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JohnMac
26-04-2007, 08:54
Just when you thought you'd be compelled to live out the remainder of your first person shooting life in the colourless world of WWII along comes a much needed breath of fresh air for the excellent Call of Duty series. The game is also being made by the development team who were responsible for the original Call of Duty and Call of Duty 2. The first video isn't far away, it will be showing on ESPN during the NFL Draft this weekend.

Details haven't been confirmed but according to CVG there were rumours about Call of Duty 4 as long ago as March 2006.

"Players, according to the rumour, will operate as part of the S.A.S., US Marines and the US Army, with the action occurring in such locations as the Middle-East, the streets of Eastern Europe, aboard sea vessels in the North Atlantic and London.

Lending credence to this info is the fact that it was accompanied at the time by rumoured details on Call of Duty 3, which turned out to be pretty much spot on."

If true, this sounds interesting and a much needed change of direction for the series.

KRW
26-04-2007, 09:02
Fab. I gave COD3 a miss, so have been looking forward to an announcement for this. Surprised it was so soon. Have they announced platforms? Its not going 'PC only' this time around after the 'console only' COD3? *worried*

JohnMac
26-04-2007, 09:16
I paraphrased or quoted everything in the short article. No word on what platforms Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare is for yet. I suspect PC, 360 and PS3; perhaps wii as well.

There's also another Medal of Honour released in August but I've not read that news story yet.

Drysolder
26-04-2007, 09:19
http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=468692&page=43

Post #850

JohnMac
26-04-2007, 09:54
I missed that, but at least there's now a Call of Duty 4 thread where everyone can discuss the game.

Will the gameplay remain the same or will it be influenced by other modern warfare games? If you do play as part of the S.A.S. during a portion of the game I wonder if this implies some varying types of gameplay, along the lines of Rainbow Six. With the power of modern consoles and fast PCs they can improve the AI to simulate more realistic squad based action and co-ordinated attack strategies without it being a dedicated squad based game. Will we see a repeat of the gameplay of the previous Call of Duty games but in a modern setting or will it have Ghost Recon/Rainbow Six influences? I think the name Modern Warfare implies changes and the use of modern technology not just modern weaponry. Something like Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter without the burdon of worrying about everyone in your squad would be a faster paced game.

cjay
26-04-2007, 10:20
Will we ever get a COD3 on the PC?

fivebyfive
26-04-2007, 10:31
call of duty 3 single player was very below average and not worth bothering about

I.F. call of duty games are much better, I hope they can bring something to the modern combat games the others couldn't

nearlyarockstar
26-04-2007, 12:00
So they will change the models for the guns and the people you shoot at...great, I bet the gameplay will be identical. Is it just me or are FPS games getting really boring now? Seems we've been playing the same game over and over again for years...:thinking:

Goblin
26-04-2007, 12:15
Brother in Arms will probably be a COD beater anyway, so it was a wise decision.

besides there can't be that many new ideas left for the WWII FPS.

KRW
26-04-2007, 12:15
Some FPS are for sure, hence my not bothering with COD3, when there was nothing wrong with COD2. You just have to be wary of them.

I'm hoping, given the title, they'll come up with something different and interesting.

DK_UK
26-04-2007, 12:18
PC fans can expect another dumbed down console port if this is a multi-format title, a bit like COD2.

fivebyfive
26-04-2007, 12:20
So they will change the models for the guns and the people you shoot at...great, I bet the gameplay will be identical. Is it just me or are FPS games getting really boring now? Seems we've been playing the same game over and over again for years...:thinking:

it depends on the FPS, Bioshock looks like it will add a lot to the genre. Its crap like MOH and killzone games that have damaged the genre

fivebyfive
26-04-2007, 12:21
PC fans can expect another dumbed down console port if this is a multi-format title, a bit like COD2.

COD2 was not dumbed down

backtothefuture
26-04-2007, 12:21
was COD 3 never released on PC? If so Why????

KRW
26-04-2007, 12:26
it depends on the FPS, Bioshock looks like it will add a lot to the genre. Its crap like MOH and killzone games that have damaged the genre

Agree with that. Condemned rocked big time, and stretched the genre to the extent that I bet a lot of people dont even consider it a FPS. I too have high hopes for Biohazard.

was COD 3 never released on PC? If so Why????

Cos they whinged about COD2 being a dumbed down console game too much? ;)

nearlyarockstar
26-04-2007, 12:29
it depends on the FPS, Bioshock looks like it will add a lot to the genre. Its crap like MOH and killzone games that have damaged the genre

True, Bioshock will be great...but it's in a different league :thumbs: The last great FPS was Half-Life 2 (including the episodes).

I hope COD4 develops the single player more....COD3 felt like it was made by an A.I computer game creator experiment :lol: I can just imagine this big Deep Thought type computer that the head of the publishing company just told it to "make a sequal to COD2, and make it sell! ".

:eek:

fivebyfive
26-04-2007, 12:39
COD 3 was made by a different developer (who are very over rated) thats why its was not as good as no. 2

other FPS that have been good Condemned and Riddick (which blended a lot of gameplay types and well made apart from it was very short)


I'm hoping a bit improvement in AI as most game have a lot of time spent on the graphics

lewisrichard
26-04-2007, 13:11
is this deffo going to be a FPS? ive been hearing reports its going to be a RTS! which would be a good direction to go in ;)

DK_UK
26-04-2007, 13:40
COD2 was not dumbed down

Smaller maps, grenade warning icons, enemy positions located on map by red dots, all of which I think constitute the phrase "dumbed down".

Sure you can get mods like AWE which are a massive improvement, and remove the red dots, grenade icons. AWE also enables much missed feature(s) from COD:UO like sprinting (which is a bit buggy and clumbsy in its implementation) and grenade cooking.

You can now also download bigger maps for multiplayer, so thats less of an issue.

fivebyfive
26-04-2007, 14:51
Smaller maps, grenade warning icons, enemy positions located on map by red dots, all of which I think constitute the phrase "dumbed down".

Sure you can get mods like AWE which are a massive improvement, and remove the red dots, grenade icons. AWE also enables much missed feature(s) from COD:UO like sprinting (which is a bit buggy and clumbsy in its implementation) and grenade cooking.

You can now also download bigger maps for multiplayer, so thats less of an issue.

those things are hardly dumbing down the game for the casual masses. the way dumb down phrase get used its like the ideas in some crappy medal of honour or some other crap EA game. the smaller maps might of been because the lack of time the developers get today?

the problem is PC gamers see ALL consoles games as dumbed down, like this mong
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Number=6895155#Post6895155

Bezzant
26-04-2007, 14:58
crappy medal of honour or some other crap EA game.

I really enjoyed Allied Assault :?: Played that one online for a donkeys age.

Shame they are swaying away from WW2 era- i generally prefer a good ww2 shooter over a modern one. Mind haven't played CoD since the second one so no idea what the rest turned out like so might be for the best :shrug:

fivebyfive
26-04-2007, 15:03
I really enjoyed Allied Assault :?: Played that one online for a donkeys age.

AA was good in its day but the console only MOH games were terrible (aimed at the casual gamer (the phrase dumbed down does apply to rising sun and European assault)

DK_UK
26-04-2007, 15:04
those things are hardly dumbing down the game for the casual masses. the way dumb down phrase get used its like the ideas in some crappy medal of honour or some other crap EA game. the smaller maps might of been because the lack of time the developers get today?

the problem is PC gamers see ALL consoles games as dumbed down, like this mong
http://www.trekbbs.com/threads/showflat.php?Number=6895155#Post6895155

Well, the reason the PC maps were small was because the PC version had to have parity with the XBOX360 version.
As the 360 version can only support 8 (or is it 12 players?) Infinity Ward decided to shrink the maps. Then they just ported the game over to the PC.

I would consider all those stupid warning dots and icons to be dumbing the game down, I mean why include them in the first place?

Thankfully though, a lot of servers run with them disabled.

