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The Bear
18-04-2007, 22:19
This Saturday there will be the first ever female commentator on Match of The Day. She's doing Fulham's match against Blackburn.
Her name is Jacqui Oatley and she is from the West Midlands, and is an ardent Wolves fan according to a few fans on the message boards I frequent that knew her.
She has apparently done one or two matches for Five Live already and is a regular summariser for them, though I can't say I've ever heard her.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=449195&in_page_id=1779
(Dave Basset - Predictable comment from a football dinosaur)
So, women commentators. Good or bad? Personally I don't see why not, it will just take time to get used to a female voice, especially when there's a goal! Plus she can't be much worse than how tired and cliche-ridden the likes of Motson and Davies have become.
The vast majority of football commentators talk a load of rubbish, if she knows the game very well and cuts all the trash talk (take note ITV) that most of them do then what is the problem?
unrealnils
18-04-2007, 22:36
Bring it on i say
It shouldn't matter if a commentator is man, woman or beast, as long as they are up to the job then that should be the end of it! She can't be any worse than Motson, Jonathan Pearce or David Pleat!
There's always been a woman doing the summarising of the early FA Cup games on MOTD. You know, where they show a graphic of the two shirts and then a short summary (rather than commentary) of the game.
I've no problem with that, and I've no problem with a woman commentating 'in full' - as long as she's good.
Get Mike Newell as a pundit though! :D
cheeseypuffs
18-04-2007, 23:13
(Dave Basset - Predictable comment from a football dinosaur)"commentating is different. You must have an understanding of the game and the tactics and I think in order to do that you need to have played the game." Does he know how much of a cock he sounds? I wonder if he says the same about Motson, Davies, Pearce, Tyldesley and Tyler, not to mention Wolstenholme :shrug:
As long as she can say "at the end of the day", "bomb on" and "he must have a foot like a traction engine" she'll be as good as most of the ex-pros that the mute button was invented for. I'll bet she doesn't get relegated to the tactics truck after a week ;)
DeadYankee
18-04-2007, 23:32
I've nothing against women commentators per se, but this woman is unbearable on 5 live
ralph wiggum
18-04-2007, 23:38
(Dave Basset - Predictable comment from a football dinosaur)These kind of chauvinistic comments really annoy me :oh-hum: surely we left all that behind 20 years ago!
I'm sure she'll do as good a job as many of the commentators working today & as long as she doesn't mind doing an FHM spread & gets them out for the lads, I'll be happy. :thumbs:
FightForTheRight
19-04-2007, 01:28
If she's as "throaty" as Georgie Thompson, then I'm all for it.
I've nothing against women commentators per se, but this woman is unbearable on 5 live
What he said. Very very annoying but she may take to commentating very well so I'll see how she goes in that role.
Keiron99
19-04-2007, 09:12
She's on 5 Live Extra a lot. Not only is she totally uncharismatic and bland as could be, she just has a downright irritating voice. Sorry, but for me, a shrieking female voice during moments of high drama doesn't do it for me (oo-er). But then I am a sexist old pig, I just don't like women at football matches full stop. I don't go to coffee mornings and knitting circles, so they shouldn't go to the footy. Is there any male territory that women haven't encroached on in these politically correct times?
lovegroova
19-04-2007, 09:33
Shrieking female voice? Are you describing Clive Tyldesley every time Rooney touches the ball?
gingertom
19-04-2007, 09:34
She's on 5 Live Extra a lot. Not only is she totally uncharismatic and bland as could be, she just has a downright irritating voice. Sorry, but for me, a shrieking female voice during moments of high drama doesn't do it for me (oo-er). But then I am a sexist old pig, I just don't like women at football matches full stop. I don't go to coffee mornings and knitting circles, so they shouldn't go to the footy. Is there any male territory that women haven't encroached on in these politically correct times?
"Put your knickers on and make me a cuppa tea"
Never heard her but surely she cant be any worse than Motson or Pleat ??
Keiron99
19-04-2007, 09:44
Never heard her but surely she cant be any worse than Motson or Pleat ??
What's wrong with Motty? (I know it's fashionable these days to slag him off) I can't think of a commentator better than him.
