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Ive just measured my phillips 32 inch TV and the actual screen itself is only about 26 inches wide!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.
Im thinking of getting the 43VJ Toshiba, but im stuck between widescreen and a 4.3 TV. What is the actual size of a film in widescreen on the 43 inch 4.3 tosh, Is it true that its not really gonna be much smaller then a dedicated widescreen 40 inch tosh.
Also I have a white walled front room so will this cause viewing problems.
ManxMuppet
13-01-2002, 13:22
Isn't it 32 inches measured accross the diagonal???
Sprout Crumble
13-01-2002, 13:24
The 43" Toshiba will show a 16:9 image the same as a 39.5" widescreen TV.
To all intents and purposes the VJ will be the same as the 40" widescreen sets but has the added bonus of showing an undistorted full-screen image around 70% larger.
Go for it, don't believe the hype.
Thats great thanks just what I wanted to hear. So where do companies say its a 32 inch widescreen when in fact my actual screen is only 26 inches wide. I take it when you say 39.5 inches wideescreen you mean the actual screen width and not the TV itself???
Radiohead
13-01-2002, 13:36
Originally posted by Brad123
Thats great thanks just what I wanted to hear. So where do companies say its a 32 inch widescreen when in fact my actual screen is only 26 inches wide. I take it when you say 39.5 inches wideescreen you mean the actual screen width and not the TV itself???
Brad
as mentioned above, TV screens are measured diagonally, rather than side-to-side. The same goes for PC monitors. That's why you'll often see "viewable screen" mentioned in ads.
So is the 39.5 inches mentioned above the actual screen size or the whole tv .
the 39.5 quoted will be the picture size of a WS DVD, measured corner to corner. In my experience with my 43" telly, that'll probably be with a 1.85:1 (or thereabouts) movie as, of course, a 2.35:1 piccy will be slightly wider, thus a slightly smaller overall image size, maybe around 36/37" (ish).
Blimey .....
I can't believe the amount of inaccurate and confusing advice on this thead :eek:
The sizes quoted on the spec of all TVs is the size of the diagonal viewing area (i.e corner to corner of the screen)
There is a size comparison page click here (http://www.slagfarm.demon.co.uk/Widescreen.html)
It can give you the width and height of picture if you put in the set's size .
It will also calculate the size of the equivalent picture (i.e the size of the w/s picture on a 4:3 set of the size you quote - or size of 4:3 picture on a w/s set)
A 43" 4:3 set gives the same size widescreen pictures as a 39" widescreen set.
Originally posted by Sprout Crumble
The 43" Toshiba will show a 16:9 image the same as a 39.5" widescreen TV.
To all intents and purposes the VJ will be the same as the 40" widescreen sets but has the added bonus of showing an undistorted full-screen image around 70% larger.
Go for it, don't believe the hype.
Aren’t most terrestrial programs in WD now anyway?
Why not get a 43in wide screen TV, and get a 43in picture?
yup, most of the terrestrial broadcasting is in WS thru digital, and sometimes, ye olde ariel, but there's always an argument for displaying stuff in 4:3 and that's when these babies get going! I love the way The Simpsons looks on my telly and none of this stretching lark! :p Add to that my DVD's which are meant to be seen in 4:3, such as The Shining, and you get a bloody great set!
Go for 4:3 - because it's worth it!
Originally posted by Simes
Blimey .....
I can't believe the amount of inaccurate and confusing advice on this thead :eek:
The sizes quoted on the spec of all TVs is the size of the diagonal viewing area (i.e corner to corner of the screen)
Not wanting to be pedantic ;) but the quoted figures aren't the visible area, but actually the distance between the mounting points.
For example on my 28" 4:3 Toshiba, the actual visible area is 27".
Same goes for computer monitors, which is why some 17" monitors have more screen real estate than others.
laura.
jon smith
15-01-2002, 17:35
Originally posted by Simes
Blimey .....
I can't believe the amount of inaccurate and confusing advice on this thead :eek:
The sizes quoted on the spec of all TVs is the size of the diagonal viewing area (i.e corner to corner of the screen)
Simes you are wrong in this. Remember that measuring the corner to corner of the screen will also take into account curvature of the screen. This is the measurement (diagonally) the size refers to - not the viewable area.
Info on a 32 inch widescreen television will state somewhere what the viewable area is.
When talking about inaccurate and confusing advice ... i was refering to:
as mentioned above, TV screens are measured diagonally, rather than side-to-side. The same goes for PC monitors. That's why you'll often see "viewable screen" mentioned in ads
How does "viewable screen" in any way relate to screens being measured diagonally as opposed to horizontally !!!!!
