[Xbox 360, PC] Bioshock

[Creamstick]

My post doesn't come for another two hours - my nerves are shot! I need a valiu.*NO YOU CAN'T HAVE MOR ******* TOAST!!!*sorry, sorry honey - daddy doesn't mean to shout..sory honey *GET THE **** OFFF THERE!!!* was that the door? sorry honey, no - daddy still loves you - daddy doesn't mean to shout - I need a cup of tea..where has the postman got to? Amy, come out of you room.. Amy... Amy?

[tezmo]

get some gaffer tape - problem solved.

[mostly]

just got mine from game

[tezmo]

all you student types around at 10 am to welcome the postman get right on my titties.

[ShakeyJake]

From playing this for a couple of hours I've found you really need to explore and not follow the arrows or you'll miss a lot of power ups. Enjoying it a lot so far, which is saying quite a lot from someone who hates FPSs

[clarkyboy100]

I really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really really don't get what difference it makes if you get it today, tomorrow, monday or only when your granny leaves it to you in her will! :shrug:

[Harsin]

You can switch the arrows off can't you? How distracting are they?

[ShakeyJake]

You can switch the arrows off can't you? How distracting are they?

To be honest I only noticed them when some nutcase was throwing a fireball at my head. I've not really found it gets in the way. I can imagine getting a bit lost without them, although you have a got a map if you press the back button.

[nearlyarockstar]

Played for about 15 mins before work and got the first achievement for shocking some guys in the water. Playing it on hard mode from what the reviews have been saying. clarkyboy100 is right, sooner you get it, the sooner you finish it and have to play Forza2 again.

Only 7 hrs of work to go.....:cry:

[vast_girth]

why havent i got my GAME order yet!?

grrrrr

[scaramanga]

Mine arrived too :) Just installing ready for a day long blitz of it

[tezmo]

I really don't get what difference it makes if you get it today, tomorrow, monday or only when your granny leaves it to you in her will! :shrug:

then you are in the wrong thread! Seriously - the anticipation is the absolute best part of this merry-go-round. An anti-climax is.....inevitable.

[nearlyarockstar]

Mine arrived too :) Just installing ready for a day long blitz of it

oooh that leaves you with 1 more install! ;)

[The Chad]

You can switch the arrows off can't you? How distracting are they?

Yeah you can switch them off, as well as the hints although they only show up if you hold the right d-pad down for a few seconds. First thing I did was to switch the arrows off, easier to use the map if you need it

[ShakeyJake]

Wow first crap myself moment


Was in the dentistry section, entered a room which filled with mist, heard footsteps. Room clears and I could see no one. Walk round pick up a few things, listen to one of the cassette things. Then room fills with mist again, but no footsteps. Room then clears, no one there. So I turn round and this nutty dentist is standing right next to me! Scared the bejesus out of me :lol:

[mikegray]

I really don't get what difference it makes if you get it today, tomorrow, monday or only when your granny leaves it to you in her will! :shrug:

I don't know about anyone else, but it being a long weekend will actually give me a chance to play it, so as long as it arrives before tomorrow night, that's fine by me.

[KRW]

I have decided not to buy it at all tomorrow and make a start with Oblivion instead. I'll come back here in a few days to see what the backlash is like before splashing out. :D

[Digital]

Some images of the limited edition steelcase:

http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8753/bioshockuksteelbookcaseja7.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/8753/bioshockuksteelbookcaseja7.jpg)
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3746/bioshockuksteelbookcasegb7.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3746/bioshockuksteelbookcasegb7.jpg)
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5388/bioshockuksteelbookcaseto7.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5388/bioshockuksteelbookcaseto7.jpg)
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9650/bioshockuksteelbookcaseei0.th.jpg (http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9650/bioshockuksteelbookcaseei0.jpg)

[tezmo]

thank you, Digital - thats precisely the sort of pants ****tingly good anticipation builder I need!

edit: also, for once, someone has taken this kind of picture in proper focus!

[Digital]

Shame I can't play it though. :( The authentication servers are down. :(

[LouBarlow]

edit: also, for once, someone has taken this kind of picture in proper focus!

:mad:

[tezmo]

:mad:

:?:

[Harsin]

When Halo 2 came out we had to lay the smack down on 'ZOMG my order has moved to packaging!!!!!!111111' posts, methinks we'll be doing the same for Halo 3.

[scaramanga]

Shame I can't play it though. :( The authentication servers are down. :(

Im just doing a defrag and THEN im installing.. Hope this isnt the case or ill have to go out on this boodiful sunny day :nono:

[TonyG]

When Halo 2 came out we had to lay the smack down on 'ZOMG my order has moved to packaging!!!!!!111111' posts, methinks we'll be doing the same for Halo 3.
I was just about to post "ZOMG my order has moved to packaging!!!!!" in the Blue Dragon thread.

Thanx Harsin for saving me one less black-mark next to my name. ;)

[Person A]

Any sign of this on the high street yet?

Got a rare day off today and didn't have the foresight to preorder.

[Harsin]

I was just about to post "ZOMG my order has moved to packaging!!!!!" in the Blue Dragon thread.

Thanx Harsin for saving me one less black-mark next to my name. ;)


Buying Blue Dragon is a black mark on your life.

[swanny]

Wife out tonight - check.
TV all mine for the evening - check.
Game shipped Bioshock yesterday - check.
Postman delivers game today - nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. Just a bank statement. :cry::cry::cry:

[nearlyarockstar]

Oh well, you can still watch porn :thumbs:

[mikegray]

Shame I can't play it though. :( The authentication servers are down. :(

Nah, they're just not up for 'your region' yet. :cuckoo::brickwall

[ShakeyJake]

Does anyone know what the difference between harvesting and saving the little sisters is? Does one way make the game harder, and if so by how much? I notice there's a 100 point achievement if you save them all...

[wocko]

There's meant to be some sort of "moral" cost at the end of the game, so maybe a different ending if you harvest them all rather than save them?

[nearlyarockstar]

I think in a review they said you get half the adam if you save one compared to harvesting them :thinking:

[ShakeyJake]

The game seems to leave it as a bit of a leap of faith as to whether you harvest them or not.

[sirp]

i was all for the saving of them, until a big daddy seriously annoyed me, then i heard the little sister shouting KILL HIM, KILL HIM

she got what was coming to her!

[Goblin]

You get rewards for saving them, that Dr Woman said so.

[Drysolder]

Does anyone know what the difference between harvesting and saving the little sisters is? Does one way make the game harder, and if so by how much? I notice there's a 100 point achievement if you save them all...

There's a twist in the game where your decisions early on affect how it proceeds. It also affects how characters react to you.

MY Gameplay SE has arrived , but it was damaged inside the case and outside on the box. :(

[Harsin]

Spoiler tags people! :mad:

[Digital]

Nah, they're just not up for 'your region' yet. :cuckoo::brickwall

Nope it was just that the 2Kgames servers were down so you couldn't patch the game and move on. :oh-hum:

No matter, they're now back up and my game is patched and authenticated. :notworthy

[ShakeyJake]

You get rewards for saving them, that Dr Woman said so.


Could be something pretty rubbish though. If it were a Big Daddy suit...

[mikegray]

Nope it was just that the 2Kgames servers were down so you couldn't patch the game and move on. :oh-hum:

No matter, they're now back up and my game is patched and authenticated. :notworthy

Ah, cool. They said the servers wouldn't be up 'til tomorrow.

[fivebyfive]

Bioshock is game of the year, it looks like by not having multiplayer, the developers could focus their efforts on making a superb single player game

[Robby]

Got my Tin Edition today, and pretty naff it is too.


Tin that is, as soon as i opened it the bleeding front came right off. The hinge is held together by a piddly bit of tape.

:razz: to stupid gimicky packaging.

