View Full Version : 24 - SEASON 5 - EPISODE 13 7:00pm - 8:00pm ***Spoilers***
BigDavie2000
14-03-2006, 08:04
OMG :eek: :eek:
Tony DEAD!!!
Lynn dead.
Terrorists using all remaining toxin on one target.
New director coming in with a lacky that appears to have a dodgy mission. Are they in league with the terrorists?
Can't wait 'til next week.
Yeah they seem to be kiling all the people fom past seasons one by one
Great episode, slightly suprised to see Tony dead though! And Lynn! Now CTU going to be under homeland security control I reckon we will have to have some more vigilante work going on when they try to send people home :D
Trailer for next week looks good, but don't watch unless you want some big spoilers!
samuelowens
14-03-2006, 11:08
OMG OMG :eek:
What a way to (maybe) go!
Is Tony dead though? IMDB lists Carlos Bernard as being in the next three eps (although they were wrong with Kim; she didn't come on board for weeks after forecast on IMDB)...
FURTHER EDIT - scrap that - he's dead. See http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-deaths14mar14,1,593559.story (be warned - also has big Sopranos and Lost spoilers).
snow patrol
14-03-2006, 12:12
Is Tony dead though? IMDB lists Carlos Bernard as being in the next three eps (although they were wrong with Kim; she didn't come on board for weeks after forecast on IMDB)...
i really think this sort of thing should be in spoiler tags.
That's the most emotional episode of the season by a mile. "She's gone Jack, she's gone". Loved the double meaning there. It must have bought the whole Terri thing back to Jack :(
Oh yea, and Lynn convulsing and puking on the floor was quite disturbing! Brilliantly filmed. The sounds were plain nasty! :gag:
snow patrol
14-03-2006, 14:00
That's the most emotional episode of the season by a mile. "She's gone Jack, she's gone". Loved the double meaning there. It must have bought the whole Terri thing back to Jack :(
Oh yea, and Lynn convulsing and puking on the floor was quite disturbing! Brilliantly filmed. The sounds were plain nasty! :gag:
yeah when the other guy started breathing and went "i'm ok, i'm ok!!"...you just KNEW what was coming :lol:
GrossePointeJack
14-03-2006, 14:02
I know some people are saying he isn't dead because there wasn't a silent clock at the end, but I think that has more to do with the final scenes of the show than anything else. All the deaths with the silent clock have been quiet and with little or no dialogue. So throwing the clock noises in at the end is obtrusive. Here though there was music blaring and things were frantic.
Plus, according to the Fox recap he did indeed bite it.
I take your point but if Edgar waddling round a corner and comedy falling over warrants one then I'm damn sure Tony kicking the bucket should have got one.
How good was that !
Even better than last week me thinks !!!
Tony, Tony, Tony ! I cant believe you hesitated, as soon as he did my fella just went 'hes dead!' I wanted him to start kicking ass with Jack again ! RIP with Michelle !
We need Jack to get out there and kill some baddies now !
I love the president and his wife, thought I would hate them but they are great !
Poor Lynn, but he did deserve it as he didnt admit about the card, was terrible when the secuirty guard thought he was ok !!
I take your point but if Edgar waddling round a corner and comedy falling over warrants one then I'm damn sure Tony kicking the bucket should have got one.
Edgar's waddling has to be the comedy moment of the year ! :lol:
Bloody Hell!!!!!!
What are the odds on who will bite the dust next?!
Another superb episode, can this season get any better! Has anyone else noticed how much better the musical score seems to be this year too? And Peter Weller, is this man really Robocop?!?!? How did he seemingly survive all that stuff being pumped in him with little effect.
Excellent episode!! I was expecting a 'filler' after last week.
Loved the use of the whole breath holding thing for added tension!
Tony?? Hmm ok, I should feel gutted, but why don't I? :shrug: I was more upset over Edgar last week, to be honest I wasn't completely convinced by the fact he was dead at the end of this, not just because of lack of silent clock.
Audrey: "Are you ok?"
Jack: "No"
Brilliant :D
Fantastic end to the episode. Tony gone. Michelle gone. Palmer gone. Kim, presumably going. Who next? Don't like the 'homeland security crew'.... i guess Mike is going to have to help Jack and CTU out here on in.
Poor old Samwise bit it as well but nobody cares about him. :lol:
GrossePointeJack
14-03-2006, 17:07
Actually, his death was suprisingly grim. Compare it to Edgars last week where he had his little comedy waddle and then fell over. Astin actually seemed like he was in pain.
