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studmeister

31-12-2006, 00:25

i have recently re-discovered my love for hard rock/metal after watching a documentary about pantera.

i bought a couple of their albums, along with downloading tracks from rage against the machine.

however, as i have neglected this genre for so long, i don't really know what other bands i should be listening to. i used to be a big iron maiden/faith no more fan back in the late 80s and early 90s and would borrow compilation tapes from schoolfriends (which had helloween, skid row etc.).

so people, who should i listen to next? i must stress that i dislike college rock like green day.

AWaite

31-12-2006, 00:49

Use www.last.fm for ideas.

meat puppet

31-12-2006, 01:13

High on Fire-Blessed Black Wings :D
Tool - Lateralus/Aenima/10 000 days
System of A Down - Toxicity
Mastodon - Leviathon/Blood Mountain
Deftones-White pony
Slayer - Seasons in the Abyss/ South of Heaven/Reign in Blood
Korn-Korn
Machine head-Burn My Eyes
Helmet-Meantime
Metallica-Black Album/Master of Puppets/Ride the lightning
Rage against the machine- Rage against the machine
Killing Joke-Killing Joke 2003
Bad Brains - I against I
Pearl Jam-Ten
Alice in Chains-Dirt
Janes Addiction-Ritual Lo Habitual
Clutch-Robot Hive Exodus
Sikth-The Trees are dead and dried out
Fear Factory-Demanufacture
Soundgarden-Bad Motorfinger
Rammstein-Sehnsucht
Boris-Pink
Melvins-Houdini
Queens of the Stoneage-Songs for the deaf
Killswitch Engage -Alive or just breathing /As Daylight Dies

Captain_Howdy666

31-12-2006, 12:47

meat puppet

31-12-2006, 13:00

Avoid any bands that include members having star tattoos about their person or really stupid, floppy fringes that cover half their face. Those bands will be ****, really, really ****.

Listen to:

Opeth - Blackwater Park
Slayer - Reign In Blood
Metallica - ...And Justice For All
Life of Agony - Ugly
Fear Factory - Demanufacture
Black Label Society - 1919 Eternal

I still cant do Opeth. I bought Blackwater and finally sold it, now I have Ghost Reveries and despite multiple listens and the strange feeling that I should like them......I just dont. I would rather listen to Coheed and Cambria-Burning Star IV. It seems strange that we like virtually the same music, but not Opeth, weird. Maybe its because I err towards the punk/pop end of the spectrum and that is towards the more serious, sober end.

Captain_Howdy666

31-12-2006, 21:00

I still cant do Opeth. I bought Blackwater and finally sold it, now I have Ghost Reveries and despite multiple listens and the strange feeling that I should like them......I just dont. I would rather listen to Coheed and Cambria-Burning Star IV. It seems strange that we like virtually the same music, but not Opeth, weird. Maybe its because I err towards the punk/pop end of the spectrum and that is towards the more serious, sober end.

I can understand that you wouldn't, they're not the easiest band to grasp. I'm not really a fan of punk, although I like Green Day, Rancid & early Offspring. Sum41, while I wouldn't buy their albums, they're pretty cool live and I enjoyed watching them the few times I've caught them at festivals.

John Murray

01-01-2007, 09:48

Robby

01-01-2007, 10:32

I've quite liked like The Haunted's 'The Dead Eye' lately and Mastodon's 'Blood Mountain'.

meat puppet

01-01-2007, 11:18

EXCELLENT LIST MP!

I would also add some more esoteric stuff I have enjoyed in 2006:

Cult of Luna
Isis
Scissorfight

I had a twinge about putting cult of luna on the list, then I thought it would have to have the Dillinger Escape Plan and before you know it your bordering on Black Metal....Agalloch, GSYBE etc

defweb

01-01-2007, 17:28

deftones - around the fur.

absolute classic

Questor

02-01-2007, 01:08

I'd also add Lacuna Coil to that list - any album, but Comalies is my fave (tho the cover of enjoy the silence from the most recent album is great!)