I do like COD2, I consider it to be a bit of a rough gem, if they had removed the aforementioned dots and warning icons, included "sprinting" and "grenade cooking" as standard features, then the game would have been amazing, instead of just "good", in my opinion... :)

fivebyfive
26-04-2007, 15:10
I would consider all those stupid warning dots and icons to be dumbing the game down, I mean why include them in the first place?

new ideas for the sequel, COD3 has awful trigger pressing bits but some people like them

if you can turn them off with a mod its not much of a deal. If the game had bullet time and 50 cent in, then thats a reason to get on the soap box

DK_UK
26-04-2007, 15:17
new ideas for the sequel, COD3 has awful trigger pressing bits but some people like them

if you can turn them off with a mod its not much of a deal. If the game had bullet time and 50 cent in, then thats a reason to get on the soap box

I don't really think that, I believe that those things were included so that the (generally) younger console players would not throw hissy fits when they were killed by grenades etc. I believe the function of the red dots were primarily for players who when playing online with a few people, weren't left wondering around the map for half an hour not seeing another opponent, again which would make more sense for the XBOX360 version if you can only have a handful of players, (another reason to have the smaller maps too). If they were simply "new ideas", then they were bloody awful ones, and many of the PC gaming players saw it that way.

Incidentally, an overwhelming majority (some 80 odd percent in a poll on the IW site) were also in favour of bringing back sprinting and grenade cooking which were in COD:UO but not in COD2.

anephric
26-04-2007, 15:52
I quite like the grenade indicators - I don't see why anyone would have a problem with them. The offensive fire indicators also are fine by me, so teammates can see where you've been attacked and get there.

Sniffy PC FPS bods get my goat. These are the same people that run Quake III with detail set to minimum so they can get 500fps. You may get a greater sense of community around games on PC but ohmigod the moaning about anything even vaguely mitigated towards console gaming.

DK_UK
26-04-2007, 17:31
I quite like the grenade indicators - I don't see why anyone would have a problem with them. The offensive fire indicators also are fine by me, so teammates can see where you've been attacked and get there.

Sniffy PC FPS bods get my goat. These are the same people that run Quake III with detail set to minimum so they can get 500fps. You may get a greater sense of community around games on PC but ohmigod the moaning about anything even vaguely mitigated towards console gaming.

Well thats cool, everyone is entitled to their own opinion of course, though for me, personally, I thought these were steps in the wrong direction - after playing COD and COD:UO, at least in terms of PC gaming. :)

GarethH
26-04-2007, 17:58
Is this coming out on PC? I loved COD2 but there was no way i was playing 3 with a pad! Is 4 out on the PC?

Drysolder
26-04-2007, 19:00
CoD 3 hasn't been released on the PC, and won't be, AFAIK, mainly due to the absolute panning CoD 2 received as being, well, designed primarily for the 360 (and there are is code in the PC version which references the 360).

In all likelyhood CoD 4 will, as it's being programmed by Infinity Ward themselves.

TBH, the age of WW2 FPS's is probably coming to an end; I used to play MOH and CoD religiously online, but I'm very meh about the idea of CoD 4.

anephric
26-04-2007, 19:17
You're not missing anything with CoD3 not being on PC, imo. I know some peeps love the online but it's always been buggy as hell for me - lousy collision detection, one-hit kills with rifles even if you're hit in the toe yet machine guns don't kill ****, rampant glitchy cheating etc etc. Oh, and the single most crappy lobby system on Live.

Soprano
27-04-2007, 08:15
I'm really going to miss running through the French countryside clearing out endless barns and church's...

I like the idea of a WW1 FPS, but guess it would look rather naff being stuck in a treach level after level. That US Civil War game was supposed to be awful, but the idea was good.

CoD 2 was wonderful. 3, not so good, but enjoyable.

anephric
27-04-2007, 09:24
Is there a US Civil War FPS? Is it just standing in a skirmish line reloading a musket and dying after 6 seconds in each battle? With realtime limb amputation?

Drysolder
27-04-2007, 09:53
Is there a US Civil War FPS? Is it just standing in a skirmish line reloading a musket and dying after 6 seconds in each battle? With realtime limb amputation?

There is - it's on the 360.

Don't tell Tony G, he'll be renting it to bump up his Gamerscore. ;) :lol:

fivebyfive
27-04-2007, 10:07
I don't think its out over here, its called "History Channel: Civil War"

TonyG
27-04-2007, 11:19
There is - it's on the 360.

Don't tell Tony G, he'll be renting it to bump up his Gamerscore. ;) :lol:
:p Nahhhh, Civil War FPS shooter sounds like an awful idea. What we need is a next-gen Vietnam War FPS game .... *sniff* Ahhhh I love the smell of gamer-points in the morning. :D

Thankfully, my gamerscore whoring days are over for now as i've left fivebyfive behind eating dust ;) & the next targets on my friends-list are miles ahead. :doh:

fivebyfive
27-04-2007, 19:32
Thankfully, my gamerscore whoring days are over for now as i've left fivebyfive behind eating dust ;) & the next targets on my friends-list are miles ahead. :doh:

thats fighting talk :mad:


;)

Matt KB
28-04-2007, 20:54
Trailer:

http://uk.media.xbox360.ign.com/media/902/902590/vids_1.html

One to get. Official site is http://www.charlieoscardelta.com/

TonyG
28-04-2007, 22:54
Oooooh yes! .... That'll do nicely. :thumbs:

tetsuo
30-04-2007, 16:46
This makes me think Battlefield 2 on the PC - if it can match that for online gameplay then i think i'll be picking this one up

ryonhilluk
01-05-2007, 09:44
I quite liked COD3, but then again i don't often play FPS games due to my laptop not handling them and i don't have a 360 anymore.

mr_woo
22-05-2007, 17:56
Apparently this is out this year, around November time :thumbs:


http://www.xboxic.com/news/2939


As long as it isn't delayed, xmas time is gonna be bloody busy!

fivebyfive
13-06-2007, 22:17
new pictures
http://www.xboxyde.com/news_4448_en.html


and 1st impressions at eurogamer as well

the choice to ditch WW2 era looks like it was a good idea

TonyG
14-06-2007, 10:44
More detailed first impressions over on IGN. http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/796/796052p1.html
Sounds fantastic. I particulary like this detail from the multiplayer gaming....

The one that seems certain to pique the interest of many gamers is Last Stand. When you take enough damage that you should be dead, you won't fall to the ground. Instead, you pull out your pistol and have a full clip to fire before shuffling off this mortal coil (unless someone pops you). You can't keep yourself from dying, but you might be able to take someone with you. Or, you can choose the "coward's way out" by holding down a button and take your own life to deny your opponent a full kill. :thumbs:

Dno
14-06-2007, 10:55
You'll notice a difference between the two well beyond a change in uniform and standard weaponry. The Marines are loud, with AI partners shouting a lot, cursing excessively, and being a bit looser even in the heat of combat. The SAS tend to be a lot quieter and calmer on missions and, at least outwardly, appear more professional.

Excellent.. While not a massive fan of previous CoD's, I'm quietly looking forward to this one.

mr_woo
14-06-2007, 11:13
More detailed first impressions over on IGN. http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/796/796052p1.html
Sounds fantastic. I particulary like this detail from the multiplayer gaming....

The one that seems certain to pique the interest of many gamers is Last Stand. When you take enough damage that you should be dead, you won't fall to the ground. Instead, you pull out your pistol and have a full clip to fire before shuffling off this mortal coil (unless someone pops you). You can't keep yourself from dying, but you might be able to take someone with you. Or, you can choose the "coward's way out" by holding down a button and take your own life to deny your opponent a full kill. :thumbs:



That sounds a lot like what happens in the 'killing zombies co-op game' coming out later this year/early next year called Left 4 Dead (must actually start a thread about it as it looks great). In that from the videos I've seen, when you're health gets to a certain point, you collapse and are lying on the ground but can hold up your arm and keep firing a pistol until your health drops to 0 or until you are rescued by a fellow team mate.

