View Full Version : Jumping ship, whats my Toshiba HD-A1 worth?
As above, any ideas?
Thanks,
LouBarlow
23-03-2007, 18:28
About 3-fiddy.
About 3-fiddy.
For a US A1 with step down?
I was thinking about £170inc
For a US A1 with step down?
I was thinking about £170inc
For the A1 and a stepdown without any HD-DVDs probably about right, the last few sold on AVF (including my own) were around this figure plus whatever the films were worth being sold with the player.
havent they just dropped the price on this model in the us?
Looks like I'll have to go for £150inc of £130 collected...
Cheers for the feed back.
Looks like I'll have to go for £150inc of £130 collected...
Cheers for the feed back.
ill take it off your hands....Ill put a wanted ad in the classifieds if ur interested
ill take it off your hands....Ill put a wanted ad in the classifieds if ur interested
Sounds good, let me know when the ad it there.
PS. selling my films her http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7207977#post7207977
Now listed in classifieds here http://thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=7209593#post7209593
DeadKenny
25-03-2007, 15:42
If I were you I'd have kept it and just got a Blu-Ray player in addition. Chances are you'll be jumping back in a years time ;)
If I were you I'd have kept it and just got a Blu-Ray player in addition. Chances are you'll be jumping back in a years time ;)
Its a good thing you're not him! :D
Chances are you'll be jumping back in a years time ;)
Chance are HD DVD will be in an even worse position by that time! But hey, keep believing :thumbs:
thescrounger
27-03-2007, 00:14
Blurays gonna be in trouble when the next generation players come out in october and early adopters discover they've been ******.
RobDickinson
27-03-2007, 03:57
Format war is far from over peeps.
Niceguygeoff
27-03-2007, 13:48
I'll be selling my HD-DVD player too. But that's only because I'm getting a 2nd gen model :D
I love HD and I've been sorely tempted by Blu-ray, but the hardware prices are just too high for machines that are quite simply not up to spec.
roll on dual format - hahahahaha - its a bit like the dvd-r and dvd+r , vhs, betamax wars again !
Blurays gonna be in trouble when the next generation players come out in october and early adopters discover they've been ******.
The PS3 is fully updatable with all the new features and I'm sure the other players are to some degree too! Yet another angry i can't take it post :oh-hum:
Grandmaster
28-03-2007, 08:23
PS3? Yes. Other gen one Blu-ray players? No.
Reps from the BDA have confirmed this. Stuff like picture in picture just isn't possible on first gen BD hardware as there's only one video decoder. Network capabilities aren't possible when the first gen BD hardware doesn't have a network socket. Firmware updates cannot magic up missing hardware.
The BDA has mandated that all new players should have these things (which will bring BD into line with HD DVD) but that doesn't come into force until Q4 this year, but there's nothing to stop manufacturers making old hardware right up until the deadline, then selling after the deadline. It's all a bit messy.
Yet another "can't believe that Blu-ray isn't anything but perfect" post.
PS3? Yes. Other gen one Blu-ray players? No.
Reps from the BDA have confirmed this. Stuff like picture in picture just isn't possible on first gen BD hardware as there's only one video decoder. Network capabilities aren't possible when the first gen BD hardware doesn't have a network socket. Firmware updates cannot magic up missing hardware.
The BDA has mandated that all new players should have these things (which will bring BD into line with HD DVD) but that doesn't come into force until Q4 this year, but there's nothing to stop manufacturers making old hardware right up until the deadline, then selling after the deadline. It's all a bit messy.
Yet another "can't believe that Blu-ray isn't anything but perfect" post.
Thats why I said to some degree, i'm talking about BD-Java in general not all the picture in picture features.
The PS3 is fully updatable which accounts for a large majority of Blu-ray players, so whats the problem?
To be honest, this picture in picture gimmick does nothing for me. They should just release the movies anyway, as most people are saying. I do appreciate though that some people love these gimmicks. But overall, Blu-ray has more studios, more movies, more hardware, better hardware (bar PIP) and most importantly better sales (even in the UK now with the PS3 launch). It is time for HD-DVD to give in now rather than annoying owners in a years time.