And as for Pleat, for what he did, as Danny Baker said "He's a prince among men". He knows where a woman's place is. (In the back of his car, on top of another one)
What's wrong with Motty? (I know it's fashionable these days to slag him off) I can't think of a commentator better than him.
And as for Pleat, for what he did, as Danny Baker said "He's a prince among men". He knows where a woman's place is. (In the back of his car, on top of another one)
Motty is so bad that Stevie Wonder could do a better job in commentating on matches.
Pleat is awful, I say ITV should bring back Big Ron to replace him.
Keiron99
19-04-2007, 10:33
Motty is so bad that Stevie Wonder could do a better job in commentating on matches.
Not sure why you say that? He always seems impartial, calls it as he sees it, doesn't talk too much, and knows more about footy then the rest of us put together. Has a bit of character about him too. The archetypal commentator, maybe a bit old school for some?
welshmatt
19-04-2007, 10:43
My problem with Motson is that especially on live BBC games, he seems to mis-call certain occurances in the game, even after replays have proven him wrong. I dont mind the geeky football trivia.
For example, in the ManU v Watford semi when Watford scored Motson raved about the goal even though replays showed it was defelected and would otherwise have gone straight into the keeper's hands. Even with the replay and Lawro pointing this out he still kept on.
Its almost as if he cant see exactly what is happening.
Keiron99
19-04-2007, 10:57
Its almost as if he cant see exactly what is happening.That's the reason we loved Murray Walker!
MaxNutter
19-04-2007, 11:01
My problem with Motson is that especially on live BBC games, he seems to mis-call certain occurances in the game, even after replays have proven him wrong. I dont mind the geeky football trivia.
For example, in the ManU v Watford semi when Watford scored Motson raved about the goal even though replays showed it was defelected and would otherwise have gone straight into the keeper's hands. Even with the replay and Lawro pointing this out he still kept on.
Its almost as if he cant see exactly what is happening.
still not as bad as fat alan green ...
Soon Football will be like this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITpYnvMWKZY
home_bas
19-04-2007, 11:23
Can't stand Motty, spends half the time laughing about crap jokes rather than getting what's on the pitch correct.
Notice if you see him comment on a game Rooney is playing in how many time he mentions his age - makes me want to put my fist through the telly. Thank god he eventually stopped doing it for Owen as well.
Even worse when Lawro's on as well, thinks he's a right comedian.
I reckon Brighty's a good co-commentator though - seems pretty spot on with his observations and just sounds right.
Barry Davies was always my favourite - classic commentary when Bergkamp scored against Argentina in the '98 world cup.... "BEEERRRRRGGGGKAAAAAAAMMMMPPPP!!!!" :)
MaxNutter
19-04-2007, 11:27
Can't stand Motty, spends half the time laughing about crap jokes rather than getting what's on the pitch correct.
Notice if you see him comment on a game Rooney is playing in how many time he mentions his age - makes me want to put my fist through the telly. Thank god he eventually stopped doing it for Owen as well.
Even worse when Lawro's on as well, thinks he's a right comedian.
I reckon Brighty's a good co-commentator though - seems pretty spot on with his observations and just sounds right.
Barry Davies was always my favourite - classic commentary when Bergkamp scored against Argentina in the '98 world cup.... "BEEERRRRRGGGGKAAAAAAAMMMMPPPP!!!!" :)
BD was great, and easy to enthuse massively over that goal!
Grandmaster
19-04-2007, 12:13
Barry Davies was always my favourite - classic commentary when Bergkamp scored against Argentina in the '98 world cup.... "BEEERRRRRGGGGKAAAAAAAMMMMPPPP!!!!" :)
I remember his commentary for a Blackburn game during the free-scoring Shearer era. "No! Don't let him turn!"
mklion123
19-04-2007, 13:05
I just wonder what will happen every time there's an offside decision?
long pauses of silence followed by "I dont know why the ref keeps stopping play, it's got me baffled!!!!"
John Hodson
19-04-2007, 13:11
Women; Know Your Limits! (http://www.flixya.com/harry-enfield-women-know-your-limits)
cpheonix
19-04-2007, 13:19
Another Motty basher here too, but not cos its "in" but cos he's bloody awful. Like someone else mentioned, that watford goal he kept bleating on about how its one of the goals of the FA Cup even though it was deflected! What an idiot. Also, I'm sure it was a chelsea game where ashley cole did a simple back-heel and he was banging on for 5 minutes afterwards about what skill it was.
