Please affirm that s-video is a better quality picture than scarting.

[steb]

Thanks - to win a tenner !

[John_bones]

Component Video is the best followed by RGB which generally uses Scart connections. S-Video then follows very closely behind and that then leaves composite video.

Also S-Video can be transferred via a suitably wired scart lead.

[soberion]

It is. And it isn't.

It all depends on personal preference, the TV, the DVD player, the lead. There is no straight answer. Sorry.

Do I win the tenner then?;)

[John_bones]

I maybe should have said the concensus of opinion is....

If you have the same leads with the same equipment and try RGB against S-Video I found RGB suited me more using a fully wired QED Sqart.

[RobDickinson]

Originally posted by John_bones
Component Video is the best followed by RGB which generally uses Scart connections. S-Video then follows very closely behind and that then leaves composite video.

Also S-Video can be transferred via a suitably wired scart lead.

Steb, as john says :

Component better than
RGB better than
S-Video better than
Composite.


Scart can transmit composite, S-Video or RGB.

It all depends on your kit though and how it implements each.

[megabyte]

I prefer s-video-so it must be down to in my case personal taste.
Can i have my tenner in Euro's?
will get back to you on the exchange rate:nuts:
Conn

[Cable Monkey]

Steb,
having read your post and made the assumption that you are not fully aware of scart capabilities, I'm afraid I think you have lost £10! A scart can carry svideo, RGB and component in addition to bog standard composite. Therefore assuming you have equipment of the right capability, ignoring composite, scart is at least equal to a dedicated svideo connection. When you then add in the extra functionality scart brings, svideo then starts to fall behind.

[Ridcully]

Think you are slightly confused here, Steb.

S-video is a video format. Scart is a connection system for carry a video format and other info. Your question is like asking which is better e-mail or English, the're different thinks but slightly connected.

To break it down. Video formats, best first by eneral consensus

Component - RGB
S-video
Composite

Connection media. No really order but features are

Scart - Allows any of the video formats plus sound and other sgnals such as W/S
single cable - video only. one for each component of RGB
s video - video only no sound and no w/s signals

Scart is generally prefered because it is one cable for the connection and it includes W/S switching and the like, whatever the video format

[GarethH]

The TV plays the biggest part in the difference in RGB. I've found Sony TV's always look better connected through RGB, where as Panasonic look better via S-Video!

RGB ****** all over S-video on my TV (sony)

[dj1jacques]

:clap: :clap: i do agree with ridcully.

[homerjhandley]

I have a sony 24" ws tv. I use a sammy 7009 player.

when i used s-video i found it to be poor, with no clear definition and the colours didnt look right. that was with the supplied lead.

Using an IXOS scart (£too much) with RGB the pic is fantastic. pin sharp definition.

The problem i find is the picture sometimes goes patchy. So on a red wall the wall is not smooth but loks like a low coloured jpeg pic. I dont know if that is the dvd player being poor, the dvd disk encoding bad or the TV literally producing what it is given. S-vid is a bit more graduated so the pic is more smoothly shaded.

I have also read a while back that some tv's are so good at repoducing RGB pic that this happens, wheras some other tv's dont have this problem.

so for me

RGB

s-vid (easier if tv has a svid input on the front rather than trying to reach round the back of the tv)

Composite - easier if the tv only has a composite input!!!

:clap:

[M@T]

Cable Monkey
A scart can carry svideo, RGB and component in addition to bog standard composite.

Scart does not carry Component as from suitable DVD players with a 3 phono Y, Cb, Cr output.

Just to clear things up.;)

M@T

[megabyte]

Guess I'll be using RGB then when I get my WEGA.....
Santa :clap:
Conn

[johnsosn]

Theoretically,I'm not sure how S-vid can be as good as or better than RGB.

Your three colour signals are travelling down the same line.

You've simply got the crominance and luminance seperate.

I can only assume the tv's which look better with S-vid,have problems internally with RGB(due to design or otherwise)

[GarethH]

I noticed something on some TV's, especially Panasonic. If you look at the RED colour on RGB on a Sony TV, look how bright and vivid it is. Now look at it on a Panasonic, do you get the same look? Nope!