[Goblin]

Could be something pretty rubbish though. If it were a Big Daddy suit...


you get a boost of Adam and some other stuff, so it's probably worth doing as you get back the Adam you've lost from not harvesting plus a bonus

[scaramanga]

I found the collectors ed pretty disappointing. The sound track CD is awful. I thought id be getting the full OST instead i get a ridicules remix of under the sea ...

Big daddy is ok but not that well painted. Making of... alright, better than the 5 min one i got with STALKER.

From watching the making of it seems like the score could sound very interesting... hope it comes out on CD/mp3 download if it is

[Refrenz]

Mine is arriving at the shops tomorrow. I'm going to get up about 8:30, shower, possibly have a shave and then I have the choice of Frosties, Rice Crispies or toast for breakfast.

For visiting the shops I'm going to wear a pair of nice jeans and a t-shirt (long sleeve if it gets slightly chilly) and my Adidas Campus trainers. I'm not sure whether I'll take the car or the bus yet. Town is quite busy on a friday so parking may be a problem. The bus is £1.20 into town so that has to be taken into consideration.

Once in town I've got the 'which shop' dilemma. Game? Gamestation? Blockbuster? I just can't decide right now. Once the decision has been made I will enter the shop, look around for a copy of Bioshock, take a copy and approach an assistant at the till. The nice man will probably ask me for £39.99 to which my response will be to reach into my brown leather wallet and hand over £40. Now this may be two £20 notes, a £20 and two £10s or four £10s. Fivers may come in to it but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. Then he will give me 1p change and a bag with my game in it.

Then I'll go home, put the game on, get really excited at first, then after a couple of hours I'll feel let down slightly and moan in this thread about tearing, difficulty levels, ask for spoilers etc. Then I'll gather as many gamerpoints as possible and trade it in.

:p

Clarkyboy100, I'd really love it if you would do post-event analysis, paying careful attention to highlight how/why/where there were any deviations from your action plan.

:thumbs:;)

[Drysolder]

Spoiler tags people! :mad:

I sowee... :(

[mikegray]

Anyone get the PC edition from Game today, incidentally?

[Wendelius]

My Game copy (360) shipped yesterday and wasn't here today. Woe is me... :(

Guess most Game customers will receive theirs tomorrow. Makes it easier for me to decide to work from home. :)

Wendelius

[Savagexii]

My Game pre-order arrived this morning, have started the game on Hard in an attempt to prove i can handle such things, and promptly got my arse handed to me by one of the Big Daddies. :thumbs:

It really is recommended to think some of these fights through before you go at it :lol:

Otherwise, I'm finding the difficulty curve rather good, health is rarely a major issue and if anything is a fairly good indicator that I've been doing something wrong when I find myself extremely low. Ammo hasn't been quite as much of a problem as i was expecting, but i guess it's more about the delicate balancing act between the Plasmids and Guns.

Still wonderfully atmospheric and interesting, have been earning some fairly minor achievements along the way too so it's true that you don't have to work up too much sweat in order to get your fair share.

That's my pennies worth,now back on with the slaughter i think!

[scaramanga]

Been playing this on hard and im just past the telekinesis plasmid part. Very impressed indeed! Im liking how they have incoporated the use of the plasmids into solving a lot of the puzzles. Had me a few times, then i thought a little about using a plasmid.

[chris21]

Don't know if this has been mentioned but Gamespot gave it 9.0. They never fail to amaze me. This makes them rank it alongside Perfect dark Zero in terms of greatness.

[tejstar]

Anyone get the PC edition from Game today, incidentally?
Yep got both CE's, haven't decided which to keep right now!

http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c263/Tejstar/BioshockPC360CE.jpg

[sirp]

Don't know if this has been mentioned but Gamespot gave it 9.0. They never fail to amaze me. This makes them rank it alongside Perfect dark Zero in terms of greatness.

yes, but its hard to measure a one game against one that comes out in the future.

not saying its a 9/10 game mind :)

[john316]

This makes them rank it alongside Perfect dark Zero in terms of greatness.

:lol: - a slap in the face ranks up with PD:Z

[Harsin]

:lol: - a slap in the face ranks up with PD:Z

At least a slap in the face implies you might have had some fun preceeding it, such as making a saucy comment to a buxom secretary.

If my copy doesn't turn up tomorrow I'm going to ban Lou to get some small measure of revenge on the Royal Mail.

[paulsaz]

pretty good this isn't it?

it hasn't blown me away but it is very good. oh and my big daddy is towering menacingly over that silly mech thing that arrived with lost planet .

[mikegray]

It's bloody great. I've not done much yet, but I'm 2 hours in and it's been incredible so far. I'm almost tempted to keep the PC version too at this rate and play that one through making the 'other' choice!

I hope I'm not the only one hacking everything in sight just because I'm nostalgic for Pipe Mania.

[LouBarlow]

If my copy doesn't turn up tomorrow I'm going to ban Lou to get some small measure of revenge on the Royal Mail.

Don't blame me - haven't had a bacon sarnie in weeks as I'm dieting, so it's not me slacking guv.

[swanny]

Ken Levine has commented on the securom issue:


I've followed up on the circular email with securom and we are working on this issue. I agree, it sucks, and we need to get that sorted.

I've been told by 2k that we will.

-Ken

http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6750

[Marwhite]

Does anybody know if there are any in-store trade in deals at GAME or Gamestation for this? Gonna shoot up town and grab it today!

[cluderi]

Had a good two hours on it so far and my thoughts so far.

Looks amazing
Plays amazing
Hard setting is damn hard, I had to restart on medium after struggling for ammo and health/power packs.

My only gripe are the respawning enemies, it's not quite as bad as something like Project IGI on the PC (you'd clear a guard hut, walk outside and go straight back in and it would be full of guards again) but it's annoying when you're not quite sure where to go next so you walk around looking for stuff you didn't spot originally only to have to keep killing random spawns.

[RCW]

played for approx 4 hrs last night & very impressed, looks and sounds amazing, esp through new headphones that also arrived this week :D

http://www.sharkoon.com/enghtml/multimedia.htm#xtatic

weapons and plasmids are a good combo, really like the ice plasmid :) lots to find too which should help to string it out a little. My only concern is whether there is going to be much replay value once its over, not sure it's the sort of game I'll be going back to much.

[JohnMac]

I played Bioshock quite a bit yesterday and it is a superb game. Usually when you have such high expectations for a game it fails to deliver but not this time. I didn't play the demo so I spent the first hour walking around slowly being very impressed with the world of Rapture and how good the graphics are. This has got to be one of the most impressive and interesting game worlds ever created. No bland World War II or bland futuristic setting here, I can't stress highly enough how Rapture and the highly impressive water effects are characters in themselves in this game. Imagine a world that is one part art deco styled Atlantis and the other part sick twisted science gone mad fun house...that's Rapture.

I had seen the demonstration video of Bioshock and was impressed. Even the interview on last month's Official XBOX 360 magazine's cover DVD really struck a chord with me because yes I am sick of playing WWII shooters. Bioshock really does give you choices over how you approach situations and lets you think for yourself. A good balance is struck with a handy goal arrow which never lets you get lost. However, I don't believe Bioshock represents FPS 2.0 but it does come very close. Some of the things you can do in Bioshock you could do in Deus Ex for example, the point is, they have never been as well integrated, accessible and fun to use as they are in Bioshock.

Before playing the game I thought there were just weapons and Plasmids. Used in combination these are highly effective: an electric bolt Plasmid fired from the left hand to shock/stun an enemy followed up by hitting them with the wrench a few times in your right hand. But Plasmids are one of four types of ability tracks you can unlock slots for. These additional abilities are more passive. So eventually (and I'll stick with my example above) you might also have equipped abilities that let you swing the wrench faster or give enemies electric shocks that come into contact with you. In addition you can upgrade weapons such as the wrench so that it inflicts more damage or even be almost silent whilst moving and invisible to enemies whilst standing still to help you get closer to the enemies to cause more damage with the wrench. That is just taking one example, there are many more and as a result many more possibilities that will best match your style of play.