Looking forward to COD4 a lot, Infinity Ward haven't made a bad COD game yet, and after how naff COD3 was hopefully this will be a return to form.

TonyG
20-06-2007, 20:31
Gameplay video here... http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/12417

Looks good & retains that COD look & feel despite being set in another era. All the laser-sights everywhere is nuts. :D

Dno
21-06-2007, 08:32
Looking good.

KRW
21-06-2007, 08:44
Looks stunning to mine eyes.

versanil
21-06-2007, 16:22
It looks great. I hope they do it in the style of Team America and Viz's SWANT (Special Weapons and No Tactics)

Matt KB
23-06-2007, 13:46
Bit of multiplayer footage:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/20884.html

(cheers Twiztid)

cedge
23-06-2007, 14:02
That looks amazing. When's the release date....must preorder.

Uridium
24-06-2007, 12:19
Jesus - is anyone not going to buy this!!! Looks amazing!

DK_UK
24-06-2007, 12:52
That looks amazing. When's the release date....must preorder.

You have ages yet mate, November it seems... :brickwall

GarethH
24-06-2007, 13:24
Not a big fan of First person shooters in single player, but Call of Duty 2 was outstanding! Can't wait for 4!

mr_woo
24-06-2007, 16:15
This looks absolutely outstanding, I have complete faith in Infinity Ward, it's bound to be better than any cack Treyarch could come up with.

KRW
24-06-2007, 16:20
I've yet to play 3, so might skip that and just jump straight to 4.

TonyG
10-07-2007, 10:26
:eek: !!! .... This just gets more stunning every time I see it....
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DK_UK
10-07-2007, 10:53
Treyarch made United Offensive which was superb, the only reason COD3 sucked was because it was a tailor made console game, which had all the benefits and drawbacks that come with it. Blame Activision, not Treyarch for the rubbishness of COD3.

mr_woo
10-07-2007, 11:12
Treyarch made United Offensive which was superb, the only reason COD3 sucked was because it was a tailor made console game, which had all the benefits and drawbacks that come with it. Blame Activision, not Treyarch for the rubbishness of COD3.

Nonsense, COD2 was made for PC and consoles at the same time and look how great that game turned out. The blame is solely on Treyarch, this is also the same company responsible for the woeful Spiderman 3 game.

Dno
10-07-2007, 11:18
Pripyat is an excellent setting for it.. I found that Stalker didn't quite do the area justice, as the game felt rushed at that point, so here's hoping this does a better job.

Drysolder
10-07-2007, 12:23
Treyarch made United Offensive which was superb, the only reason COD3 sucked was because it was a tailor made console game, which had all the benefits and drawbacks that come with it. Blame Activision, not Treyarch for the rubbishness of COD3.

Let's get one thing right - Grey Matter made CoD:UO - way before it was merged into Treyarch to belch out the crap that is CoD 3 - Treyarch deserve ALL the responsibility for the abortion that it is.

So to recap:

CoD: UO - Great game in the tradition of CoD.
CoD3 - Abomination that we will never speak of, nor play again.

fivebyfive
10-07-2007, 16:04
Nonsense, COD2 was made for PC and consoles at the same time and look how great that game turned out. The blame is solely on Treyarch, this is also the same company responsible for the woeful Spiderman 3 game.

:thumbs:

Treyarch also did the ps2/xbox COD2: big red one, it was really dull and generic.

Treyarch are crap, thats the reason COD3 was rubbish (nothing to do with it being made with consoles in mind)

TonyG
11-07-2007, 13:29
As good as Killzone 2 looks, this for me is much more impressive....

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Dno
11-07-2007, 13:38
As good as Killzone 2 looks, this for me is much more impressive....


Very nice indeed... I hope it doesn't 'hand-hold' you like that all the way though. Hopefully that's just an initial training mission of sorts.

platty
11-07-2007, 13:38
:eek: ...That does look good .....love the lighting effects ....

TonyG
11-07-2007, 13:45
The animation on your sniper partner is leaps & bounds ahead of previous COD efforts.

Ono
11-07-2007, 14:33
This is multisystem and the videos seem to be the 360 version.

Wonder if they will do a DX10 version for PC.

Matt KB
11-07-2007, 15:25
No one's mentioned the CoD4 Xbox 360 beta "coming soon" yet...

TonyG
11-07-2007, 15:28
No one's mentioned the CoD4 Xbox 360 beta "coming soon" yet...
I'm sure I mentioned somewhere that I was curious to find out if they'll attach the beta to another game like they did with Crackdown & Halo3?

cluderi
12-07-2007, 03:00
This title looks awesome, it's currently just behind GTA IV as my most wanted title of 2007.

Drysolder
12-07-2007, 06:30
Very nice indeed... I hope it doesn't 'hand-hold' you like that all the way though. Hopefully that's just an initial training mission of sorts.

CoD's always done that, though - and the NPC character doing all the work (along with the silly accented voice acting), and continual checkpoints.

It was the end of the video where it started getting interesting.

DK_UK
12-07-2007, 07:51
Let's get one thing right - Grey Matter made CoD:UO - way before it was merged into Treyarch to belch out the crap that is CoD 3 - Treyarch deserve ALL the responsibility for the abortion that it is.

So to recap:

CoD: UO - Great game in the tradition of CoD.
CoD3 - Abomination that we will never speak of, nor play again.

Excuse my laziness.

I say Treyarch, as that is what they are now known as.

I was aware it was Grey Matter Studios, who also made the rather good Wolfenstein remake thingy a few years ago.

Regarding that last clip, it sure looks good, I only hope my setup can run it smoothly.

One niggling annoyance is that I see that they are still using the same tank sound effects from the original COD, bit lazy really, and I doubt a 1940's tank sounds the same as one from 200X?

Dno
13-07-2007, 08:44
/Rubs hands in delight:

Hi-Res link:
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21748.html


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I love the ship assault, and 'Charlie don't surf' looks ace. :thumbs:

TonyG
13-07-2007, 08:53
Was just about to post the above. How STUNNING does this look? ... Forget Halo3 & Killzone2 .... COD4 footage is blowing both away with ease. This easily sits on top of my Want-List now. :notworthy

scaramanga
13-07-2007, 09:53
That DOES look rather nice :) havent been too impressed with halo

Dno
13-07-2007, 09:58
The move to modern stuff has certainly given them the scope for a huge range of missions. I hope the stealthy stuff is implemented well.

ED_209
13-07-2007, 20:39
OMG! Thanks to that video this has just moved straight to the top of my most wanted list.

mklion123
13-07-2007, 20:49
I cant wait for this, I just wish they'd get someone decent to play the game in the videos.

mr_woo
13-07-2007, 22:59
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mklion123
14-07-2007, 01:28
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cheers mr_woo, it just look's better and better each time I see it, I'm started to get worried that if I watch much more, I'll have Subconsciously seen all the game!!

I like the night vision with the shaft's of light which only your team-mates can see, and where they all point the light at targets for you to shoot. and they mentioned that you also have hi-vis swatches on the friendly uniforms.

role on August for the beta.

DK_UK
14-07-2007, 10:52
It does look good, though am a little sad to see that health regen and grenade icons are in there from COD2.

I'm sure i'll be buying it, along with a new PSU and graphics card.

TonyG
20-07-2007, 20:52
European release date confirmed for November 9th, US get it on October 30th.

mclh
21-07-2007, 12:17
E3 2007 Stormy Night Gameplay HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22600.html)

:thumbs:

Phayze
21-07-2007, 12:51
E3 2007 Stormy Night Gameplay HD (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22600.html)
Look better and better the more I see. Is it just me, or does the walking look a bit "floaty"? I hope there's an option for a bit of bob - it looks like they're all on skateboards in that clip...

mclh
22-07-2007, 18:36
Sleight of hand vid (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/22624.html).

mklion123
22-07-2007, 19:03
so by the looks of it there will be achievements that will use the different powerups like slight of hand.