DjSatansfury

02-01-2007, 06:34

Fear Factory - Digitmortal
Children of Bodom - Follow the Reaper
Gothminister - Empire of Dark Salvation
In Flames - Clayman
KMFDM - Nihil
Korn - Greatest Hits Vol 1 (Saves getting individual albums, unless you wish to)
Rammstein - Sehnsucht (If you can withstand German vocals)
Oomph! - Unrein (Same as above)
Turmion Kätilöt - Hoitovirhe (Finnish Vocals)

More rockish :-

Theatre of Tragedy - Storm.
Stabbing Westward - Darkest Days
Staind - Dysfunction

I'll add more when i can think of them.

ian turner

02-01-2007, 10:10

Avoid any bands that include members having star tattoos about their person or really stupid, floppy fringes that cover half their face. Those bands will be ****, really, really ****.

But Miss Murder is a quality tune, especially with the extended video :thumbs:
Remember that when at metal gigs use anyone weighing half a ton and wearing a 25th anniversary gig t-shirt for a band they saw 25 years ago as something to bounce off when down the front since they are making most newer bands gigs look like a Status Quo nostalgia fest :gag:

Captain_Howdy666

02-01-2007, 11:20

Fear Factory - Digitmortal
Korn - Greatest Hits Vol 1 (Saves getting individual albums, unless you wish to)

Digimortal is Fear Factory's worst album by far, to the point where I think they've pretty much disowned it. To the OP: If you wanna get into Fear Factory, do not buy Digimortal.

Korn - Greatest hits, why would you buy this? Just buy the debut self titled and Life Is Peachy and forget they recorded anything else because the rest sucks.

DjSatansfury

02-01-2007, 11:50

Digimortal is Fear Factory's worst album by far, to the point where I think they've pretty much disowned it. To the OP: If you wanna get into Fear Factory, do not buy Digimortal.

Korn - Greatest hits, why would you buy this? Just buy the debut self titled and Life Is Peachy and forget they recorded anything else because the rest sucks.

The OP asked for suggestions, so im suggesting some. I personally think Digitmortal is excellent, and Concrete is by far the worst FF album out of them all. But horses for courses and all that.

As for Korn, i never liked the self titled so much, and found Life is Peachy and Follow the Leader to be two of the best. The new album aint so bad either.

*arms the anti-elitism cannon*

SIMON ADEBISI

02-01-2007, 12:16

Down's ( Phil Anselmo side project ) first Album is fantastic. I like the 2nd album as well but a lot of people didnt.

Captain_Howdy666

02-01-2007, 13:48

The OP asked for suggestions, so im suggesting some. I personally think Digitmortal is excellent, and Concrete is by far the worst FF album out of them all. But horses for courses and all that.

As for Korn, i never liked the self titled so much, and found Life is Peachy and Follow the Leader to be two of the best. The new album aint so bad either.

*arms the anti-elitism cannon*

I thought all nu-metal kiddies either grew up, killed themselves or became emo kids. I'm amazed there are still some around.

Concrete by Fear Factory is mainly a compilation of unreleased tracks and demos recorded prior to their major label debut, so to say it's their worst album is a tad unfair considering they had no involvement in its release. Concrete was released by Roadrunner to cash in on the band after they split. They split basically because they recorded Digimortal.

Damage Inc

02-01-2007, 14:09

I thought all nu-metal kiddies either grew up, killed themselves or became emo kids. I'm amazed there are still some around.

Concrete by Fear Factory is mainly a compilation of unreleased tracks and demos recorded prior to their major label debut, so to say it's their worst album is a tad unfair considering they had no involvement in its release. Concrete was released by Roadrunner to cash in on the band after they split. They split basically because they recorded Digimortal.

Let kids be kids.