Henderson must have taken some sort of anti-sepressant to counter-act the effects of the injections.
Nah! He's just super-hard!!!! :D
Bloody 'ell!!! .... The bodycount of main-stars is getting out-of-control!! ... Sad to see Tony go, and what a crap way to go... No sympathy for Hobbit-boy although I was impressed with how nasty & prolonged his death was. :D
Had a chuckle at Kim finally highlighting she's aware of what a Jinx she is ... still deserves a good slap for the way she treated poor Jack. Overall a good episode.
They carry on at this rate and we'll be meeting new characters each week. I kinda feel that Kim will be immune to be killed off (someone quote me to no doubt prove me wrong next ep :D ) but she is the foil to Jack's emotional baggage. Having lost so many of the original cast the show is in serious danger of becoming even more 'Jack-centric'
As much as i'm loving this season i can't help but think it's all going to be to the detriment of later seasons.
deftones_030603
14-03-2006, 20:36
NOT TONY!!
Anybody but Tony....
:(
Laughed out loud when Kim asked Chloe how she was: "Well I woke up this morning in bed with a man I will probably never see again, and I have just watched my best friend die. So I am probably not having the best of days" or words to that effect.
Stunning plot twists, Robocop coming back to life was a real Misery moment. Have to say I thought it was going to be Bill that sacrified himself, so very surprised at Lynn, but I guess he did cause it so a karmic ending.
By the way, any reason all the CTU guards now wear red shirts? At the rate they are dying, they are like Star Trek security officers!
Dropping. Like. Flies.
NOOOOOOOOO!!!!! The Soul-Patch must live :cry:
I have to say that this season (the re-birth after 4's greatest hits compilation following from the kosovo operation trilogy) has been amazing for a large number of reasons, not least the deaths. palmer going - wow, amazingly surprising, whata shock. I coped. Michelle, hey, she's cool but not an original; nor's Edgar. But to kill the Soul-patch??????? How can they :(
Actually, I refuse to believe he's dead yet. I don't watch the teaser's for next week etc. so dunno if it elaboarets in that, but aside from the fact an original and great character didn't get the silent clock, he hasn't done anything this season. Why keep him alive? Could say it was to allow Robo-dude to escape (he is nearly as hard as Jack), or maybe to allow him some kind of death scene, but I reckon its a paly. I hope....
Losing Lynn was pretty bad too. Even a scene like that, with a guy we've never met and silly old lynn with his keycard losses, can make a guy weep.
Incredible TV. The best. Awesome.
I even LIKE the Pres these days. Wow. And Martha :O
All that's not to mention Kim effectively disowning her dad and leaving with a cougar-hair bearded man, Audrey's question to Jack and all the rest. So much happened.
Wow.
d80s0q
sparkyrob
14-03-2006, 20:56
Possibly the most emotional ending I've seen in 24...even better than Chapelle in season 3. Lynn had "I'm going to die" plastered all over him as soon as he admitted that he was the cause of the rest of the CTU carnage, but Tony? I'm gutted. Say what you want about 24, but it sure knows how to manipulate the viewer's emotions to stunning effect. Bravo.
36Degrees
14-03-2006, 21:01
I'd say Edgar's death was more emotional than Tonys, for the pure reason you forgot (for about half a minute) about him then he came on screen and you were like ... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EDGAR
Tony's death though was completely unexpected... the target though? What would warrent massive casualties at 8pm at night? At best I'm thinking the Senate(?) but I'm not too sure, seemed high profile enough to be some legislative branch of Government...
Unless it becomes like Season 4 where we spend 4 hours until they explicitaly say what the target is...
Kiefer, he was brilliant, him and Audrey's dialogue of
"Are you ok?"
"No"
and Kiefer giving his general WE DONT HAVE TIME speech,
Kiefer on Lost would be brilliant, everything on that Island would be dead except for him in a matter of minutes...
I think we should all just "breathe".
quick Q - why 'soul patch'? what does that mean?
It refers to the facial hair he used to have.
A sad episode but nice to see Chloe snapping back to life and giving Kims boyfriend some grief.
Loved the fact that Jacks means of survival was putting up his hood!
sparkyrob
14-03-2006, 21:32
I'd say Edgar's death was more emotional than Tonys, for the pure reason you forgot (for about half a minute) about him then he came on screen and you were like ... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO EDGAR
Dunno, didn't seem to affect me - as soon as he said he was going to look for Carrie, it was either a case of bullet in head or nerve gas. All that was needed was him to say "I'll be right back.." and that would have sealed it.
