View Full Version : Raiders Of The Lost Ark - BBC1 - 8pm
Lee Brown
10-01-2002, 12:48
From the BBC's website
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
Thu 10 Jan, 20:00 - 21:50 110 mins
Indiana Jones (Harrison Ford), is hired to find the Ark of the Covenant, the supposed resting place of the tablets on which the Ten Commandments were written. Contains strobe lighting. W/S. [1981]
Subtitles widescreen Stereo
Be nice to finally see Raiders in some form of widescreen tonight. I'm assuming it'll be anamorphic 1.85:1 on ITVDigital instead of the 2.35:1 it was shot in though.
SithLordSi
10-01-2002, 13:35
Do you think there's a chance they'll show it on terrestrial TV in w/s? BBC have started to do that a bit recently...
Joe Pasquale
10-01-2002, 13:51
Probably, but at 14:9 like most things on there.
George vader
10-01-2002, 14:22
EEKK!
Almost forget
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I've been looking forward to this for weeks then what happens??? ....my g/f's dad gets taken into hospital for an op on his aneurysm [sp?] and we've got to visit tonight especially :mad: [the op was yesterday and he's in excellent shape].
is that the one with the monkey brains or the melting germans? Either way itll probably be cut.
Originally posted by Spam
is that the one with the monkey brains or the melting germans? Either way itll probably be cut.
The melting Germans
Mr Flibble
10-01-2002, 14:50
I'm having to tape Indy because of edited Friends starting on the same night.
Mrs Flibbles' favourite show - even taping off Sky Digital gives an arse picture :( I'll watch the first hour though :)
Davester
10-01-2002, 14:57
Originally posted by mr.nick
I've been looking forward to this for weeks then what happens??? ....my g/f's dad gets taken into hospital for an op on his aneurysm [sp?] and we've got to visit tonight especially :mad: [the op was yesterday and he's in excellent shape].
Break up!
I will be too busy though watching S6 Buffy instead of ROTL and Friends!! :D
I'm looking forward to watching this as I haven't seen it for a good few years now.
rodrubber
10-01-2002, 15:22
One of my faves. When is the trilogy being released on DVD?
Mr Flibble - Friends is repeated on Sunday!
Typical innit - three good things on at the same time... ROTLA, Buffy and ER.
:mad:
It says in next weeks TVTimes that IJATOD will be the video version, which was cut for violence. I think it was the two kids fighting.
wide_inside
10-01-2002, 18:53
wasn't it the bit where he pulls that blokes heart out?
"Kali Ma Shakti de," and all that.
imdb says
"The UK versions have lost some of the gorier moments to get a PG certificate. These include cuts to the hand in the chest scene, and of the victim in flames shortly after that. The BBFC refused to restore these scenes for a later boxed set release because Spielberg had not given his personal permission. It thus remains as a cut PG in all releases."
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wide_inside
10-01-2002, 19:22
Also quite interesting to note that the widescreen is awfull quality, and the 4:3 is clean as a whistle. Looks like they let the work experience boy do the transfer.
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Originally posted by wide_inside
Also quite interesting to note that the widescreen is awfull quality, and the 4:3 is clean as a whistle. Looks like they let the work experience boy do the transfer.
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just thinking the same thing, where`s all the colour gone !!
wide_inside
10-01-2002, 19:28
Not much we can do, bar take the tape out and have a look. We've got the engineers taking a look now.
Watch the 4:3 instead, it's fine.
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Can anyone say for the umpteenth time 'how badly we need these on DVD?'!!!!!!!!111111
It looks awful.
Originally posted by wide_inside
Also quite interesting to note that the widescreen is awfull quality, and the 4:3 is clean as a whistle. Looks like they let the work experience boy do the transfer.
wide
I've noticed this a few times with films on BBC, terrestrial is fine on colour but 4:3 and digital is widescreen but apalling colour. Looks like I'm going to have to wait for those illusive DVDs to watch it properly.
Fever Dawg
10-01-2002, 19:30
Watch out for the glass partition between Harrison Ford and the Cobra when he falls in the tomb.