Its the same story all the time in the HD-DVD defence. "Blu-ray uses MPEG 2 mainly", "50gb discs are a myth", "HD-DVD is selling better", "HD-DVD is 50% cheaper", all these are now redundent and soon it'll be the same with BD-Java PIP.
thescrounger
28-03-2007, 13:32
But overall, Blu-ray has more studios, more movies, more hardware, better hardware (bar PIP) and most importantly better sales (even in the UK now with the PS3 launch). It is time for HD-DVD to give in now rather than annoying owners in a years time.
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Sorry but with cheap HD-DVD supermarket players on the way and a few nifty HD-DVD exclusives it could be sayonaya BD, don't rule it out. The PS3 has been a universal failure.
LouBarlow
28-03-2007, 14:46
The PS3 is fully updatable with all the new features and I'm sure the other players are to some degree too! Yet another angry i can't take it post :oh-hum:
I suggest you research the matter a little more thoroughly, and take off those blinkers, as Sony themselves are admitting that the PS3 will be outdated come November, in terms of BR movie playback - firmware updates cannot fix everything.
You really do need some hobbies or something Gareth, as your championing of a disc format, is getting scarily obsessive now :dork:
I suggest you research the matter a little more thoroughly, and take off those blinkers, as Sony themselves are admitting that the PS3 will be outdated come November, in terms of BR movie playback - firmware updates cannot fix everything.
You really do need some hobbies or something Gareth, as your championing of a disc format, is getting scarily obsessive now :dork:
I've got way too many hobbies :dork: oh btw, likewise :D
LouBarlow
28-03-2007, 15:15
I own both Gareth so have no allegiance either way - would like to see HD-DVD win out though, as it tends not to have obsessive, blinkered fans, who would probably cry if BluRay failed.
More studio and more movies but more turds than I can believe - I'm actually struggling to find Blu-rays of actual technical quality. Zero extras and not 100% quality on the video side according to the reviews I'm reading for so many of the current discs is doing my head in!
More studio and more movies but more turds than I can believe - I'm actually struggling to find Blu-rays of actual technical quality. Zero extras and not 100% quality on the video side according to the reviews I'm reading for so many of the current discs is doing my head in!
There are plenty of technically decent movies out there. Maybe you're buying the wrong ones? Are you saying that reviews say they're good buy you don't find that the case, if so which hardware are you using?
This thread has gone way off topic, btw!
I own both Gareth so have no allegiance either way - would like to see HD-DVD win out though, as it tends not to have obsessive, blinkered fans, who would probably cry if BluRay failed.
I think you've got the two mixed up! I think both sides are equally as ardent but the majority of HD DVD owners spin everything to suit their dream not to mention outright lies or misinformation! How can you call Gareth blinkered and yet claim Sony have admitted the PS3 can't be updated to either 1.1 or 2.0 compliance? Either you know this is untrue and post it anyway or you simply read someone else's lie and accepted it as gospel.
I don't see you accusing thescrounger of being blinkered either, why the double standards?
The PS3 has been a universal failure.
Define "universal failure" please. It clearly differs from my definition!
saltysam
29-03-2007, 00:32
The PS3 is the only console launch i can recall being able to amble into a store on launch day and pick up off the shelf.So i don't think it's been a roaring success for sony.and i own one btw.
Yeah that was stupid of them making enough. They should have just shipped the 165000 they sold in the first 3 days, got the record and sold out. Of course it would still be spun constantly by both sides.
LouBarlow
29-03-2007, 04:22
I think you've got the two mixed up! I think both sides are equally as ardent but the majority of HD DVD owners spin everything to suit their dream not to mention outright lies or misinformation!
You are talking about yourself here aren't you? Admit it.
I've never heard so much ******** spill from the mouth of one man :lol:
As has been pointed out (though you appear to have missed it so I'll say again) the functionality of the PS3 as a BR player, will be outdated come the revisions due later this year, and no firmware updates (or praying) can make up for missing hardware.
Any chance we can keep this on topic and keep the little digs at each other off the forums.
Nostromo
29-03-2007, 10:58
This is fun!
:clap: :clap: Go HD-DVD Ra, Ra, Ra :clap: :clap:
The PS3 is the only console launch i can recall being able to amble into a store on launch day and pick up off the shelf.So i don't think it's been a roaring success for sony.and i own one btw.
That a little bit more to do with the fact that sony delayed the Euro release so they could ramp up production and meet demand.
PS3 certainly did "sell out" in the US and Japan.
I think the figures were Sony had 250,000 PS3's for the UK launch. By comparison MS had 100,000 XB360's shipped at launch.
rustybin
29-03-2007, 13:14
I don't know anyone who's bothered getting one, and me and my mates jump on most bandwagons.