Interesting though, I've noticed a pattern in 24 over the seasons with regards to main plots - the writers always seem to want to tie up loose ends and deal justice accordingly (Of course, this pattern excludes the deaths thrown in for shock value: Palmer/Michelle/Edgar/Tony). Example - series 3, Saunders is captured and taken to CTU. Does he get through the legal process? No, he lasts about 30 minutes and then gets blown away. This series - lackey owned by Walt Cummings (can't remember his name - the guy monitoring all the TV screens who looked like a cross between Michael York and David Morse): decides to turn himself over to Jack, but because he was involved in the attack on US soil, he had to die. Cummings - instrumental in getting the nerve gas into terrorist hands: had to die. Lynn's sister - had her brother beaten up and then helped get the keycard into terrorist hands (unknowingly or otherwise): had to die. Lynn: let someone into CTU who then killed lots of people: had to die. The whole show seems to employ a Judge Dredd black/white methodology of justice.
But it ******* rocks. :thumbs:
KennyVader
14-03-2006, 21:50
Holy cow, was Jack crying at the end? Has that happened before?
Now he's gonna be REALLY mad after losing Tony too :nuts:
There seem to be rather a lot of bad-guys-in-waiting. Last series we had all roads leading to Marwan but this series currently we have english bad guy, suspect vice president, dodgy bloke in car at end ... and Robocop is still running around, now with gun :help: ... not to mention the assortment of bad guys that have already been bumped off.
That computer program that Lynn had to disable looked ridiculously compex for an aircon system :lol: ... and doesn't Chloe know that you can install and start RealVNC remotely on any windows box without being at the machine you want to control? She should have just done that and then taken control of the locked station :) That'll teach CTU to use some wacky operating system that looks about as real as the computers in Jurassic Park did :lol:
sparkyrob
14-03-2006, 21:59
Holy cow, was Jack crying at the end? Has that happened before?
and doesn't Chloe know that you can install and start RealVNC remotely on any windows box without being at the machine you want to control? She should have just done that and then taken control of the locked station :)
End of series 1? End of series 3? :)
Also, VNC might let you in, but not if there's been a password set on the VNC server itself and you don't know it :dork:
I agree though, it's odd why Chloe can hack into any business or PC in the world...but not a computer in her own building.
Holy cow, was Jack crying at the end? Has that happened before?
Jack's a regular cry-baby, bawled his eyes out when his wife died the great sissy and at the end of Season 3 he cried like a big pansy in his van. Anyway Jack is no longer where it's at, Robocop is now the official chief bad ass of 24.
1. Serve the Public Trust
2. Protect the Innocent
3. Stab Tony in the chest with a syringe
I'm still hoping that Kim is somehow the mad maniacal genius behind this whole plot that is somehow all about getting back at Daddy Dearest who deserted her! :nuts:
Even if it's all really creepy C.Thomas Howell's doing and she's just gone all Patty Hearst!
Wow, Howard Gordon, Exec-producer of 24 has been doing a podcast type discussion on each episode this season. Just found out about it.
Cool.
http://www.tvweek.com/executiveBriefing.cms
d80s0q
I was kinda hoping that in the syringe was some more Truth Serum so that when Jack cradled Tony in his arms, Tony would stare into his eyes & declare his undying man-love for Jack. :D
Xenomorph
15-03-2006, 00:16
How come everyone suddenly forgot about the Atrophine in the medical bit?
Surely the poor guard who had to die with Lynn could of got there in time to inject himself?
TheCookieMonster
15-03-2006, 01:58
Only thing I really have to add his how great Kiefers performance has been, final scene with Tony was superb :notworthy
Tony?? Hmm ok, I should feel gutted, but why don't I? :shrug: I was more upset over Edgar last week, to be honest I wasn't completely convinced by the fact he was dead at the end of this, not just because of lack of silent clock.
I feel exactly the same, I enjoyed the episode, but Tony's death was just awfully done, mostly because I too wasn't convinced he was actually dead until I read the write-up - Tony was going to kill Robocop, Tony has a gun, Tony puts the gun down and picks up something to inject him with. I thought at first he'd decided to have a go at waking him up to torture him some more, but he wakes up and Tony gets injected with whatever it was.
Couldn't Tony have just held the gun to his head, then have Robocop wake up, turn the gun on him and shoot him - it'd been a lot more obvious what was happening.
Even better of course: earlier on in the episode we kill a character off in a very heroic fashion - the death would be a lot easier to swallow if they'd switched these two around and had Tony be the one that saves everyone - it'd just have been a much more fitting end for a character people are so invested in, and would only have required the smallest of changes to the episode.