So, really anyone would be better. I know Gabby's been around for a while but she's doing alright on MOTD I think, so a female commentator is no big deal as long as she knows what she's on about (like Gabby).
She's done at least one fivelive commentary and I didn't like her style. Having said that I have disliked all of the current commentators on the radio when they started but have grown to like each one. The last newbie was the Irish bloke Connor unknown who I really like now.
Lawrenson and Motson are THE biggest piece of trash commentators today. The way Motty attempts jokes, puns and sniggers makes me want to kill myself on the spot.
Some bird won't do any worse. It's ain't possible.
DeadYankee
19-04-2007, 13:45
Motson and Lawrenson are both excellent, I've not a bad word to say about them
Keiron99
19-04-2007, 14:24
I know Gabby's been around for a while but she's doing alright on MOTD I think, so a female commentator is no big deal as long as she knows what she's on about (like Gabby).
There's a big difference between presenting and commentating though. That Gabby woman (is she Yorath's daughter?) always seems a bit scripted to me. Probably why ITV pushed her out. And she looks a bit like a nice looking bloke...
What happened to Elton Welsby while we're on the subject? I fixed a puncture for him once. He was fantastic on Radio City in Liverpool in the 70s, as was Clive Tyldsley, neither of whom made the transition to TV very well (rather like John Champion and Ian Pain who were excellent on radio 5).
HenryKrinkle
19-04-2007, 14:27
I'm not sure I like the idea, won't it be a bit hard to understand her if she's applying lippie every 5 minutes? I don't mind birds watching footie, but it should be either very quietly or preferably in another room (...having said that, I always watch the footie with my GF so I'm a big fraud :lol: )
...I have to say women's footie is the funniest thing to watch, they look totally knackered after 5 mins, seem totally devoid of any skill and don't even swap shirts at the end...I mean, come on!!!!
MaxNutter
19-04-2007, 14:36
What happened to Elton Welsby while we're on the subject? I fixed a puncture for him once.
from his wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elton_Welsby) page:
"Welsby has become something of the forgotten man of television sports coverage, although he has recently been seen presenting Crown Green Bowls for Sky Sports."
I think we should train Peter Aliss in the ways of football, surely the sweetest voice (in a non homoerotic way of course) in sports coverage!
Keiron99
19-04-2007, 14:50
...I have to say women's footie is the funniest thing to watch
Women's football? What next, monkey tennis? (A quote from someone on Fighting Talk. Made me laugh )
Can't stand Motty, spends half the time laughing about crap jokes rather than getting what's on the pitch correct.
And Lawreson spends most of his time correcting Motson. The sooner he is gone the better.
I reckon Brighty's a good co-commentator though - seems pretty spot on with his observations and just sounds right
:lol: - he's just one of many muppets working with the BBC and ITV nowdays
No one, but no one can be more irritating than Jonathan Pearce. Mind you, I'd prefer there not to be a commentary these days, just give me a subchannel so I just listen to the sound of the crowd.
As for Gabby, was she wearing a napkin on MOTD about two weeks ago(on top of a godawful grey top)? - kept watching it flap instead of listening to anything she said........
DeadYankee
19-04-2007, 16:14
I am always quite shocked at the lack of respect shown to one of the legends of the game. John Motson is deserving of more than this contempt
I love Motty, admittedly helped by him being a Barnet fan but he is interesting and comments on things you don't necessarily pick up-unlike Bright who is likeable but very bland. As is Lee Sharp. And Gavin Peacock. And Andy Townsend...
