View Full Version : Air Crash Investigation - New Series - 1st March on National Geographic
moviesuk
31-01-2007, 22:32
Its back again with 5 new episodes and loads from the old series mixed in.
The new ones can be seen on the following dates (Alan B, set those reminders).
All Engines Failed
On 24 June 1982, the engines of British Airways Flight 009 stopped. Minutes before it crashed into the sea, the engines roared back to life, saving all onboard.
Dates & Times
Mon April 9th @ 18:00
Tues April 10th @ 00:00
Sun April 15th @ 14:00
Wed April 25th @ 15:00
Miracle Escape
On 2 August 2005, Air France Flight 358 skidded off the runway in Toronto. An engine caught fire, trapping more than 300 passengers on the plane. How did they escape?
Dates & Times
Mon April 9th @ 19:00
Wed April 10th @ 01:00
Tues April 24th @ 15:00
Fire Fight
When a fire erupted onboard Air Canada Flight 797, the pilot made an emergency landing. Flames engulfed the plane when the doors opened, killing half of the passengers.
Dates & Times
Mon April 9th @ 20:00
Tues April 10th @ 09:00
Tues April 10th @ 15:00
Thurs April 26th @ 15:00
Blind Landing
On 6 August 1997, Korean Air Flight 801 crashed shortly before landing, killing over 200 people. A catalogue of errors by the pilot and airline caused the deaths.
Dates & Times
Mon April 9th @ 21:00
Tues April 10th @ 16:00
Fri April 27th @ 15:00
Hidden Danger
When a China Airlines flight hit a jet stream and plummeted 30,000ft in just a few minutes, the crew and passengers feared the worst. How did they all survive?
Dates & Times
Mon April 9th @ 22:00
Tues April 10th @ 17:00
Don't forget you have the +1 hour channel too :thumbs:
Gazza.
You star! :clap:
Am I really a :dork: for adding these into my pda to remind me?
I love this program :D
moviesuk
31-01-2007, 22:41
You star! :clap:
Am I really a :dork: for adding these into my pda to remind me?
I love this program :D
I find them very interesting.... seen them all bar these new ones.
scooby snacks
31-01-2007, 23:19
I find them very interesting.... seen them all bar these new ones.
Same here, according to wikipedia I've seen them all apart from 'wounded bird'. Find it odd that due to the high cycle of repeats, I still haven't seen it.
Great program. Looking for the 'All engines failed' ep. 747 :luv:
Shame they're not being shown in HD
(Alan B, set those reminders).
:D :thumbs:
I probably will not get to see them all first time around but as they get repeated a million times I am sure I will see them all in time.
Rabbi of Caerbannog
01-02-2007, 08:01
Great program. Looking for the 'All engines failed' ep. 747 :luv:
There was an article in one of the papers recently about this one. Will not say what happended etc, but I will be watching these as I find them fascinating.
Mrs Rabbi thought it was a bit strange as I had a spate of watching these in the few months before our honeymoon and flying to Hawaii :D
Excellent stuff, really like this program.
Raigmore
01-02-2007, 08:53
I know it sounds a bit morbid, but I like this programme too. I think they did a good one of the horrific Tenerife double Jumbo runway crash of 1977.
LiviLion
01-02-2007, 15:24
One of my faves too,
and I fly most weeks as well.
For the pilots (Eric Moody) tale of the 'all engines failed' look here and download the pdf's:
http://www.ericmoody.com/
LL
xraystan
01-02-2007, 15:45
Shame they're not being shown in HD
Are they really no on National Geo HD? That's a shame as they have episodes of Seconds From Disaster in HD.
Excellent stuff, really like this program.
Now that does surprise me :D
I love the speeded up credits at the end...
Are they really no on National Geo HD? That's a shame as they have episodes of Seconds From Disaster in HD.
Not listed in DigiGuide as yet, just the old episodes. No doubt they'll appear on the HD channel at some point, but by then I will have seen them.
moviesuk
02-02-2007, 13:45
Just updated it with all the dates and times that are available for now. Also you have the +1 hour channel for each showing.
To miss any of the above you will need one hell of a social life ;)
I completely forgot about the +1 channel, I should be able to see them all now, that is I can remember !
Now that does surprise me :D
I watch these on planes quite happily :D
Thanks to the OP, just added these to my Sky+ planner :thumbs:
LiviLion
03-02-2007, 21:54
my thanks to the OP too. Series linked now.
