Starcraft 2 Announced! [Archive] - Forums @ The Digital Fix

bluescrn

19-05-2007, 12:12

OMG!!! This has gone gone level with Crysis as my most wanted PC game :eek:

That's what I thought for a few seconds.... but the video reminds me too much of Supreme Commander. Awesome looking video (running nice and smooth). Then about 2 years later when the game finally arrives, it's unplayably slow on my fairly decent PC. And doesn't look all that great

So far in the history of PC gaming, RTS + 3D = Failure

There's been a couple of exceptions, but in the majority of cases, they've either ran far too slow, not let you zoom out to see much of the battle, or just looked pretty poor compared to older 2D RTSs...

But this is Blizzard... and they generally get things right. (Except WC3 multiplayer...)

ryonhilluk

19-05-2007, 13:32

Whens it due?

lettuce

19-05-2007, 13:40

What happened to StarCraft Ghost??

Saber

19-05-2007, 14:13

Ghost was cancelled ages ago.

This is interesting because all the rumours were that the next Starcraft game was going to be an MMO.

Kryten

19-05-2007, 17:13

:clap: About time :thumbs:

Hoskas

20-05-2007, 10:14

This is interesting because all the rumours were that the next Starcraft game was going to be an MMO.

World(s) of Starcraft will be next surely?

Dno

20-05-2007, 17:22

There's a whole load of gameplay trailers up on www.Gametrailers.com now.

msr

21-05-2007, 00:19

Graphically is looks nice but gameplay does not look to have changed much....

GAmbrose

21-05-2007, 01:10

Some might argue thats not a bad thing.

Me - I can't get excited about real time strategy games, I'm awful at multitasking.

Gary A

target

21-05-2007, 06:26

Why would you want the gameplay to change? :o

Developers ruin far too many games by changing things that were perfect in the previous version!

msr

22-05-2007, 00:31

After playing COH would have been nice to see the terran troops use cover etc .... maybe not complete change - enhancements ?!

mushashi

23-05-2007, 19:41

The one thing I would absolutely love Blizzard to improve is the teamplay and co-op, afterall, co-op is the new feature du jour for modern games :)

For example, currently if you and your allies play as Protoss, you can't share pylons or shield batteries.

Ono

23-05-2007, 22:30

I can imagine that the South Koreans are going bonkers at this.

dan13l

24-05-2007, 11:38

The gameplay video on the official site (which has a nice high-res version too) has a developer commentary. He talks about the new units, and how things have changed. The terrain system alone could add a whole new dimension to it (literally).

Kryten

21-02-2008, 09:07

I've been watching some of the newer videos on Gamespot and this looks superb.

Its also up for pre-order at HMV for £29.99 (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=10&url=http://www.hmv.co.uk/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;-1;-1;-1&sku=663655) with a release date penned in as 21-3-2008 :clap: Hopefully that will be it but it seems rather close and some others do not have it up for pre-order.

Play (£29.99) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=2&url=http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/3432909/StarCraft-II/Product.html) have it a week later at March 28. Still close though.

EDIT: Just been pointed out to me that this will actually probably be released in May at Blizzcon!

target

07-05-2009, 11:05

They're now accepting applications for beta testers.
http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=16903634489
You have to already own another Blizzard game. Atm WoW EU doesn't count but will in time for the beta apparently.

And those pre-order dates were way off! lol

Fatbloke

06-08-2009, 09:58

Now ever futher it seems

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2009/08/rts-misery-starcraft-2-officially-pushed-into-2010.ars

nsb

06-08-2009, 10:10

I am totally shocked by that news.

Ono

06-08-2009, 10:14

That's disappointing, but, unsurprising.

COnsidering it has been in beta stage for yonks now they sure are taking their time. :(

Questor

06-08-2009, 11:16

You obviously don't play WoW Ono, we're used to waiting and waiting.......

Bapapapa

06-08-2009, 11:23

South Korea didn't take kindly to that news and descended upon the Blizzard HQ..

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/824/830849611255f5d0f5ao.jpg

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1063/83084960112d91b36a2o.jpg

http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/8060/831709170d1274edde5o.jpg

Ono

06-08-2009, 11:37

:lol:

I heard that Clinton only got those two birds released by promising Kim a leaked beta.