Metal stuff i'm enjoying at the moment -

Church of Misery - The Second Coming
Clutch - The Elephant Riders
Down - Nola
Graves at Sea/Asunder split
Lair of the Minotaur - Carnage
Mind Eraser - Cave
The Sword - Age of Winters

Remains

02-01-2007, 14:21

Graves at Sea/Asunder split

I bow to that one. The new Asunder is out now too. This sort of stuff is one of my big loves.

Although, in fairness, I don't think if the OP is listening to Pantera, RATM and Maiden that the likes of Asunder, Graves at Sea, Church of Misery and probably even Lair of the Minotaur are going to be his thing... yet! ;)

Damage Inc

02-01-2007, 14:28

Ah but we've all got to start somewhere :)

I saw Church of Misery in camden last year, I think it was october. Anyway, they remind me a bit like pantera at times - big dirty redneck riffs, though in most parts a lot slower. Good stuff to rock out too, and relatively unheard of which is a shame.

02-01-2007, 17:10

No Rob Zombie yet?

DjSatansfury

02-01-2007, 17:51

I thought all nu-metal kiddies either grew up, killed themselves or became emo kids. I'm amazed there are still some around.

Oh do stop sir, it cuts me deep, it really does. :lol:

Captain_Howdy666

02-01-2007, 18:14

Oh do stop sir, it cuts me deep, it really does. :lol:

Haha :D

Matty2k4

02-01-2007, 19:14

try Mnemic
very good

Captain_Howdy666

02-01-2007, 19:48

try Mnemic
very good

Seconded.

I'll also agree with Dave at the Top of this page, Rob Zombie is great too. Hellbilly Deluxe is pretty sweet, and check out La Sexorcisto and Astro Creep by his previous band, White Zombie.

George vader

03-01-2007, 09:48

Monster Magnet

SIMON ADEBISI

03-01-2007, 10:02

Astro Creep by his previous band, White Zombie.

Still get regular listening to this day in my house. I saw them live in 95 supporting Soundgarden ( :thumbs: Great first gig) .and they rocked

Boink!

03-01-2007, 13:21

Good listings people, given me some new names to try out.

allan

03-01-2007, 14:11

I concur with White Zombie, still listen to them regularly.

leeds-seagull

04-01-2007, 06:43

Now then.

Today, I am mostly listening to.... Mendeed.

They are an ace new band, who are playing a sort of melodic metal - actually very good. Much better than I am able to describe anyway...

Check out the video - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ofy5PE8uB4 , or on here - http://www.myspace.com/mendeed & http://www.mendeed.co.uk

Enjoy....

Hood

04-01-2007, 07:49

Mendeed.

After their truly horrific version of The Thing That Should Not Be I have promised myself to never listen to anything else with their name attached. Worst cover version ever.

jediross

04-01-2007, 08:28

Stone Sours latest is v good imho
If you like something more rock than metal, try Rise by The Answer, great album and great live.

Oh and anything by The Wildhearts / Ginger always gets my vote.

:)

SIMON ADEBISI

04-01-2007, 09:56

The Wildhearts / Ginger

:mad: :gag:

adox

04-01-2007, 20:30

I never thought I'd say this(well not in the last 15 years or so)but the new Maiden album is well worth a listen.

jediross

04-01-2007, 22:29

:mad: :gag:

Constructive! :(

alphatyrant

04-01-2007, 22:56

Mastodon's Remission is superb, but they seem to have gotten progressively poorer, and now that they are signed up and have moved away from Relapse I feel that they've lost that gritty edge they once had....a shame.

The last Cult of Luna album is the ********, really really good....oh and The Meads of Asphodel are insane...good but insane.

Captain_Howdy666

04-01-2007, 23:41

Constructive! :(

Ignore him, The Wildhearts are awesome.

jediross

05-01-2007, 07:20

Ignore him, The Wildhearts are awesome.

:thumbs: A man with taste!! :D

Questor

05-01-2007, 10:35

Wildhearts rock!

