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richdmx
05-06-2007, 09:32
Ok guys in and voting time is here.

Heres your options for this season.

A League 1 has Elite teams, Championship has good teams, Prem has average teams. A cup comp will be run along side this.

B Simular to the above but its randomised so Prem could get the elite etc, if this is voted for then no cup comp will be run

C Keep everything the same as it is but vote for what kind of teams you want to use for example C - Elite Clubs

D Have select countries per league eg Premiership gets England, League 1 Spain etc....we would have to boot the elites out as Tequila could get Barca and I could get Getafe.

E Everyone has the same team - that teams is TBA.

bigjonnyauk
05-06-2007, 09:58
me and the jonnys are in rich


and we all vote for D

chopperwilson
05-06-2007, 10:04
Count me in, I like the idea of E

belly
05-06-2007, 10:18
i'm in and like the sound of E, with A coming in 2nd. (aaaaah the old days....) and D - didnt notice that was 1 country per div

john316
05-06-2007, 10:33
Option D for me - E sounds ghastly :gag:

bigjonnyauk
05-06-2007, 10:51
Option D for me - E sounds ghastly :gag:


i know e maybe is not to your liking john but i thought you would like the idea as it all boils down to skill and tactics

using that advanced pro evo brain of yours to work out the best styles for players and a formation


this will be a true player v player none of this silly adriano shoots from 500 miles and scores both teams will have the exact same teams with no advantage


the only advantage you will gain is that of your sheer skill and tactical judgement to overcome your opponent



didnt think you would be one to bottle that kind of challenge :eek:

and at least we can say we were beaten by our opponent and not some wonder konami goal by one of seabass love children





what i would say is if e does win then we dont use the top clubs for the team chosen maybe one that has a good mix of players we can work with and no reliability on one star man

john316
05-06-2007, 10:59
It would just bore the crap out of me - the same players and names all the time would just mentally cripple me and I'd be relegated due to mental fatigue. It is bad enough playing the same team in a couple of preseason games, never mind preseason + 20 odd league games :gag:

unrealnils
05-06-2007, 11:10
I'd like to drop out of season 6 please Rich thanks for all the hard work but need a break from pro evo and work starts back up in a few weeks and things are gonna be busy.
Plus im gonna me moving locations again so who knows about net.


Wanna say thanks to all the lads, you and bolch for organising the whole thing and i'll be back in season 7 :clap:
cheers :wave:

Art Vanderlay
05-06-2007, 11:23
D please - I like the retro vibe of it ;)

Bolch
05-06-2007, 11:23
<s>I want back in :help:

A or D please. If A is chosen I don't mind being in the bottom league but being given a none elite team as each time I start in the bottom I tend to get to the Prem pretty quickly (not bragging, thats just how it is).</s>

Bapapapa
05-06-2007, 11:52
And when you do reach the prem you can't handle the pressure and bail out.. :p

A please Bob..

Hawaiian Floyd
05-06-2007, 12:14
A for me

Bolch
05-06-2007, 12:16
I enjoy PES up until the prem, then the dirty tackles and cutbacks come out :(

It's bad enough putting up with the ***** shooting but throw them in and it gets very frustrating very quickly.

In fact, I'm winding myself up thinking about it. Scrap that Rich, I'm sitting out again.

john316
05-06-2007, 12:23
Start in League 1 then?

Bolch
05-06-2007, 12:26
I'd of expected to of started out in L1 anyway, but I think I need a bigger break from competitive play.

john316
05-06-2007, 12:54
I think a go at the Doubles League would be more your doing at the moment Bolchy - would be very entertaining if we can kick that off sooner rather than later :D

LouBarlow
05-06-2007, 13:14
A for me.

E sounds utterly crap - shame on you Rich.

Bolch
05-06-2007, 13:22
I think a go at the Doubles League would be more your doing at the moment Bolchy - would be very entertaining if we can kick that off sooner rather than later :D

Doubles sounds like fun, but working 2 jobs at the moment so chances of me being free at the same time as 3 others are slim :(

8:30am until 10:30pm yesterday breaking only for lunch and tea :eek:

Bapapapa
05-06-2007, 13:32
I enjoy PES up until the prem, then the dirty tackles and cutbacks come out :(

It's bad enough putting up with the ***** shooting but throw them in and it gets very frustrating very quickly.