Questor

07-08-2009, 00:51

All together now....

ZERG RUSH!!!! :P

Ono

17-02-2010, 22:37

Beta testing has started. I am monitoring my emails for a key :(

target

06-03-2010, 18:32

Got my key this morning. If you like the original you'll definitely like this. Looks the same (only nicer) and plays the same - even has the same title music! They managed to udpate it without breaking it.

Ono

06-03-2010, 19:50

I got my key too.

Haven't played it yet - may do tonight.

Ono

06-03-2010, 21:07

Hate to say it, but from playing the Beta - I think I prefer Supreme Commander 2 :lol:

I know it's been a while since SC was released but you'd have thought they would hire someone older than 10 years old to do the graphics.

The lack of sensible zoom out is also a downer.

Oh, and the guitar rift music was rubbish too. :nuts:

target

06-03-2010, 21:45

It sucks but since they went 3D it seems all rt's are slightly too zoomed in with no option to zoom out. :( Except obviously SupCom which cheats by replacing any units at range with 2d icons.

Personally I think this is miles better than SupCom2. But then I like SC1 and didn't like SupCom1 so I guess I would think that. :D

ZrByte

08-03-2010, 17:01

Whoever made supcom2 should be shot!! The game itself probably isn't too bad If it had been released with a different name but it's such an insult to call it a sequel to supreme commander. It doesn't build on the original game in any way infact it seems to take away from it :razz:
My first thought through the beta was I hope they change the resource system back, sadly they haven't and with all the other cutbacks the game just feels like a stripped down console port!!

Looking forward to Starcraft 2 though. I was a little concerned with the early screenshots that popped up but I have since seen some gameplay footage on youtube and I have to say I'm impressed.

nsb

14-04-2010, 14:31

Anybody here in the beta? I got a key over the weekend and had my first go last night. First thing to grace my ears after choosing Terran – AWESOME MUSIC.

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:notworthy

ZrByte

14-04-2010, 15:43

Ono

14-04-2010, 19:02

Yeah, I'm on the beat and found it not as good as Supreme Commander 2 :D

I also hate this music. Doesn't sound right for this type of game. Almost country and western :D

Scruffy the Janitor

14-04-2010, 21:52

Thats really good, reminds me of a cross between the firefly theme and the Hancock theme.

The Firecock theme!?!??:thumbs:

ZrByte

15-04-2010, 16:40

Yeah, I'm on the beat and found it not as good as Supreme Commander 2 :D

I also hate this music. Doesn't sound right for this type of game. Almost country and western :D

Did you not play the original? The whole soundtrack to that was like a techno/Country & Western mix.

The Firecock theme!?!??:thumbs:

like it, sounds better than Hanfly anyway :thumbs:

target

15-04-2010, 17:24

I think the music is stunning. :D

Ono

15-04-2010, 19:13

Did you not play the original? The whole soundtrack to that was like a techno/Country & Western mix.

I did but it doesn't mean anything. If it's not right it's not right :D

DB2k

21-04-2010, 14:28

so i hear the Mac beta is out soon. Do I need some form of paying Blizzard account to access it, or can anyone get it?

Damage Inc

21-04-2010, 14:45

As far as I know you need to be registered with Battle.net and own a copy of a game that uses it, proof is done by entering a code given with a game on their website.

I am hoping I will be able to find an old copy of WoW I have so that I can apply.

nsb

21-04-2010, 14:59

You need to create a Battle.net account and then opt in for the beta in the account management.

Fatbloke

21-04-2010, 20:06

Viral Outbreak!!! :lol:

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Damage Inc

29-04-2010, 09:07

the beta is out now for the mac according to this http://kotaku.com/5526879/starcraft-ii-beta-deployed-to-macs

nsb

04-05-2010, 10:44

Releasing July 27 (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/starcraft-ii-gets-july-release-date) :thumbs:

Wooglie

06-05-2010, 10:31

Yep already available to preorder http://www.pricedemon.co.uk/GameDetail/B000RE216U

mikegray

06-05-2010, 12:01

I just got randomly sent a beta code by Game for pre-ordering from them. :)

Ono

06-05-2010, 12:24

I just got another Beta code. 3 in total now :D

I had a pre-order with Game but they cancelled it for me a while back.