Loads of them are far far worse than Motty who is IMO the sound of England on the BBC
If he can't do the job that he is paid to do then why should he be treated with any respect. I have no doubt that in his day he was a good commentator but the facts are that Motty should have been pensioned off years ago as the number of mistakes he makes during a 90 minute game is ridiculous.
for me his errors highlight his charm as he is still very enthusiastic-just confuses himself sometimes. I'm wary of getting rid of him and even Lawro who I don't particularly like when the next lot seem far far worse and are completely unilluminating (sp?)(you can add Robbie Earle, Jamie Redknapp and Ally McCoist to the list I just gave-Le Saux seems to be the sole redeeming one and you don't tend to see much of him these days
mklion123
19-04-2007, 16:33
he's getting like murray walker was to the end of his bbc career.
mklion123
19-04-2007, 16:35
for me his errors highlight his charm as he is still very enthusiastic-just confuses himself sometimes. I'm wary of getting rid of him and even Lawro who I don't particularly like when the next lot seem far far worse and are completely unilluminating (sp?)(you can add Robbie Earle, Jamie Redknapp and Ally McCoist to the list I just gave-Le Saux seems to be the sole redeeming one and you don't tend to see much of him these days
gotta say I don't mind Jamie Redknapp compaired to a lot of footballers he seem's to come across quite well.
he's not a bad bloke but I;ve never heard him say anything remotely interesting. Same for Mark Bright who is ok as a journo on the BBC London slot but awful in games.
IMHO, Hansen, Motty and Lineker are the holy trio
BlueDwarf
19-04-2007, 17:46
Can't stand Motty, spends half the time laughing about crap jokes rather than getting what's on the pitch correct.
Even worse when Lawro's on as well, thinks he's a right comedian.
Motty and Lawro are the worst pairing. Lawro making slow-witted puns, and Motty chuckling at his own inane stats.
Stick Bright, Crooks, and Dixon on the panel, and you have the stuff football coverage nightmares are made of.
MaxNutter
19-04-2007, 18:28
Motty and Lawro are the worst pairing. Lawro making slow-witted puns, and Motty chuckling at his own inane stats.
Stick Bright, Crooks, and Dixon on the panel, and you have the stuff football coverage nightmares are made of.
Garth Crooks ... jeez, there's another one!
Didnt Le Saux walk out on the BBC cos he was so far down the pecking order? At least he had a bit of intelligence, unlike Lawrenson, Schmeical, Reid, Crooks (the worst of the lot), Wright (the most annoying of the lot), etc etc
Sadly, and I hate to say this, but Shearer has actually made some good points. He even disagrees with Hansen, which is a first for the BBC.
A little of my has just died inside writing that.
Anyway, back on topic - I dont mind commentators being women at all, its just that I have heard her in action a few times on R5, and she is by far the crappest commentator on the station. She sounds nervous, she goes quiet too often - but in her defense, the fact she has made MotD must be killing Alan Green. So there is a benefit to all of this....
...I actually dont mind Alan Green the commentator, but having met and briefly worked with him, I'm not a huge fan of Alan Green the person. Gabby is great off screen, as is Helen Chamberlin, Barry Venison (his dress sense has improved vastly) and most of the others I have met. The best people are, without a doubt, Guy Mowbray and Peter Brackly. Sound men those two.
I agree about Shearer he has improved a lot. I must be the only person in the world who likes Garth and apparently Motson too. I think Dixon and Schmeichel are both worthwhile too. Wright is entertaining at least even if he normally contributes nothing of interest beyond just pointing ('this is a great goal-look at this' etc) so has 2 out of three (entertainment, intelligence, likeability). Sharpe scores 0 for me, Townsend, Redknapp and Bright maybe 1 each...
ranting-what I should say is that I quite like the woman commentator from what I've heard.
Is Barry Venison even alive these days?
Grandmaster
19-04-2007, 19:20
Haven't seen MOTD since I emigrated - but Schmiechel was god-awful. He barely seemed capable of even completing a sentence. Have things improved?
Keiron99
19-04-2007, 19:45
Didnt Le Saux walk out on the BBC cos he was so far down the pecking order?
Removed - not a good idea to post this on here.
FightForTheRight
20-04-2007, 00:39
It could be even MORE worse than that - they could have Jamie Redknapp.
Sometimes can't believe he played the game with the amount of crap he comes out with on Sky.
home_bas
20-04-2007, 01:08
Garth Crooks has to be the most boring man in footbazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..........................
cpheonix
20-04-2007, 09:54
Motty, Crooks and Shearer are the 3 stooges of MOTD.
Motty gets it all wrong on commentating, Crooks asks the most stupidiest questions when interviewing and Shearer...well, that guy just repeats everything Hanson says.