You'll quickly get more Plasmids and abilities than you've got open slots for and that is when you need to think carefully about what combination of weapons, plasmids and other abilities you want to use because you can't change them on the fly. You can swap your plasmids and abilities around but only at these special vending machines-type things that are scattered throughout the city. Speaking of vending machines there are loads of these and plenty of different types.

225 achievement points so far. The two I'm most pleased with aren't plot related but I'll use spoilers
I've unlocked all my Plasmid slots and done 50 hacks.

[nearlyarockstar]

Its alright, innnit? :thumbs:

Playing it on Hard mode and have saved every little sister so far....the first time you save one is actually quite an emotional moment- the music is perfect.

It really is a wondeful game. Setting people on fire then chasing them as they try and find water, only to then electrocute them. Brilliant.

[clarkyboy100]

Clarkyboy100, I'd really love it if you would do post-event analysis, paying careful attention to highlight how/why/where there were any deviations from your action plan.

:thumbs:;)

Well...

I woke up with a woody (must have been the excitement) although I felt a wee bit sick so I decided to dodge breakfast and go straight into town. Took the car. Parked in a multi-storey car par so was only 60p for parking compared to £1.20 for the bus. Result! :)

[Flyte]

For anyone who hasnt got it yet - Blockbuster have both versions (inc the ltd edition tin set) for £34.99, and its also on their trade in deal of a top title!

Ive just got back, traded in Overlord and got the tin set and a free faceplate for £8.99!

[lewisrichard]

played from around 7 till 1am last night what a game. really enjoying it. also been saving the sisters!

gonna play some more in a sec.:thumbs:

[Creamstick]

Still waiting..

I haven't had any post in three days - ******* postman is probably sitting at home playing my Bioshock, wearing the t-shirts I ordered last week..

the only reason I'm so anxious, is that I'm returning to college on Monday as a mature student - so I'll have no time to play it after the weekend!

[Harsin]

Who did you order from?

[kohoutec]

Just picked up a tin copy from Blockbuster, no faceplates left though (Exeter Sidwell Street)

[carlito8]

I picked up an extra copy from blockbusters in York this morning, I think they had 3 or 4 faceplates left when I left at 12ish. The faceplate is actually pretty cool, they are normally really naff ! Will flog the extra copy of the game on ebay.....

I played (my original copy) last night for about 4 hours, I really found myself getting drawn into the game which I was surprised at as I'm normally not a big FPS nut. Hopefully going to have another bash tommorow afternoon as the wife is taking the kids out for the afternoon :) No doubt you'll all be on your second run through by then !

I managed to pick up quite a few achievements during the course of normal play, makes a change from the usual chores needed to get them, I must admit I did go after the hacker achievement on purpose though, I actually quite like the mini game !

I'm playing on normal and trying to save all the little sisters, must admit I was tempted to give one the sharp end of the shotgun though, evil little buggers.

[Creamstick]

Who did you order from?

ADSA. It was sent out on Wednesday :(

I'd love to be able to go down to the ASDA down the road and pick up another copy (and take it back when the other one arrives), but I don't want to leave the house in case it turns up in a late post (still clinging to my last thread of hope).

[Harsin]

Mine was dispatched on Tuesday, I can only assume by carrier sloth, as it isn't here yet.

:razz: to Game's 'first to play' promise.

Tempted to pop to town and buy one and return the delivered one to them for a refund. :dork:

[MetalGearAl]

I wasn't even going to buy the game, only decided to buy it today. Will be picking it up in a couple of hours, so take that Mr. Morderator :p

[wakeupjake]

Tempted to pop to town and buy one and return the delivered one to them for a refund. :dork:

done that myself more than once:)

just popped into Game and picked up my Bioshock. The missus is out tonight so turning the sound up, having a drink and looking forward to being creeped out.

Just so you know the guy in Game told me this game was supposed to be quite good :lol:

[ShakeyJake]

Hypnotising a Big Daddy into following you round and taking out the bad guys is VERY satisfying :D

[Savagexii]

Hypnotising a Big Daddy into following you round and taking out the bad guys is VERY satisfying :D

Until he unwittingly blocks you into a tiny corner when you're checking for items. :lol:

[Barney_Tabasco]

8/10 in Edge.

They love it but it feel it could have been so much better.

[AKPiggott]

Ordered the tin from Amazon yesterday afternoon, arrived this morning.

I hadn't really been following this title so it's come as a bit of a surprise. Absolutely loving it so far. Best opening I've seen to a video game in ages!

[john316]

8/10 in Edge.

They love it but it feel it could have been so much better.

:lol: - good old Edge like to rise above the pack

[lettuce]

I see a few people are playing it on the Hard settings, is it surpossed to be slightly too easy on normal setting then?

[carlito8]

I see a few people are playing it on the Hard settings, is it surpossed to be slightly too easy on normal setting then?

I'm finding it pretty easy going so far on normal and I'm not a big FPS player, I'd go with hard if your a veteran :)

[Harsin]

done that myself more than once:)

My Friends List is taunting me...

Looks like I'll be safe enough from this.

GAME.co.uk has recently changed its Returns policies to give you more time to return unwanted or duplicate gifts - please see our online policy below.

Any software may be returned for refund or exchange within 28 days of the despatch date, providing that the seal remains unbroken on the software.

You can return goods to your nearest GAME Store (check our Store Locator to find your nearest GAME Store). Please note: You must return any item using the original invoice supplied with your product and have your credit or debit card used for the original purchase with you for the store to process the refund.

Bloody Royal Mail. :mad:

[Harsin]

Oh FFS they haven't got the CE so I can't even do that. :mad:

[Harsin]

Right quick question for anyone with the CE, is the tin case that comes with it exactly the same as the tin version you can buy in Game instore and is sealed seperately from the actual main box, ie. does it have it's own cellophane wrapper?

[LooNaTiK]

anyone pre-load this on steam? supposed to be active now, but mine still says pre-loaded, unreleased... is there something im supposed to do?

LooN

[mjpartyboy]

Much to my surprise I got home to find my Littlewoods Direct £24.10 order on my bed. It's the standard case and disappointingly the "9/10, 95%" label is actually part of the cover art as opposed to a sticker like the tin case. Why do they sometimes ruin cover art in this way?!

My friend wanted to get this today so we went to a local Blockbuster at lunch time and they had a couple of tins left but no faceplates (tin and standard case both £34.99). They said people were queuing for it before they opened.

http://www.blockbuster.co.uk/bbimages/UK/Glossy/Stores/Aug07/BioShock.gif

[platty]

Right quick question for anyone with the CE, is the tin case that comes with it exactly the same as the tin version you can buy in Game instore and is sealed seperately from the actual main box, ie. does it have it's own cellophane wrapper?


I think it is , and yes, it does come in its own cellophane wrapper :thumbs:

[Harsin]

Thanks mate. :thumbs:

[MetalGearAl]

Bet the barcodes are different or something and they nab ya :D

[LooNaTiK]

ignore me, it's working now.

LooN

[Harsin]

Bet the barcodes are different or something and they nab ya :D

You're one of the people driving me to these lengths. :razz:

http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2335/mtlalot3.jpg

On a day when I had arranged to 'work from home' as well. :(

[Idle Child]

2 Questions about Big Daddies:

1. Did anyone get an achievement for killing their FIRST big daddy? I didn't and thought it was odd?

2. Anyone noticed a big daddy wondering around without a little sister? I did did after I killed my first, elsehwere near and thought it was odd! Is it a bug?

[GAmbrose]

Quick Question

What happens if you kill a Big Daddy when the little sister isn't with him? Because I have done this and now it looks like I won't be able to get my hands on her...Which is most annoying.

I NEED ADAM!

Gary A

[GAmbrose]

Anyone noticed a big daddy wondering around without a little sister? I did did after I killed my first, elsehwere near and thought it was odd! Is it a bug?

The Little Sister get tired and go to bed in those metal holes, Big Daddy's then wander about until they are called again.

These aren't really spoilers....