And I saw White Zombie back in 96 at Rock City - probably my favourite gig EVAR!!! :)

FireclownUK

05-01-2007, 11:45

Personal favourites of the newer bands are the aforementioned Wildhearts, Wednesday 13 (I'm a big Alice Cooper fan, and I think they're in the same vein) and Dragonforce (best way I can describe them is Hellowe'en meets Ywngie Malmsteen :nuts: ).

Captain_Howdy666

05-01-2007, 13:28

Wildhearts rock!

And I saw White Zombie back in 96 at Rock City - probably my favourite gig EVAR!!! :)

To you and everyone else who has seen White Zombie live: You ********, you utter, utter ********.

Hood

05-01-2007, 13:55

To you and everyone else who has seen White Zombie live: You ********, you utter, utter ********.

I saw them at Donington in '95. I was right at the front and for most of the gig Sean was positioned on stage more or less above me. She spent most of the time with her foot up on a monitor whilst wearing a short skirt. It has to be said that it was a very good view. The band were amazing live. Definitely one of the best I've ever seen.

SIMON ADEBISI

05-01-2007, 14:24

To you and everyone else who has seen White Zombie live: You ********, you utter, utter ********.

:D Sunstroke 95. Supporting Soundgarden :notworthy Also playing were Tad, Mudhoney and Pennywise.

ghost.ottercrab

05-01-2007, 16:52

I'd recommend Prong, in particular their albums Beg To Differ, Cleansing and Rude Awakening. VERY under-rated band.

George vader

05-01-2007, 17:36

Dragonforce (best way I can describe them is Hellowe'en meets Ywngie Malmsteen :nuts: ).
.....or "widdley widdley"

p_chally

05-01-2007, 19:07

To you and everyone else who has seen White Zombie live: You ********, you utter, utter ********.

I saw them at Donnington that year aswell :thumbs:
I'd recommend either of the last two Iron Maiden albums, Metallica St Anger,Slayer Christ Illusion.
I am getting old now (37) and find it a struggle to like any of the newer generation of metal (Linkin Park/system of a down aside). Almost all of the albums on my mp3 player are 70/80/90s metal/rock, Hendrix/RATM/metallica/Slayer/Suicidal/Bad Brains/Misfits etc etc Ive tried listening to Mastodon, Dragonforce and many others but nothing seems to have the reaction that I used to have listening to the new albums by Kiss/Saxon/maiden then Metallica/Slayer/Celtic Frost (these guys are back and mean business). Nothing seems "special" anymore...... :oh-hum:

Boink!

05-01-2007, 19:26

Captain_Howdy666

05-01-2007, 19:35

I saw White Zombie at the Astoria (I think, not Brixton?) for their Astro Creep - 2000 album. Can't recall who supported but the gig was pretty damn good, though the band sounded just like the CD, not a raw live show. :suspect:

"Shut your mouth"
"I'll say anything I damn well want" http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/8869/rockerap0.gif

They played Brixton for the Astro Creep tour, I know this because I was 15/16 at the time and wasn't able to buy tickets for myself when I called up the venue. :(

I think it was Prong who supported them on the UK leg of the tour.

Boink!

05-01-2007, 19:47

Hm, must of got there late as don't recall who the support was. Yup, just confirmed this with my other half who accompanied me to the gig, she says that all she can remember is that every song sounded the same. Women, eh? :shrug:

p_chally

05-01-2007, 20:01

Currently listening to a Mendeed album as advised by others, and it sounds pretty damn good, melodic thrash with very listenable vocals, highly recommended.

Boink!

