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Lik Mearse
29-01-2007, 11:44
Fellow Listers,
Big changes ahoy at eBay. The new listing fees for books, DVDs and music:
Starting price Format Current Insertion Fee New Insertion Fee
£0.01 - £0.99 Auction-style £0.15 £0.05
£1.00 - £4.99 Auction-style £0.20 £0.10
£5.00 - £14.99 Auction-style £0.35 £0.10
£15.00 - £29.99 Auction-style £0.75 £0.10
£30.00 - £99.99 Auction-style £1.50 £0.10
£100.00 or more Auction-style £2.00 £0.10
£0.01 - £0.99 Buy It Now £0.15 £0.10
£1.00 - £4.99 Buy It Now £0.20 £0.10
£5.00 - £14.99 Buy It Now £0.35 £0.10
£15.00 - £29.99 Buy It Now £0.75 £0.10
£30.00 - £99.99 Buy It Now £1.50 £0.10
£100.00 or more Buy It Now £2.00 £0.10
So 10p to list - expect a flood of tat from now on - all the time.
And the new "simplified" final value fees in those categories:
Final Selling Price New Final Value Fee
£0.01 - £29.99 - 9% of the closing value balance
£30.00 - £599.99 - 9% of the closing value balance
£600 and over - 9% of the closing value balance
So FVFs have all gone from 5% to 9%. Oh dear.
Anyone delighted by this?
All detailed here:
New fee structure (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump2.php?url=http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=582776&mpre=http%3A//pages.ebay.co.uk/sell/importantinfo/)
Yours Expensively,
Lik
thudspud
29-01-2007, 11:54
I was going to post a thread about this. Not impressed.
Fees for 'technology' products look better.
Noticed this sneeky one at the bottom:
Reserve Fee Refunds
We will no longer refund Reserve Fees if an item sells. The cost and rules for using Reserve Fees will remain unchanged - the Reserve Fee is 2% of the reserve price (must be above £50), up to a maximum fee of £100.
I've had a quick look and the changes don't look too bad really. I'll have a good read through it all later.
They're having a hell of a bite these days. 10p listing, 9% final value, 25p + 3.4% Paypal. For running a website and telling people its their problem when anything goes wrong...
scandelous if you ask me. 9% flat final fee. Are they kidding me! Of course not, it's just another 'our way or no way' decision from Ebay. They have a monopoly more or less and now they are exploiting it.
Also noticed that sneaky reserve fee change at the bottom of the changes.
ugh, flat listing fees = overpriced crap flooding ebay
I thought 5% final listings fee was more than enough, let alone 9%.
Hemzoozlefluff
29-01-2007, 14:15
I list hardly any of that stuff so I don't really care as the new pricings for Computing and Consumer Electronics has gone down!
Keiron99
29-01-2007, 14:26
I dare say that sellers will just recover the extra fees by pushing up the delivery charges. It always used to annoy me when sellers did that - even though you know up front wht the charges are - but confess I do it myself now.
Bah, got lots of old PC games to sell! Still, this is motivation to get all those auctions written and put up before the 1st March deadline!
I've had a quick look and the changes don't look too bad really. I'll have a good read through it all later.
They have hit the DVD,Music and Game sections with a 9% final valuation fee. There are some good posts over on the ebay community boards on this.
ben.bayliss
29-01-2007, 15:11
How is it simplified when they're now charging different fees for different categories? Before at least once you knew the charges, you knew they applied across the board.
Those tables are VERY dodgy too - all scewed to show savings, when I imagine a lot of people will be worse off.
9% final value fee? How can they justify such HUGE charges? :mad:
thudspud
29-01-2007, 15:47
Those tables are VERY dodgy too - all scewed to show savings, when I imagine a lot of people will be worse off.
Completely agree, they are made to show just the benefits!!!
Is there anything to stop you listing everything in the cheaper 'technology' categories, very rarely I will search by catergory, just keyword search.
magicrat
29-01-2007, 19:51
Those savings tables are just bull!
Firstly, an example showing old and new fees when selling one Media item with the Buy It Now format, and assuming a typical Conversion Rate of 33% (assuming an item needs to be listed three times in order for it to be successfully sold):
They savings shown are if you have to relist the item three times, just looking at the buy it now fees, you are worse off with any item over £10 if it sells first time.
TigaSefi
29-01-2007, 19:53
Boy i am glad i don't use ebay anymore. i much prefer the classifieds here thanks.
magicrat
29-01-2007, 20:18
Just realised that they are conveniently forgetting the fact that you get listing fees refunded if an item sells after a relist.
sideshowbob
07-02-2007, 18:43
It's a bugger for the 9% FvF, but I've just worked out the maths on the standard fee structure (stuff I mostly sell):
£599.99 sale would have cost £20.10 in fees before the change, whereas after they'd be £12.67.