Gary A

[Idle Child]

The Little Sister get tired and go to bed in those metal holes, Big Daddy's then wander about until they are called again.

These aren't really spoilers....

Gary A

Thanks for learing that up, i had no idea. :)

but what about Q1?

[GAmbrose]

I don't think I did. Playing it on hard here and those muthers are rock-**** tough.

Gary A

[mikegray]

My PC version from Game, shipped Tuesday is nowhere to be seen. Good thing the 360 version showed. :|

[fivebyfive]

Thanks for learing that up, i had no idea. :)

but what about Q1?

you don't get an achievement for that

[Drysolder]

Right quick question for anyone with the CE, is the tin case that comes with it exactly the same as the tin version you can buy in Game instore and is sealed seperately from the actual main box, ie. does it have it's own cellophane wrapper?

Yes, it is, and it's wrapped separately from the other items in the box.

I plan on keeping the Big Daddy, and dunking just the game on once I've finished it.

[anephric]

My 360 seems awfully prone to crashing during the hacking mini-games (like, the least technically demanding part of the game). Ho-hum.

I've been playing it through on Hard from the beginning because of so many reviews and general WoM saying it's too easy on regular difficulty. I've found the Big Daddys (despite Edge telling me they're easy as ze cake) a bit tough too - they seem to rush in far too close for telekinesis to be of any value and I have to use nearly all of my ammo to take them down playing carousel around a piece of sheltering scenery.

8/10 in Edge.

They love it but it feel it could have been so much better.

That Edge review is as definitive an example of damning with faint praise as I've ever read: I'm amazed they mustered an 8 for it by the end. Can you hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of incessant pedantry.

[ShakeyJake]

I just jumped behind a sofa in the corner of a room and I can't get out :(

[anephric]

Can't you ask someone for help? Have you got one of those distress lights on the front of your house like old ladies have when they fall over and can't get up again?

[mrwriter]

Just had a dilemma - only had an hour with my 360 tonight, with no scope to extend my playtime, so I had to decide whether to start Bioshock or not...

I chose to play Colin McRae instead while the unplayed Bioshock taunted me from the dvd rack :( Just didn't feel like a quick first play would be doing it justice...

And I'm away from tomorrow until Tuesday! Argh.

[GAmbrose]

I like the fact that they said the Demo was different to how the game starts, and yet the only differences from the main game are:

Diary inplace of 'Incinerate' Plasmid
Camera after 'Little Sister' sequence removed
Machine Gun removed from floor
Machine gun turret in toilets removed

Gary A

[sirp]

yeah, made me laugh too that about the demo...didnt you feel like you had a whole new experience from the full game though :D

im really glad this game came along, something about it seemed quite original. For me, it rates above half life 2, and i didnt think i'd be saying that so soon. Yes it has its faults, but so many positives too. Not sure how i would rate it on a small tv with crappy sound though, as this is one game that deserves the full kit thrown at it.

[Idle Child]

I like the fact that they said the Demo was different to how the game starts, and yet the only differences from the main game are:

Diary inplace of 'Incinerate' Plasmid
Camera after 'Little Sister' sequence removed
Machine Gun removed from floor
Machine gun turret in toilets removed

Gary A

Well, it was different. It was surpising not to see those things there when playing the full game.

I've noiced that normal mode was also a lot more stingier in the full game. I only got about $30/40, for the demo part (could get around $120 no trouble in the demo). Drops in general are few. I like that though, because it adds an element of difficultly.

[Wendelius]

Well, if I ever wondered how to make play with shadows, smoke effects and everything goes dark sequences right, I'd have found the game to teach me. Goodness. I play sitting on the ground against my sofa and more than once I've tried to jump on the sofa, much to the amusement of my wife. :lol:

I love love love how the game rewards exploration. If you make the effort to reach an area, you will find something there to make it worth your while.

I'm having trouble with my plasmid supply though. Health is fine but boy are they stingy with those blue syringes... Guess I'll have to start spending my dollars.

Called it a night and probably won't be able to play until after the week-end but I'm looking forward to it.

Wendelius

[ShakeyJake]

Has anyone got the "Lucky Winner" achievement? I spent a fortune on the slot machines, even winning money, but apprently didn't hit the jackpot.

[JohnMac]

No I didn't get that achievement either. Funny thing is, the slot machines only appear to come up with the same limited combinations over and over again.

Judging by the bathysphere/metro system I'm at the start of the last area with 480 achievement points.

[The Chad]

Has anyone got the "Lucky Winner" achievement? I spent a fortune on the slot machines, even winning money, but apprently didn't hit the jackpot.

Yep managed to get that one in the arcade type place, had about 30 goes on one machine then played a couple of others for about 3 turns then went upstairs and won out of one there

[ShakeyJake]

Do you know what the 3 symbols were when you got it? I had a few with 3 oranges (or whatever they were) and all the ones I didn't win had the same combination of other things (as JohnMac says)

[Joffy]

I managed to hack one of the vending machines, but it still just came up as me having no $ and gave me nothin :shrug:

[ShakeyJake]

hacking the vending machines just means you can buy stuff for a lower price

[mikegray]

hacking the vending machines just means you can buy stuff for a lower price

And sometimes extra stuff. :thumbs:

[internetuser]

how long is this game ? in in hours ?

[mikegray]

how long is this game ? in in hours ?

Estimates seem to vary between 8 if you rush through it and 20 if you take your time and loot every corpse / search every room etc...

[kohoutec]

I played for a couple of hours earlier, saved, had a break, when I came back it had put me back at the beginning of the level I was on :( Is that how it should be, cos it doesn't seem right to me? I'd found the camera, taken the photos etc and now it looks like I've got to do it all again? Or is it just me being thick? (entirely possibly)

[mr_woo]

My 360 seems awfully prone to crashing during the hacking mini-games (like, the least technically demanding part of the game). Ho-hum.

I've been playing it through on Hard from the beginning because of so many reviews and general WoM saying it's too easy on regular difficulty. I've found the Big Daddys (despite Edge telling me they're easy as ze cake) a bit tough too - they seem to rush in far too close for telekinesis to be of any value and I have to use nearly all of my ammo to take them down playing carousel around a piece of sheltering scenery.



That Edge review is as definitive an example of damning with faint praise as I've ever read: I'm amazed they mustered an 8 for it by the end. Can you hear that, Mr. Anderson? That is the sound of incessant pedantry.


Is the review the typical pretentious edge arseholiness that's become the norm for them in recent months ? I haven't read it (as I don't buy Edge anymore) but certainly sounds like it.

What's even funnier is that they've given Space Giraffe an 8 as well (i like it but an 8, **** me)

As for the game itself, I think it's ******* outstanding. From the last 3 - 4 hours I've played so far it's near enough certain to be my game of the year. It's incredibly well thought out and designed and the stories pretty intriguing so far.

As for the Big Daddys I'd have to say that they are kicking my arse everytime at the minute, and that's on normal. Still, it's always fun and i'm having a blast :thumbs:

[mikegray]

I played for a couple of hours earlier, saved, had a break, when I came back it had put me back at the beginning of the level I was on :( Is that how it should be, cos it doesn't seem right to me? I'd found the camera, taken the photos etc and now it looks like I've got to do it all again? Or is it just me being thick? (entirely possibly)

Did you not save during the level? You can save at any time. Autosaves only happen at the beginning of new levels.

[JohnMac]

Edit: Ignore my last post. It only applies if you unplug your 360 and aren't connected to Live.

[The Chad]

Do you know what the 3 symbols were when you got it? I had a few with 3 oranges (or whatever they were) and all the ones I didn't win had the same combination of other things (as JohnMac says)

The Jackpot win is 3 $ symbols, most of the machines were giving me similar combos as you have both mentioned, I got the jackpot first time out of the machine I won it on. Maybe that machine is rigged to give the jackpot and you just have to find it, I don't know?

[Wendelius]

The Bioshock orchestral score is now up for download for free: click here (http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html).