I've yet to see a game I fancy on the PS3 - unlike when I was desperate for the PS1 to play Tomb Raider or the PS2 to play Tekken Tag or Ridge Racer.....the Xbox360 is far better at the momnet.
Might feel differently in 6 months when the first decent games are released.
andrewjs
29-03-2007, 13:20
Ive had both consoles and must say the ps3 is better build quality and quiter on movie playback and better sound quality
There are plenty of technically decent movies out there. Maybe you're buying the wrong ones? Are you saying that reviews say they're good buy you don't find that the case, if so which hardware are you using?
This thread has gone way off topic, btw!
I'm looking on reviews for discs which are technically excellent to go along with wanting to see the film also - the back catalogue releases seem to be fairly average and stripped of extras and the feature releases are way too close to £20 for my liking. Layer Cake is the only that is striking out to me as being cheap but an excellent HD production of a good film.
fattyboombatty
30-03-2007, 14:40
Yeah that was stupid of them making enough. They should have just shipped the 165000 they sold in the first 3 days, got the record and sold out. Of course it would still be spun constantly by both sides.
they didn't sell anywhere near that amount. over 20,000 pre-orders were cancelled, yet sony decided to count them anyway. :cuckoo:
Wookie Returns
09-04-2007, 10:27
I can promise you that Sony's sales figures of the PS3 are definately a bit fishy.
We had 77 in stock on launch day. We sold five. We still have only sold about 30.
On the other hand XBox 360 keeps on selling, and by God we wish we had Nintendo Wii's! We could probably sell 20 of those to each PS3 :nuts: .
Off topic I know, but the PS3 has a lot to prove IMHO.
Sprout Crumble
09-04-2007, 18:40
That a little bit more to do with the fact that sony delayed the Euro release so they could ramp up production and meet demand.
PS3 certainly did "sell out" in the US and Japan.
I think the figures were Sony had 250,000 PS3's for the UK launch. By comparison MS had 100,000 XB360's shipped at launch.
PS3 'sold-out' in the US and Japan because of initially limited quantities. Crap sales turned that around to a stock excess in the space of a fortnight and a projected continuation of poor sales meant that Sony switched over to PAL production sooner than expected; hence the large launch availability.
Still doesn't alter the fact that the PS3 has performed spectacularly badly compared to what Sony, as well as most pundits, had it down for.
By comparison, the XB360 was sought after for months afterwards and the Wii has followed suit. Those are sucesses, though personally I believe the Wii will, like the Gamecube, run out of steam when more and more gaps appear in the software line-up.
I have neither of the formats but would get great satisfaction in seeing Sony dumped on its ass. HD-DVD was an approved standard which could have had all the manufacturers pulling in solid money from a secure userbase not afraid to buy because of format worries. Now both are suffering and will continue to do so long enough for them to lose out to alternative methods of distribution. Congratulations scumbags. The markets been damaged so you could release a format practically identical to the one you proposed to replace. Utterly pointless.
DeadKenny
09-04-2007, 19:43
Pure and simple, Sony have priced the PS3 far too high and pushed too hard to include Blu-Ray. Should have ditched Blu-Ray and supplied it later as an add on like the 360.
I know they wanted to promote Blu-Ray, but at what cost? Really, the majority of PS3 owners who even remotely are interested in the Blu-Ray functionality are probably looking at it as only a curiosity, tied in with a single purchase of a title they can get with their coupon (which I bet we don't get in the UK). The coupon in fact is responsible for the inflated sales of Blu-Ray titles anyway. It's just PS3 owners cashing their coupons in.
Frankly though as a UK consumer I would be very annoyed at having just about the most expensive version of the PS3 sold to us, with poor quality components than the rest of the world (lack of PS2 chips etc) and to be asked to buy a bloody remote control on top!!
Was watching a 'gaming' show on TV the other day and whilst they raved about the PS3 and it's games, none of the games reviewed apart from the one flagship game (I forget the name. Boring race game by the look of it, just with nice graphics), even looked anything like just a PS2/Xbox game ported to PS3 with graphics that don't look much improved. They also had a segment saying that PC gaming is where it's at. The stuff they showed of modern PC games in fact blew the crap out of anything the PS3 and Xbox 360 has combined (and is probably cheaper and has far better online support).
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