Wooglie

06-05-2010, 12:44

Oooh can I have one if you don't want any of the spares?

mikegray

06-05-2010, 14:53

I got sent two but they seem to be identical?

Madm@tt

06-05-2010, 19:08

Just preordered it at Game to get a beta key - two of the guys I live with already have them so I'm über keen to get into it!

Damage Inc

06-05-2010, 19:13

is it possible to cancel after pre-ordering?

RESSEH

07-05-2010, 07:13

any sign of a special edition?

mikegray

07-05-2010, 11:21

any sign of a special edition?

Play.com (http://www.thedvdforums.com/affiliatelink.php?localaffiliateid=2) have one, certainly.

Ono

26-07-2010, 20:04

Out tomorrow.

I'm almost scared to play this online knowing how harddcore it is :D

cluderi

27-07-2010, 02:37

I picked up my collectors edition this morning, just over 4 hours until I can go home and play it. After the disappointment that was the Red Dead Redemption CE this one has some bling to it, loaded up the soundtrack to listen to at work and had a play with the "Jim Raynor USB key dogtags complete with Starcraft 1 and expansions".

RESSEH

27-07-2010, 06:52

im hoping to sell the ingame WoW pet from the CE to help fund it. Just hoping that my Macbook can run it :D

cluderi

27-07-2010, 07:14

im hoping to sell the ingame WoW pet from the CE to help fund it. Just hoping that my Macbook can run it :D

I'm not 100% on this but I seem to recall the pet is tied to the game key which you must enter when you install SC2, it's not a seperate code. It's all tied into your battlenet account, I know I didn't see a pet code in the box. I'm installing it now so should be able to shed more light on that soon.

ShakeyJake

27-07-2010, 07:35

It's been a while since I bought a PC game (other than via Steam), do supermarkets get them in on release day like they do console games?

bluescrn

27-07-2010, 07:56

Out tomorrow.

I'm almost scared to play this online knowing how harddcore it is :D

You'll be OK - the matchmaking system is pretty good, it'll almost ensure a 50% win/loss rate - matching you against worse and worse opponents if needed. But SC2 online really does bring the nerd rage out, especially when you get repeatedly owned by Protoss cheese...

It was pretty tough during the beta, but with the full launch, there'll be millions more noobs to own :)

Not sure whether to stick with Zerg (currently a little underpowered), or switch to Toss. Terran are the current 'flavour of the month' - but they're my least favourite to play

ShakeyJake

27-07-2010, 10:27

It's been a while since I bought a PC game (other than via Steam), do supermarkets get them in on release day like they do console games?

To answer my own question Asda had it on the shelf for £34.97

Now to see how long I can last before rage quitting

cluderi

27-07-2010, 10:27

First impressions of the single player are good, has the amount of humour and presentation I'd expect from a Blizzard product and it runs just fine on my 2 year old PC with a 8800 GT ultra.

My only tiny gripe so far is the lack of a cover mechanic which I'd gotten used to from COH but since we're not dealing with small teams in WWII but instead large groups of space marines with cheeky healing space marines following them around (and large groups of build orders for more space marines queued up) I can forgive that.

Blizzard seem to have outdone themselves with this, I just hope it's worth the 12 year wait for the real Starcraft fans.

Oh and I logged into WOW after playing SC2 and my chars got mailed a Mini Thor the Destroyer pet so it's not code based, he's an active little fella. Loves flying around and firing off some rounds just in case. If I find someone with a zergling I demand a battle!

target

27-07-2010, 17:00

there'll be millions more noobs to own :)

Well... don't look at me! The place I pre-ordered it didn't get enough stock to cover their pre-orders. :( On order elsewhere now but I don't expect to see it until Thursday.

RESSEH

27-07-2010, 18:48

I'm not 100% on this but I seem to recall the pet is tied to the game key which you must enter when you install SC2, it's not a seperate code. It's all tied into your battlenet account, I know I didn't see a pet code in the box. I'm installing it now so should be able to shed more light on that soon.

sadface. NVM! still a good value collectors edition compared to most of the recent ones.