Nice. :)

Wendelius

[GAmbrose]

I've played it for ages today and though it's really good I don't think i'd put it above Half-Life 2.

That broke up repetition with levels like the boat, jeep and Ravenholm levels. Bioshock for all it's positives does tend to play the same the whole way through the game. I haven't completed it yet Just finished the part where you photograph the 4 people for that artist so i'll reserve judgement but it's definately one of the better First Person shooters this year.

Gary A

[kohoutec]

Did you not save during the level? You can save at any time. Autosaves only happen at the beginning of new levels.

Yep I did save, not sure what happened really, just replayed it and I definitely had to repeat objectives I'd already done. Strange, hopefully it will behave itself now.

[SqueakyG]

Okay, my PC version has crashed twice now. Great, now I remember why I don't do PC games. Both crashes took place in the same room, at the start of the medical pavilion. One crash was when trying to save, one crash was when initiating a hack on a vending machine. And each time, it resets all graphics/sound settings to default next time I load.

I hope this isn't the start of a trend :(

[scaramanga]

Ive been playing this for about... 6hrs now :) Damn good. I also got a crash in the gaem which totally froze up my computer, monitor went into standby etc... Almost killed it i think!

Wendelius - Good spot with the score! :) Just been flicking through its absolute genius.. love it.

[Joffy]

Okay, my PC version has crashed twice now. Great, now I remember why I don't do PC games. Both crashes took place in the same room, at the start of the medical pavilion. One crash was when trying to save, one crash was when initiating a hack on a vending machine. And each time, it resets all graphics/sound settings to default next time I load.

I hope this isn't the start of a trend :(

I've not had any PC crashes so far and have done the part you mentioned. Must be hardware issues or something you've got running in the background?.

[tezmo]

my £0.02: as a general rule I'm never really genuinely engaged by a game - its usually more about the anticipation and the tech demo than about the gaming for me, but with Bioshock events are sufficiently compelling that I have restarted and upped the difficulty level for fear of the experience being over too quickly - awesome stuff.

[mjpartyboy]

2K have put the soundtrack up for free download, I assume it's the same as what's on the CD in the Collector's Edition:

http://downloads.2kgames.com/bioshock/BioShock_Score.zip

[Damage Inc]

already posted, don't think i'll listen to it much outside of the game though.

[mikegray]

PC version from Game still AWOL. Anyone else still waiting?

[Moldiver]

anyone having frame rate troubles on the xbox 360 version? Mine's just gone totally to hell toward the end of the fort frolic level where you have to do the masterpiece thing. Not sure if it's down to all the big daddies i've killed that are lying around or not, but I would thought odd if so. It's been running perfect up til this point but now stuttering terribly. I'm hoping it clears up after this stage.

[wysiwyg]

Ive noticed there is an option for frame rate in the options screen on 360 version. Maybe worth looking at?

[Moldiver]

No it's not that. That's always switched off. You get tearing otherwise. The problem has just this moment cleared up though, just as I finished the masterpiece task. Be interested to hear if anyone else has issues with it when they get to that stage.

[GAmbrose]

I'm past that and had no issues.

Usually the 360 only struggles when it's on the way out.

Gary A

[ShakeyJake]

I don't remember any issues then, but I might not have noticed if there were a lot of splicers to deal with

[Grant666uk]

can you change your skills back and forth. I have just found a door blocked by ice but cant set my fire skill to the left trigger. How do I change them over.

[Digital]

can you change your skills back and forth. I have just found a door blocked by ice but cant set my fire skill to the left trigger. How do I change them over.

You need to find a Gene Bank, so you can swap your plasmids around.

[Grant666uk]

You need to find a Gene Bank, so you can swap your plasmids around.

cheers mate. Not seen one of them yet. Will keep a eye out.

[MetalGearAl]

can you change your skills back and forth. I have just found a door blocked by ice but cant set my fire skill to the left trigger. How do I change them over.
I've done the same, should have seen that before getting Telekinesis! At the moment there's no Gene Bank on the map but hopefully one will pop up soon.

[scaramanga]

2K have put the soundtrack up for free download, I assume it's the same as what's on the CD in the Collector's Edition:

http://downloads.2kgames.com/bioshock/BioShock_Score.zip

Nah, the CD with the collectors ed is a bag of *******. You get 3 tracks, one of which is a dance remix of 'under the sea' :nono:

The actual OST is amazing!!

[Savagexii]

2K have put the soundtrack up for free download, I assume it's the same as what's on the CD in the Collector's Edition:

http://downloads.2kgames.com/bioshock/BioShock_Score.zip

The download is the complete soundtrack from the game it seems, whereas the collectors edition only came with 3 remixed moby tracks.

EDIT: Beaten to it. :)

[Creamstick]

PC version from Game still AWOL. Anyone else still waiting?

Still waiting on the 360 version from ASDA. Posted Wednesday.

[Rip Curl]

Got my PC version from Amazon this morning, ordered it yesterday. Great game, plus with my new PC I have everything maxed on graphics with DX10.

The water looks fantastic.

[anephric]

OK, once you get the camera and research enemies properly it's a helluva lot easier in Hard to nail the Big Daddies. They're dropping like big, fat flies now.

I played this constantly for 8 hours yesterday, whilst sitting in an ever-widening pool of my own filth, and, yeah, it does get very samey in a way that something like Deus Ex or whatever doesn't. And, I tell thee, I'm absolutely sick of hacking stuff now. Playing in Hard is a bit stingy with the dollars, so you can't buyout the hacks too much because you need them to buy health, and auto-hacking tools aren't that plentiful, even if you abuse the U-Invent machines, so you need to hack A LOT. And IT'S BORING.

And why do you get exactly the same animation when you rescue a Little Sister every time? They could've had a bit of variety. Otherwise, this is v. good. A bit samey, perhaps.

Wait, I'm agreeing with Edge!

[damell]

I'm gonna get round to playing this soon, but from playing the demo and looking at trailers, someone please tell me the majority of this game isn't set in dark corridors or I'll be very, very disappointed.

[anephric]

Yes, it's very dark. And corridory.

[Rip Curl]

I don't think it has the same level of darkness that what Doom3 had, at least not in the places I have been.

[anephric]

I dunno, I've configured the gamma according to how the game wants and I think I'm getting glaucoma from squinting into the gloom so hard trying to see where splicers are lurking. I even upped the gamma over the recommended level because I just couldn't see well enough.

[damell]

Why. Why would they do that.

[mklion123]

OK, once you get the camera and research enemies properly it's a helluva lot easier in Hard to nail the Big Daddies. They're dropping like big, fat flies now.

I played this constantly for 8 hours yesterday, whilst sitting in an ever-widening pool of my own filth, and, yeah, it does get very samey in a way that something like Deus Ex or whatever doesn't. And, I tell thee, I'm absolutely sick of hacking stuff now. Playing in Hard is a bit stingy with the dollars, so you can't buyout the hacks too much because you need them to buy health, and auto-hacking tools aren't that plentiful, even if you abuse the U-Invent machines, so you need to hack A LOT. And IT'S BORING.

And why do you get exactly the same animation when you rescue a Little Sister every time? They could've had a bit of variety. Otherwise, this is v. good. A bit samey, perhaps.

Wait, I'm agreeing with Edge!

Found the same with the hacking, felt they could have autohacked when you get good enough, and counteracted that with something else?

I'm guessing that they ran out of space with the animation's, one of the minor limitations of dual layer.

[john316]

I'm guessing that they ran out of space with the animation's, one of the minor limitations of dual layer.

:lol:

[mjpartyboy]

I'm guessing that they ran out of space with the animation's, one of the minor limitations of dual layer.
Clearly a case here for this being on a BD-50. :lol:

[Digital]

Well that's done, already finished it going down the route of rescuing the little sisters, now time to start again.

[JohnMac]

I've completed Bioshock. I rescued all the Little Sisters and I've ended up with 820 achievement points. However, I was robbed of 50 achievement points because I have 53 tonics with no achievement. Also, those weapons upgrade machines are hard to find.