It's not so much that I'm annoyed they killed off a favourite character of mine, just that they did so so badly.
basegreen
15-03-2006, 09:09
It all comes down to the attoning of past "bad" behaviour really. Lynn's fault in the first place. His sister's fault, really.
Some other thoughts.
1. I did think Lynn and the security guard gave up too easily. Why not try to create some sort of air pocket from plastic in the room, or find a gas mask, or the atrophine etc.
2. On that note - surely somewhere like CTU would have gas masks available in case of an attack like this?
3. That guy's beard scares me. A lot.
4. The DoD seem to be in on this. I still say it's Heller
It all comes down to the attoning of past "bad" behaviour really. Lynn's fault in the first place. His sister's fault, really.
Some other thoughts.
1. I did think Lynn and the security guard gave up too easily. Why not try to create some sort of air pocket from plastic in the room, or find a gas mask, or the atrophine etc.
2. On that note - surely somewhere like CTU would have gas masks available in case of an attack like this?
3. That guy's beard scares me. A lot.
4. The DoD seem to be in on this. I still say it's Heller
Speculation:
He may be part of it; it seems a popular theory. I don't know. WHat I DO know, is that the longer this goes on the more I have to believe the Chinese are involved somehow.
basegreen
15-03-2006, 09:52
How and why would they be involved though - nothing has indicated this. We know they are a threat to JACK specifically - perhaps he'll be trying to save the day whilst also avoiding the Chinese
cockbongo
15-03-2006, 10:27
I refuse to believe Tony's dead. And i was shocked at how affected I was by it - i mean, Edgar, Lynn, Palmer, Michelle, blah blah yeah yeah, but I just can't get over the ruthlessness of the writers this year. It's like they're trying to remove all links to previous seasons - what are the bets that Chase pops back in a couple to episodes only to save Jack and Kim's life before dying semi-heroically.....anyone else left? Its a damn good season this, but *boy* is it depressing......
And the US administration being run by Sub-Par Nixon and Leland Palmer is just a terrifying thought. Ray Wise is the scariest man in the *world*. But a huge amount of respect goes to the guy playing the Pres this year - fantastic performance.
What about semi-naked woman in hotel? Is she the one that poisoned Palmer with the handshake and was also in the hotel last season?
They have mentioned Chase a few times so maybe he will be back?
Jacks' gonna be ****** now!
Great season
How and why would they be involved though - nothing has indicated this. We know they are a threat to JACK specifically - perhaps he'll be trying to save the day whilst also avoiding the Chinese
Well, the whole day has probably affected Jack the most. He's had to come back from the dead, seen most of the people he knew/trusted/loved/worked with die/forget him etc. Although we have the nerve gas thing, which i agree isn't Jack-centric, the way the day has been set-out has been get at Jack as well.
d80s0q
What about semi-naked woman in hotel? Is she the one that poisoned Palmer with the handshake and was also in the hotel last season?
They have mentioned Chase a few times so maybe he will be back?
Jacks' gonna be ****** now!
Great season
No, she's not.
d80s0q
So just done a quick Bodycount and I think the only people left from Season 1 are:
Jack, Kim, Mike and that Secret Service guy?
omg! is that it!!!
talk about a mass cull.
Christopher Henderson must be the bug bad guy the way he just wont die!
Peter Griffin
15-03-2006, 15:33
Can't believe it. He was only just back and now he's dead! Didn't even go down in a blaze of glory HOW DARE THEY KILL OFF THE BEST CHARACTER IN THE SHOW IN SUCH A WAY!!!!
They better milk it all next week, I want to weep some more.
I thought that woman was Mandy too, but alas, she isn't....
Can't believe it. He was only just back and now he's dead! Didn't even go down in a blaze of glory HOW DARE THEY KILL OFF THE BEST CHARACTER IN THE SHOW IN SUCH A WAY!!!!
They better milk it all next week, I want to weep some more.
Here-here. Tony's too cool.
d80s0q
USDirect
15-03-2006, 17:07
End of series 1? End of series 3? :)
Also, VNC might let you in, but not if there's been a password set on the VNC server itself and you don't know it :dork:
I agree though, it's odd why Chloe can hack into any business or PC in the world...but not a computer in her own building.
The workstation wasnt networked.
I am still a little puzzled by them not just killing Tony in the explosion, he really did go out in a comedy way with robocop shaking off a coma. Tony wanted to shoot him in his sleep rather than waiting for jack to pull his finger nails out? I dont get that either.