Havent been able to play it though - I missed delivery :(

Madm@tt

28-07-2010, 00:30

Haven't had the chance to give this my full attention yet, but my initial impressions are very good. The first few missions of the campaign set the tone very well and the cut scenes and interactive bits between missions are extremely polished. It seems to provide a good introduction for anyone not used to StarCraft, as well, and there are some single player 'challenges' that test/prepare you for multiplayer, as well as tutorials and tips in the single player campaign. Multiplayer seems slightly faster and more stable than the beta, especially on the Mac version, but otherwise it's much the same (but with lots more people online) and even after a bit of practice with the AI, I still managed to lose my first game. :P

All in all, it's awesome. :D

Saber

28-07-2010, 00:40

DB2k

28-07-2010, 08:08

my iMac is coming up to 3 years old and I don;t think the gfx card is powerful enough to meet the min requirements.

RESSEH

28-07-2010, 09:26

I have a mac that is 3-4 years old, do you think it would run ok? Any place I can do a system specs test?

Edit: I think I can just about scrape in at the minimum requirements, so order placed. Hopefully I will buy a new PC around Christmas so I can play it on that (it is good that mac and windows version is together).

Apparently my Macbook can run it on low - 2.4GHZ, Geforce 9400M integrated card. However thats on low. If I dualboot and run it from windows - Medium should be possible. HAvent tried it yet - but thats what i read on macrumors forum.

RESSEH

28-07-2010, 11:21

target

28-07-2010, 11:31

Also - is it true that the one player mode is effectivly a 1/3 of a game and they are releasing the other parts separatly?

That depends how you look at it. The first game was 10 missions from each side with an expansion brining more levels from each side. SCII has only one sides campaign but 3 times as many levels for that side with the expansions bringing campaigns for the other sides. So basically it's the same size as the original and as long as you don't hate terran it should be a good play. Rumour has it the next couple of releases are going to be a few years off - it's not like they cut a finished game in 3 for profiteering (all the profiteering is coming form the excessive rrp!!)
Incidentally, if anyone hasn't got it yet, you can get it for a touch under £30 using the Tesco 15% voucher.

nsb

28-07-2010, 11:48

it's not like they cut a finished game in 3 for profiteering

Sure ;)

Saber

28-07-2010, 17:19

What? I can't play Protoss? Noooo!

target

28-07-2010, 18:02

You can in multiplayer and skirmish but not the campaign. Though I seem to recall reading there's the odd special mission where you can sample the other sides - but I might have dreamt that!

cluderi

28-07-2010, 19:25

Im a sucker for a decent CE - and its sat on my desk now.... But Im not sure whether to take it back or not. Whats the Memory card like on it?

Im not sure if I want to play it on the lowest settings - and i dont have enough HDD space to dual boot with windows.

Also - is it true that the one player mode is effectivly a 1/3 of a game and they are releasing the other parts separatly?

Ah, buyers remorse. I know that feeling well.. :wave:

From reading other forums the campaign takes about 14 to 15 hours, I'm 3 to 4 hours in and I've just started unlocking the main parts of the game mechanism (hard to explain without spoiling it)

The CE has the artbook, a comic, the soundtrack CD, the game dvd, a making of DVD, the "dogtag" usb key that features the original Starcraft and all the expansions and of course the WOW pet.

I logged into WOW after I'd installed SC2 and fired up the pet in Dal, some guy came running over for a look then broke out Mojo to tell me that his pet was better since it did something when he kissed it. I'm still hoping war breaks out if I meet someone with a zergling pet :dork:

If you're not planning on keeping the CE I'd take a look on ebay etc, I know they all sold out here and people who didn't pre-order are scrambling to find them (I asked when I picked mine up for a spare but even the guy who worked there hadn't managed to find himself one).

alphatyrant

28-07-2010, 19:58

Any chance this'd work on my Acer Laptop? Spec is

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 2 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 2 MB L2 cache
Memory: 3GB DDR2
Graphics Card: nVidia 9300GS 256MB

GAmbrose

28-07-2010, 22:20

Even though I don't like RTS games usually, the hype sucked me in and I bought it (£35 for a PC game!)