Edit: False alarm with the 53 tonics achievement. I wasn't counting them correctly. I think I need to buy, find or invent 3 more.

[Matt KB]

The Big Daddy's are big time fags, they go down faster than Paris after only a short time playing.

[Drysolder]

The Big Daddy's are big time fags, they go down faster than Paris after only a short time playing.

The Rosie's are a lot easier to take down than the Bouncer, not sure why there are more Rosie's in the game than Bouncer's though.

Other than that, take it off Easy. ;)

[Moldiver]

I've completed Bioshock. I rescued all the Little Sisters and I've ended up with 820 achievement points. However, I was robbed of 50 achievement points because I have 53 tonics with no achievement. Also, those weapons upgrade machines are hard to find.

Edit: False alarm with the 53 tonics achievement. I wasn't counting them correctly. I think I need to buy, find or invent 3 more.

I've clocked it aswell. Pretty big game actually. Every time I thought I was near the end another huge map turned up. Disc got a bit crazy at times though, the xbox has scratched it a little. Disappointed I never got the radio collector achievement as I thought I scoured the place good, though there were one or two rooms that I couldn't get to: one in the tea gardens which is a locked door, but on the map a tiny room shows up behind it and the other you needed to have a key from chompy's dentist I think, but i couldn't find that anywhere.

I'll play through on hard next time and get rid of all the little sisters.

[ShakeyJake]

I saw one those cassette things under some stairs but I couldn't work out how to get at it, and telekinesis wouldn't grab it :(

[mr_woo]

I dunno, I've configured the gamma according to how the game wants and I think I'm getting glaucoma from squinting into the gloom so hard trying to see where splicers are lurking. I even upped the gamma over the recommended level because I just couldn't see well enough.


I've got mine set at the recommended level and it's nice and bright enough for me, no trouble in seeing anything and this is on an LCD tv which can sometimes be a pain in the arse for seeing in the dark.

[Moldiver]

I saw one those cassette things under some stairs but I couldn't work out how to get at it, and telekinesis wouldn't grab it :(

I know the one you mean. I wandered about for a bit until I found a way to it.

just around the right of the staircase is a crawlspace. it's almost impossible to see in blackness, but just have a closer look and you should be able to find it

[ajr90]

and the other you needed to have a key from chompy's dentist I think, but i couldn't find that anywhere.

That had me stumped for a few minutes, but then I twigged to the solution. Afterwards I was kicking myself as it is a little obvious. :)

[ShakeyJake]

I know the one you mean. I wandered about for a bit until I found a way to it.

just around the right of the staircase is a crawlspace. it's almost impossible to see in blackness, but just have a closer look and you should be able to find it

Ooh excellent. I'll have to backtrack a bit but I don't think I moved on too far :thumbs:

It's the bit where you

need to get the parts for the EMP bomb

[The Chad]

Ooh excellent. I'll have to backtrack a bit but I don't think I moved on too far :thumbs:

It's the bit where you

need to get the parts for the EMP bomb

Yeah I wondered how to get that one too, will grab it on my next play through. Wonder if you have to collect them all in one run or if you can just collect the ones you missed the first time round

[Harsin]

So are you supposed to be playing a midget, seriously walk up to a fruit machine or something.

Or is it an unintended side-effect of the wonky widescreen? :razz:

[Drysolder]

I've clocked it aswell. Pretty big game actually. Every time I thought I was near the end another huge map turned up. Disc got a bit crazy at times though, the xbox has scratched it a little. Disappointed I never got the radio collector achievement as I thought I scoured the place good, though there were one or two rooms that I couldn't get to: one in the tea gardens which is a locked door, but on the map a tiny room shows up behind it and the other you needed to have a key from chompy's dentist I think, but i couldn't find that anywhere.

I'll play through on hard next time and get rid of all the little sisters.

If you killed one of the main characters instead of saving him earlier in the game, it closes off a portion of the end game to you.

[kohoutec]

So are you supposed to be playing a midget, seriously walk up to a fruit machine or something.

Or is it an unintended side-effect of the wonky widescreen? :razz:

Heh, I thought exactly the same thing when I first came across a fruity

[Matt KB]

The ending:

I killed only 1 Little Sister, when the game ended the woman said I took what I wanted, and all the Splicers got to the surface - bit downbeat. Presumably there's a good ending if you rescue every one of them?

[swanny]

So are you supposed to be playing a midget, seriously walk up to a fruit machine or something.

Or is it an unintended side-effect of the wonky widescreen? :razz:

Interesting you say that. When I first started playing I kept thinking I had hit the crouch button by mistake.

[dannywonderful]

you needed to have a key from chompy's dentist I think, but i couldn't find that anywhere.


I had to miss that one. Looked all over the map and couldn't see it. :(

[anephric]

You need to use your mind. Lit-er-ally.

There's nothing much in there anyway.

[dannywonderful]

You need to use your mind. Lit-er-ally.

There's nothing much in there anyway.

Do you mean TK the key on the wall? I tried that and it hit the boards and just wobbled there untill I had to let go of the trigger. That's annoying if that was the solution. :|

[mr_woo]

Finally finished this and what a bloody well fantastic game it is, enjoyed it immensely. It's near enough a cert to be game of the year for me and in my top 10, loved it to bits.

Now time to get some sleep :D

[Chris W]

you played till ~6am. respect!!!

[TonyG]

Been away the last couple of days, so only had my first session last night. Despite being knackered & telling myself I need to get to bed early, I had a four hour session slowly searching everywhere & covering every inch of the map & eventually called it a night after having my first Big Daddy firefight.

Absolutely fantastic stuff so far, easily living up to the hype & quickly advancing highly up my "Best game of the year" list. :thumbs:

[anephric]

you played till ~6am. respect!!!

Unfortunately I was still playing until 20 mins ago, and would have played through to completion if my 360 didn't keep crashing every time the game so much as sniffed a loading screen.

[mikegray]

Is there a good place to wait for the Houdini Splicers as it seems to be taking me ages to find the Chlorophyll I need.

[Drysolder]

The ending:

I killed only 1 Little Sister, when the game ended the woman said I took what I wanted, and all the Splicers got to the surface - bit downbeat. Presumably there's a good ending if you rescue every one of them?

Yep...

The Little Sisters are saved, and live out the rest of their lives as normal people.

[Matt KB]

Yep...

The Little Sisters are saved, and live out the rest of their lives as normal people.

I can't believe just because one dies they all cut of their noses to spite their faces, you'd think they'd just build her a shrine or something and then go live it up a bit. Some people want everything.:p

[lukehawkins]

I got this game on fri and i must say that it is amazing! Top stuff, quick question. If i kill a big daddy when it has no little sister with it does that mean at some point i will find the little sister alone to harvest? Or will another big daddy respawn with her?

[fivebyfive]

I got this game on fri and i must say that it is amazing! Top stuff, quick question. If i kill a big daddy when it has no little sister with it does that mean at some point i will find the little sister alone to harvest? Or will another big daddy respawn with her?


big daddy's respawn after a while, if you find one alone follow him to a little sister tunnel, the BD will bang on the tunnel and LS will climb out (as long you not have saved/killed them all) check in the start menu

---

question (spoiler for near the end after making the bomb)

why does Andrew ryan get you to kill him? he has control over you then you are going OJ on him with the golf club.

[Drysolder]

question (spoiler for near the end after making the bomb)

why does Andrew ryan get you to kill him? he has control over you then you are going OJ on him with the golf club.

The answer to that question is revealed in the very first frame of the game when you're sitting on the plane... :thumbs: :lol:

[MetalGearAl]

Blimey you lot play games fast, I've only had 2 sessions on this since Friday. Only 2 Big Daddies down so far :)

Playing on hard I'm choosing to save the Little Sisters - am I just asking for trouble? :)

[Drysolder]

Just had an oh crap! moment...