Also, pretty near the start, Curtis said he would be there in 20-30 minutes, where was he? the seals (at 94% - how do you get a monitor for that?) held until the last 5 minutes of the show.
Comedy moment, Jack grabbing that guy around the neck then finally letting him go, very funny. Oh and Chloe saying whats with the breathing is that all you do and the guy saying pretty much.
I like Charles 'suggest anything to me and I will do it' Logan but I fear Jack is getting too big for the show with few characters to really like any more.
Peeps,
Can someone link me to the season 5 episode promos again? I tried looking for the link in the previous thread but I couldn't see it. Also now Tony is dead (well maybe) and Kim not wanting to see jack, could it be possible that Jack will die in this season? plus I hope Bill does stay in charge of CTU although with that homeland security mob it does look unlikely, He's jacks only superior I've liked :)
sparkyrob
15-03-2006, 17:51
He's jacks only superior I've liked :)
I liked Mason too, but Bill's a lot more focused.
basegreen
15-03-2006, 18:01
Peeps,
Can someone link me to the season 5 episode promos again? I tried looking for the link in the previous thread but I couldn't see it. Also now Tony is dead (well maybe) and Kim not wanting to see jack, could it be possible that Jack will die in this season? plus I hope Bill does stay in charge of CTU although with that homeland security mob it does look unlikely, He's jacks only superior I've liked :)
type 24 promo into google, 2nd link
yeah I liked Mason too. Next weeks episode looks good. Like someone mentioned above IMO the last two episodes have been very heart breaking. Looking forward to next weeks now.
P.S I've found the link for the promos.
Andr3w
Peter Griffin
15-03-2006, 18:40
Is there anyone left except Jack that people really care about?
Kim is gone forever now so thats her out aswell. How come the most beloved characters go out in a flash (Palmer, Michelle, Tony) whilst those we don't really know get to milk it? (Lynn, Edgar)
Damn you 24 writers, how can you make a show so frustrating! Yet at the same time the best thing I've ever watched.
Now Jack is completely alone. (lets face it Chloe isnt much to him and Audrey is the most useless ctu agent Ive ever seen, she does nothing!) I reckon he's going to break down BIG TIME and just go all out on these terrorists.
Can't for the showdown with Robocop after he's taken away everything Jack had left, thats going to be intense.....
It was a comedy gold moment when Kim told her dad she could not see him again as whenever she did, bad things happened. Oh so true :lol:
Kim is gone forever now so thats her out aswell.
How so?
I don't think we've seen the last of her.
Audrey: "Are you ok?"
Jack: "No"
Talk about your conversation stoppers... :lol:
Another great episode - Lynn's death was frankly, what Edgar & Tony's should've been. Poor little hobbit. :(
Have to admit I found the "nerve gas that can only harm you if you breathe it in" so ludicrous that it's spoilt things somewhat for me. Skin contact is all it really needs to ruin your day. Putting a hoody up and holding your breath... forget it.
Intrigued that Robocop could put up with all that truth serum and still be active... was CTU dude really injecting him with it, or was he in on it all too...?
Intrigued that Robocop could put up with all that truth serum and still be active... was CTU dude really injecting him with it, or was he in on it all too...? I suspect that Robocop knew this could happen, so has taken some antidote or suppresant to stop the effects of it.
Wow :thumbs: Most of what I wanted to say has been covered.
Just another great episode. Had to post something because it's killing me not being able to say anything to my housemate and best mate who both watch it on Sky and are thus weeks behind!
It's all just "OMG :notworthy OMG :notworthy OMG :notworthy " when I talk to them.
Can't wait until next week where we MUST see Jack get even with a few evil terrorists!
And, Robocop either really is Robocop in the series or the other CTU medic had to be in on it as posted previously (even 24 doesn't take that sort of incredulous recovery, surely).
:nuts:
I torture our office receptionist.... (she follows it on Sky) ... It feels like every week i'm walking past her desk and commenting, "OMG! more main characters died last night!" ..... I forsee an incoming A4 ring-binder launched at my head, very soon! :D
they're dropping like flies in this series!
not quite sure why Lynn didn't go for the Gas Mask first though? or just run outside.
Just caught up watched the last three, so i've experienced 3 deaths in one sitting.
Cue the OMG!!!!(s) :eek:
This show is brilliant! My friends and I say this every season but this is definitly the best yet. It keeps you on your toes all the time. I don't think theres been a non-action/slow/plot episode yet.