I've never had the bottle to watch one of these on a plane yet.
LL
Does the series link work properly, and only record the new episodes?
"How did they escape?" "How did they survive?"
I thought this was Air CRASH Investigation not Air PhewThatWasACloseOne Investigation...
Just because people escape doesn't stop it from being a crash :?:
andybhoy
04-02-2007, 20:56
"How did they escape?" "How did they survive?"
I thought this was Air CRASH Investigation not Air PhewThatWasACloseOne Investigation...
Just watch the ones where people die then :thumbs:
I love these and find the ones where people survive to be the most interesting. I don't know if it was seconds from disaster or aircrash investigation but the one where the pilot got blown out of the windscreen of the plane and survived was about the best of the lot.
I don't know if it was seconds from disaster or aircrash investigation but the one where the pilot got blown out of the windscreen of the plane and survived was about the best of the lot.
That sounds amazing, I don't remember seeing that one. One that stands out for me and is very similar to this is the one where the plane's roof is ripped off and again they survive.
moviesuk
04-02-2007, 21:11
The trailer on Sky One just now said premiers @ 9PM and 10PM all week? Yet on the NG website it just lists the 5 episodes I have mentioned in the first post :shrug:
Think the pilot lost a few fingers due to frost bite, but apart from that relatively unscathed
The trailer on Sky One just now said premiers @ 9PM and 10PM all week? Yet on the NG website it just lists the 5 episodes I have mentioned in the first post :shrug:
I haven't seen the trailer but the mydigiguide website lists them the same as the NG website.
That sounds amazing, I don't remember seeing that one. One that stands out for me and is very similar to this is the one where the plane's roof is ripped off and again they survive.
It was a BA flight in a small rejoinal jet where the windscreen blew out sucking the captain out! Its a truely amazing story that one.
andybhoy
05-02-2007, 08:52
That sounds amazing, I don't remember seeing that one. One that stands out for me and is very similar to this is the one where the plane's roof is ripped off and again they survive.
A steward or stewards held his legs, s he was outside the cabin the whole way.
at one point they discuss letting him go (because they believe he's dead) but decide not to, in case he goes through the engine.
The one with the roof ripped off was also amazing - it's the ones where people survive that grab the imagination/interest.
scooby snacks
05-02-2007, 10:49
I found the Aero Peru 757 episode quite disturbing. To receive overspeed and stall warnings at the same time at night must have been horrible. Then when the cause was determined :eek:
cause: tape applied over over the pitot static tube whilst cleaning was not removed
I found the Aero Peru 757 episode quite disturbing. To receive overspeed and stall warnings at the same time at night must have been horrible. Then when the cause was determined :eek:
cause: tape applied over over the pitot static tube whilst cleaning was not removed
Yep, its horrific at times to think something so simple could cause that to happen.
I was watching the Discovery episode on Concorde disaster and it concluded that
it was probably a combination of a missing spacer not being fitted to the under carriage and a bad runway, and not the strip of metal that actually caused the trye to explode and the plane to veer off the runway (and so not get enough speed up to stay in the air which might of actually let them land again!)
And that was the beginning of the end for the great aircraft :(
scooby snacks
05-02-2007, 11:01
Yep, its horrific at times to think something so simple could cause that to happen.
I was watching the Discovery episode on Concorde disaster and it concluded that
it was probably a combination of a missing spacer not being fitted to the under carriage and a bad runway, and not the strip of metal that actually caused the trye to explode and the plane to veer off the runway (and so not get enough speed up to stay in the air which might of actually let them land again!)
And that was the beginning of the end for the great aircraft :(
I also watched the Concorde discovery programme yesterday. Two tragedies in one (the loss of the people and end of the plane).
I don't remember in any of the original reports saying it nearly stuck an Air France 747.
Just watch the ones where people die then :thumbs:
I love these and find the ones where people survive to be the most interesting. I don't know if it was seconds from disaster or aircrash investigation but the one where the pilot got blown out of the windscreen of the plane and survived was about the best of the lot.
I agree - its sometimes an incident you have not heard about because everybody survived
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Transat_Flight_236
was one such case -
fadeaway53
05-02-2007, 12:23
Yay, this is one of my favourite programs :thumbs:
The most memorable ones I can remember are the pilot letting his son take the controls & the courier plane hitting the passenger jet full of schoolchildren. That was a bad one :(
All of the new episodes sound interesting, just wish they would make more than 5 of them at a time.