Just throw in John Barnes as a presenter and the BBC would have the whole shabang.
Keiron99
20-04-2007, 10:56
Removed - not a good idea to post this on here.
I was being ironic of course, given the blatant sexism that seems to be acceptable.
Mr Flibble
20-04-2007, 14:21
Suprised there's no slagging of Carlton Palmer - that guy just annoys the hell out of me on Score Interactive on the BBC! He just looks to argue with EVERYONE
not ever seen him TBH.
As we're well off topic already and I'm clearly on my own in liking Motson and Crooks, who do people actually rate?
I think Lee Dixon is a surprisingly good pundit and a nice guy too, Hansen is still the daddy and Shearer is getting better. Also like Lineker and Lawrenson.
The absolute worst I've seen is Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink-not a bad bloke but had some real communication problems and almost as nervous as Gazza in his world cup stint!
charlie angel
20-04-2007, 14:35
Barry Davies, spot on in his comments -
There will be people thinking we can’t have a woman doing that job, but why not? I hope people give her a chance. You probably need half-a-dozen commentaries to get used to it.
She is certainly very keen and knowledgeable. The problem she has is that she is the first.
DeadYankee
20-04-2007, 14:47
The problem, for me, is that in every commentary I've heard she comes across as an airhead who is at her first match and is trying to work out how many points you get for a throw-in
unrealnils
20-04-2007, 14:52
who do people actually rate?
Ray wilkins as a pundit. Its good when sky have him on and theres an italian team involved quite often sky (and itv) take the low road and slate italian club teams left right and centre.
At least when hes on he gives a proper view on the team/players on show rather then going about crowd trouble and diving.
The Bear
20-04-2007, 14:59
It's obvious she knows as much about football as any bloke. She has been mad on it from an early age and used to play regularly for a women's team before injury forced her to retire.
So that's Dave Basset's argument down the pan.
I don't doubt that she knows her stuff but the problem is she is very poor at actually expressing that from what I have heard on 5 Live.
There was a Sky game a while (the England game I think) and the pundits were Ray Wilkins, Glenn Hoddle and, *ahem* Jamie Redknapp. The first two exposed Redknapp for the cliche-ridden fool that he is.
I have a lot of time for Ray Wilkins and Glenda as pundits. On the Beeb, it's Hansen of course. The rest of the BBC lot (erm, Gavin Peacock?!!!) are basically rubbs.
I was being ironic of course, given the blatant sexism that seems to be acceptable.
Ironic or not it is those type of comments that could land us in hot water so keep those remarks off the site please.
...I have to say women's footie is the funniest thing to watch, they look totally knackered after 5 mins, seem totally devoid of any skill and don't even swap shirts at the end...I mean, come on!!!!
And they have the worst goalkeepers in the world - any shot on target seems to just fly in. And if there's a high ball into the area then they have no chance whatsoever of getting themselves near it.
Did you ever see on Sky once they showed highlights of the Women's FA Cup Final at the end of a Monday Night Football programme?
It was so bad (and therefore hilarious) that Andy Gray and Richard Keys were in hysterics and could barely speak well enough to close the programme. Totally unprofessional but totally brilliant!
It was so bad (and therefore hilarious) that Andy Gray and Richard Keys were in hysterics and could barely speak well enough to close the programme. Totally unprofessional but totally brilliant!
that was very very funny.
Got to say im not impressed. Its like listening to fanzone !!!! Mute for rest of this game .
I was all for a female commentator.....but it just sounded so forced. really not sure why it sounded s wrong but there just isn't any conviction in her voice, sounded like she wasn't actually at the game!?!
Not convinced
she werent too bad. female jon pearce. shame on you bashers
DeadYankee
21-04-2007, 22:35
I felt embarassed for her
fadeaway53
21-04-2007, 22:48
Ummm, well, it sounded odd having a woman commentating on top level football.
Probably says more about us men than it does about her abilities but her commentary sounded out of place for me.
DeadYankee
21-04-2007, 22:50
Bring back the plane
LouBarlow
21-04-2007, 22:56
As long as she still gets home to do the cooking and ironing I have no problem with it.
Must say her screaming all the time was getting on my tits a bit. Almost as distracting as Motty..