The reducing fee is far better for higher value items, but it's certainly not simple.
achapman
08-02-2007, 13:33
Looks like their Marketing people have been analysing the stat's.
10p listing days = massive increase in listings in the catagories above. This is a welcome upturn in revenue generation by increasing volume, but means a loss in revenue from goods sold that could potentially have been sold at a full cost listing price. So how do you eliminate the loss? Answer - increase the FVF on these items and reduce the listing cost for them so every day is a 10p listing day.
So, if like me you sell mainly your used DVDs and CDs on eBay and wait until a 10p listing day (every other week it seems) to do so, they've now got you for the cost of whether it's a cheap day or not all the time. Which sucks, basically.
eBay - there should be a competitor out there to kick their collective arses!
achapman
08-02-2007, 13:34
:mad: , by the way!
AdsterUK
08-02-2007, 13:44
I sell high value stuff in the computing section so I'm actually better off, but have to admit to near heart failure when I saw 9%.
Had they put 9% on the stuff I sell it would have put me out of business, my thin margins would be negative.
There is a 5p listing weekend this weekedn for CDs & DVDs with a Free Gallery picture thrown in. I'll be sticking a load on.
lennylenny
12-02-2007, 16:39
I can actually see this putting a lot of people out of business... I buy a lot on ebay and sell occasionally - but basically you are looking at needing to make over 15% on your purchase cost to turn any sort of profit once FVF and PayPal (also money to ebay) fees are taken into account. Anyone actually trying to give the buyer a good deal with slim profit margins but high volume will be put out of business which means a poor deal for us buyers too.
"Flooded with overpriced tatt" is a good way of summing up what will happen - all the quality and value is bound to ebb away now. Most annoyed. All this talk of savings based on 2 relists is nonsense too - must have sold 30-40 things on ebay myself and never once has the thing not been sold first time out. Rubbish.
AdsterUK
13-02-2007, 09:25
I was reminded of something I read a few months ago. The essence was that eBay were concerned about how many business sellers were using the site and the number of BiN listings was taking the site away from what originally made it a success. I can't help but think this is designed to deliberately deter business sellers.
I was reminded of something I read a few months ago. The essence was that eBay were concerned about how many business sellers were using the site and the number of BiN listings was taking the site away from what originally made it a success. I can't help but think this is designed to deliberately deter business sellers.
That is actually a fair point and somethign I was thinking of a few days ago. I am currently selling off a load of my vinyl and there are absoultely tons of Buy It Now records at stupd prices from the likes of Vinyl Tap & EIL.
Ok the new fees are a tad excessive but if it makes ebay far less business oriented then it will be a good thing.
KennyVader
13-02-2007, 13:04
I was reminded of something I read a few months ago. The essence was that eBay were concerned about how many business sellers were using the site and the number of BiN listings was taking the site away from what originally made it a success. I can't help but think this is designed to deliberately deter business sellers.
Hmmm nearly everything I buy from ebay now though is BINs from small businesses with good feedback. There are too many rogue sellers to take the risk with the auction items now.
If ebay knock out the power selling BIN merchants there won't be much point in me visiting.
lennylenny
01-03-2007, 17:05
Just thought I'd give this a quick bump to remind everyone that from today eBay are giving us the traditional pinch and a punch for the first of the month (that's pinching your wallet and giving you a quick smack in the gob for good measure)
Say "hello" to March and "goodbye" to any desired profits from entertainment listings.
Quick question regarding these new fees:
The 9% final value fee they take at the end, does that include the postage or is it just the selling price?
ie. if I sold something at a buy-it-now price of 1p & charged £3.99 for postage, would they take 9% of the £4 total, or just 9% of the 1p final value?
:help:
purepauluk
07-03-2007, 13:29
Quick question regarding these new fees:
The 9% final value fee they take at the end, does that include the postage or is it just the selling price?
ie. if I sold something at a buy-it-now price of 1p & charged £3.99 for postage, would they take 9% of the £4 total, or just 9% of the 1p final value?
:help:
They dont include the postage and packing, its just on the item your selling.
There is a 5p listing weekend this weekedn for CDs & DVDs with a Free Gallery picture thrown in. I'll be sticking a load on.
You can only qualify for this if you offer free postage on the item.
But back to the topic...9%???!!!! Sucks for me that my business is selling DVDs
> You can only qualify for this if you offer free postage on the item.
He was talking about the one last month that was not tied to free postage.
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