Rabbi of Caerbannog
05-02-2007, 12:41
There was a Dutch one as well, a bit similar to Concorde. IIRC a KLM 747 took off from Amsterdam had problems shortly after and tried to turn back. Eventually dropped and ploughed into a block of flats :eek:
Can not remember what the problem was though :?:
Cheers op for the showing times. May have to juggle them around as I am sure it clashed with something else.
There was a Dutch one as well, a bit similar to Concorde. IIRC a KLM 747 took off from Amsterdam had problems shortly after and tried to turn back. Eventually dropped and ploughed into a block of flats :eek:
Can not remember what the problem was though :?:
Cheers op for the showing times. May have to juggle them around as I am sure it clashed with something else.
That was actually an ElAl 747-200 Cargo plane. Was a faulty fuse pin on the engine mount (metal fatigue)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Flight_1862
scooby snacks
05-02-2007, 13:56
That was actually an ElAl 747-200 Cargo plane. Was a faulty fuse pin on the engine mount (metal fatigue)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al_Flight_1862
Think that was a 'Seconds From Disaster' (also a good programme). Could be wrong though :thinking:
capricorn1
05-02-2007, 15:22
Just watch the ones where people die then :thumbs:
I love these and find the ones where people survive to be the most interesting. I don't know if it was seconds from disaster or aircrash investigation but the one where the pilot got blown out of the windscreen of the plane and survived was about the best of the lot.
that was a BAC One-Eleven and was due to an incorrectly fitted windscreen panel (wrong bolts used) as well as the design. The screen is bolted to the outside of the aircraft rather than to the the inside! Had it been the other way round then it wouldn't have failed as the cabin pressure wouldn't have been able to push it out. :dork:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Airways_Flight_5390
scooby snacks
05-02-2007, 16:53
All this talk of aeroplanes reminded me I had some aircraft photos from my last holiday. Thought this one was pretty cool.
http://img128.imageshack.us/img128/7500/img1158largewc1.jpg
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8863/img0738largeta2.jpg
Not been on many planes. Iirc so far its only been 737, Airbus 319, DC-10 and the one pictured above, which is BAE Systems Avro 146-RJ100 (definately the coolest :thumbs: )
Still haven't been on my favourite plane (747) so I always get a little envious when Kryten posts how reguarly he flies in them :razz: :lol:
moviesuk
07-02-2007, 17:29
I thought I would email National Geographic about their latest series of Air Crash Investigation. While I was at it, I asked about Seconds From Disaster and if there was anything on car crashes (yes I am addicted to this kind of TV).
anyway here was the nice reply that I received.
Thanks for your email and for your interest in the channel.
We do have more episodes for the new series of Air Crash Investigation coming up in the next few months. Please keep checking the website for further information.
The new series of Seconds from Disaster kicks off on Tuesday 13th March at 9pm and runs ever Tuesday there after until 10th April.
As it happens, we do have a programme all about car crashes; it is called Surviving A Car Crash and is premiering on Tuesday 27th February at 11pm.
We hope you continue to enjoy our programmes.
Kind Regards,
Nat Geo
scooby snacks
11-02-2007, 00:36
As usual, these new four episodes proved interesting viewing. I felt quite a bit of sympathy for the Air Canada DC-9 crew. Imo, they did they're best and to be met with such a scathing report from the FAA after the event ****** me off a bit. I thought the petition that was filed after was a fitting result.
It was also interesting to see the different descriptions of the events from the passengers. The brits on the BA 747 described it how it was, the French-Canadian chap on the Air France flight was very philosophical but the woman from the same flight was just annoying. Probably sounds harsh but after watching so many of these programmes, watching people being interviewed who have have lost loved ones conducted themselves in a far more gracious manner.
To be honest I'd not have been happy about being on the AF A340 one, simply because it was pilot error in the end I feel.
The BA one I remember but was good to see the final anatomy of it. Not watched the others yet, they are on my Sky+ for later.
As there was just 4 new episodes the advertising for these was a little misleading, as the adverts were saying that there were new episodes all week at 9 and 10pm.
moviesuk
11-02-2007, 12:05
As there was just 4 new episodes the advertising for these was a little misleading, as the adverts were saying that there were new episodes all week at 9 and 10pm.
I thought that too... but what they were meaning was new episodes but repeated like mad :)
5th new one is end of this month, and as in my previous post...with more to come in the following months :)
I will do my best to keep the first post updated where possible.