In fact, I'm winding myself up thinking about it. Scrap that Rich, I'm sitting out again.
wtf?

:lol:

bigjonnyauk
05-06-2007, 14:09
A for me.

E sounds utterly crap - shame on you Rich.


well i gathered you 2 would not vote e

but lets remember this is a majority vote ;)

john316
05-06-2007, 14:22
Doubles sounds like fun, but working 2 jobs at the moment so chances of me being free at the same time as 3 others are slim :(

8:30am until 10:30pm yesterday breaking only for lunch and tea :eek:

:nuts: - rather you than me!

stylez
05-06-2007, 15:55
A for me!

Matt.Wild
05-06-2007, 16:35
In and whatever setup everyone wants. I'm crap so i'll be crap with either good teams or bad teams :D:lol:

Br00n
05-06-2007, 16:39
me and weebroon are in.

E or D for me.

D for the boy

steviep922
05-06-2007, 16:47
I'm provisionally in with a vote for A.

I say provisionally, because if E wins, i'd probably withdraw. I'd get no enjoyment from playing the same team over & over again.

And it wouldn't show who the best player is because

a) Everybody would have to be in one big league. Who's to say a league 1 player couldn't beat the top premiership players if all things were equal.

and

b) Player condition would have to be set to normal, which would make everything even more tedious.

And lets face it, we already know who the best players are. Everybody playing with the same team is not going to prove anything. The cream will also rise to the top.

LouBarlow
05-06-2007, 17:26
I say provisionally, because if E wins, i'd probably withdraw. I'd get no enjoyment from playing the same team over & over again.


Yeah I definitely agree.

Part of the fun for me, is playing different teams, different players, and learning the best way of countering their star players etc - playing the same team every time would just be deathly dull.

rawowl
05-06-2007, 17:51
B for me.

Professor Abronsius
05-06-2007, 17:56
Am thinking about it... :D

When is the cut off/deadline for signups... ?

Cheers. :)

Ono
05-06-2007, 21:15
I'm in.

Option D

pjg
05-06-2007, 22:08
I will go for D as I suggested it on the other thread but wouldn't mind A either.

E sounds very boring :lol:

loates123
05-06-2007, 22:43
e

brendonw
06-06-2007, 05:57
A pls

:)

bread
06-06-2007, 08:12
I'm in. Cheers.

Option D

LouBarlow
06-06-2007, 13:10
My brothers Monty Barlow and Barry Barlow want to play next season Rich, so that's a total of 3 votes for A from the Barlows

john316
06-06-2007, 13:14
No sign of Ken?

LouBarlow
06-06-2007, 13:19
You think my mum would call one of her kids that? :oh-hum:

MrSpoons
06-06-2007, 14:21
count me in for this one - just got it on the PC and hooked up to my telly. Option A please :)

Bolch
06-06-2007, 14:46
If A gets chosen can I just play the cup competition?

If so A :D

john316
06-06-2007, 14:54
You big wussy part timer :oh-hum:

unrealnils
06-06-2007, 15:09
No sign of Ken?

you mean gary :n0rty:

LouBarlow
06-06-2007, 15:10
Take that and party

Ono
06-06-2007, 19:08
My brothers Monty Barlow and Barry Barlow want to play next season Rich, so that's a total of 3 votes for A from the Barlows

YOu serious?

My sister Yoko, brother Shinji and cousin B want in too.

They all vote whatever I voted.

HORNSTEVE9
07-06-2007, 23:12
right im not entering but jnr would like to please and he say A would be nice
hes pro evo tag is azzer13

Koba the Dread
07-06-2007, 23:12
Id like E please. This will truly sort the creme from the crap. I've beaten loads of so called Premiership players yet they are in the Prem and Im in league one. The leagues are a lie! :mad:

Its about time there was some real equality in the picking of teams, this way no one can complain that they got the worst team.