Fighting a couple of splicers, hide round a corner to reload, jump back in and take the shot to take the last one out and fire straight into a Big Daddy! Then all hell breaks loose!!

Wow, the little moments with this game... awesome! :lol:

[JohnMac]

I've still got 1 tonic and 1 weapons upgrade machine to find. Very hard to find two things in a game this size so I'll probably settle for 880 achievement points for now. But I'll definitely be playing through the game again on hard difficulty at a later date.

[SqueakyG]

I'm so annoyed and unhappy right now. My PC version keeps crashing. The first level (like the demo) was absolutely fine and stable, but now I'm in the second level (the medical pavilion), it crashes most times I try to save, some times I initiate a hack, and hangs when I try to quit the game as well. As you can imagine, a game that crashes most times you attempt to save is not a trustworthy experience.

My system is fairly clean and new. New Vista PC last month. I think all the drivers are fine. I'm not very techie, so I'm not going to waste too much time reinstalling everything just to get a game to work. But I think everything should be fine.

I guess I'll go to town on Tuesday and pick up the 360 version instead (and hope it doesn't crash equally as much with dirty disc errors). So much for my bank holiday weekend of Bioshock :(

[fivebyfive]

The answer to that question is revealed in the very first frame of the game when you're sitting on the plane... :thumbs: :lol:


I'll have a look at the intro again

I know that your character was sent to kill Ryan but it would make more sense to have only atlas/frank to control the main character

[theambient]

Im onto the Fontaine Fisheries level, after the medical pavillion one. Is it just me or does it get way harder at this point? Does anyone have any tips because i'm getting nowhere. The enemies seem to respawn at the rate im moving too! argh

[mr_woo]

I restarted this on hard and when it came to the first

either saving or harvesting the first little sister choice, even though I rescued them all the first time around and decided to harvest them this time through, when I actually harvested the first one I felt so guilty I restarted from my last save and saved her!! :lol:

[vast_girth]

Im onto the Fontaine Fisheries level, after the medical pavillion one. Is it just me or does it get way harder at this point? Does anyone have any tips because i'm getting nowhere. The enemies seem to respawn at the rate im moving too! argh


It gets a lot easier when you get hold of the research camera....

[vast_girth]

I'm so annoyed and unhappy right now. My PC version keeps crashing. The first level (like the demo) was absolutely fine and stable, but now I'm in the second level (the medical pavilion), it crashes most times I try to save, some times I initiate a hack, and hangs when I try to quit the game as well. As you can imagine, a game that crashes most times you attempt to save is not a trustworthy experience.

My system is fairly clean and new. New Vista PC last month. I think all the drivers are fine. I'm not very techie, so I'm not going to waste too much time reinstalling everything just to get a game to work. But I think everything should be fine.

I guess I'll go to town on Tuesday and pick up the 360 version instead (and hope it doesn't crash equally as much with dirty disc errors). So much for my bank holiday weekend of Bioshock :(



If your running vista i think both nvida and ati have new beta drivers especially tailored for bioshock...

[mklion123]

I restarted this on hard and when it came to the first

either saving or harvesting the first little sister choice, even though I rescued them all the first time around and decided to harvest them this time through, when I actually harvested the first one I felt so guilty I restarted from my last save and saved her!! :lol:

you sir are a wuss;)

[mr_woo]

you sir are a wuss;)


I know :(

[Harsin]

Anyone get the 'Irony' achievement?

[mikegray]

Anyone get the 'Irony' achievement?

Yep. :)

Then I re-loaded and didn't do the thing that gets you that achievment because it gets you a plasmid.

[mr_woo]

When it comes to the research camera how do you

fully research a splicer ? Do you take more than one photo or is there something else to it ?

I barely used the camera except for when I had to.

[Harsin]

Just keep taking photos of a particular type.

[The Chad]

Yeah with the research you need to fill the bar up 3 times to fully research each type, you get more points for action shots so always good to get a shot as they start to attack.

[Grandmaster]

Really enjoying this - it's a supremely accomplished game. But I'm really having trouble figuring out why it's got so many 10/10s.

[Savagexii]

Finished it on Hard today finally, I found the ending to be far too easy and far too short.

I'll be sure to have a go at reloading one of the final save points later and have a look around again.

Great game though, I really enjoyed the majority of it, and I'm certain I missed a fair few secrets etc.

[JohnMac]

Yep. :)

Then I re-loaded and didn't do the thing that gets you that achievment because it gets you a plasmid.

Is that a plasmid or a tonic? The reason I ask is that I'm still missing 1 tonic to get an achievement.

[mikegray]

Is that a plasmid or a tonic? The reason I ask is that I'm still missing 1 tonic to get an achievement.

Pass. I'm not quite sure I know. It might be a tonic, actually. It's in the glass case in that room.

[GAmbrose]

Completed today on hard with 795 achievement points.

Question for people who harvested the girls

Does the german woman still help you out after you kill Ryan and fall down the vent shaft, despite you killing all her girls, and thus is the entire last quarter of the game different? Or is it simply a different ending?

Gary A

[GAmbrose]

If you killed one of the main characters instead of saving him earlier in the game, it closes off a portion of the end game to you.

Explain please, I killed the artist guy when I could have let him live...is that the bit?

Gary A

[mikegray]

Completed today on hard with 795 achievement points.

Question for people who harvested the girls

Does the german woman still help you out after you kill Ryan and fall down the vent shaft, despite you killing all her girls, and thus is the entire last quarter of the game different? Or is it simply a different ending?

Gary A

Just got to that part and yes, she does help you although the children make comments about you being scary - I take it they like you in the version where you didn't harvest them?

[lukehawkins]

Completed today on hard with 795 achievement points.

Question for people who harvested the girls

Does the german woman still help you out after you kill Ryan and fall down the vent shaft, despite you killing all her girls, and thus is the entire last quarter of the game different? Or is it simply a different ending?

Gary A

Yeah she still helps u out, i have harvested every girl thus far and am now at the end and yes she does still help u out.

[GAmbrose]

Just got to that part and yes, she does help you although the children make comments about you being scary - I take it they like you in the version where you didn't harvest them?

Yeah, they call you their saviour and stuff like that.

Gary A

[Harsin]

Explain please, I killed the artist guy when I could have let him live...is that the bit?

Gary A

If you let him live then apparently you can follow him back to his apartment for an achivement. You can also get an achievement by taking a piccy of him when he's dead.

[JohnMac]

I've done a bit of research into my missing Tonic and last weapons upgrade machine:
The missing tonic is Armoured Shell 2 which is supposedly given to you as the second gift for rescuing the Little Sisters. I obviously forgot to pick it up and I've visited a few of the Gatherer Gardens but I've yet to find it. Perhaps there is one in an obscure place or I've yet to find it.

The missing weapons upgrade machine might be in the basement of Sinclair Spirits (Poseidon Plaza, Fort Frolic) as there is a dark shaded area on the map and I don't think I've been into the basement. How do I get in there? Of course, if there's also another Gatherer Garden in there with my missing tonic, all the better...

[GAmbrose]

I just found that area JohnMac...there is a little button behind the actual bar.

Gary A

[MetalGearAl]

I know :(
It's ok, I'm the same. I saved it and tried the Harvest method just to see what it was like and felt quite guilty about it. I'd already decided to try saving them all anyway, mind :)

Getting into it now, it's ruddy tricky on Hard and I'm dying *lots* but there doesn't seem to be a huge consequence for dying. In some stages I'm hugely low on Eve but have loads of health, and in others it's quite the reverse!

[JohnMac]

I just found that area JohnMac...there is a little button behind the actual bar.

Gary A

Thanks very much, that did the trick for finding the last ammo upgrade.

Edit: Just got to find that last tonic now.

[Jedibitch]

what a great game, the attention to detail is wonderful!!!

saved 5 girls so far, god it was tempting to harvest!