So johnsosn could be right....but Panasonic is a very good make, surely they can't have problems.

One person once said that Sony TV's keep the colours seperated on the internal wiring and design, where as many others intergrate them inside one wire. This would certianly explain why RGB is better on Sony's, but I'm not sure if its correct.

[Nick dVl]

homerjhandley,

Do red objects also look el-blocko when placed against, say, a black background? I seem to get this a lot with movies such as Superman and TS2, where vivid reds are contrasted against other colours... (Sony wega + 709)

[homerjhandley]

ON some films yup.

Its like having a 16Mil colur JPG then converting it to 256. areas of similar colour go blocky.


using svid usually makes the pic less defined, therefore reducing the blockiness.

but i am a 100% RGB bloke. it is VERY noticable on the carnival of souls FREE dvd from the dvd mag. when the area is very dark/green the dark bits are blocky with black/green areas.

Email me if you have any questions!

:)

[ZX81]

I'm confused now. so please help me get this straight (save me wasted trip downstairs to check this out)

My DVD has composite, s-video, and RGB. I gather RGB is useless to me unless I have some sort of projecter set up, right?

My TV has an S-Video button which switches the scart to S-video. I'm only guessing as whenever I've tried this pre-dvd it used to turn the picture black and white.

So if I press this button now with my dvd set to s-video output, will I see vast improvement in picture quality?

[Ridcully]

My DVD has composite, s-video, and RGB. I gather RGB is useless to me unless I have some sort of projecter set up, right?
No. Most TVs have RGB input on the first scart socket. So if you set the DVD to RGB and the TV has an RGB socket it will be the best.

If not your second idea is correct and set both to s-video as that is the next step down.

[ZX81]

Definitely thought this worthy of trip downstairs to try it out. Sadly, was V disappointed. First put my DVD into S-Video, the screen when a little fuzzy and a little faded. Then pressed my S-Video button. Aaarrgghh. It went black and white (crystal clear though). So next put the DVD into RGB and then switched TV back to normal. Was V unimpressed with picture. but will try some more disks tomorrow when I'm not so blurry eyed.

Any ideas why the S-Video is black and white? I've got the DVD going via scart through my VCR. Could this be the problem?

[kcxdev]

Originally posted by ZX81
Definitely thought this worthy of trip downstairs to try it out. Sadly, was V disappointed. First put my DVD into S-Video, the screen when a little fuzzy and a little faded. Then pressed my S-Video button. Aaarrgghh. It went black and white (crystal clear though). So next put the DVD into RGB and then switched TV back to normal. Was V unimpressed with picture. but will try some more disks tomorrow when I'm not so blurry eyed.

Any ideas why the S-Video is black and white? I've got the DVD going via scart through my VCR. Could this be the problem?

is the vid/dvd connected to AV1 (RGB) on the TV SCART? My TV (sony) does RGB on AV1 and S Vid on AV2, try swapping the scart around and then switch to S Vid (or try composite first and then switch so you can actually see whats happening on screen)

[pjweston]

Originally posted by ZX81
Any ideas why the S-Video is black and white? I've got the DVD going via scart through my VCR. Could this be the problem? Most VCRs only have a limited number of SCART pins wired up. Very few have the RGB pins connected and typically only SVHS VCRs have the s-video pins connected. Try it without using the VCR! If the direct connection works and you've no spare SCART connections on your TV then you'll need to buy a SCART switch (plenty of discussions on these in the forums if you look).

Originally posted by ZX81
So next put the DVD into RGB and then switched TV back to normal. Was V unimpressed with picture. but will try some more disks tomorrow when I'm not so blurry eyed.One SCART pin that is always connected is the composite video pin. So you were probably viewing composite video rather than RGB. Note that some TVs have to be told that they're getting RGB input on the SCART. On my old Sony, for instance, pressing the AV input button once gave composite input on AV1 (SCART) and pressing it again switched AV1 to RGB input.