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Noooooooooooooooooo
Am watchin Back to the future on itv and the stupidist stuff is being cut for example.
'wooo wooo all i want is a pepsi'
and
'hey look' followed my him puchin Biff
What is going on this is an outrage.
Anybody else notice it?
:(
Yea i know :rolleyes:, looks like we need the DVD more then ever!
Thats the reason I wont watch films on normal TV, plus the adverts.
Originally posted by butters
Thats the reason I wont watch films on normal TV, plus the adverts.
As well as than the poorer sound and wrong ratios on BBC 1 and ITV 1??
to be fair to them ratios are handled much better these days - bttf2 was 1.85:1 into 16:9 today - a ratio change i dont think you can complain too much about....and channel 4 almost always get the ratios right, even the 2.35:1 stuff.......
Originally posted by tezmo
to be fair to them ratios are handled much better these days - bttf2 was 1.85:1 into 16:9 today - a ratio change i dont think you can complain too much about....and channel 4 almost always get the ratios right, even the 2.35:1 stuff.......
I deliberately left out C4 as I recognize them as the true Champion of Movie broadcasting - nearly all of their movies shown in their correct ratios and in the case of Hard Boiled a couple of weeks back, a transmission arguably better than the DVD version of it!
Davester
26-12-2001, 17:36
Typical. The beeb and ITV are crap. nough said.
Steve1977
26-12-2001, 20:17
I absolutely hate it when movies credits are sped up as well.
Why Oh WHY DO they bother to put films on at all?? thank god for cable &dvds. maybe they should remove the football &replace it with a proper flim channel?:clap:
Originally posted by frog338
Why Oh WHY DO they bother to put films on at all?? thank god for cable &dvds. maybe they should remove the football &replace it with a proper flim channel?:clap:
Be gone you mad man!!!! Replace Sky Sports with a movie channel? - you are more insane than the guy who won't buy R1 or R4 DVDs because he thinks it is illegal!!
Remove itv digital sports(does anybody watch?)loseing loads of dosh! leave the sports to skys sports channels.oh & by the way there some of us who DO NOT LIKE FOOTBALL!22 MEN CHASEING EACH OTHER AROUND, WHATS THAT ALL ABOUT THEN?i I think thats an excuse to play whos got the soap come shower time.:argue:
Originally posted by frog338
(does anybody watch?)
theres the champions league....
tj_director
26-12-2001, 22:24
i personally don't mind adverts in the odd film -- it's a good comprimise between missing out scenes when going to the bog or getting something to eat. And i'm probably the only one who doesn't mind a 2.35 film being cropped to a 1:85 -- it's also a good comprimise for the film buff viewers and the average guy. And at the end of the day you aren't really missing out too much picture wise, and in my opinion a film translates better when you are able to see a person's face more clearer (i.e. bigger on the screen). The bigger the image the better after all!!
it certainly beats a 4:3 conversion of a 2:35 which quite frankly sucks!!!
as for the cutting of BTTF2 -- it's pretty ridiculous!!! seeing how it's a PG film. Worst is in America and in some Asian countries where they'll show a film like American Pie or Basic Instinct in the middle of the day, and they will truly cut it down to PG rating -- leaving a quite hideous mess, and the question -- "what was the freakin point!!!" If you're going to complain about the content of a film, why would you decide to watch it in the first place!!! or put it during a time when the audience isn't suitable??
sometimes i just don't understand TV -- then The Simpsons, Seinfeld or Gabbie Yorath comes on, and all previous complaints vanish just like that!!! :clap:
Panavision
27-12-2001, 10:25
Cropping from 2.35:1 anamorphic to 1.85:1 bothers me, still panning and scanning, but sometimes I can live with it if the film is rare.
When did Channel4 start showing 2.35:1? Are you talking about FilmFour?
ITV did show the full uncut version, it's just that when marty when back in time, he inadvertently interacted with someone or thing and thus changed the furute. Repeated visits to the past changed the film into what you saw in the present timeline.
Personally, I'm not going to watch any of the BTTF movies again until the boxset comes out as not to ruin my enjoyment....
Fortunately, I've only ever seen the first BTTF film and will wait until the full set on DVD before completing the trilogy.
After ITV utterly butchered Lethal Weapon a few years ago I resolved never to watch another movie on that channel.
I very rarely watch any movies on TV these days except if I'm highly unlikely to buy the DVD..... for whatever reason.
bill and ted (2) is on in a minute - i wonder how theyre going to mess that up?
its 4:3 p&s for a start.....
Originally posted by tj_director
as for the cutting of BTTF2 -- it's pretty ridiculous!!! seeing how it's a PG film. Worst is in America and in some Asian countries where they'll show a film like American Pie or Basic Instinct in the middle of the day, and they will truly cut it down to PG rating -- leaving a quite hideous mess, and the question -- "what was the freakin point!!!" If you're going to complain about the content of a film, why would you decide to watch it in the first place!!! or put it during a time when the audience isn't suitable??
