as they have hit really bad form. I do fancy Southend to beat Doncaster and I go for a 2-1 Southend victory at Wembley.

[TimLeeds]

Been away for a few days so am behind the curve but just wanted to say well done to Swansea and Forest.

Here's to a cracking play-off. Personally I don't think there's much between the four teams and both of the semi's could go either way.

[MarkR]

I actually rated Carlisle the best out of the the 4 when they visited Forest during the season, however I think they have blown it physically and mentally.
Leeds and Southend final I think with it hard to call either way.

[Fat Bloke]

More interesting reading from the Football League.

http://www.football-league.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10794~1307246,00.html

[cabor]

More interesting reading from the Football League.

http://www.football-league.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10794~1307246,00.html

Good news for Bournemouth, Luton & co who will not have to face a kangeroo court of league chairmen but still very unclear about the 15 pt deduction re the revenue opposing all CVAs not giving them equal footing with football creditors.

[sleep4ever]

Donny have to be the favourites after last nights match to get to the play off final

I thought they were one of the best sides to come to Roots Hall earlier in the season, and last night emphasised that

Our keeper pulled off a couple of good saves, especially the one on one with the Donny striker. Their passing and attacking play was awesome at times, and in the second half we resorted to just punting it upfield to our two strikers.

With the exception of Tommy Black all of our players played well.

Not the most exciting match for neutrals, but nervy stuff for Southend fans

[sleep4ever]

And its Leeds in the final...

C'Mon You Blues Tommorow night

[Fat Bloke]

Donny 3-0 up at half time.

[Alan b]

Crap, I forgot about this and there are only five minutes left. So a Yorkshire final then seeing as they are now 5-0 up.

[SPB]

The fightback starts 5-1.

So Southend get the reward of a definite trip to the County Ground next season, Doncaster the consolation prize of a trip to Wembley.

[sleep4ever]

The fightback starts 5-1.

So Southend get the reward of a definite trip to the County Ground next season, Doncaster the consolation prize of a trip to Wembley.

Yup

Well done Doncaster, we were totally outplayed tonight

Our fans were excellent

[loftus]

Great performance from Doncaster - if they play like that at Wembley they'll give Leeds a run for their money.

But, as a Colchester supporter, a word for the the Southend fans - you were class tonight :notworthy

[sleep4ever]

But, as a Colchester supporter, a word for the the Southend fans - you were class tonight :notworthy

Yup, see you next season ;)

[loftus]

Yup, see you next season ;)

Yeah - this relegation lark ain't all bad :thumbs:

[AndyWilson]

Amazing game by Doncaster..

See you at Wembley!

[Fat Bloke]

Congrats to Donny. Glad you won.

Although, we usually take points off you so it's not all good. :lol:

[d.boyd1uk]

Well done Doncaster, I was praying that you would beat Leeds, another bonus, dick head andy robinson has signed for leeds hoping for 12k a week and gets 6k now. :D

[SPB]

dick head andy robinson has signed for leeds hoping for 12k a week and gets 6k now. :D

The poor thing. How will he cope living on the breadline.

I can't believe anyone would pay 300K a year to a division 3 striker. We'll have to make sure he looks like a 30K a year striker when he comes to the CG :)

Puts our own task of trying to get promoted into perspective when teams are paying silly money like that. Or perhaps I'm just out of touch on 3rd division wages.

[The Bear]

£6k p/w is crazy money for a L1 player.

Most if not all of the Wolves first team are now on sensible wages around the £6-8k mark.

[Herbal]

Also glad Doncaster won, they played the far better football in the 3 games of the playoffs and outplayed Leeds at times yesterday with really quick one touch football.

Also glad Andy Greedyson got what he deserved. Our Manager Roberto told him that he has 10 days to decide what to do, the deadline was Friday gone 2 days before the playoff final as there was a lot of interest from Leeds.

Then Robinson came out last Tuesday saying he would tell the club if he will sign or not by Monday (today) so he could choose what team to play for. Swansea if Leeds loose or Leeds if they win. Then cue the meltdown of our forums :). By Thursday he left us for Leeds as d.boyd said he would be on £12k if they went up or £6k if not. We offered him our biggest ever deal i think around the £6k mark.

But i'm glad he has gone as he did this to us last season aswell when Cardiff came looking. Hopefully Roberto will get a few more bargains in and we have a good season. i have only 3 goals

1) Beat Cardiff at home
2) Beat Cardiff away
3) Finish higher than Cardiff or Top 20 will do.

[Fat Bloke]

"If Your Club Was A Breed Of Dog!"

Brighton - Poodle, everyone thinks they're a bit gay, but they're actually quite hardy and resilient.

Bristol Rovers - A lovable mongrel without a home, wandering the streets. Such a pity too, as could be a good little dog if only it had some where to call home.

Carlisle - St Bernard, likes its isolation on top of cold mountains miles from anywhere. Appears big and strong in its element, but is really just cumbersome and docile outside its home turf.

Cheltenham - Yorkshire terrier, small and a bit unfashionable, but very tough and hardy.

Crewe - Collie, looks beautiful when brushed, but just falls apart when confronted with mud and rain.

Huddersfield - Golden retriver, a nice medium sized dog, but a bit twee and strangely old-fashioned even with its new collar and lead.

Hartlepool - Bull dog, it maybe small and gets out of breath if asked to do too much, but has a big heart and wont budge for anyone.

Leeds United - German sheperd. A very popular dog with a great pedigree, but can suffer from hip and leg problems, which means it's a bit unstable.

Leyton Orient - Jack russell, some might say charming and lively, others small and irratating.

Millwall - Rottweiler, has a bad reputation for being aggressive, but it really depends on how you treat it. Often abused by owners with other adgendas.