Then I remembered my tiny brain can only do one thing at a time, and you need multitasking skilz to play these games...so basically i'm crap at it. It's the one genre i've never been that good at.

Saber

28-07-2010, 23:46

I remember buying the Starcraft Battlechest and then I hid my first dirty magazine in it, my mother would never look in there.

Madm@tt

29-07-2010, 11:01

Any chance this'd work on my Acer Laptop? Spec is

Processor: Intel Core 2 Duo T5800 2 GHz, 800 MHz FSB, 2 MB L2 cache
Memory: 3GB DDR2
Graphics Card: nVidia 9300GS 256MB

You should be able to run it at a reasonable resolution (around 1280x1024) on approx. medium settings and still get a useable frame rate, I'd say go for it.

sharp_circle

29-07-2010, 11:16

ShakeyJake

29-07-2010, 11:58

I'm too scared too even take mine online after the beatings I got playing Starcraft 1 multiplayer a few years back

vast_girth

29-07-2010, 12:27

im undecided whether to buy this or not. I dont like RTS very much, i tried and didn't get on with various C&C's, Dawn of war 2 and a couple of others.

However i did absolutely love warcraft 3. Not sure if it was the swords instead of guns, or what, but i couldn't get enough of it.

I also liked warcraft 2 (one of the first PC games i ever had), but have never played starcraft 1.

So is it worth it or should i just save the money and get Elemental War of Magic in a few weeks time....?

Flyte

29-07-2010, 14:36

I decided to pick it up today, and very much looking forward to installing tonite! Im not a huge RTS fan for the really serious ones, prefer stuff like Age of Empires and C+C which ive been told this is quite similar and I should enjoy!

alphatyrant

29-07-2010, 17:08

I remember buying the Starcraft Battlechest and then I hid my first dirty magazine in it, my mother would never look in there.

Razzle or Escort?

You should be able to run it at a reasonable resolution (around 1280x1024) on approx. medium settings and still get a useable frame rate, I'd say go for it.

Nice one, will try and pick it up tomorrow somewhere, loved the first one despite never trying it online.

Se7en

29-07-2010, 19:12

Does anyone have a guest pass they can send me?
I'm being sucked into the hype and want to know if I should commit or not. :)

GAmbrose

29-07-2010, 22:19

It took me over an hour to Eradicate the infected Zerg structures on the day/night mission thanks to my brain only being able to cope with doing one thing at once.

target

29-07-2010, 22:56

That's not as far off pace as the achievements name suggests. I got said achievement and it took me 45 minutes to do the level.

Vinyl-Pants

31-07-2010, 11:15

I've been eyeing up a new graphics card this week, my integrated GPU is good enough only for Win7 DWM (intentionally) ... I'm a former PC enthusiast and Starcraft addict - I lost so much time to this game it's probably too embarassing to put a figure on it :)

To play this game at the top level, it's ridiculously hard work. You need to hot-key everything, micro-manage your troops - basically simultaneously managing production and units, we're talking 200+ apm (actions per minute) - not very casual or even fun, especially after a 7 years hiatus.

Still tempted though...

Saber

31-07-2010, 20:45

Don't take it so seriously then. There are plenty of normal average players that you can have fun with.

Xenole

31-07-2010, 21:58

Been playing the single player missions and not overly impressed. Seems a bit too C&C: Generals mixed with Tiberium Wars and that C&C game with the aliens.
Got a few nice bits but overly the same sort of "build base, harvest ore, collect gas, build basic things, destroy base" or the occasional "team of 6 go on misssion to do something".
Taking ages to build up any research points. Played around 10 missions and haven't got enough to do anything really (13 Zerg and 7 Protoss).

Few AI problems on the train mission where your diamondbacks tend to stop whilst attacking a moving target in order to let slow enemy units catch up to kill you.

Don't like the way you have to buy an armoury upgrade later in the game to get multiple SCVs to build something; the max of 5 in a queue (unless you use a reactor to get 10); some basic things taking an eternity to build; lack of sentry guns.