BBC1 showed the US TV cut of Se7en a few months back; it was physically painful to watch. Every single "copulatory oath" (or "f-word" if you prefer) was removed, along with reams of violence and pretty much all of the lust scene (including the photo of the knife "attachment"); the swearing took tons of plot exposition with it, and to finish the massacre, it was panned & scammed to 4:3.
US TV networks show this crap all the time; ITV are indeed pretty much atrocious with films (BBC1 aren't prefect, but they're a vast improvement over the ITV debacles), but at least we have BBC2 and C4 on terrestrial for post-watershed uncut films. Those poor yanks have to fork out for the likes of HBO/Showtime to get similar.
Davester
27-12-2001, 19:22
Originally posted by Byron
BBC1 showed the US TV cut of Se7en a few months back; it was physically painful to watch. Every single "copulatory oath" (or "f-word" if you prefer) was removed, along with reams of violence and pretty much all of the lust scene (including the photo of the knife "attachment"); the swearing took tons of plot exposition with it, and to finish the massacre, it was panned & scammed to 4:3.
US TV networks show this crap all the time; ITV are indeed pretty much atrocious with films (BBC1 aren't prefect, but they're a vast improvement over the ITV debacles), but at least we have BBC2 and C4 on terrestrial for post-watershed uncut films. Those poor yanks have to fork out for the likes of HBO/Showtime to get similar. I would just buy the dvd's, saves getting let down by these channels. So many people are unaware of the mistakes they are making, hence it never changes!
inquisitor
27-12-2001, 22:04
Didn't ITV do a similar thing with Robocop years ago, where some demented executive decided that the film was entirely good Sunday afternoon fare - after editing out most of the film, of course?
And *did* they edit Bogus Journey? Because if they did, I'm buying the R1. There were only three ad breaks in Scottish region, though, which was interesting.
Originally posted by inquisitor
Didn't ITV do a similar thing with Robocop years ago, where some demented executive decided that the film was entirely good Sunday afternoon fare - after editing out most of the film, of course?
I think that was one of the more notorious incidents of a TV station cutting a film to fit their schedule, with such classic lines as....
"I once even called him... airhead "
:D
Unfortunately I didn't see this version - should've been a good laugh.
Originally posted by Davester
I would just buy the dvd's, saves getting let down by these channels. So many people are unaware of the mistakes they are making, hence it never changes!
As evidenced by the suave Se7eb disc, I do -- but with the likes of Blockbuster costing near £4 a pop to rent (up to around £6 with bus fares to the place taken into account), TV's a great medium to see a vast range of films I simply couldn't afford to otherwise (around 3 DVDs a month is about the most I can currently stretch to). So obviously it doesn't exactly help with making a decicion on a film's quality if they're shawn of half their content!
Herbie123
29-12-2001, 00:00
if any one has the itv cut of robocop watch it as its one of the most unintentionaly fuuny movies you'll see, terrible dubbing, awful cutting and terrible picture quality, its almost legendry among tv edits of a film. The scence where the robber is robbing the covient store and instead of saying **** me he says why me in the most ludicrus voice just has to be seen.
Originally posted by Herbie123
if any one has the itv cut of robocop watch it as its one of the most unintentionaly fuuny movies you'll see, terrible dubbing, awful cutting and terrible picture quality, its almost legendry among tv edits of a film. The scence where the robber is robbing the covient store and instead of saying **** me he says why me in the most ludicrus voice just has to be seen.
Sounds better and better ... but methinks those mods who aren't quite as into unfetted use of profanity as yourself will soon be descending onto your post!:D
Originally posted by Nirvana
Isn't profanity 'in the correct context' acceptable here? I thought I read something like that when the big swearing debate was going on.
That was mostly me and others saying that it should be acceptable; in the end we got the nice and efficient "ban the naughty words whatever the jusification" rule. ;)
Morpheus2000
30-12-2001, 16:50
When the BBC first showed Back to the Future the dubbed Marty's words in the final reals of the film.
A spoiler just in case you haven't seen the film:
Doc Brown comes back from the future and tells Marty there must be done about his children
Marty says "Do we become assholes?" They changed to it "Do we become nerds?"
Last time I saw Robocop on ITV, they had left the "**** me" bit in...the two times before, it was "why me???"
US Tv is great.....switched on around 8:30am and The Crow was on, with people getting killed left right and centre. The previous night, The Craft was on around 10pm, and a scene with a road accident was sliced, and a small piece on nudity had a black box covering the woman's breasts.....
Suprised ITV haven't started dubbing adverts in eg Instead of "**** me!!!!" in Robocop, he could have said "Buy Persil, Buy Persil!!!"....just a ludicrous!
rezabelady
30-12-2001, 18:17
Originally posted by Morpheus2000
When the BBC first showed Back to the Future the dubbed Marty's words in the final reals of the film.
A spoiler just in case you haven't seen the film:
Doc Brown comes back from the future and tells Marty there must be done about his children
Marty says "Do we become assholes?" They changed to it "Do we become nerds?"
i believe that that is actually a proper alternate take which was done for TV (although i think the word is something other than 'nerds')
They did indeed shot an alternate version utilising "jerks" instead of the original for US TV. As for the "**** me!" in Robocop ... very good, but did the other 50 or so f-words get left in?:D
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