05-01-2007, 20:35

... and Dragonforce (best way I can describe them is Hellowe'en meets Ywngie Malmsteen :nuts: ).
Yeah, they are all big hair and none! more! fast! guitars! aren't they? :D
I first heard of them from the Operation Ground And Pound* video off the Inhuman Rampage album. I feel sorry for their drummer. :lol:
The video is suitable mentally OTT as well, a planet gets turned to cinders buy huge UFOs, while the band play on!!!111 :nuts:
Not normally my cup of tea, but they do cheer me up. :D

EDIT...
Here's my recommendation: Ektomorf and their 2006 album Outcast
Second recommendation: Since The Flood with No Compromise

*search for that on youtube

meat puppet

06-01-2007, 19:42

I saw them at Donnington that year aswell :thumbs:
I'd recommend either of the last two Iron Maiden albums, Metallica St Anger,Slayer Christ Illusion.
I am getting old now (37) and find it a struggle to like any of the newer generation of metal (Linkin Park/system of a down aside). Almost all of the albums on my mp3 player are 70/80/90s metal/rock, Hendrix/RATM/metallica/Slayer/Suicidal/Bad Brains/Misfits etc etc Ive tried listening to Mastodon, Dragonforce and many others but nothing seems to have the reaction that I used to have listening to the new albums by Kiss/Saxon/maiden then Metallica/Slayer/Celtic Frost (these guys are back and mean business). Nothing seems "special" anymore...... :oh-hum:

http://www.relapse.com/ecards/highonfire/

get excited again !!!! :notworthy

Boink!

06-01-2007, 21:24

Sounds rather good. :D

p_chally

06-01-2007, 22:00

Thanks meatpuppet never heard of them but they sound rather good.... :clap:

ajr90

06-01-2007, 22:34

No-one mentioned Trivum yet? I saw the video for "Anthem (We are the Fire)" on Kerrang TV the other day, that seemed quite good.

Captain_Howdy666

06-01-2007, 22:45

Trivium are guff. They should be dragged outside and shot.

ajr90

06-01-2007, 22:54

That's me told, then. :lol:

meat puppet

06-01-2007, 23:03

Trivium are guff. They should be dragged outside and shot.

A great pity really, the potential is obvious to most people...............I suppose talent and instrumental mastery are really not the same, but they are still young. I wish he would stop with that godawful double bass pedal though, really gets on my wick............groove dude, its not about filling every available space with a double bass fill at a million miles an hour.....mum look at me, see how fast I am.

If drumming was a sport it would be in the olympics :oh-hum:

meat puppet

06-01-2007, 23:08

Sounds rather good. :D
Thanks meatpuppet never heard of them but they sound rather good....

and they are just as good live............saw them up in Edinburgh in June this year, best gig this year by a longshot and that includes Tool and the deftones.

Matt Pike is out of 'Sleep' a well known underground stoner band. Bass player is from the legendary Melvins (If you dont know who they are try a listen to the album Houdini).

Remains

07-01-2007, 14:17

Sleep. :notworthy

And I hardly <b>ever</b> use that smiley.

meat puppet

07-01-2007, 18:27

Sleep. :notworthy

And I hardly <b>ever</b> use that smiley.

Do you have Dopesmoker.........pure, heavy as lead class.

Remains

08-01-2007, 03:06

Do you have Dopesmoker.........pure, heavy as lead class.

A truly seminal album! Especially the 'correct' version that Tee Pee did where it is a single 63 minute song.

I skirted around the edges of Om for a while, but now I'm fully hooked on them too! "Variations on a Theme" and "Conference of the Birds" are fantastic.

Yob have been another firm favourite of the past few years too.

studmeister

09-01-2007, 18:40

well, i've started my collection by adding children of bodom's album are you dead yet? sound pretty good so far :thumbs:

meat puppet

09-01-2007, 23:30

well, i've started my collection by adding children of bodom's album are you dead yet? sound pretty good so far :thumbs:

:lol: :lol: so nothing we have suggested then :lol: :lol:

studmeister

10-01-2007, 00:25

DjSatansfury recommended them, but not that particular album. it's a start though :)

meat puppet

10-01-2007, 11:08

DjSatansfury recommended them, but not that particular album. it's a start though :)

Exactly :lol: So I hope your feeling suitably guilty making us write those long lists :cry:

Captain_Howdy666

10-01-2007, 12:08

well, i've started my collection by adding children of bodom's album are you dead yet? sound pretty good so far :thumbs:

That's probably the worst of their albums.