In regards to the pre show warning, "viewer discretion advised", is that because chloe actually got to show some emotion, scary! :lol:
I hope they go for broke and kill Chloe too, or give her some personality.
basegreen
16-03-2006, 09:19
She has one of the strongest personalities on the programme - I just don't understand why you would say that.
Gillsfan
16-03-2006, 10:29
Agree with everyones comments... fantastic episode, really emotional though. I actually liked Lin.. not too fussed about Tony though, it was obvious robocop was faking.. he should have shot him.
Cant wait for next weeks. 24's the best thing on TV!
Tom Whitaker
16-03-2006, 10:32
I can't believe people remember so much about the previous seasons - do you rewatch them? Thoroughly enjoyed this episode, but I'll have forgotten it all in a few weeks :)
Walter Sobchak
16-03-2006, 10:52
I can't believe people remember so much about the previous seasons - do you rewatch them? Thoroughly enjoyed this episode, but I'll have forgotten it all in a few weeks :)
Im exactly the same! :D
KennyVader
16-03-2006, 15:37
I can't believe people remember so much about the previous seasons - do you rewatch them? Thoroughly enjoyed this episode, but I'll have forgotten it all in a few weeks :)
I know. I see some of the episodes on Sky depending on where I am and they are currently at episode 5 or 6 or so of this series, and I struggle to remember it's the same series sometimes! At the time those episodes aired in the US a few weeks ago, I was thinking how good they were, but now they look quite dull and plodding compared to the last three eps aired in the US!
Thought about rest of the series.....
I can see an A-team style Vigilante group, consisting of Jack, Curtis, Chloe, once homeland security take over CTU
Stu
I suspect that Robocop knew this could happen, so has taken some antidote or suppresant to stop the effects of it.
That would assume that Robocop expected to be caught even though he believed Jack to be dead in the explosion.
Was an okay episode for me until the very end and then became an OMG how could they episode, great stuff.
That would assume that Robocop expected to be caught even though he believed Jack to be dead in the explosion. I am assuming that he planned for the contingency of someone catching him and torturing him, so had taken an antidote in advance.
Tony dead - damm this! Worst 24 ever!
silverpenguin7
17-03-2006, 00:51
I thought they handled the death of Tony in a pretty pants way, should have been a much better ending for a great character!
I still want to know when the Chinese government are going to catch on that Jack isn't dead!
So that's where Desmond went after leaving the hatch. Maybe the schematics are for the Dharma foundation and we're about to witness the biggest ever crossover in modern TV. :eek:
cockbongo
17-03-2006, 01:05
So that's where Desmond went after leaving the hatch. Maybe the schematics are for the Dharma foundation and we're about to witness the biggest ever crossover in modern TV. :eek:
That would ******* rock - and give Lost a much needed kick up the arse. Someone needs to start asking questions on that show - who better than Jack Bauer..."We don't have TIME Danielle - what the HELL is happening on this island? TALk DAMMIT! Or i'll shoot you above the kneecap"...
Vulcan101
17-03-2006, 01:21
Who else thinks that Kim won't get out of LA before the Evil VP's "premptive martial law" declaration hits the streets?
...and when she doesn't I bet the first two things she stumbles across are crazy bunker guy, a kidnapper and his pet cougar.
Or Robocop hijacks Kim in the CTU car park! either way I predict a kidnap.
cockbongo
17-03-2006, 01:34
Or Robocop hijacks Kim in the CTU car park! either way I predict a kidnap.
"I will notify a rape crisis centre."
;)
Pablo_Escobar
17-03-2006, 05:59
Or Robocop hijacks Kim in the CTU car park! either way I predict a kidnap.
Didn't even think about that! I think this is very possible!
Watching the end of this ep again, no beeps at the end although there weren't for the first ep either re Palmer.
I think we should consider the possibility that Tony, in his weakened state, may have picked up the wrong fluid bottle and filled the syringe with a tranquilizer by mistake.
Next week, the doctor arrives - "what are you crying for you silly-billies! he's just asleep!". Soul Patch could live!!! :) Is there a smilie with a Soul Patch?
Watching the end of this ep again, no beeps at the end although there weren't for the first ep either re Palmer.
I think we should consider the possibility that Tony, in his weakened state, may have picked up the wrong fluid bottle and filled the syringe with a tranquilizer by mistake.
Next week, the doctor arrives - "what are you crying for you silly-billies! he's just asleep!". Soul Patch could live!!! :) Is there a smilie with a Soul Patch?
yep tony's not dead hes just resting his eyes
ill put a bet on it that tonys not dead
KennyVader
17-03-2006, 21:36
Maybe he's just pretend-dead like Jack was at the end of S4?
basegreen
17-03-2006, 21:37
Tony is dead.