Lucid

31-07-2010, 23:23

I have a couple of guest passes going if anyone is interested. Just drop me a PM

Saber

31-07-2010, 23:55

Guest passes for what?

Lucid

01-08-2010, 00:27

Guest passes for what?

7 hours play time or 14 days activation time for Starcraft 2, download included

Fatbloke

01-08-2010, 07:51

I'd appreciate one of those - give me a chance to see if my system will run these games.
I'm a C&C fan (except the last RA!!) so I'm interested to see what all the fuss is about :)

Se7en

01-08-2010, 09:19

I have a couple of guest passes going if anyone is interested. Just drop me a PM

Me, me, me! Just got Bad Company 2, so might have to wait a few days to play this but its still on my hit-list. Sent you a PM.

Lucid

01-08-2010, 09:47

Both gone now

Fatbloke

01-08-2010, 10:45

/Virtual Thanks Added ;)

:notworthy

vast_girth

01-08-2010, 10:59

I gave in and purchased it! First full price game i have bought in years.

I am liking it so far. Again i have a couple of guest passes going spare if anyone is interested (PM me)

Se7en

01-08-2010, 11:13

Thanks Lucid, gonna need it now my Xbox dvd drive just packed in. :mad:

GAmbrose

02-08-2010, 12:57

It's really good actually, even if I am a bit pants at it.

High production values, though I don't see how it cost 100 million dollars to make. All the upgradable/unlockable bits give you some tactical leeway but i'm still pretty shocking when it comes to exploring the map, making sure my base defenses are up to scratch and churning out offensive units. At least one of those things tends to get neglected.

Normal isn't really difficult, though i've restarted a few maps but I imagine Hard and Brutal are really off limits.

Fatbloke

02-08-2010, 13:48

I'm still attempting to download the game atm! 7 Gig in size and it was still going this morning after leaving it on all night. In fact it's still got 2 gig to go when I shut down for the day.
I think I need to tweak my router and put in the P2P forwarding ports as I'm sure it should be faster that that - it's a 20Mb virgin line.

I've updated the graphics card drivers already. Hopefully my ATI 4850 is up to scratch to run it at 1080P.

DB2k

02-08-2010, 13:50

it's annoying there is no demo

GAmbrose

02-08-2010, 13:53

It took me 3 hours to get it and I had 20Mb ADSL.

nsb

02-08-2010, 13:56

You guys that opted for the digital download paid £45 for it? :eek:

target

02-08-2010, 13:59

It didn't cost $100 million to make. That was revealed as a misunderstanding. It was actually World of Warcraft that cost a $100 million.

Fatbloke

02-08-2010, 14:56

You guys that opted for the digital download paid £45 for it? :eek:

Not me, I'm downloading (or attempting to) the guest image, all thanks to Lucid.

Xenole

04-08-2010, 10:55

Well, I finished it last night after playing on brutal for half of it and wasn't impressed. Does mention something about an forthcoming expansion (I think), but I won't be going back to it. As said before, it's fundamentally the same game as C&C: Tiberium something or other.

Would have been much better if you could design your own units like in Warzone 2100 rather than the usual "here's a new unit that can only do so-and-so" every few missions.
Supreme Commander wipes the floor with it stategy wise. If it was a cross between that and Warzone 2100, it would be a lot more challenging - do like having to manage resources across multiple missions rather than starting afresh every single time.

i.e Warzone 2100 - start with small area of map, destroy enemy units and find artifacts. Research artifacts and gain better amour, bullets, missiles etc. Build vehicles using different body types, wheels, tracks, hovercraft etc. Add lasers, machine guns, rockets for anti-air, buildings or vehicles etc. Cost increases depending on the complexity of the unit.
Once you find the artifacts, the map expands a bit and whatever you've got left, you continue with, so if your forces and base were almost decimated, that's what you continue with, not a brand new base etc.

Or in the final missions of the game

Your fleet is decimated. Bits falling all over the ground and you have to save troops from their drop pods which fall over the map in Zerg areas.
Survivors are scattered and don't have much chance, yet a mission later, you've got a base built conveniently next to vospene gas etc and you can build things. This is where what you've got is what you fight with should have been brought into play rather than starting afresh once again.