I would also like a cup competition to run alongside this too and give the prem players the crap teams and the crap players the best teams.

Koba the Dread
07-06-2007, 23:13
right im not entering but jnr would like to please and he say a would be nice


Why not? Do you think you might struggle? ;)

Ono
08-06-2007, 06:50
Nice to have JNR back but I agree, would have liked Daddy back too.

Not ******* though, he promised :D

belly
08-06-2007, 07:41
Not ******* though, he promised :D

strange that, i was only thinking yesterday how much i missed *******'s rantings on these pages.....

john316
08-06-2007, 08:13
A bit close this vote for my liking now - I'm prepared to switch my vote to stop Option E winning :D

Bolch
08-06-2007, 09:10
I've beaten loads of so called Premiership players yet they are in the Prem and Im in league one. The leagues are a lie! :mad:

I would also like a cup competition to run alongside this too and give the prem players the crap teams and the crap players the best teams.

So you want a crap team :thinking: :p

E and A are neck and neck at the moment with d being 2 votes behind.

Having said that Jonny said he and his lads may be dropping out, does that make "their" 3 votes for E invalid :D Also 2 players have said their walking if E gets chosen. That equals instant A to me :D

richdmx
08-06-2007, 09:15
The final choice is mine anyhow :p

Reason i do this is too see what kinda leagues you want:D

LouBarlow
08-06-2007, 09:21
Also 2 players have said their walking if E gets chosen. That equals instant A to me :D

Woah I'm not walking - was agreeing with Stevie's point rather than agreeing to drop-out :p

Bolch
08-06-2007, 09:21
The final choice is mine anyhow :p

Sets Bigjonny to 'ignore' before the revenge of the asterixs starts :p

john316
08-06-2007, 09:30
I've beaten loads of so called Premiership players yet they are in the Prem and Im in league one

Which Premier Leaguer lost to you? :lol:

brendonw
08-06-2007, 09:30
:lol:

LouBarlow
08-06-2007, 09:34
He must have been drunk or getting blown at the time surely?

richdmx
08-06-2007, 09:40
I think she means shes beaten Bread thats all

john316
08-06-2007, 10:31
I know she has beaten Baps but lets face it, he's a 2nd rater :oh-hum:

Ono
08-06-2007, 12:41
I think she means shes beaten Bread thats all

:thumbs: But they are mates and he was being kind :D

steviep922
08-06-2007, 14:01
Woah I'm not walking - was agreeing with Stevie's point rather than agreeing to drop-out :p

Seeing as my xbox went tits up last night, I think i'll just have to grin & bear it if E wins. I need to get my pro evo fix from somewhere.

bigjonnyauk
08-06-2007, 14:16
me and the lads are going to stay

choose what option you like

but i have to end on this note


what is the ******* point in making a thread asking people to vote what they want when the usual gang make the decision for you rich if they dont like it then they say they will leave and not play

at the end of the day that is their choice let them drop out its never mattered before with other players


this is about trying to give people what they want in a league with nearly 40 players not to satisfy just a couple


the votes quite clearly show that their are people who like my idea of option e

but i get the feeling even if this option wins then it wont be chosen

which i have to say is a very sad affair

john316
08-06-2007, 14:26
I'll fully accept the highest voted option and I think Rich will as well. But it certainly won't be a season I'll be looking forward to with relish.

Bolch
08-06-2007, 15:19
this is about trying to give people what they want in a league with nearly 40 players not to satisfy just a couple

Your right, but it's an impossible task. You're never going to satisfy everyone.

The difference is from reading the thread a few people genuninly hate the idea of E. As oppose to just not wanting it for their choice.