I will do my best to keep the first post updated where possible.
I know you will :thumbs:
It would be so much easier if they just showed a new episode on the same weekday each week, that way everybody will know when they are on.
moviesuk
11-02-2007, 14:33
I know you will :thumbs:
It would be so much easier if they just showed a new episode on the same weekday each week, that way everybody will know when they are on.
Which is what they will be doing with the new series of Seconds From Disaster next month :)
Mind you I am glad of all the repeats, as there is that much to watch at the moment.
fadeaway53
12-02-2007, 20:01
the French-Canadian chap on the Air France flight was very philosophical but the woman from the same flight was just annoying.
God wasn't she just :eek:
How bizarre was that light show thing on the BA flight? Now that would freak me out if I saw it from the cabin window. :eek:
moviesuk
12-02-2007, 20:06
God wasn't she just :eek:
How bizarre was that light show thing on the BA flight? Now that would freak me out if I saw it from the cabin window. :eek:
What was it the cabin crew said to the passengers when all the engines failed.... "a slight technical problem"...... SLIGHT!!!!! :eek:
maddogsuk
12-02-2007, 20:10
I watched the first series last year and now these and one question I need to ask is.... When the pilots are talking to the Air Traffic Controllers they use the term "Flight name i.e. Air Canada Flight 324 Heavy" What does the heavy part mean or am I miss hearing something?
moviesuk - thanks for your sterling work in idexing these.
Were there only four last week then? I got four on my sky+ but spen ages searching for the fifth with no luck :(
moviesuk
13-02-2007, 10:11
moviesuk - thanks for your sterling work in idexing these.
Were there only four last week then? I got four on my sky+ but spen ages searching for the fifth with no luck :(
The 5th one is at the end of this month :) then more to follow so NG tell me.
Also a 3 parter called How to Survive a Crash starts next week.
scooby snacks
13-02-2007, 10:51
I watched the first series last year and now these and one question I need to ask is.... When the pilots are talking to the Air Traffic Controllers they use the term "Flight name i.e. Air Canada Flight 324 Heavy" What does the heavy part mean or am I miss hearing something?
From what I remember being told, I think they affix the 'heavy' to the planes callsign when the weight of the aircraft exceeds 300,000lbs.
edit: according to wikipedia, the 'heavy' is also used for aircraft that can cause severe wake turbulence.
scooby snacks
13-02-2007, 10:55
God wasn't she just :eek:
How bizarre was that light show thing on the BA flight? Now that would freak me out if I saw it from the cabin window. :eek:
I thought the St.Elmo's fire looked beautiful from an outside perspective :) If i was on that flight it would have definately freaked me out, but not as much the flames pouring out the back of the engines :eek:
maddogsuk
27-02-2007, 19:31
Hidden Danger
When a China Airlines flight hit a jet stream and plummeted 30,000ft in just a few minutes, the crew and passengers feared the worst. How did they all survive?
Dates & Times
Tues Feb 27th @ 21:00
Don't forget you have the +1 hour channel too :thumbs:
Gazza.A bump for this one tonight. Only spotted it, browsing through digiguide.
fadeaway53
27-02-2007, 19:35
Nice one :thumbs:
Had completely forgotten about this one.
SeeWolfe
27-02-2007, 19:35
Thanks maddogsuk
Yeah cheers mate, thank god for the +1 channel :thumbs:
moviesuk
27-02-2007, 20:24
I have updated the first post. Will add more times/dates when I can get them. More new episodes coming in March by all accounts and a new series of Seconds From Disaster starting around March 13th (I hope that date is wrong).
EDIT: Just added 2 more dates for the latest one 'Hidden Danger'
Nice work as usual moviesuk, we will let you off not reminding us about tonight episode - this time :D
LeftHandedGuitarist
27-02-2007, 22:37
I thought the adverts for this show looked very interesting, but I'm not sure if I could bring myself to watch it, being that I always get a little freaked out when flying.
moviesuk
28-02-2007, 10:01
Nice work as usual moviesuk, we will let you off not reminding us about tonight episode - this time :D
Cheers Alan :)
Good job I don't work at MacDonald's, could have been close to losing a gold star then :)
moviesuk
28-02-2007, 10:02
I thought the adverts for this show looked very interesting, but I'm not sure if I could bring myself to watch it, being that I always get a little freaked out when flying.