[ajr90]

I must be doing something wrong. All these people saying "I jumped straight in at hard because otherwise it's quite easy", and here I am playing on medium, and the first time I meet a Big Daddy he creams me. Repeatedly. The *one* time I managed to kill him the little sister had vanished and another Big Daddy spawned in his place. :cry:

Are there any tips for fighting them, or do I just really, really suck?

[internetuser]

With the wife being away I bought this on friday. and finished it today, took about 12-13 hours in total. With a massive 7 ish hours today. Translated about 2 months of gaming if the wife was home.

Big game, but I am not sure about the 10/10 scores, it is a stunning visual and audio games, but it seems pretty samey. find this, shoot that etc.

It got to the point when I was sort of wishing it would be over. I got sick of the slow re arming of wepons tho. And some of the clues were abit vauge. It took me ages to find a lift code at one point near the end.

the final boss reminded me of the end of tomb raider legend too for some reason.

Storey is abit strange, as I lost the plot half way thorugh (although that could have being the stella in last night session)

Do not think I could bring myself to replay it again, but it was a good game. I tend to get bored quickly and this did pass the hours. Esp today, with the, ok I will play just till 2pm, then 3pm etc.

[mikegray]

Four grenades should pretty much see off a Big Daddy.

[internetuser]

I found the crossbow did him in about 3-4 shots too

[mjpartyboy]

I've still got 1 tonic and 1 weapons upgrade machine to find. Very hard to find two things in a game this size
Is it possible to go back to areas you've already completed then?

[JohnMac]

Is it possible to go back to areas you've already completed then?

Yes, just use the bathysphere and choose where you want to go with the d-pad.

[RobDickinson]

OK not far into it yet but havea few questions..

1) I assum even to save the little girl (and not harvest) I have to kill her big daddy?

2) How do I get/buy more slots for plasmids?

3) wheres the camera for research, I'm up to start of the fish level.

4) Grenades, where? find many grenade boxes no grenades...

[MetalGearAl]

Four grenades should pretty much see off a Big Daddy.
Take it you're not playing on Hard then? Need plenty more than that to see them off there.

[Rip Curl]

I'm so annoyed and unhappy right now. My PC version keeps crashing. The first level (like the demo) was absolutely fine and stable, but now I'm in the second level (the medical pavilion), it crashes most times I try to save, some times I initiate a hack, and hangs when I try to quit the game as well. As you can imagine, a game that crashes most times you attempt to save is not a trustworthy experience.

My system is fairly clean and new. New Vista PC last month. I think all the drivers are fine. I'm not very techie, so I'm not going to waste too much time reinstalling everything just to get a game to work. But I think everything should be fine.

I guess I'll go to town on Tuesday and pick up the 360 version instead (and hope it doesn't crash equally as much with dirty disc errors). So much for my bank holiday weekend of Bioshock :(

Dunno what make of GPU your using but update the drivers, like what has been said, and advised by the game when you install it on vista.

I am playing on a 8800GTX, Quad core (OC) and Vista Ultimate 32. I haven't had a single crash, and i have been through that level and beyond. Infact I haven't had a new build as solid as this one in a long time.

[Rip Curl]

Take it you're not playing on Hard then? Need plenty more than that to see them off there.

With the camera you get lots of bonus's.

[Rip Curl]

saved 5 girls so far, god it was tempting to harvest!

I take it you get achievment points for saving girls on the 360 for this? I kill all that I come across on my PC (FPS on my 360 = 0)

[JohnMac]

I take it you get achievment points for saving girls on the 360 for this? I kill all that I come across on my PC (FPS on my 360 = 0)
You get 40 achievement points for dealing with all the Little Sisters (rescue or harvest).
You get 100 more for saving all the Little Sisters.

[Rip Curl]

You get 40 achievement points for dealing with all the Little Sisters (rescue or harvest).
You get 100 more for saving all the Little Sisters.
Press the start button while playing to see how many you have saved and how many are still protected by a Big Daddy on that level.

Not got it for my 360. I have the PC version.

Was curious why people where so focused on saving them, seems I was right in my assumption, points!

Cheers.

[anephric]

Take it you're not playing on Hard then? Need plenty more than that to see them off there.

It's definitely a struggle in Hard when you haven't got the camera for damage modifiers - when I didn't have the crossbow I fired off all my grenades/armour-piercing rounds at him and made sure I had something in between him and me to dance around so I could get hits in with the shotgun (it does a fair bit of damage to him up close). When you get the trap bolts, even the Elite Bouncers (which strip nearly a whole bar of health off you with each hit) are pretty easy.

I finished Hard today and didn't get the maxed weapons achievement (missed two, how I don't know as I explored EVERYWHERE) and I forgot to research the nitro splicers fully (slipped my mind, thought I'd done them all). I got Armoured Shell 2 but obviously I'm missing the tonic you get for the Nitro Splicers. Ho-hum. I was going to go back and play this through in Normal to mince the Little Sisters rather than save them, but I just started playing again (it really is much easier in Normal - it throws health and Eve and ammo at you) and I just can't face doing all the hacking again. It's soooo ******* tedious. Same goes for finding all the diaries (which I tried wholeheartedly to do - a lot are hidden in bins and such and I don't have the will to search them all again).

[Rip Curl]

Play it on the PC....none of this cock waving then.

[JohnMac]

Have you got a save game from near the end that you can use to go back and do all the extra stuff?

[RobDickinson]

Play it on the PC....none of this cock waving then.



Isnt it a 'game for windows' whatever and I thought they had all the acheivments in too?

[anephric]

Have you got a save game from near the end that you can use to go back and do all the extra stuff?

Yeah, a few. To be honest I was planning to just do it all again in Normal but I got the fear as soon as I started hacking again. I had to overwrite a few saves as well because something very screwy happened after the Cohen section: it wouldn't stop playing the "danger" music from the fight with the splicers when you put the third picture in his masterpiece and the framerate just went bizarre - like when you try to play Pal Halo in 60hz. It just stuttered, regular as clockwork, every few seconds, even with framerate unlocked. I even went to loads of other different parts of Rapture to see if loading other bits in would stop whatever issue it was having. Nope.

I also didn't get the jackpot achievement, even though I spent about a grand trying (which was a big deal at that point in Hard, I needed that money) - you need three dollar signs, right? Couldn't get it.

[JohnMac]

There are a couple of extra achievements for the PC version:

Get your PC to run the game = 50 points
Saved game or hacked something without crashing = 50 points

[anephric]

Moan on Irrational forums about rootkits = 100 points.

[RobDickinson]

oooh so easy to achieve, I may have to buy the PC version now...

[anephric]

Whilst faffing about exploring looking for me missing diaries I'm really noticing the pop-in problems this game has. Just to put on my Annoying Graphics Pedant Hat, I had assumed my drive was on the way out (since The Darkness seems to load really slow too) but after enduring the poppiest of pop-in in Ft. Frolic (sometimes you can stand next to a model and it'll take 2-3 seconds to load in its texture) I've read loads of other moaners whinging about it too. Why do all Unreal3 games have such cacky streaming? Fatal Inertia looks horrific due to it. It's like a pop-up book.

[RobDickinson]

Streaming (first used on Gears I think) allows them more flexibility with textures through the game, i.e. they cant keep the whole levels worth of graphics in ram, so they stream some.

obviously its less than perfect as yet..:D

[anephric]

It was only really bad in Ft. Frolic for some reason (admittedly it's a pretty big area). Signs not loading in their detail until you're a few feet from them, Big Daddies marching about flat-shaded, that kind of deal.

I can deal with it, but come 65nm time I'll be trading in to get my hands on that faster Benq drive too.

[Grandmaster]

Any one else notice their 360 running a lot quieter when playing this game? It only seems to spin up the drive when it needs to, as opposed to the constant warp 9 it goes at when I play just about any other game.

[sirp]

my fav graphics oversight

being the big daddy and running back through all the levels, you can walk through gaps about a foot wide! I guess they thought nobody would go to any other levels once dressed as the big boy!

[maddogsuk]

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