Once you hit 25 research points, there's nothing left to research and you get 10,000 credits per piece of Zerg / Protoss research you pick up. The research tree doesn't really add anything I've found....or it could just be me?

Seems to be a few bits in there that just don't lead anywhere.

Never sure half the time what unit I'm looking at as well. Some are really small and tend to look too similar to others. Some also tend to wander off a lot whilst others remain static by default.

Gets a bit "Starship Troopers" ish towards the end.

Some of the missions that involve lava flows etc are a little different, but generally its:

Escort civilians from A to B 4-5x.
Start with basic base, defend base for X minutes or capture something.
Group of 6-8 explore somewhere to find something.

Rinse and repeat.

DB2k

04-08-2010, 10:59

are you the biggest RTS nerd on this forum? :)

No offence intended! Some of the things you are describing sound WAY too involved for how I'd want to play a game.

Perhaps the expansion packs wil laddress some of this now they have the base engine working.

target

04-08-2010, 12:11

I think it's awesome. It's RTS at it's most basic but SO polished. From the reviews and sales figures it seems that's what a lot of people were looking for.
If you're looking for something a bit more innovative then this isn't it. If you're looking for classic RTS gaming then this is it as close to perfect as you can get.

Fatbloke

04-08-2010, 12:29

I managed 30 minutes of my trial last night (the download took 75 minutes to install!!!)
It runs fine on my system, thankfully and from what I've seen so far it's closer to C&C than to Supreme Commander (which I didn't get on with) so that's one up in my book.

Will try some more tonight. :)

lettuce

04-08-2010, 17:42

I think we need an RTS game based in the Aliens Universe now, would probably only be able to have a Marine campaign though

internetuser

05-08-2010, 15:15

What type of spec do you need to run this ?

vast_girth

05-08-2010, 15:17

Apperently its quite scalable so should run well on lower spec machines.

Just discovered you can lower the game speed in the options! That makes everything soo much better..

Spooky_uk

05-08-2010, 17:45

Are the achievements in it you can attain the usual 360/live ones you collect or is a blizzard only thing?

Madm@tt

05-08-2010, 18:01

Are the achievements in it you can attain the usual 360/live ones you collect or is a blizzard only thing?

Blizzard only (possibly StarCraft 2 only, I'm not sure) but the same concept. :)

nsb

05-08-2010, 18:16

My sub to WoW isn't active atm, but I wouldn't be surprised if the StarCraft II and WoW achievements totalled together for your Battle.net/Real ID account.

Saber

05-08-2010, 23:17

w00t, just won my first 2v2 game. Just like playing Starcraft 1 really. This was with the practice league thingy, which is a good idea. It is a shame there is no communal chat room before or after though, didn't have the opportunity to have a post game chat with my ally.

Game runs alright for me on low graphics but with textures on medium. It must look pretty sweet at max detail.

LooNaTiK

06-08-2010, 07:34

dont usually play RTS games, but i quite enjoyed the first starcraft so i figured i'd give this a go. im glad i did, it's taking up my evenings quite well! a welcome distraction from big brother.

it's basically a good, old fashioned rts game. which is by no means a complaint.

im at level 15 now on single player, dont think i'll bother with multiplayer though as my interent speed is rubbish, and, basically, im rubbish.

LooN

Saber

06-08-2010, 11:53

Give multiplayer a go! You can start in unranked training matches against other noobs. It is a lot of fun....if you win :)

Fatbloke

07-08-2010, 18:08

Finally managed to get some serious game time on this and I'm liking it a lot. C&C+ I think which is fine by me.

However, before I press the BUY button, does anyone know whether the on-line activation will allow installs onto two machines (using the same BattleNet ID)? I'd probably play the campaign on my desktop, but I'd like the option to do a skirmish on my Laptop when the urge takes me.

Deano

07-08-2010, 19:43

Yeah, you can install on as many machines as you want. Only restriction is you can't be logged in on both at once. It'll even save your campaign progress to your account so you can play on one computer and pick up where you left off on the other.

GAmbrose

07-08-2010, 22:24

Completed it just now.

So errm, How is the Queen of Blades going to stop the Hybrid if she's now human?