KennyVader
17-03-2006, 21:52
Tony is dead.
:shrug: so was Bobby Ewing until he had a shower.
On the front page of the official 24 website there is a poll. The question, "Did you feel as bad as jack did about tonys death?"
I guess he's dead. ... ... ... unless its a bluff byt the website :suspect:
Or Robocop hijacks Kim in the CTU car park! either way I predict a kidnap.
Mabye a cougar will find its way into the back seat of the car?
One thing - where is Curtis? I thought he was in the room with Jack and co.
KennyVader
18-03-2006, 01:06
One thing - where is Curtis? I thought he was in the room with Jack and co.
No he was driving back to CTU ... he went on about how it was going to take him half an hour to get back there due to the traffic, and that was going to be too late.
hookbeak
18-03-2006, 07:30
i listened to the podcast with Howard Gordon - if the guy running the show says Soulpatch is dead - then i guess he is dead.
Do you really think jack would break out the tears if tony was just having a kip ?
Probably Jack's a massive sissy, unlike our lord and saviour Robocop.
Vulcan101
18-03-2006, 10:28
You have to figure Jack is going to go on a serious kill-a-thon in the pursuit of Robocop.
Watching Jack burst into tears over tony's still warm corpse whilst he mourns his unrequited man-love you just know the bodycount is going to skyrocket.
not my post
but good read
From: MyVengeance on 24 forums
Now bear with me here. I know there havce been plenty of people whining and complaining about how Tony is dead, it's not fair etc. I'm not here to do this. I'm here to propose that 24 writers are THE most underhanded clever and sly writers ever.
First, I would direct your attention to season 2 when Jack Bauer's heart stopped and he was clinically dead, or deceased. However, due to good planning on the part of those responisble for his temporary death, the proper medical supplies were available to revive him. Now let's look at Tony's situation. He was injected with a chemical that would only have killed Henderson due to the fact that Henderson already had so much in his system, it would have lead to an overdose. Tony however, had none in his system and should have fared better. Second, he was in the CTU Intensive Care Unit when it happened and there is most likely some Epinephrine or some other similar chemcials around that could do for Tony whaty they did for Jack in season 2.
Now, all this posturing is good, but why do I think it's not simply my mind going through denial? k Well first off, as many have complained, Edgar got a silent timer at the end of the episode of his death but Tony did not. Annoying, but isn't it also suspicious? Such a major character as Tony, the only other character still alive from season 2 (that anybody cares about, okay there's pierce and Novick, but they're not important enough...yet). Kim doesn't matter to anyone and will consequently be left out from further discussion. So Tony's non-silent clock is one indication that something else is going on.
Don't read the third point until you're ready to react rationally as opposed to gut emotion. Third, they're going to have to kill off Jack eventually. And if they want 24 to continue they'll have to give us someone to take his place? Chloe is all computer work. Curtis hasn't had enough face time (though see an argument i will make later), and Chase gotten written, rather cheaply I might add.
The Fox network is currently relying very heavily on 24 as a staple of its ratings. It is currently one of the topmost rated dramas on television and to simply end it after a fifth season when its popularity is so high would be unheard of. Kiefer Sutherland has said many times throughout the years of 24 that Jack Bauer nwill dies eventually. With all we've seen this season, have you any reason to belive that this might not be Jack's last day as a CTU agent? I think it's a pretty safe bet.
With this in mind, an heir to the 24 throne must be present. Who better than Tony Almeida? Tony's character has gotten progressively deeper in the past seasons and his story now closely rivals that of Jack. Wife dead, hard times in his job, risking his career for personal life. Tony has been set up to be the next Bauer since season 3 and I'd find it hard to believe the 24 writers would just scrap that.
This leaves Curtis. Curtis's presence this season has been weak. He has been found trailing Jack and on at least one occasion now has been taken out by Jack. Second, Curtis's storyline has no depth, fourth season we saw his girlfriend was a mole, but this season, he's had no stroy at all. For them to suddenly bring in Curtis, isn't likely, but it is a possibility. Perhaps they were waiting for the number of storylines to diminish before brining in a new one. Maybe now that Tony is gone there's enough space in the episodes to start Curtis's more in depth story.
While this is an alternative, I know we'd all prefer to see Tony alive. And I'm hesitant to say it, but I feel that he may in fact still be alive.
The argument that Tony's profilew has deceased written over its picture makes perfect sense since in a way he is in fact dead. But the episode ended when Tony had been dead for only about 3 seconds, if even that much time had passed. He is still very much in the degree where he can be defribilated.