Matt KB
22-07-2007, 19:10
Hope these aren't powerups and are just features or increased skill levels the more you play or something. I don't want to be rushing around for "on crack reloading" or invincibility or any of that garbage. It already looks a bit EA-ified with the MULTIPLIER at the top.

Dno
23-07-2007, 08:25
I hope they keep all that crap to multiplayer only. :razz:

Certainly seems to be the case in all the vids so far.

TonyG
23-07-2007, 08:42
Yeah, I agree, hopefully all that daft nonsense is an optional extra on multiplayer only.

tetsuo
23-07-2007, 16:39
On one of the videos that is somewhere on this thread i think they mention that there will be unlocks on the multiplayer mode so i presume that this is just of of them (does seem quite usefull though)

mklion123
23-07-2007, 20:17
it's just a case of choosing the 3 perks that suit your style of multiplay,
I would have to choose the one where it gives you a few extra seconds before dying, as I seem to die too much in multiplay.

The Chad
24-07-2007, 00:09
Yeah I'm not a big fan of these "multiplayer perks" as they call them, I really hope there's a way to disable them if you're hosting a game. There have been 4 that i've seen so far and they are:

Last Stand - when you would normally die you fall to the floor and pull out your sidearm so you can continue to shoot until you are shot again or a time limit runs out

Deep Impact - gives your rounds extra power so you can fire through objects that are normally solid

Double Tap - increased rate of fire

Sleight of Hand - faster reloads

On top of those I have seen in some of the multiplayer videos what appears to be rewards for killing sprees, one was Radar which i would imagine would highlight enemies nearby? and also Airstrike.

Again I hope these are optional when setting up a game as it all seems a little off in this sort of game, it's the sort of thing i'd expect from a EA game

cluderi
24-07-2007, 02:51
Personally I'm loving the idea of these multiplayer perks in game, hopefully they'll add a certain rogue element to the game. It's all about variety, some people want an serious multiplayer wargame and some people want a less serious game with added elements to turn the tide of a match. Neither are right or wrong and thankfully Infinity Ward are catering to both.

I checked the COD4MW website and it's confirmed these will be an option when hosting a server.

The Chad
24-07-2007, 03:58
Yeah that's fair enough I'm not saying they're wrong, as you say some people will welcome them. I was just concerned that they wouldn't include an option to switch them off, but if they have given us that choice then all the better. It's looking like this will be a cracking game all round

jonorigin
24-07-2007, 08:12
Hope you can turn off all that extra crap in multiplayer! The best thing about COD2 multiplayer was that it was so simple and fun, with no crappy power ups to get in the way!

DK_UK
24-07-2007, 10:09
Yeah, "power ups" don't really seem to fall into line with what the COD franchise has been built on.

Seems rather gimmicky to me.

Drysolder
24-07-2007, 10:40
Yeah, "power ups" don't really seem to fall into line with what the COD franchise has been built on.

Seems rather gimmicky to me.

Such mods to earlier versions of CoD (on the PC) became pretty standard, but you're right, this does smack a bit of dumbing down the MP side.

Matt KB
24-07-2007, 17:00
It smacks of EA-ifying your product for mass market (read: retard) appeal.

mr_woo
24-07-2007, 18:17
It smacks of EA-ifying your product for mass market (read: retard) appeal.


I just see it as them adding more options to the multiplayer to give people more choice. As long as you have the choice as to whether or not you want to include them in matches I don't understand all the whining tbh.

Matt KB
24-07-2007, 18:19
More choice is good, so long as it keeps with the nature of the game. Doesn't look like it does so far, but like you say, so long as you can turn it all off.

I'm sure it'll be really good anyway :)

mklion123
24-07-2007, 18:27
More choice is good, so long as it keeps with the nature of the game. Doesn't look like it does so far, but like you say, so long as you can turn it all off.

I'm sure it'll be really good anyway :)

I just think that because they've had this game in developement for so long, they dont want to release cod2 with upto date weapons.

I'm sure their allowing the multiplayer beta, to gauge if their taking things too far.

I like the idea of perk's(turnoffable) just hope there's an option to turn kill cam off? assuming it's there?

Matt KB
24-07-2007, 18:34
That's a good point :D

DK_UK
25-07-2007, 09:44
I would expect (and hope) that much of the junk like "perks" would be turned off on PC game servers, as in my mind, a lot of these additions are to appeal to newer / younger / console gamers etc.

mr_woo
25-07-2007, 11:07
I would expect (and hope) that much of the junk like "perks" would be turned off on PC game servers, as in my mind, a lot of these additions are to appeal to newer / younger / console gamers etc.


I know quite a few guys who play COD on PC who like the look of some of the perks in COD4. Personally the only thing I like the look of is the last man standing perk which looks fun, the rest I can take it or leave it.

I hate this mentality though that somehow the PC crowd is more 'sophisticated' and that the perks are just aimed at the console audience, that reeks of PC superiorism.

Smigg
25-07-2007, 11:41
Achievement list has just been released and there are no multiplayer achievements! Good for me as I'm really bad at FPS's! :) List is available here http://www.totally360.com/gameinfo.php?gameid=298&details=news&newsid=1837

TigaSefi
25-07-2007, 11:58
http://xbox360achievements.org/achievements.php?gameID=377

Lovely achievements :) none of this complete it on hard levels either. And some fun ones like blow up all tv's etc.

Smigg
25-07-2007, 12:18
Yeah I thought that when I read them! Only one for completing on hard and the rest seem to imply you have some control over what you want to do in game. Especially the one named Ultimatum (description text mentions making the choice...).

fivebyfive
25-07-2007, 12:26
I hate online achievements (apart from co-op ones) so COD4 Achievements are :thumbs:

mr_woo
25-07-2007, 12:30
Could some kind soul post the achievements here please ? For all us folk in work :D

dannywonderful
25-07-2007, 12:34
Could some kind soul post the achievements here please ? For all us folk in work :D

Bird On The Ground (20)


Shoot down an enemy helicopter with an RPG

Bring ‘Em Home (20)


Operate an AC-130 gun ship

Dancing In The Dark (20)


Kill the power

Daredevil (10)


Kill an enemy while blinded by a flashbang

Deep and Hard (90)


Complete the game on hardened difficulty

Desperate Measures (20)


Corner Zakhaev’s Son

Down Boy Down (20)


Survive a dog attack

Earn a Winged Dagger (20)


Complete training at the killing house

Eyes and Ears (20)


Find 30 enemy intel items

Four of a Kind (20)


Kill 4 enemies in a row with skilled shots

Ghillies In The Mist (20)


Complete “All Ghillied Up” without alerting any enemies

Look Sharp (20)


Find 15 enemy intel items

Make the Jump (20)


Infiltrate a Cargoship

Man of the People (10)


Save the farmer

Mile High Club (20)


Sky dive to safety

New Squadron Record (20)


Complete the cargoship mockup in less than 20 seconds

No Rest for the Weary (10)


Don’t let him get away

Piggyback Ride (20)


Carry Cpt. MacMillian to safety

Rescue Roycewicz (20)


Save Pvt Roycewicz on the stairs

Roadkill (10)


Kill 2 enemies by blowing up a car

Save the Bacon (20)


Protect ‘War Pig’ the Abrams tank

Straight Flush (20)


Kill 5 enemies with one shot while in the AC-130 gunship

The Bog (40)


Survived the bog

The Escape (40)


Successfully escaped

The First Horseman (40)


One down three to go

The Second Horseman (40)


Two down two to go

The Third Horseman (40)


Three down one to go

The Fourth Horseman (40)


Then there was one

The Package (40)


Secured the package

The Rescue (40)


Rescued the VIP

The Search (40)


Completed the search

The Shot (40)


Successfully took the shot

The Ultimatum (40)


Made the choice

Three of a Kind (10)


Kill 3 enemies in a row with your knife

Win The War (40)


Complete the game on any difficulty

Wrong Number (20)


Find Al-Asads safehouse

Your Show Sucks (20)


Destroy all the televisions showing Al-Asads speech

TonyG
25-07-2007, 12:36
Seems a very strange decision to totally remove all multiplayer achievements. Not complaining though & looking through them, shouldn't be too much of a challenge to score heavily.

mr_woo
25-07-2007, 12:39
Cheers Tony, much appreciated! :thumbs:


Seems a very strange decision to totally remove all multiplayer achievements. Not complaining though & looking through them, shouldn't be too much of a challenge to score heavily.