A classic movie ****-up ! !
wide_inside
10-01-2002, 19:44
Watch out for the glass partition between Harrison Ford and the Cobra when he falls in the tomb.
That they for some reason put in the trailer for it!
wide
So good to see this film again, forgot how good it is.
1981? Ah the days when if you needed a tomb full of snakes, you got a tomb full of snakes. None of this CGI nonsense.
What ever happened to the female lead in this?
Boink!;)
George vader
10-01-2002, 20:27
1981? Ah the days when if you needed a tomb full of snakes, you got a tomb full of snakes. None of this CGI nonsense.
:D :D :D :p
wide_inside
10-01-2002, 20:40
Loads of snakes and some hosepipe actually. Look closely.
wide
Hosepipe yeah, but it's real hosepipe, none of this CGI hosepipe nonsense!
:D
Jimmyboy
10-01-2002, 21:04
Wasnt this spose to be in WS ?.
It was 4:3 on my set.
What ever happened to the female lead in this?
Check IMDB!
Well this is far better then the mummy and tomb raider!
It needs some work - the print was poor, although the best I've seen of this film (sky digital)
wide_inside
10-01-2002, 22:01
Wasnt this spose to be in WS ?.
Widescreen on digital, 4:3 on analogue.
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Kit_Taylor
10-01-2002, 22:04
Top film, but I'd forgotten how bloody violent it was. PG?! I raised an eyebrow at a lot of stuff, such as Indy punching that bare chested Nazi's face in and seeing all the blood splatter on the plane as he gets caught in the propellor, the Nazi being crushed under a truck and of course the infamous, child traumatising melting nazis.
Good clean sadistic fun :)
Idle Child
10-01-2002, 22:05
Originally posted by Lee Brown
widescreen
my ass widescreen!
at first i saw it formatted for the opener and thought "at last...", but then after settling down, BBC pull off the pan & scam trick, as always. :mad:
also, i gotta say: Raiders = not that great anymore, a good movie, but not an awesome one. there were momments when i found myself yawning. I think everyone's seen Raiders so many times (over various holliday seasons) that it fails to excite. we all know the movie scene for scene and the action isn't the most thrilling anymore. it gets plenty of accolades, but Raiders has dropped down some in my estimation. it's got tedious crowd scenes an d the actual combat stuff Indy/stunt double/harrison ford barely lands any punches, you can tell Speilberg's got his angles all wrong.
still, love the bit when:
unkowingly the lady hits the wounded Indy in the face with the swinging mirror. love that sound "clunk", even though it makes the mirror sound like a tray still makes me laugh
dunno why i even bothered using those tags! ^
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stantheman
10-01-2002, 22:06
Oh Dear!
Saw this tonight on my mates 43" rear projection!!!!!!
Did they find the print in ITV's dustbin?
wide_inside
10-01-2002, 22:12
"unsuitable for TX" it's getting sent away to the place where the bad little children go.
Like I say, the 4:3 was OK though.
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Its hard to believe sometimes that some of the tat that gets released on DVD these days and we still can't get our hands on a half decent version of Indiana Jones Trilogy on DVD ... Time to lookout the LaserDisc (Ask your parents :nuts: ) versions again and give 'em a whirl on the old gramaphone ..... sorry Laserdisc player :clap: :clap:
Davester
10-01-2002, 23:31
Originally posted by rodrubber
One of my faves. When is the trilogy being released on DVD? The million $ question. No one knows but Baps has a nice "fake" ROTLA cover photo to post when he wants to tease newbies!
Walrus Man
11-01-2002, 06:16
I haven't seen this film for many years so I can't remember exactly, but I thought there was a scene where Indy just makes it under the slowly closing door, thens realises he's dropped his hat, so reaches back under to get it.
Did I imagine this? Or maybe I blinked and missed it last night?
Or is it from another Indy film?
BTW the picture (on NTL) was awful, and had a large white line down the screen all the way through!
Lets hope the eventual DVD will feature a much cleaned-up transfer.
Walrus Man,
I think the scene you mention is from Temple of Doom.
Indy and the kid just manage to escape from a room where the ceiling is lowering and all the doors are closing.