. In my experience with my 43" telly, that'll probably be with a 1.85:1 (or thereabouts) movie as, of course, a 2.35:1 piccy will be slightly wider,
A 1.85:1 and a 2.35:1 picture will both be the same width on the TV.Its the height of the picture that will be different.
So is the 39.5 inches mentioned above the actual screen size or the whole tv
This is how much the information confused brad :D
Yes the w/s TV size figures are not totally accurate (a 28" widescreen won't give a picture that measures exactly 28" corner to corner).It is roughly that size.All tube manufacturers are slightly different.
They don't differ in the same degree as computer monitors though.Some 17" monitors only have a 15.7" viewing area :(
If it did your 40" TV could measure 36.9 "
Slippery
15-01-2002, 22:50
How far back should you sit from a 43" set??
Anything from 8 - 13ft is probably best.
BlueDwarf
15-01-2002, 23:00
Remember watching a program when I was a (younger) kid, that said the minimum you should sit back from a TV is:-
1.5 X diagonal screen size, but I guess you should add a bit to this for a 43"er.
(this is an absolute minimum recommended, and not a "comfortable" distance)
Slippery
15-01-2002, 23:08
Does that apply to the RPTV's as well. i.e. do you need to go back a bit more to avoid those lines on the RPTV?
I have a 41" rear projection tv that has a visible area of 40" and when playing 16x9 material gives a 38" screen.
By the way I sit 7ft away from it.
Slippery
15-01-2002, 23:42
IS the picture good at that distance?
I have a 43 inch 4:3, (equivalent to a 40inch widescreen model for widescreen viewing but a damn sight bigger than the widescreen model for 4:3 viewing.
The tosh 43inch and 40inc widescreen have the same basic chassis, and indication that thei widescreen size is very similar.)
The 43inch 4:3 is usually a bit cheaper too. Sound and Vision are a good supplier.
You do need to sit ~9+ feet away otherwise you notice the line structure of the TV picture. TV as 625 'lines' although less are actually viewable.
The important thing is with RPTV that you are not sitting too high or too low relative to the TV as the viewing angle vertically is quite small. Horizontally its no problem.
I guess I'm suggesting that smll kids on the floor looking up will get a far duller picture than people sat on the sofa at the right height.
I have the older 43PJ toshiba and the TV stand is mandatory (unless you already have one) to get a decent viewing height.
Please read the original thread to get all these answers and more
Oh, and remember how they told you pythagoras' theorem at school wouldn't be useful, well it is here.
On a 4:3 set. Measure the width of picture. Divide by 4 and multiply by 5 to give the viewing diagonal. (width * 1.25)
On a 16:9, measure the width and divide by 16 and multiply by 18.36 to get the viewing diagonal. (width * 1.147)
I find the height of the 43VJ to be just right for comfortable viewing from the sofa - is the 43PJ screen lower down than the VJ or is it just my sofa? :nuts:
Anyhow, I would advise anyone thinking about buying the VJ to have a peek at a display model to see if the stand would benefit them or not.
Originally posted by pip&pop
The important thing is with RPTV that you are not sitting too high or too low relative to the TV as the viewing angle vertically is quite small. Horizontally its no problem.
I guess I'm suggesting that smll kids on the floor looking up will get a far duller picture than people sat on the sofa at the right height.
I have the older 43PJ toshiba and the TV stand is mandatory (unless you already have one) to get a decent viewing height.
trooper1212
16-01-2002, 12:34
Originally posted by pip&pop
Oh, and remember how they told you pythagoras' theorem at school wouldn't be useful, well it is here.
On a 4:3 set. Measure the width of picture. Divide by 4 and multiply by 5 to give the viewing diagonal. (width * 1.25)
On a 16:9, measure the width and divide by 16 and multiply by 18.36 to get the viewing diagonal. (width * 1.147)
very useful, however a better tip would be to just measure the diagonal when you were measuring the width :)
T.
Slippery
16-01-2002, 17:07
The Toshiba always seems to be enar by when the conversation is RPTV's. It would seem it is a safe bet, but, are there any downsides to the Tosh, or RPTV's in general to watch for when auditioning a particular RPTV??
experience of Comet/Tempo etc has shown that they provide a lousy signal have you stand so are at a lousy viewing angle and they do not sort the convergence of the TV out.
All in all I wouldn't have bought one if I had relied on my 'auditions' solely. Take care wiring/setting up though and there is almost a 'transparent' clarity.
See the big Tosh/Sony thread for other snippets of info..
Oh and Brad was trying to make sense of 43inch 4:3 vs 40 inch 16x9 with the same width.
Since he ddn't know the width 43 * 1.147/1.25 = equiv 16:9 diagonal on the 43 incher ~ 39.5 inch
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