Northampton Town - Cocker spaniel, small and sturdy, and loves the water.

Oldham - Old English sheep dog, you don't hear about them as much anymore, but there still around, out on the wind swept hills.

Southend United - Stafford bull terrier, looks chavy, but is really a nice family dog.

Swindon Town - Springer spaniel, has no idea where it wants to go or where it belongs.

Tranmere - Blood hound, a likable dog that is always following a scent, but never quite gets there. Is often over-looked in favour of more 'fashionable' breeds.

Walsall - Basset hound, small and funny looking. Has hidden depths though.

Yeovil - Beagle, lively and engertic, this country dog does look a little out of place in the big towns and cities though.

New breeds:

Leicester City - Labrador, a well known but slightly dull dog.

Scunthorpe United - Wippet, slender but with a northern grittiness.

Colchester United - Chihuahua, tiny and a bit annoying.

Peterborough United - Dalmation, thinks it's posher than it is, when really it's just another dull labrador but with spots.

Hereford United - Border collie, loves the rural life, given its difficult nature as a family pet has done well to simply stay around.

Stockport County - Manchester Terrier, small but firey.

MK Dons - That dog in Fly II, the poor one that gets trapped in the thingy and goes from a nice dog to a horrible mutation...the owner at least had the good grace to put it out of its misery. This one will probably grow into a monster though!

[Herbal]

And Bodde our midfield genius has handed in a transfer request after Derby and Reading came sniffing.

[d.boyd1uk]

And Bodde our midfield genius has handed in a transfer request after Derby and Reading came sniffing.

if paul anderson goes as well we are doomed and we will be back in league 1. :(

[The Bear]

Bodde is someone I'd like Wolves to take a look at signing.

You can have Eastwood and £500k for him happily. There's your £2m valuation right there.

[d.boyd1uk]

He is linked with Sunderland, Middlesboro, Charlton, Wolves, Derby and Everton, my guess is he will choose premiership thats if those clubs above are genuine.

[The Bear]

He has more chance of regular football at a Championship club though.

[cabor]

Is anyone actually staying at Swansea ?

[cabor]

£6k p/w is crazy money for a L1 player.

Most if not all of the Wolves first team are now on sensible wages around the £6-8k mark.

I doubt any of this salary info is remotely accurate, the only high prices under
Bates are tickets :)

[d.boyd1uk]

I doubt any of this salary info is remotely accurate, the only high prices under
Bates are tickets :)

he is on 6k a week, fact, and if leeds got to the championship he would have been on 12k a week, fact.

TBH i didnt rate him, i thought he was lazy.

[d.boyd1uk]

Is anyone actually staying at Swansea ?

possibly signing on loan for 12 months Espanyol midfielder Jordi Gomez, he will cover for the loss of bodde. although its not confirmed just in talks at the moment.
Mark Gower is linked with us and so is striker Gorka Pintado.

[Herbal]

he is on 6k a week, fact, and if leeds got to the championship he would have been on 12k a week, fact.

TBH i didnt rate him, i thought he was lazy.

Are you his agent ;)

[Herbal]

possibly signing on loan for 12 months Espanyol midfielder Jordi Gomez, he will cover for the loss of bodde. although its not confirmed just in talks at the moment.
Mark Gower is linked with us and so is striker Gorka Pintado.


And we the Arsenal of the Championship. Hopefully Roberto will bring in a few class players this summer like he did last year.

Anderson will make his mind up (or liverpool) by the end of the week.

[campdave]

he is on 6k a week, fact, and if leeds got to the championship he would have been on 12k a week, fact.

TBH i didnt rate him, i thought he was lazy.

Must be true then , with the wealth of evidence you've provided :|

[d.boyd1uk]

Must be true then , with the wealth of evidence you've provided :|

cant find evidence :thumbs:
he was offered 6k a week to play for swansea as it was on the swans messageboards and some of the guys on there are pretty good with info.

[SPB]

d.boyd1uk, any opinion on Kevin Amankwaah? Looks like we are after him as he is out of contract, presumably he didn't fit in at Swansea ( isn't championship standard)?

[d.boyd1uk]

d.boyd1uk, any opinion on Kevin Amankwaah? Looks like we are after him as he is out of contract, presumably he didn't fit in at Swansea ( isn't championship standard)?

Havent seen much of himTBH, go to planet swans and ask them and they will pay for you to take him away, as they really dont rate him.
He cost us 200k (i think) so he must be ok. Kenny Jackett bought him, he hasnt played at all under martinez.

[SPB]

go to planet swans and ask them

Thanks, already a thread there and they don't seem to be crying too much!

He cost us 200k (i think) so he must be ok.

Nice theory. But I've already experienced enough over priced flops to know it's not always true!

Like all signings, I'll make my own mind up if he comes!

[Herbal]

I would pay the bus travel for him to go. TBH if he was any good Martinez would have played him when we had a few injuries at the back this season. Instead he played a CM at RB. I don't think he even makes the bench.

Just because he cost us £200k does not make him any good, don't forget Jackett bought him aswell as many other bad players (Abbott, Craney, Way).

No doubt it would be a free transfer as he has gotta be on a tidy wage so they would want to just get rid of him.

And i think he still has a year left on his contract as the master Jackett gave him a 3 yr deal.

Career History:

Season 2007 - 08

Competition Apps

FA Cup 1 (0) 0 0 0
League 0
League Cup 0
JPT 0

*Was not injured during the season

Swansea City 2006 - 07
League 23 (6) 0
FA Cup 2 (1) 0
League Cup 1 (0) 0

Roberto took over in Feb 07

[sleep4ever]

Swansea sign Mark Gower

And we've signed Paul Furlong