Calling captaineyecatch, calling captaineyecatch :D

TonyG
31-07-2007, 13:25
Oooooh, playing with C4 reminds me of the good ol' days playing Battlefield 2....
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Grant666uk
31-07-2007, 13:34
Good god how smart is that game. Cant bloody wait for it.

mklion123
31-07-2007, 17:05
Seems a very strange decision to totally remove all multiplayer achievements. Not complaining though & looking through them, shouldn't be too much of a challenge to score heavily.

technically they haven't, infinity wards last one (CoD2) was the same the makers of CoD3 added multiplayer achievements.

DK_UK
31-07-2007, 20:15
Good god how smart is that game. Cant bloody wait for it.

It does look very good, though a few little things bug me, like the size of the C4 packs, they look more like rucksacks and are disproportionate to the volume of the explosion produced.

Should be a good game though for sure.

Dno
31-07-2007, 20:30
:lol: CoD has never exactly been a simulation.

fivebyfive
02-08-2007, 16:43
Activision has crushed the hopes of UK and European gamers hoping to get in on the multiplayer beta for Infinity Ward's impressive FPS Call of Duty 4 on Xbox 360.

The publisher has confirmed with CVG this morning that the beta test WILL BE for US residents only.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=169364

very annoying if true

TonyG
02-08-2007, 17:22
Annoying is an understatement! .... I'm picturing Matt, suiting up like Rambo as we speak, ready to embark on C4'ing Infinity Ward HQ if that's true. :|

Matt KB
02-08-2007, 17:43
When pushed killin' is as easy as breathin' !!!!!!

DK_UK
02-08-2007, 17:50
When pushed killin' is as easy as breathin' !!!!!!

LOL.

I can hear European, Asian, Scandinavian, African, South American, Canadian and Oceanaic heads exploding all over the world as we type... :brickwall

TonyG
02-08-2007, 19:13
When pushed killin' is as easy as breathin' !!!!!!
:lol:

mklion123
02-08-2007, 19:53
that's it I'm just googling IW's address now, I'm sure we can find a website on how to make the C4, I'll start a new thread for anyone that want's to join CoD4-us-not-testing-software, now to come up with a catchy acronym.:lol:

RCW
02-08-2007, 20:14
or maybe not...


Hey Everyone;
I know there has been an uproar regarding the fact that the Public Beta may be restricted only to US residents. I wanted to give you guys an update and let you know that this is currently an unconfirmed statement, as details on Beta limitations are still in the works.

I will update you PERSONALLY when we have an official confirmation on Beta Limitations so bare with me while I get this all sorted out for you guys.

More info coming soon.
_________________
Infinity Ward: Community Relations Manager

http://www.charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=14075

better not be US only :cry:

TonyG
02-08-2007, 20:15
YAY! ... the fertiliser bomb we left parked next to their HQ must have scared them to change their minds. :thumbs:

Creamstick
02-08-2007, 21:35
I have a pre-order for this that will be getting cancelled if the beta is US only. A shocking way to treat potential (and loyal - I've bought every CoD game so far [well, 1 on the PC, that add-on pack, the Gmecube one, and 2 & 3 for the 360 - I don't think it's that bad, actually]) customers.

DK_UK
03-08-2007, 00:02
or maybe not...




http://www.charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=14075

better not be US only :cry:

In other words, they are re-considering their position and may release it worldwide if we cry and whinge enough? :wave:

GAmbrose
03-08-2007, 08:00
I have a pre-order for this that will be getting cancelled if the beta is US only. A shocking way to treat potential (and loyal - I've bought every CoD game so far [well, 1 on the PC, that add-on pack, the Gmecube one, and 2 & 3 for the 360 - I don't think it's that bad, actually]) customers.

So when it gets released and gets rave reviews you aren't going to buy the game on principal? Yeah right.

Gary A

Dno
03-08-2007, 08:27
A shocking way to treat potential (and loyal - I've bought every CoD game so far [well, 1 on the PC, that add-on pack, the Gmecube one, and 2 & 3 for the 360 - I don't think it's that bad, actually]) customers.

Cor, you deserve a free copy or somfink.

It's just an unfinished demo, that'll probably detract from the experience of the finished game anyway.

Drysolder
03-08-2007, 08:31
Cor, you deserve a free copy or somfink.

It's just an unfinished demo, that'll probably detract from the experience of the finished game anyway.

Not really, it just shows how differently each market is treated. Go look on the US Marketplace and see how much more content there is on there compared to the EMEA one.

lentini
03-08-2007, 10:49
Beta my not be US-only after all:

http://kotaku.com/gaming/give-me-just-a-minute-while-i-clarify%27%27%27/call-of-duty-4-beta-not-us+only-after-all-285590.php

Creamstick
03-08-2007, 12:26
So when it gets released and gets rave reviews you aren't going to buy the game on principal? Yeah right.

Gary A

Nope, I'll borrow my brother-in-law's copy - he'll buy it anyway.

wakeupjake
03-08-2007, 14:26
i think the general reaction is a bit much by most people. Ok, I'm a bit miffed about the demo and the regional muck up and the sudden back pedalling. At the end of the day its just the beta of the multiplayer they are talking about. I dont think I'd change my purchase over that as I'm buying it for the single player shenanigans.

I think a lot of people take all this a bit too seriously at times, yes its a tad annoying but as long as the game ships on time and you have it on release what more do you want? (GTA i'm looking at you) Gettin miffed about video game market equality is a bit pointlesss when you consider there are far bigger issues in this world, to be fair.

GAmbrose
03-08-2007, 14:35
Yes, well said.

Gary A

Creamstick
03-08-2007, 19:21
i think the general reaction is a bit much by most people. Ok, I'm a bit miffed about the demo and the regional muck up and the sudden back pedalling. At the end of the day its just the beta of the multiplayer they are talking about. I dont think I'd change my purchase over that as I'm buying it for the single player shenanigans.

I think a lot of people take all this a bit too seriously at times, yes its a tad annoying but as long as the game ships on time and you have it on release what more do you want? (GTA i'm looking at you) Gettin miffed about video game market equality is a bit pointlesss when you consider there are far bigger issues in this world, to be fair.

While this is an entirely sensible sentiment, it is also just this kind of thinking that lets developers and publishers get away with this kind of treatment of potential and loyal customers in the first place.

In a time where budgets are at an all-time high, they should be clamouring for every potential sale - instead they decide that we are not important enough to bother with. They'll still glady accept our money at the till, but ultimately we don't matter enough to show any appreciation to.

Games right now, by the same token, are at an all-time high price-point. This game will be released around the time that (this year especially) is choked with highly anticipated releases. You would think that any publisher would be bending over backward to entice potential buyers. Instead, they've simply decided that we don't matter.

So, in light of this, you'll forgive me if I don't share the same sentiment as you do - you don't seem to care about this, I do. I'll continue to care when other publishers and developers take the same tack - it happens - one publisher decides to cut content/costs etc., no one cares and so they all do. It'll happen soon enough to some download content/beta/whatever that you do happen to want, and then it'll be different I'm sure. There's been a staement/release/whatever saying that it may infact now come to Europe. Do you honestly think that would be even speculatively announced if people had just said 'meh, don't care'? No way.

KRW
03-08-2007, 20:02
But demo's are apt to put as many people off as much as anything else. Lots of demo's ive downloaded and then decided not to bother with the game. I'll be buying COD4 but couldnt give a stuff about a demo.

wakeupjake
03-08-2007, 20:35
my feeling is that the demo is set to serve as a test of the games online capability, stress testing etc. Features will change and wont resemble the final product. I am all for try before you buy, as a consumer it is the best way to entice me...they know this. Had it of been a hefty single player demo I feel I may be a bit more peeved, but at the end of the day its not the end of the world.