Maybe they should get some bird in to replace Shearer. Does he even like football? :thinking: He seemed to be unbelievably bored.
Fever Dawg
22-04-2007, 07:21
I was all for a female commentator.....but it just sounded so forced. really not sure why it sounded s wrong but there just isn't any conviction in her voice, sounded like she wasn't actually at the game!?!
Not convinced
I thought that too. Plus she sounded a bit like Delia Smith. :nuts:
She said some strange stuff too. "Blackburn have just missed two exquisite chances ...."
What a wonderful thing the mute button is :notworthy
Women know your role and commentating on top flight football isn't one of them, surely its a case of women should be seen but not heard :n0rty:
BBC MOTD are making a big mistake!
Fever Dawg
22-04-2007, 08:54
I feel like I've been time warped back to the 1950's.
I haven't heard her commentary myself but lets have a look at the lady in question:
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k87/AlanB01/Forum%20Images/jacqui_oatley.jpg
She sounded like a teenage boy which I found slightly off putting, but I don't mind her too much.
Commentating on a 90 minute match though would get me looking for the five live button.
watched match of the day. Was a bit odd, but I guess in time we will get use to her.
I thought she was chronic.
Give her time. Much like the early episodes of The Simpsons. All the characters look and sound crap, but in time, mature. She will get better.
I might have misheard it but I could've sworn she said "scored a home goal" ?.
Seemed okish but went a bit high pitched at times and was as if she had a script of words she would use to describe chances:like when a teacher tells you not to repeat a word too many times in an essay.
Have heard worse (ITV commentators take a bow) but not convinced that its the way of the future ...........
Early days though.
I haven't heard her commentary myself but lets have a look at the lady in question:
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k87/AlanB01/Forum%20Images/jacqui_oatley.jpg
I thought she did a great job.
:D
Rollo_Tomassi
22-04-2007, 14:35
How patronising did Lee Dixon sound afterwards? "she did really well, didn't she?"
ffs, i don't get all the fuss, it's just another 'person' describing a football match.
thought she did fine, the only reason people are finding it weird is because it's something new and a majority of people are scared of change.
Give it a month and this whole debate will be long forgotten about.
I think he sounded honest.
DeadYankee
22-04-2007, 14:55
It isn't "new" though - she's been on the radio for years and has not got any better
The Bear
22-04-2007, 17:08
Thought she was alright. Much better than the bloke who did the last game shown.
ffs, i don't get all the fuss, it's just another 'person' describing a football match.
And lets fact is anyone is better than Motty ;)
Yeah, it was fine, although a little weird. Once people are used to it, they probably won't even notice (well, maybe).
She was fine - although I haven't had the 'pleasure' of her on Five.
escape_adil5
23-04-2007, 08:15
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/match_of_the_day/6581453.stm
Commented on here
Citysmith
23-04-2007, 08:24
I thought she was brill, I haven't laughed so much at a footy game in ages. Bringing comedy to MOTD, well done the BBC.
Reckon the next step should be to give a little visual (Optional red dot) box in the corner of her doing the commentary. She's easy on the eye, that would be a great step forward.
What will the crazy and wacky BBC think of next :nuts:
essex_max
23-04-2007, 11:46
Fair play for her getting the gig but she sounded awful. Something not quite right about the commentary to be honest. Hopefully she doesn't do another game. I'm just glad she wasn't doing the West Ham v Everton game.
spearce8
23-04-2007, 12:25
Bring back Barry Davis
I have to say women's footie is the funniest thing to watch, they look totally knackered after 5 mins, seem totally devoid of any skill and don't even swap shirts at the end...I mean, come on!!!!
Well then you've never watched any decent standard of womans football or you're one of those folks that think football stops at the bottom of the Premiership.
spearce8
24-04-2007, 13:39
It's quite obvious this was a P.C thing, Fast-tracked into the job, to satisfy the "Referee's Assistant" brigade, surprised the BBC didn't Kill Two Birds with one Stone and insist on a Black Woman.
xraystan
24-04-2007, 15:34
God forbid any of you listen to radio 5. Like has already been said, she's been commentating on there for ages, along with other women.