E has never turned up as an option before, surely it's not a coincidence this is the first time people have considered walking if a certain option was voted for?

bigjonnyauk
08-06-2007, 15:37
Your right, but it's an impossible task. You're never going to satisfy everyone.

agree with you there 100 per cent

The difference is from reading the thread a few people genuninly hate the idea of E. As oppose to just not wanting it for their choice.

this is true but its only a couple we have had people drop out in the past for reasons unknown also a few have dropped out because they were fed up of getting **** teams

E has never turned up as an option before, surely it's not a coincidence this is the first time people have considered walking if a certain option was voted for?

like i said its only a couple and 1 has said he will stick it out now

this also gives me the impression with the amount of votes cast that some people are just genuinly fed up of playing mismatched games and doing poor cuz their team is crap

no matter what your skill (tequilla exempt:lol:) if you have a crap team then it sucks when you are losing to players you know you can beat

im not being bigheaded or trying to belittle other players but i have held my own well since pes6 in the top division and this time i have been given a poor team in relation to others and now find myself relegated lol ffs

yes i know germany are 8th in your table but on the pitch they are worse than that


lets look at it a bit more closey

1 your team is likely to have 20 odd players so both teams are not going to be exact

2. it will be nice and easy for rich to sort out

3. players will feel like they are playing against other players in a true game not trying their heart out for a spawny seabass love child goal from adriano who has beaten 15 men had a drink sat down and rested and still not been tackled to come along and score in the 89th minute lol



if its the fact that playing the same teams over and over every game then maybe a comprimise could be made


if its 12 per league then use just 3 very evenly matched teams then it varies it a little


i will go with whatever but i was just looking at the bigger picture thats all and looking out for guys that are like me and would like to actually pits my wits on an even basis with anohter player for a change

Bolch
08-06-2007, 15:51
In the case of 3 surely that's why we hardly ever play with the elite teams? Until a bunch of people get fed up, say they want elite teams, then moan because Adriano's just walked through their defence. If it was up to me we'd never play with elite teams so wouldn't have that problem. Or at the very least do option A so in cup competitions it evens it out amongst players.

I'd say option D is an excellent alternative to option E and imo would be far more entertaining. You'll remove the elite element, every team would be different, every team would be on a similar level. I'd say the average English team would also be stronger than the average Dutch team, so based on that Rich could even distribute the league to countries so that lower divisions have the stronger selection so that a cup would still provide some balance between the Prem players and the League 1 players.

Ultimatly whatever happens I'd love to see a cup comp with the Prem players getting worse teams and the League 1 players getting the best teams. This would work best if the same teams were used for the league games as it then saves tailoring your game to 2 different teams for the same season. But it doesn't matter to me anyway as I'm not entering the league this season :p

no matter what your skill (tequilla exempt:lol:) if you have a crap team then it sucks when you are losing to players you know you can beat

That's still going to happen though even if you have matching teams. All it takes is a 2 yard shot being blasted wide or your defender walking in an own goal which we all know happens far more often in PES than in real life. Matching teams won't solve anything in terms of final results, all it will do is give a greater accuracy to the possesion/shots statistics which is hardly a method for ranking a players ability. IIRC I took T to the cleaners shot's wise in our last Prem games yet I lost both matches. Bottomline is I don't think you'll ever take the 'Con-ami' element out of the game, next best thing is to keep it fun.

Which should be the reason why we're here afterall

bigjonnyauk
08-06-2007, 16:20
YEAH SEE YOUR POINT

have had a word with the jonnys and they think d would be a decent choice as the top teams will be gone and also we can remove the crap ones aswell



have changed our 3 choices to d

HORNSTEVE9
08-06-2007, 16:25
as ono wants me to comeback il shall enter if thats ok:D

Bolch
08-06-2007, 17:12
YEAH SEE YOUR POINT

have had a word with the jonnys and they think d would be a decent choice as the top teams will be gone and also we can remove the crap ones aswell

have changed our 3 choices to d

Got loads of sand here if any Arabs need any :D

Teasy
08-06-2007, 17:20
For the last couple of weeks I'd been considering not playing next season. I felt totally stale and just wasn't having fun with PES6 anymore (even when I won a game). But just today I finally tried changing my formation significantly with Spain and now I'm playing well again. Most importantly the game feels fun. Can't lose at the moment either.. just wish I'd changed my formation earlier in the season.