/goes off to play Real Life

Matt KB
03-08-2007, 21:04
If the demo is US only I am going to go and punch a baby in the face, then never buy another Xbox game in protest.

MarcusUK
03-08-2007, 21:07
If the demo is US only I am going to go and punch a baby in the face, then never buy another Xbox game in protest.

You forgot the part about wishing that the developers get aids

Creamstick
03-08-2007, 21:07
If the demo is US only I am going to go and punch a baby in the face, then never buy another Xbox game in protest.

Pick your baby carefully - they can be wily buggers.

Drysolder
03-08-2007, 22:07
i think the general reaction is a bit much by most people. Ok, I'm a bit miffed about the demo and the regional muck up and the sudden back pedalling. At the end of the day its just the beta of the multiplayer they are talking about. I dont think I'd change my purchase over that as I'm buying it for the single player shenanigans.

I think a lot of people take all this a bit too seriously at times, yes its a tad annoying but as long as the game ships on time and you have it on release what more do you want? (GTA i'm looking at you) Gettin miffed about video game market equality is a bit pointlesss when you consider there are far bigger issues in this world, to be fair.

Had this been on the PSN network - which is free, then I'd agree. However, we're PAYING Microsoft for the priviledge of precisely this kind of content.

There's no excuse.

Drysolder
04-08-2007, 08:20
Full details of the beta announced:

http://www.charlieoscardelta.com/beta.php?

Looks like it's an 'answer questions, then go into a draw' setup for the beta keys.

Matt KB
04-08-2007, 09:58
Read through that last night, sounds good. The perks idea sounds a lot like Shadowrun which should make for some interesting strategies.

Dno
04-08-2007, 10:02
You forgot the part about wishing that the developers get aids

*Publisher*. The developer usually has sod all to do with this kind of decision.

fivebyfive
04-08-2007, 10:06
*Publisher*. The developer usually has sod all to do with this kind of decision.

the quote was a dig/reference at the deranged playstation zealots on the midway forum when they heard the ps3 strangehold was region locked

Matt KB
04-08-2007, 10:18
Likewise :D

Dno
04-08-2007, 10:43
Oh, lol.. Fair enough.

MarcusUK
04-08-2007, 13:47
the quote was a dig/reference at the deranged playstation zealots on the midway forum when they heard the ps3 strangehold was region locked

Glad someone got the joke :thumbs:

The Chad
04-08-2007, 16:38
After reading the latest info about this i'm left feeling a little disappointed, It seems to be straying far from the traditional CoD series and going more Rainbow Six/Battlefield. The one thing I always loved about CoD2 was the simple multiplayer gameplay where everything was standard, without the worry of having to put in hours and hours of online gaming before you can unlock weapons (which is the impression that i'm getting from this now)

TonyG
08-08-2007, 12:41
IGN have been playing the multiplayer Beta & talk about it here... http://uk.xbox360.ign.com/articles/811/811393p1.html

It sounds stunning & I seriously believe this may be the first 360 online multiplayer game that i'm going to concentrate on & put some proper effort into. :notworthy

cedge
08-08-2007, 14:38
Sounds utterly Amazing :notworthy, especially with the HALO 2 like lobby system in place.

it also sounds like some of the nice features from COD2 have been carried through :)

Hopefully all the perk's and customisations can be fully controlled by the host or turned off. Don't know how many players it supports multiplayer though although the team games in the beta suggest 8 again.

The Chad
08-08-2007, 14:59
Yeah sounding very good, I'm sure i've read somewhere that it's supposed to be 16 players on live

Edit: Just saw a screenshot from the pre-beta on the official COD4 site that shows a lobby with 11/12 players

Drysolder
19-08-2007, 23:41
We're at Defcon 3 on the beta demo - apparently it'll drop in 4 days, and weigh in around 1Gb, give or take a few Mb.

Also, a new MP video has hit YouTube - there's a lot of text in this one, and the crappy nature of YT obscures some of it:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CMEz1Mji5hQ

RCW
21-08-2007, 09:16
http://www.charlieoscardelta.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=18902

1700 PST so that's Weds midnight in UK?

not really been following what happened about the US only thing, is that still the case for the first stages of the beta?

TonyG
21-08-2007, 10:10
Thankfully we have Bioshock/Blue Dragon later this week to ease the sting of missing out on the beginning trials of the Beta.

RCW
23-08-2007, 12:51
from COD

tokens to download the Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Xbox 360 Multiplayer Beta will be distributed on a first come, first serve basis. While Charlie Oscar Delta's tokens are linked to United States Xbox Live accounts only, we will be rolling the COD4:MW MP BETA out to additional select countries in early September. We will be posting the information here, at BETA HQ, so please check back for updates for your country.

Matt KB
01-09-2007, 09:52
This is superb :notworthy

Can easily see this sitting nicely alongside Mr Halo 3 come December, looks set to pick up nicely where CoD2 left off.

nutter45
01-09-2007, 10:04
Agreed. Brilliant stuff so far :)

sirp
01-09-2007, 10:56
first impressions are its very good. Hard to stay alive, but top stuff, looks and sounds great!

cluderi
01-09-2007, 11:49
I hate you guys

*goes to sulk in the corner because he can't play it*

TonyG
01-09-2007, 13:40
Dont despair Cluderi, they need all the practice they can get. Too many good new games around to waste time on a Beta anyways. :p

superstarbeejay
01-09-2007, 13:55
Too many good new games around to waste time on a Beta anyways. :p

I keep telling myself the same.

Matt KB
01-09-2007, 14:12
If you want the Beta just PM me :) it only takes a few mins to get it going.

Drysolder
01-09-2007, 14:51
Dont despair Cluderi, they need all the practice they can get. Too many good new games around to waste time on a Beta anyways. :p

[Yoda]I sense much fear in you... :p

dvdric
01-09-2007, 17:40
If any of you have the beta add my gamertag ive got it. but i do work for a game review site so has its benifits. WARRIC

internetuser
01-09-2007, 19:41
I got the beta, add me will be on tonight or tommorow.

I got it direct to my UK account from the sign up, thought it was us only

Matt KB
01-09-2007, 19:44
Yeah they ballsed it up big time.

ShakeyJake
01-09-2007, 21:19
Ooh I just got an email saying I'm on the beta :D

HarryTipper
02-09-2007, 08:28
Looks like Game (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump2.php?url=http://clkuk.tradedoubler.com/click?p(12813)a(60823)g(80187)url(http://www.game.co.uk/lowdown.aspx?lid=7663&cm_sp=callofduty-_-topnav-_-cod4)) are giving out Beta access codes if you preorder from them.

splobber
02-09-2007, 09:54
If you want the Beta just PM me :) it only takes a few mins to get it going.

PM's don't work on this forum. :suspect: Unless you are referring to Live messaging? :suspect:

So I've emailed you. :thumbs:

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 09:59
Errr forgot they don't work on the forum. Oh well, just wish it or something :D

Ignore my first email, the 2nd one will get it even quicker.

The SAS in this game are ace. "Bloody 'ell we just got our arses kicked"

dvdric
02-09-2007, 10:02
Can i ask a question this beta was for the americans only. So why are the admins sharing this beta around we are told theres no talk of piracy etc etc etc. but what you are doing is piracy of some sort your not officially aloud to do this explain yourselfs.

splobber
02-09-2007, 10:05
:nuts: @ "explain yourselves"

Since when are freely available beta's piracy? Is the Halo 3 one too?

dvdric
02-09-2007, 10:07
Well its not freely about the only official people are the americans who had signed up for the beta or PR people who work for game sites etc.its not like halo that was tagged on to the game crackdown where was COD4 on a game.

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 10:08
Not sure what he's on about piracy, I'm playing it legitimately.