Football's a MAN'S game. Grrrrrrrrr. Keep women out of football.
heard her commentate on MOTD for the first time last night. Seems to emphasise everything too much for my liking but will surely improve over time and won't seem so much out of place when more female commentators come along
God forbid any of you listen to radio 5. Like has already been said, she's been commentating on there for ages, along with other women.
Football's a MAN'S game. Grrrrrrrrr. Keep women out of football.
Only because the FA/Football League (controlled by men) banned the womens game from playing at the Football League grounds, back in the days when the womens game was attracting crowds approaching or even bigger than the mens game.
So tell me, why is it a mans game?
DeadYankee
14-05-2007, 15:29
I think he was being, like, er, ironic or something
I dunno why though as she's bloody awful
I'd be curious to know when the womens game has ever had crowds bigger than the mans game?
DeadYankee
14-05-2007, 15:49
He's right - Women's football was big back in the olden days
fadeaway53
14-05-2007, 18:10
Starting to get more used to her now. Thought she did a pretty good job on MOTD last night.
Keiron99
14-05-2007, 19:02
I'd be curious to know when the womens game has ever had crowds bigger than the mans game?
In the 1920's. 53,000 turned up to one match at Goodison.
In the 1920's. 53,000 turned up to one match at Goodison.
Wasn't that when the mans game was getting 100,000 per game? ;)
Heard her commentary for the first time last night. Awful.
Think I'm in the minority that like Motty's commentary. Pearce is ok too.
When it comes to analysis, I like it to be great or laughable. Mediocre doesn't cut it. Hansen, Linekar and Lawenson have real chemistry during their analyses. At the other end of the spectrum, I regularly watch score interactive, as Mark Bright, Carlton Palmer, Garth Crooks and Ray Stubbs are comedy gold.
Keiron99
14-05-2007, 19:42
Wasn't that when the mans game was getting 100,000 per game? ;)
I think it grew in popularity in the war, when of course there wasn't any men's football.
Keiron99
14-05-2007, 19:43
Heard her commentary for the first time last night. Awful.
She's the worst commentator on any medium by a country mile.
home_bas
14-05-2007, 19:51
Thought she was ok... not brilliant, but ok.
No worse than Motty anyway, at least she didn't spend the whole game giggling innanely at her own crap jokes.
As a matter of interest was there a 6 page thread when, say, Steve Wilson started commentating on MOTD?
I'm not suggesting that the woman in question is any good, but there's a lot of pretty poor male commentators doing the rounds that seem to pass by without this much attention.
I happen to think Steve Wilson is one of the better BBC commentators and would rather he did the live games than Motty. I still haven't heard this new lady but I don't have a problem with female commentators in general, I wouldn't have though she will get anywhere near the live games yet but as time goes on she can only improve.
It is a little weird to hear her - they've had female summarisers on MOTD before (I'm thinking of the Road to Wembley type early FA Cup shows, etc), but it's a bit odd to hear a female commentator getting excited about a goal, etc.
Tbh, I don't think she's any better or worse than most. She does a similar job IMO.
So who's getting the FA Cup Final on the Beeb this Saturday? I think Steve Wilson's been given a chance over Motty for bigger games in the past, but not sure if Motty's 'experience' will give him the nod.
splobber
14-05-2007, 21:38
Should be good fun listening to her commentary on rag week.
The other thing I notice is that all the sports readers on the news channels are women while all the cookery programmes feature men. What crazy times we live in.
I happen to think Steve Wilson is one of the better BBC commentators and would rather he did the live games than Motty.
Sorry, yes, my comment was nothing at all against Steve Wilson (who I quite like as well). He was just the first random new-ish male commentator I could think of!
She got on my nerves referring to the Charlton player Zheng Zhi as "the China captain" everytime he got the ball. It was as if she had just found this out and was trying to mention it as many times as possible. She's very poor IMO.
Highlander
15-05-2007, 09:27
I caught about a minute of her commentrary (sp?) and thought it was awful. She was very quiet (for a commentator) and lacked impact and emotion.
She got on my nerves referring to the Charlton player Zheng Zhi as "the China captain" everytime he got the ball. It was as if she had just found this out and was trying to mention it as many times as possible. She's very poor IMO.
Bingo, that's the exact point that annoyed me.
DeadYankee
15-05-2007, 10:17
Bingo.
Best place for her :p
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