Great...full of suspense!
I must admit, I realised last night just how long it must have been since I saw it - I hardly remembered much of it!
I also thought the hat scene was part of the beginning scene - obviously not! However, that whole 'big rolling ball/gold head thing' scene just kept me thinking of Bart and Homer when Bart steals Homers change jar! Classic stuff!
I saw an old print at the cinema in November and I can categorically state that the "Reaching for the Hat" scene IS in Raiders. Didn't watch it on t.v. last night so I have no idea why the deemed to cut it out.
Richard2001
11-01-2002, 08:33
I recorded this on my Sky+, but other forums are saying the quality of the print used was attrocious. If so that's a real bummer as I've so looking forward to seeing it again
Hateincarnate
11-01-2002, 08:46
Sorry but the reaching for the hat bit is in Temple not Raiders - the bit where they're in the room of spikes in temple is the hat.
In raiders theres the bit where he jumps over the hole at the begining and has to reach under the door to get his whip---i loved that bit when i was a kid
Mr Flibble
11-01-2002, 08:48
I watched the opening scenes via digital, but had to tape it via terrestrial.
Anyway - the print looked awful - and I mean AWFUL. I'll watch it over the weekend hopefully, but everything just looked so dark and poor - lets hope there's better transfers used for the next two films :)
silverpenguin7
11-01-2002, 08:51
Originally posted by Walrus Man
BTW the picture (on NTL) was awful, and had a large white line down the screen all the way through!
Yep, same thing on Sky. Bloody annoying it was as well :mad:
Haven't seen these films in years so it was good to watch again but like everyone has said, the print was sooooooooooo bad!!:eek:
Originally posted by Hateincarnate
Sorry but the reaching for the hat bit is in Temple not Raiders - the bit where they're in the room of spikes in temple is the hat.
In raiders theres the bit where he jumps over the hole at the begining and has to reach under the door to get his whip---i loved that bit when i was a kid
You are right, I'm getting my damned accessories mixed up here - it is a whip that he reaches for under the door, not a hat!
Oh what a fool am I:nuts:
enjoyable, but i found the music irritating, every action scene is prefaced with the opening motif, got on my nerves more than the intel pentium jingle (almost).
But, when is this coming out on DVD????
Sb
robbiejm
11-01-2002, 16:53
Originally posted by Boink!
So good to see this film again, forgot how good it is.
1981? Ah the days when if you needed a tomb full of snakes, you got a tomb full of snakes. None of this CGI nonsense.
Exactly, imagine if that movie was made today, it would just be a soul-less cgi fest, think Tomb Raider only with a better script and superior acting.
The snake 'pit' is just one scene which would look awful in cgi, but I shudder to think just how bad the giant rolling ball at the start would look if Ford was superimposed over 'blue screen'. Not to mention all the filmed on location stuff, as opposed to filmed on sets in a warehouse in Hampshire or something.
They really don't make 'em like that any more. :(
Steve1977
11-01-2002, 19:01
I dont think it would be souless at all. It would have 'more' of the "wow" kinda of shots....such as the matte painting of boxes at the end in the warehouse.
Of the plane that isnt really in water, but using matte paintings and super imposing water over it they made it look like it was in water. (Plus all the ILM guys walking into the plane)
You'd just have more of that stuff. :)
tj_director
11-01-2002, 19:57
i love the look of those 80's matte paintings, i wish they used it a bit more in films today -- i know it doesn't look real, but i grew up on that stuff, and i just love it!! it gives the films a real comic book feel :)
still my favourite Trilogy.. until LOTR is finshed.
Steve1977
11-01-2002, 21:49
I never realised until recently that the warehouse was a matte painting. flawless effects by ILM. :)
Originally posted by martinb
enjoyable, but i found the music irritating, every action scene is prefaced with the opening motif, got on my nerves more than the intel pentium jingle (almost).
What?! How could you possibly find John Williams' wonderful Raiders score irritating?! To me, every single note of music is genius, and the film would not be half the film it is without it. (And I'm sure Spielberg would back me up on this! :) )
Hrumph!
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