I don't know why it is, but all Swedish melodi-death metal bands seem to be getting ****. (Obviously, there's one or two exceptions).

Children of Bodom were pretty solid until the latest album, sure each album might have had a weak track here and there, but overall, they were good. The most recent effort, I till have not been able to get into, which is a shame as I love pretty much everything else they've done.
Stand out albums: Hatebreeder & Follow The Reaper.

In Flames were awesome until the release of Clayman. That album was pretty good, Bullet Ride & Pinball Map being the stand out tracks, but everything else after that was ******* dreadful. I think Anders Friden decided he wanted to change the band's direction to make more money, unfortunately he did this on the back of the nu-metal era, so Reroute To Remain was a very weak sounding nu-metal wannabe album, Then came the birth of Metal-core so he then decided to jump on that bandwagon. Therefore, the style of the next album changed again. The situation was made worse as they started touring with every metal-core band they could find.
Stand out albums: Colony & The Jester Race.

Soilwork, much like In Flames, were awesome once. They started to go to **** about the time In Flames did (influences, anyone?), I think that album was Natural Born Chaos and while they never descended to the depths that In Flames did, for that album and I think the next, there was a drop in quality and style, but they listened to the issues that the fanbase had with those and pulled themselves back up for the next album, and while it's not as good as the early albums there is a significant improvement overall.
Stand out albums: Chainheart Machine, Steel Bath Suicide & A Predators Portrait. (Why three albums and not two? because they're still probably my favourite of all the bands I've written about here).

Dark Tranquillity had Anders Friden (In Flames' current dread-locked cock weasel) as the vocalist for their debut effort, but this was back when he wasn't a money hungry cash cow, that album was pretty cool. Anders then left and Michael Stanne was recruited to replace him, since then DT, like CoB have remained pretty much constant with the style and quality of each album.
Stand out albums: Damage Done & The Gallery.

I'm sure there's more Swedish death metal bands I could write about, but my mind has just gone blank.

meat puppet

10-01-2007, 16:56

Look into my eyes :eek: you are under my power :nuts: and you will forget every swedish death metal band you ever listened to, except for the first four :nono: when I snap my fingers you will awake........

SNAP :lol:

I'm sure there's more Swedish death metal bands I could write about, but my mind has just gone blank.

anephric

10-01-2007, 18:40

The most recent Ministry album, Rio Grande Blood, is a bit of a return to form: certainly the best thing they've done since Filthpig. Much thrashier than they used to be though. Admittedly, it is pretty much just Jourgensen now.

jonozz

10-01-2007, 20:05

That's probably the worst of their albums.

I don't know why it is, but all Swedish melodi-death metal bands seem to be getting ****. (Obviously, there's one or two exceptions).

Children of Bodom

Swedish? or did you mean Finnish ;)

Captain_Howdy666

11-01-2007, 12:57

Swedish? or did you mean Finnish ;)

Haha oops. The other three are Swedish though, even though CoB aren't. Maybe I should just change my post to say "European melodi-death metal bands" :D

Bezzant

11-01-2007, 14:03

Haha oops. The other three are Swedish though, even though CoB aren't. Maybe I should just change my post to say "European melodi-death metal bands" :D

Makes me sad everytime i listen to some of the mentioned bands now... in flames especially... up to clayman, which i really enjoy still :cry: I didn't mind the more recent soilwork albums so much, get quite "catchy" after a number of listens. Pretty much enjoy all of bodom though, they've yet to let me down.

Another suggestion is Carcass. Its all good, to varying degrees. Start with the more "recent"(not really recent at all :lol: ) albums and work your way backwards for less of a shock.

edit: I'm sure i saw mention of the last slayer album (christ illusion?). Was i the only one who really couldnt get into it? was maybe one or two tracks i could enjoy after a while but on the whole i found really disappointing :(