Anyway I'm in next season

As for selecting the league format. Well option E sound like the worst idea's ever. Why not just keep it like it is? If not then either A, C or D sound fine.

stav451
08-06-2007, 17:32
Rich I would like to play this season as always but am on holiday from 27th June till the 7th July and am concerned I wont hit deadlines.
Not sure of the timescales for next season.
Would be happy to enter and choose option A but if I miss deadlines or not finish due to hol I wouldnt want to be chucked or anything.
Dont mind either way with this one, if you think I will hit dealines then im in and if not then happy to sit out for a season. Your call:thumbs:

LouBarlow
08-06-2007, 17:43
FFS I DIDN'T SAY I WAS DROPPING OUT.

I vote for E and make everyone use the ****test team in the ******* game.

Come back ******* - all is forgiven.

bigjonnyauk
08-06-2007, 18:43
FFS I DIDN'T SAY I WAS DROPPING OUT.

I vote for E and make everyone use the ****test team in the ******* game.

Come back ******* - all is forgiven.


LMAO no one mentioned you you big tart it was steviep who said he was dropping out


ill be in touch with ******* lou and mention you really want him to come back

Matt.Wild
08-06-2007, 18:44
Are any of you guys gonna learn that we don't control this game, its Seabass from afar. The teams don't matter :lol:

Thats why my shooting and passing is so bad :lol:

Cockeye
08-06-2007, 18:46
Do I hear my public calling me? ;)

bigjonnyauk
08-06-2007, 18:46
Are any of you guys gonna learn that we don't control this game, its Seabass from afar. The teams don't matter :lol:

Thats why my shooting and passing is so bad :lol:

it never used to be matt in the days when we joined together and rose to the top


u need to get back on the wheel and practice gone are the days of just turning up and expecting to win lol

Koba the Dread
08-06-2007, 19:56
Do I hear my public calling me? ;)


Yes Id love to see you back. Youll be in my division then and il finally get my chance to beat you! The place aint the same without you :thumbs:

rawowl
08-06-2007, 19:58
Do I hear my public calling me? ;)

:help:

unrealnils
08-06-2007, 20:00
jebus how many people are coming back in the season i decide to pull out :suspect::nuts:

LouBarlow
08-06-2007, 20:16
1

daz_75
08-06-2007, 20:22
im in

Ono
08-06-2007, 20:51
Can we get some teams assigned please?

I'm getting bored.

SOUNDSTYLE
08-06-2007, 20:52
I'm in if my PC is fixed in time!

kipp
08-06-2007, 21:18
I will play

I wasnt going to as i dont have as much time as i used to but i would miss not playing :thumbs:

Kipp

Cockeye
09-06-2007, 08:54
Yes Id love to see you back. Youll be in my division then and il finally get my chance to beat you! The place aint the same without you :thumbs:

There are thousands of members on this board, but there is only one cheating, racist, unpleasant person on this forum that I actively hate. And until that person has gone I would never return.

I shall leave it up to you to decide who I might be talking about.

Ono
09-06-2007, 08:58
Erm, OK. :lol:

Think we ought to nip this in the bud now people. Knowing the parties this generally escalates to thermonuclear proportions. :nuts:

bigjonnyauk
09-06-2007, 09:01
Erm, OK. :lol:

Think we ought to nip this in the bud now people. Knowing the parties this generally escalates to thermonuclear proportions. :nuts:


and i thought there might be some kind of g8 peace summit




at least this gives me a breather for a bit to rebuild my sapping resource of granny moaning power orbs

Cockeye
09-06-2007, 09:16
Don't worry - I have made my point. I wont be saying anything else Ono.

crayon
09-06-2007, 10:05
I'm in boys (and gal) - whicever option pleases everybody else pleases me.

LouBarlow
09-06-2007, 12:16
There are thousands of members on this board, but there is only one cheating, racist, unpleasant person on this forum that I actively hate. And until that person has gone I would never return.

I shall leave it up to you to decide who I might be talking about.

Is it Bappatherappa?

Toge
09-06-2007, 12:24
Baps is a racist?

Ono
09-06-2007, 12:29
Come on guys.