Fatbloke

08-08-2010, 07:26

Neil Smalley

09-08-2010, 16:52

Completed it just now.

So errm, How is the Queen of Blades going to stop the Hybrid if she's now human?

I dont think she's fully human as she still has the weird hair at the end. Also, I suspect she knows a lot about how the Zerg work, and who is behind it all

Fatbloke

10-08-2010, 17:43

OK - I too now have a couple of guest passes if anyone wants to try out the game.

7 hours of play or 14 days activation, whichever arrives first.

Reply here and I'll send a PM.

DB2k

10-08-2010, 18:42

yeah I'd like a go if it will let me use it for a go on the mac client, thanks!!!

Fatbloke

10-08-2010, 20:56

PM sent :)

one left.

Scruffy the Janitor

10-08-2010, 21:08

Go on then Fatbloke, I'll take it please if I may - been promising myself I would stay away from another Blizzard built timesink. What can I say. I am weak;)

DB2k

10-08-2010, 21:16

thanks!
Downloading now - there's a mac installer for the 7GB :-/ trial

Looking forward to it

thanks again!

vast_girth

10-08-2010, 21:53

I've still got one pass left if anyone wants its...

Fatbloke

11-08-2010, 05:32

Go on then Fatbloke, I'll take it please if I may - been promising myself I would stay away from another Blizzard built timesink. What can I say. I am weak;)

PM Sent!

GAmbrose

15-08-2010, 11:03

DB2k

16-08-2010, 07:48

I guess you need some detectors. missile turrets are detectors - not sure what else is

GAmbrose

16-08-2010, 08:11

Then I guess I had too many gaps in my defense.

Either way, I completely suck at multiplayer (as expected) so I am running through the campaign on Hard getting all the achivements. Some are particularly difficult but it makes you play the game much more aggressively.

Radyr

16-08-2010, 14:55

I've played 6 practise multiplayer games so far and i've lost every one

The last time I thought my base was ridiculously well defended, but he bought along some cloaked banshee's and I had no way of attacking them.

Turtling is ultimately a losing gambit, particularly as Terran as it takes up supply slots. You should always have some form of Detector as well as otherwise Toss/Terran will wipe you.

GAmbrose

16-08-2010, 15:48

I had already started my attack but whilst i was busy doing that, he snuck in the back and crippled me.

Plus my blokes just stood at the other end of the base and didn't bother attacking the Banshee's even when they were briefly visible. Must set patrol routes or something....

GAmbrose

17-08-2010, 22:20

Is there a hotkey to say, make marines only attack air based enemy units? Thus leaving ground based enemy units to marauders?

Trying to attack a large base with only soldier units (I don't have any air facilities yet) and if I can get the Mauraders to wipe out the Collosuses (Collosi?) whilst the marines take care of all the Protoss air ships then I reckon I can scrape through.

Busby

04-09-2010, 19:32

Surprised how quiet this thread is. I take it not many people on these forums play online?

Hooked on it at the moment. Only played a few levels of the single player but multiplayer is fantastic. When you win of course :)

Ono

04-09-2010, 19:35

I've just got back from hols and haven't installed this yet. Really looking forward to getting started though.

DB2k

04-09-2010, 19:58

I spanked my mate twice online with it, and might have to retire from multiplayer now just in case :)

target

04-09-2010, 21:07

I play team games online at weekends. This thread is probably quiet because everything there is to say about online games of Starcraft was said 12 years ago lol :D

alphatyrant

16-04-2012, 17:08

Ono

16-04-2012, 17:45

JUst play tthe AI first then start South Korean baiting :D

ZrByte

16-04-2012, 17:53

Bit of a resurrection for this, about to start playing this in multiplayer. Anyone got any recommendations on how to start? 1 vs 1 or 2 vs 2? Or better yet, anybody want to kill me lots so I get some practice?

Cheers.

Al

Try the 3v3 multiplay co-op. Its just basically playing against AI but you can learn a lot more from your human allies. I learnt most of my more successful strategies watching other players perfect their own strategies in a good old fashioned comp stomp.
Just start with medium AI and work your way up if you are a total newb, or you will find some people will just quit without giving you a chance.