It's "supposed" to be for Americans only. However they're sending the world and his wife Beta codes so that's out the window.

I think it has something to do with the location form not working on their website sign up, you can't select any region other than USA :lol:

Drysolder
02-09-2007, 10:10
Can i ask a question this beta was for the americans only. So why are the admins sharing this beta around we are told theres no talk of piracy etc etc etc. but what you are doing is piracy of some sort your not officially aloud to do this explain yourselfs.

Sorry m8, you sound just like the Yank numpties on CharlieOscarDelta complaining about it.

It looks like IW changed the terms of the Beta signup halfway through the process, leading to a lot of non-US accounts signing up, not just UK, but Germans, French, Swedes, you name it.

They've released an additional 20,000 keys, and it's fairly obvious that they're not checking the locality of the Gamertags (since you have to provide that) when they release the keys.

Blame IW for this mess, not the people who've signed up.

And it *IS* freely about; just ask the idiots on ebay charging people £7 for the priviledge.

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 10:13
Wish I thought of that :D

Splobs - I trust the email got through now?

I'm still amazed each game of this, the objective modes are really superb, love the Kill Streak bonuses. Also really good how each map promotes a totally different experience.

dvdric
02-09-2007, 10:13
No what im about you saying pm me and ill set you up with the beta what have you done made a silver account and logged the game on the download history for someone to log in and grab it. I got mine becuase i work for a Game review site. i know its only a beta but its the principle of the matter. every time i come on here and someone talks anything about something dodgy, the moderators are straight on the banning stick. I guess its one rule for one and one rule for another pity that.

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 10:18
How do you know I don't have a certain amount of codes through similar work?

I resent the implication I am involved in anything dodgy :oh-hum:

dannywonderful
02-09-2007, 10:18
Looks like Game (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump2.php?url=http://clkuk.tradedoubler.com/click?p(12813)a(60823)g(80187)url(http://www.game.co.uk/lowdown.aspx?lid=7663&cm_sp=callofduty-_-topnav-_-cod4)) are giving out Beta access codes if you preorder from them.

Can't you cancel preorders? What would stop you cancelling the preorder once you've got the code?

dvdric may be the most moral man on these forums. He's an example to us all!

Can someone e-mail me with details of how to get the beta please? :n0rty:

Sheepking
02-09-2007, 10:19
No what im about you saying pm me and ill set you up with the beta what have you done made a silver account and logged the game on the download history for someone to log in and grab it. I got mine becuase i work for a Game review site. i know its only a beta but its the principle of the matter. every time i come on here and someone talks anything about something dodgy, the moderators are straight on the banning stick. I guess its one rule for one and one rule for another pity that.

Boo Hoo Hoo. Upset because you thought you had exclusive access to the beta and it turns out everyone can get it?

I was going to ask Matt to give me access but as I pre-ordered from game.co.uk over a month ago i suspect I'll get a email next weekend with a code

Quint
02-09-2007, 10:21
Wish I thought of that :D

Splobs - I trust the email got through now?

I'm still amazed each game of this, the objective modes are really superb, love the Kill Streak bonuses. Also really good how each map promotes a totally different experience.

Any chance you could help me out with getting it :help:

Couldnt e-mail you as it is not in your profile, so drop me an e-mail if possible :)

Drysolder
02-09-2007, 10:25
No what im about you saying pm me and ill set you up with the beta what have you done made a silver account and logged the game on the download history for someone to log in and grab it. I got mine becuase i work for a Game review site. i know its only a beta but its the principle of the matter. every time i come on here and someone talks anything about something dodgy, the moderators are straight on the banning stick. I guess its one rule for one and one rule for another pity that.

I got mine through the beta process. Have a look at my profile on CharlieOscarDelta (same as my Gamertag) - you'll see that lovely green 'beta' star next to it.

/And Silver accounts don't work through that process. FYI. ;)

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 10:25
But it is not LEGIT.

Drysolder
02-09-2007, 10:26
But it is not LEGIT.

Shurrup, whiner. :p

[The Rock]I only need SOLDIERS![/The Rock]

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 10:29
Bunch of pirates, the lotta ya.

dvdric
02-09-2007, 11:05
Sorry to matt Kb if i have offended i wasent accousing you of that but that seems to be the way it been done so ive been reading. Also if i have offended anyone else im sorry but had to speak my mind.

DK_UK
02-09-2007, 11:08
Can someone email me the beta but hack it first so that it works on the PC, or my old Neo Geo...? :)

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 11:09
Sorry to matt Kb if i have offended i wasent accousing you of that but that seems to be the way it been done so ive been reading. Also if i have offended anyone else im sorry but had to speak my mind.

It's ok ;)

swanny
02-09-2007, 11:14
Matt or anyone, I wouldn't mind a key if you have a spare. Thanks.

Drysolder
02-09-2007, 11:20
Can someone email me the beta but hack it first so that it works on the PC, or my old Neo Geo...? :)

AES or the MVS version, as I'd heard there's issues with the AES hack. :p

kanedaa
02-09-2007, 12:01
I can't be bothered with the gamertag exchange method but if anyone has a spare key going I'd love one to. Thanks!

Geoggy
02-09-2007, 14:01
@ Matt; :notworthy

thanks mate.

This has all the makings of a classic

no flipping
02-09-2007, 14:51
can anyone kindly email me instruction on how to get the beta fo rthe 360 please. Been waiting to play this for ages. Thanks

mklion123
02-09-2007, 16:40
Hope these aren't powerups and are just features or increased skill levels the more you play or something. I don't want to be rushing around for "on crack reloading" or invincibility or any of that garbage. It already looks a bit EA-ified with the MULTIPLIER at the top.

Wish I thought of that :D

Splobs - I trust the email got through now?

I'm still amazed each game of this, the objective modes are really superb, love the Kill Streak bonuses. Also really good how each map promotes a totally different experience.

so have you changed your mind or are you talking about 2 different things?:shrug::suspect:

damell
02-09-2007, 16:40
Wouldn't mind a bash at the BETA too if you still have spares Matt? My email is shiny_m0n@hotmail.com.

No worries if not. :)

lewisrichard
02-09-2007, 17:33
if anyone wants in make sure im on your friends list and ill guide you thro on xbox live.

:)

no flipping
02-09-2007, 17:38
if anyone wants in make sure im on your friends list and ill guide you thro on xbox live.

:)
cheers will add now

Harsin
02-09-2007, 18:29
I can't be bothered with the gamertag exchange method but if anyone has a spare key going I'd love one to. Thanks!

Pre-order it from Game (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump2.php?url=http://clkuk.tradedoubler.com/click?p(12813)a(60823)g(80187)) then cancel your order once you get a key.

MetalGearAl
02-09-2007, 18:40
This game is top stuff. It starts off pretty tricky as it uses a levelling system where the higher you go the more weapons and perks you get to choose from. Most of the time I baulk at this kind of systems but it doesn't take long to move up through the ranks.

I can imagine it will only get worse though, as there are 30+ odd levels it's probably going to be a case of if you don't play online regularly then you're going to fall behind and find it difficult to get back into?

Unlocked the M4 which I was happy about, but that meant I lost my red laser sight and I'm terrible about it. Didn't take long to earn it back for that gun too :)

anephric
02-09-2007, 18:45
Lovin' this. Miles better than the glitchy crap online that was CoD3.

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 18:52
Miles better than most Fps currently on 360 tbh.

Got to say, one thing I'm not sure on is the better weapons the more you level up. You will have to put in some time to get the better stuff to unlock to play with online, some people don't like that at all.

Can't say I'm too fussed as I think you can compete pretty well with the bog standard stuff.

res
02-09-2007, 19:10
Got to say, one thing I'm not sure on is the better weapons the more you level up. You will have to put in some time to get the better stuff to unlock to play with online, some people don't like that at all.

This kind of thing in games REALLY puts me off TBH. Fair enough you earn upgrades during the single player, but what is the point in starting people off unevenly during a multiplayer match.