There's the theory...Tony should not be ruled out quite yet.
SithLordSi
19-03-2006, 15:07
Tony is dead. He had nothing left to live for. Let him be at peace with his wife. :cry:
Tony is dead. He had nothing left to live for. :cry:
24 - SEASON 6 to 20
the_host
30-03-2006, 23:58
OMG how many more main characters will they kill :wave: ..... And was supprised that they didnt give Tony a "silent" timer at the end :nono:
Cranberry
23-04-2006, 21:10
Was just on Sky One.
How could they do it? Too much to handle in last few eps. Cracking stuff.
EdgeOfVictory
23-04-2006, 21:15
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
i forsee robocop will suffer
i mourn the death of tony (I think he wont be resuscitated)... but man, what other show has the balls to kill off so many main characters in a season?!
So - you can wonder around in the gas as long as you hold your breath...
How far away are the exit doors exactly? They actually mentioned in the show that there were gas masks in the building - Jack could have gone and got some while he was out wondering around the office.
Also - if this terrible gas can be dissapated in seconds using a standard aircon unit, why would it kill hundreds of thousands of people if it was released in the open? On that note - where do their aircon units vent to? Presumably there have been massive casualties around the CTU buildings because of what Cloe's just done?
Peter Griffin
23-04-2006, 22:36
Who cares about the gas, Tony is dead!!! It's wrong, just wrong.
locutus_uk
24-04-2006, 07:25
Superb episode :notworthy
Edgar then Tony...who's next?
Loved the way that Chloe starting working and got over the shock of her unrequited Edgar love when Jack threatened Cougar Boy :lol:
And no more Hobbit...that was a gruesome death.
Looks like next week is going to be good as Homeland take over and Jack goes after Robocop
FlangeMonkey
24-04-2006, 07:34
Superb episode :notworthy
Edgar then Tony...who's next?
From the look of next week's trailer, it could be Curtis!
Where it hits its mark as an entertaining programme, it just seams to be re-gigging what has gone on before.
Main characters killed - check
CTU being breached - check
Someone brought in to sort out CTU has to then leave/die half way in - check
Someone comes into to take over CTU & ask's if he will have authorities over the current head - check
Villain being captured by CTU, only to escape - check
Im sure we can be adding Kim kidnapped/in danger to that list soon.
The most interesting/different thing is that this looks like its shaping up that it could be that main threat will be from the enemy within the United States.
I just think they are trying to be to big & trying to top what's gone on before. To me bigger does not mean better. I really hope that come next season they take it down a peg or two to a more believable level. To me there is much more suspense when the characters are threatened rather than yet another over the top threat to the US of A.
danjaq2004
24-04-2006, 18:53
Shame to see another main character leaving.
Walrus Man
24-04-2006, 21:38
Well I have to disagree with everyone and say that I thought this episode was total cack - easily the worst of this season so far. :oh-hum:
Being trapped in CTU didn't allow for much to happen, and we didn't get to see enough of the excellent President and his wife.
Jack putting his hood up to defend against the gas was laughable. Lynn dying was just such a copy of George in season 2 and Ryan in season 3, i.e. annoying bloke takes charge of CTU, makes a total balls-up and winds-up Jack and everyone else in the process, making the audience hate them, then come through with a sacrifice to save the day. :nono:
As for the death of Soul Patch - WTF! He would never have allowed Robocop to take him out so easily. I can't believe he's dead, (but it seems he really is), what a pathetic way to go for such an awesome character.
Bad, bad episode.
SIMON ADEBISI
25-04-2006, 05:43
I thought this was a really good ep but i can't believe Tony died so meaninglessly. If he was going to die they should have got him to to what Lynn did and dead to save others.
unrealnils
24-05-2006, 18:28
Damn i cant belive they killed of Tony, i meani should belive it apart from jack everyone is libale to get blown away but damn not tony :D
That would ******* rock - and give Lost a much needed kick up the arse. Someone needs to start asking questions on that show - who better than Jack Bauer..."We don't have TIME Danielle - what the HELL is happening on this island? TALk DAMMIT! Or i'll shoot you above the kneecap"...
LOL that would be freaking cool.
nils, I could tell you were the last person to post in here (and the other umpteen 'bumped' threads) as soon as i saw them on the front page. nils, is your post count not high enough? :p
unrealnils
24-05-2006, 19:18
:oh-hum: i cant belive i didnt watch the eps months back when they aired i missed out on all the post ep thread fun :lol:
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