I go to Florida every year and hate the flight, but can not help but be drawn in to these sort of disaster programmes.
The one on this week was not the China Airways one but the UA585 which crashed at COS and US427 into PIT. Not sure I want to be watching it as I go to COS a few times a year! Although after last time it was quite bumpy and a small plane so decided to fly to Denver and drive instead ;) But that was very shocking the actual cause of those crashes!
So when is the China Airways one on? My Sky+ says the one I am watching is the China Airways one but that is not the one I am seeing here!
moviesuk
28-02-2007, 20:35
The one on this week was not the China Airways one but the UA585 which crashed at COS and US427 into PIT. Not sure I want to be watching it as I go to COS a few times a year! Although after last time it was quite bumpy and a small plane so decided to fly to Denver and drive instead ;) But that was very shocking the actual cause of those crashes!
So when is the China Airways one on? My Sky+ says the one I am watching is the China Airways one but that is not the one I am seeing here!
I wonder if they got the description wrong? A Jet Stream was involved in this but not the main cause of the crash.
To be honest I found this one very gripping...
To be honest I found this one very gripping...
This one has been on before as I remember that English bloke and the fact that he removed his shoes. National Geographic don't make watching these very easy with both their scheduling and then seemingly airing different episodes to what is advertised.
This one has been on before as I remember that English bloke and the fact that he removed his shoes.
:?: I didn't see that in this one.
:?: I didn't see that in this one.
I was watching at 10pm on the +1 channel, and they definitely put the caption up at the start stating it was the "Blind Landing" episode. I don't think this one was a new one.
I am totally confused now, the one I recorded was on the +1 on Tuesday night (as per OP's post) and was billed as the China Airways one but was the one I mentioned above.
Blind Landing was on as a repeat I think too?
LiviLion
01-03-2007, 08:55
I am totally confused now, the one I recorded was on the +1 on Tuesday night (as per OP's post) and was billed as the China Airways one but was the one I mentioned above.
Blind Landing was on as a repeat I think too?
Tuesdays was the 737 one not the china airways one. The description in Sky+ was wrong.
First time I've seen the 737 one as well. Quite interesting. Also a good job they eventually found the cause given the number of 737's in the skies.
LL
Also a good job they eventually found the cause given the number of 737's in the skies.
LL
Totally, this could have actually bankrupted the whole airline industry pretty much if they were forced to ground all the 737's worldwide! There are over 10,000 of them in service over the years (up to now, obviously less back then) and are the core of a lot of fleets.
In comparisson there are only 3700 or so 747's ever made, 2500 757's, 2200 767's, 650 777's. There have been more 737's than any other commercial aircraft made over the years!
moviesuk
12-03-2007, 17:25
All updated with new dates and times just in case anyone has missed any :)
There are supposed to be some new episodes... no sign of any yet though. I am sort of guessing they might appear after the new run of Seconds From Disaster which starts March 13th.
scooby snacks
12-03-2007, 22:33
All updated with new dates and times just in case anyone has missed any :)
There are supposed to be some new episodes... no sign of any yet though. I am sort of guessing they might appear after the new run of Seconds From Disaster which starts March 13th.
Seconds From Disaster tomorrow, investigating the crashes of 2 DeHavialland Comets.
moviesuk
13-03-2007, 10:48
Seconds From Disaster tomorrow, investigating the crashes of 2 DeHavialland Comets.
See my other thread with all the details http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7180437&postcount=1
maddogsuk
09-04-2007, 19:34
Did anybody catch the Hidden Danger episode that aired on the 30th March? Just spotted it's on again this evening for those like me who missed the previous airing's.
Yeah, that's the Korean air one wasn't it that crashed into a mountain side?
I still have not seen that China Airways one that was supposed to be on, I guess that was put back to later in the year?
fadeaway53
10-04-2007, 07:11
I still have not seen that China Airways one that was supposed to be on, I guess that was put back to later in the year?
No, same here. Everytime I put in on Sky Plus they showed another episode instead :thinking:
maddogsuk
10-04-2007, 07:31
Yeah, that's the Korean air one wasn't it that crashed into a mountain side?No this one was about 2 boeing planes. The first crashed nose down into a field errr can't say much else as I fell asleep.:(
Bearhorn
11-04-2007, 11:01
No this one was about 2 boeing planes. The first crashed nose down into a field errr can't say much else as I fell asleep.:(
That was the Boeing 737 episode.
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