Good (way better than COD3) but still not Halo though... :p

damell
02-09-2007, 19:13
if anyone wants in make sure im on your friends list and ill guide you thro on xbox live.

:)

Sorry mate my headset is playing up big time. Will try and sort it and catch you later if you're around. :)

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 19:14
This kind of thing in games REALLY puts me off TBH. Fair enough you earn upgrades during the single player, but what is the point in starting people off unevenly during a multiplayer match.

Good (way better than COD3) but still not Halo though... :p

I'm half split really, I don't mind this too much as it's very quick to level up (Beta wise). Could be far worse (see Rainbow Six).

damell
02-09-2007, 19:26
What's the big secret about getting the BETA then? Are we not allowed to share it on here?

lettuce
02-09-2007, 19:43
I thought the BETA was for US users only?

fivebyfive
02-09-2007, 20:07
I thought the BETA was for US users only?

read pages 9 or 10 of this thread

no flipping
02-09-2007, 20:12
Can anyone help me out her please? If not will have to order from Game, then cancel.

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 20:20
What's your Tag?

no flipping
02-09-2007, 20:22
What's your Tag?


Xbox live tag:Paulie Wallnutz :thumbs:

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 20:39
Friend's request sent

no flipping
02-09-2007, 20:40
Friend's request sent
cheers...and accepted

mikegray
02-09-2007, 20:40
I pre-ordered with Game aaages ago but haven't had a key? Or have Game not started issuing them yet?

superstarbeejay
02-09-2007, 20:49
This kind of thing in games REALLY puts me off TBH. Fair enough you earn upgrades during the single player, but what is the point in starting people off unevenly during a multiplayer match.

Good (way better than COD3) but still not Halo though... :p

I got used to the levelling up in this way in BF2 and I think, like BF2, you can still compete with the bog standard kit.

I love the challenges, should add some longevity to the game.

It took me about 20 games to work out that by pressing left on the d-pad I could equip the grenade attachment for the rifle.

Matt KB
02-09-2007, 20:56
I pre-ordered with Game aaages ago but haven't had a key? Or have Game not started issuing them yet?

They start from the 7th iirc.

mikegray
02-09-2007, 20:59
They start from the 7th iirc.

Cool. Should be in the first batch, then. :)

lettuce
02-09-2007, 21:02
So you have to be someone in your friends list that has the BETA and then you can play the BETA aswell?? If so my tag is SpidermanSpeaks if someone could assist

hezzer
02-09-2007, 21:46
If someone can help me out to get this it would be much appreciated, I will be on most of the day tomorrow. Cheers

cluderi
02-09-2007, 22:37
*still sulking in corner because he can't play as he lives in Aus*

LALALALA... I can't hear you all.... I'm sure you're all saying how bad the game is.... :cry:

MetalGearAl
02-09-2007, 22:40
Played it for a good few hours today. I think the levelling up is going to make MP play annoying for some, as you do get much better advantages once you've put in the time. 150 kills with an assault rifle gets you a scope for it, which I haven't acquired yet but I'm sure it's going to tip the balance somewhat.

Still haven't managed to get a 7 kill-streak yet (which lets you use the helicopter), 6 has been my best. So frustrating!

FPS rate in the game is lovely and smooth, good to see they haven't pushed the graphics so far that that suffers.

anephric
03-09-2007, 08:21
The Acog scope isn't all that - in fact, it's counterproductive in a lot of situations.

I've levelled up the MP5 and both M16s pretty much to the max the Beta allows but I can't be bothered with anything else because I don't use them, and the AK sucks ass.

MetalGearAl
03-09-2007, 08:37
Someone must have been playing the beta a lot then :D

I used the better sniper rifle a fair bit yesterday in the interest of levelling it up, but none of the 3 levels are really ideal for using it. To be honest I'm best off using my custom class of M4 + RPG most of the time.

My play completely changes on each of the levels, I can usually come in top 3 on Vacant but I'm crap on the rural outdoor one.

nutter45
03-09-2007, 08:37
150 kills with an assault rifle gets you a scope for it, which I haven't acquired yet but I'm sure it's going to tip the balance somewhat.

It does tip the balance, the wrong way. The scope is bloody useless :lol:

MetalGearAl
03-09-2007, 08:40
Heh, will stick with my lovely red laser dot then :D

KRW
03-09-2007, 08:55
EXPLAIN YOURSELVEs!!!111

:notworthy:

anephric
03-09-2007, 09:00
I'm disappointed you don't get anything after the 7 kill streak (helicopter). I got a 16 streak in one game and was fully expecting tactical nuclear capability. Either that, or the option to call in Lone Wolf McQuade.

nutter45
03-09-2007, 09:04
If someone can help me out to get this it would be much appreciated, I will be on most of the day tomorrow. Cheers

Send me a FR and I'll sort you out :thumbs:

MetalGearAl
03-09-2007, 10:15
Sounds like I'll have to play against you anerphic to put an end to those streaks. Although never mind the fact I haven't passed 6 yet :/

It's rather refreshing after playing so many WW2 games to be able to throw grenades that actually do some damage for once :)

MrSpoons
03-09-2007, 12:05
can anyone help out a poor northener with getting access to the beta? gamertag is the same as my forums name

Ta

ajw000
03-09-2007, 13:31
if anyone fancies sending me a friends invite for this, that would be awesome :notworthy

gamertag: Goat Karma

GAmbrose
03-09-2007, 14:46
Ditto

Same as Forum name.

Gary A

lentini
03-09-2007, 14:52
me too :thumbs:

LouBarlow
03-09-2007, 14:53
I don't want a beta key - thanks anyway.

JD20
03-09-2007, 15:07
My gamertag is f0rkit if anyone can sort me out :thumbs:

linkslow
03-09-2007, 15:55
Same here my Gametag is Psychotic Prey

ed209
03-09-2007, 16:09
Me to !!

gamertag Edfunk :thumbs:

kohoutec
03-09-2007, 16:12
May as well grovel as well, gamertag kohoutec if anyone can help :D

lasty22
03-09-2007, 16:13
My gamertag for xbox live is lastyUK

if anyone can sort me with the beta i would be most grateful thanks !

wakeupjake
03-09-2007, 17:46
need something to tear me away from Bioshock.

gamertag is wakeupjake, no worries if anyone cant :)

Grandmaster
03-09-2007, 17:47
I'm disappointed you don't get anything after the 7 kill streak (helicopter). I got a 16 streak in one game and was fully expecting tactical nuclear capability. Either that, or the option to call in Lone Wolf McQuade.

Or John Matrix. :D

no flipping
03-09-2007, 21:06
just to confirm, does the beta only have multiplayer?

nutter45
03-09-2007, 21:12
Multiplayer only.

mclh
03-09-2007, 21:55
Take it full version has a single player (or co-op) campaign though?

MetalGearAl
03-09-2007, 22:35
Yep.

Has something gone pop with this? I Couldn't get mine to log in all night.

Drysolder
04-09-2007, 06:11
Yep.

Has something gone pop with this? I Couldn't get mine to log in all night.

It has - it was labour day in the states yesterday, so expect the servers to have been flooded with loads of whiny yanks.

Steve39
04-09-2007, 07:16
I wouldn't mind an invite for the beta too (if they're still about?). GT is Steve39

Cheers,
Steve.:thumbs:

damell
04-09-2007, 10:26
It has - it was labour day in the states yesterday, so expect the servers to have been flooded with loads of whiny yanks.

Oh and how they whine.

Other than that though, I'm enjoying this. The leveling's a nice touch and so far it hasn't taken that long to progress through the ranks which is a good thing as I don't play that much. Anyone know how many there are?

I like the class system too and the perks and what not. As for the actual gameplay, it's just the same old COD so I can't complain. Good fun.

cedge
04-09-2007, 11:08
From the things you can unlock in the menu it goes up to at least Lv 55.

Grandmaster
04-09-2007, 15:38
Quick question:

Is there any way to change your custom classes during a game? Not being able to do so is really getting on my nerves.