No mud slinging.

john316
09-06-2007, 12:29
There are thousands of members on this board, but there is only one cheating, racist, unpleasant person on this forum that I actively hate. And until that person has gone I would never return.

I shall leave it up to you to decide who I might be talking about.

Didn't even know Jim Davidson was a PES player! :thinking:

Bolch
09-06-2007, 12:31
Bappatherappa?

:lol:

maddogsuk
09-06-2007, 12:50
I shall leave it up to you to decide who I might be talking about.Please knock the accusations on the head, if you have no relevant reason to post in the thread don't post. These open ended posts that you have a habbit of doing just lead to further thread derailing and posts from other members guessing who or what company you're talking about.

Cockeye
09-06-2007, 12:53
Edited

Ono
09-06-2007, 12:58
I've left this league alone and not even been in here (because of what it descended to) until my name got mentioned again.

Eh? This league is a a great league. PLayed in the spirit of fun that it has always been. :?:

No matter. I can personally vouch for all the league players as being decent people whom I have never had issues with.



Rich - I want my team FFS!!! :cry:

Cockeye
09-06-2007, 13:15
:sigh:

Ono
09-06-2007, 13:34
Can you edit that Cocknocker. :)

john316
09-06-2007, 13:36
He's not even in the league and is causing chaos again here :lol:

Bolch
09-06-2007, 13:37
And I was staying out of this thread completely until my name is mentioned.

/looks for the post where your name mentioned in any spiteful, hateful, degrading manor. Hope can't find one. Wether Koba's post was sarcastic or not I don't know, but I do know there was no need for your subsequent posts slamming her (pardon the pun).

Can't recall seeing Koba's racist post. I despise racists too, there's only 1 other group of 'people' that in my mind are lower than a racists.

I'd appreciate it if you could remove your post so we could get this thread back on topic.

maddogsuk
09-06-2007, 13:41
OK - *******, I've read the thread and your name was mentioned, big deal, it wasn't an invitation to post and then post again with an accusation about an unknown member. I don't see the need to continue with this on this thread, either dont bother reading these threads or refrain from posting. If you have a complaint contact the Admin \ Mod team.

Now get this thread back on topic.

HORNSTEVE9
09-06-2007, 18:38
Im in lobby 6 if anyone wants a game :D Jr

bigjonnyauk
09-06-2007, 19:16
:suspect:

Koba the Dread
09-06-2007, 23:30
I Love Ono :luv:

In fact I love you all. It is so great to be part of these leagues. Great fun. Great Guys. Great matches! :thumbs:

It is so good to be part of this, it isnt the winning its the taking part :clap:

A great many thanks to Rich and Bolch for providing us with their time and patience. Outstanding! :notworthy

I dont think I could ever leave this set-up. I want to sign up for life :)

Matt.Wild
10-06-2007, 08:44
When will the new teams be up? I cannot get promoted or the like so am happy for the SS games to marked down as 0-0's :)

SOUNDSTYLE
10-06-2007, 10:02
I cannot get promoted or the like so am happy for the SS games to marked down as 0-0's :)

My PC is back up and running now as of yesterday.

Are you available today as the deadline is fast approaching?

phillai
10-06-2007, 11:21
I vote for E!

SOUNDSTYLE
10-06-2007, 11:31
I forgot to vote as I didn't think my PC would be ready in time.

A for me!

If E is chosen then can we make sure that the home and away kits for the team that we use are highly distinguishable.

Tequila
10-06-2007, 15:26
I'm in, A please.

unrealnils
10-06-2007, 15:45
rich we dont do play offs any more do we thus im happy to draw my last 2 games with stav and i go down and stav and middle jonny stay up ??

Let me know cheers


opps wrong thread

HORNSTEVE9
10-06-2007, 18:14
right im not entering but jnr would like to please and he say A would be nice
hes pro evo tag is azzer13

MY MISTAKE JNR TAG IS STILL HORNSTEVE9JNR :doh:

MrSpoons
11-06-2007, 09:12
tried to get some practice in on this last night and had forgotten my password - any ideas on how I get it back?

Da Outsider
11-06-2007, 13:40
In again, go for A