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Crouching Tiger
19-02-2006, 21:13
I've heard a rumour that there won't be any 6th Round replays to ease fixture congestion ahead of the World Cup but I can't find any evidence of this from the FA (*spit*) website.
http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2002/08/20766.htm
Now I know that the FA (*spit*) website is run by complete idiots and that the FA (*spit*) themselves claim that it is a load of poo, so I'll ask if anybody knows this to be true ?
Aston Villa or Man City
Bolton or West Ham Utd
Birmingham
Charlton
Chelsea
Liverpool
Middlesbrough
Newcastle
Not a rumour, they wont be happening. All a part of finishing the season early for WC preparation. Dont know if this is just the 1/4 or if applie to 1/2 finals.
If this is the case they haven't gone out of their way to advertise it as this is the first I have heard of it. Can see the point in it to be honest unless the FA cup final is being played earlier this year.
and the 6th round is MID WEEK :cry:
stallion
19-02-2006, 22:06
and the 6th round is MID WEEK :cry:
Yep. There is going to be one game each night from Mon 20 to Thu 23 so that they dont have to cancel Premiership games :oh-hum:
morleyian
19-02-2006, 22:14
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup_2005-06
At the special request of England national football team manager Sven-Göran Eriksson, the quarter-finals (i.e. 6th Round Proper) will be held on weeknights (they would normally take place at weekends) and the English clubs still competing in European competition will suffer no replays. This action was made to ensure that the season finishes as early as possible, allowing players a full month's rest before the 2006 World Cup finals....
The semi-finals will also be staged at neutral venues and like the final, will not be replayed in the event of a draw.
I've heard a rumour that there won't be any 6th Round replays to ease fixture congestion ahead of the World Cup but I can't find any evidence of this from the FA (*spit*) website.
http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2002/08/20766.htm
Now I know that the FA (*spit*) website is run by complete idiots and that the FA (*spit*) themselves claim that it is a load of poo, so I'll ask if anybody knows this to be true ?
Aston Villa or Man City
Bolton or West Ham Utd
Birmingham
Charlton
Chelsea
Liverpool
Middlesbrough
Newcastle
Hold on, I haven't paid too much attention to other fa cup games that don't involve liverpool but is this the first time ever where there are only top flight clubs remaining at this stage?
Crouching Tiger
19-02-2006, 22:23
Cheers Moley.
Hold on, I haven't paid too much attention to other fa cup games that don't involve liverpool but is this the first time ever where there are only top flight clubs remaining at this stage?
Well, Chelsea are in there! ;)
Crouching Tiger
19-02-2006, 23:28
The draw will take place later today at 13:30.
Should make it more exciting at this stage TBH - no lower league clubs left so no need to protect their interests. And Liverpool definately need no additional fixtures to cram in! Its the midweek thing which will be bizarre! :nuts:
cheeseypuffs
20-02-2006, 08:00
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA_Cup_2005-06
English clubs still competing in European competition will suffer no replays.
Does that mean only the ties involving Liverpool, Boro, Bolton and Chelski will not be replayed :thinking: Could we see two QFs decided by penalties and the other two going to replays :?:
Yep. There is going to be one game each night from Mon 20 to Thu 23 so that they dont have to cancel Premiership games :oh-hum:
I was under the impression that they would be played on either Tues 21st March or Weds 22nd. Surely if two teams have to play on Monday 20th, they would have to cancel there Saturday game anyway?
Mind you I have usually lost all interest in the FA Cup long before this round, but its still the Worlds Greatest Knock out Compertion" for me at the moment :nuts:
That's a shame, always look foward to chilling out at home watching the FA Cup ties over the weekend. Oh well, will have to go outside now! :nuts:
Full draw (edited for any copyright reason :shrug: ) :
Char Ath v Mid
AVilla or Man City v Bol Wand or W H Utd
Chel v New Utd
Birm City v Liv
Ties to be played on 20-23 March
I think both us & Middlesbrough will be pleased with that draw.
poissony
20-02-2006, 13:05
I love the way the FA have dealt with this!
It turns out that there will be replays for this (according to talksport), no one knows when exactly but is probably the week leading up to Easter.
morleyian
20-02-2006, 13:35
You sure they weren't referring to the replays for non euro sides (as mentioned above)?
cheeseypuffs
20-02-2006, 13:41
But if Bolton beat West Ham, there is a possibility that each of the Quarter Finals could involve a team still playing in Europe!
AdamBrunt
20-02-2006, 13:44
It's also tough luck I suppose if you are one of teams that has to play on the Monday or Thursday ?? Or will you be allowed to postpone your Premiership game currently scheduled for the Saturday "after" ??
What would be so bad about 2 games on Tuesday and 2 games on Wednesday ??
What would be so bad about 2 games on Tuesday and 2 games on Wednesday ??
Not as much TV money?
poissony
20-02-2006, 14:25
You sure they weren't referring to the replays for non euro sides (as mentioned above)?
No mention of European sides, but who knows :shrug:
As for postponing the weekend games for those playing on Monday and Thursday, that gets tricky as a number of these teams are involved in televised games on the weekends before and after the quarter finals.
AdamBrunt
20-02-2006, 14:38
As for postponing the weekend games for those playing on Monday and Thursday, that gets tricky as a number of these teams are involved in televised games on the weekends before and after the quarter finals.
Interesting point ....
Liverpool are live on Sky Sports 1 on the preceding Sunday (19th) v Newcastle AND live on Prem+ the following Saturday (25th) v Everton.
So that should mean Birmingam v Liverpool being played on the Wednesday then.
Hernster
20-02-2006, 15:12
Gutted about the draw. :cry:
Jose to use all 3 subs at half-time again? :lol:
Hernster
20-02-2006, 15:39
Jose to use all 3 subs at half-time again? :lol:
I hope so as there's no way we'll beat them. It's the worst possible draw we could have got. :cry:
Really think the clubs should put there foot down here & just say "NO" to a Monday/Thursday game unless they can play there Sat game on a Friday (if playing Monday or to a Sunday if playing Thursday).
Our website is now showing:
Tue Mar 21 Middlesbrough - date TBA 20:00 Home FA Cup
It sounds to me as if the FA are making the rules up as they go along and were waiting for the outcome of this draw to see when these ties are going to be played and if replays are going to be involved. I guess we will just have to wait and see.
AFAIK, these were always the rules weren't they?
I understood it that way, anyway.
poissony
20-02-2006, 16:46
AFAIK, these were always the rules weren't they?
I understood it that way, anyway.
Which version of the rules are you referring to?
Darth Sidious
20-02-2006, 17:20
it appears FA now stands for Faff About
I think I have the answer..
http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/Round-by-Round/Postings/2006/02/FA_cup_sixth_round_draw.htm
The games will be played on Monday 20, Tuesday 21, Wednesday 22 or Thursday 23 March 2006 with any replays taken place on Wednesday 12 April 2006.
AdamBrunt
20-02-2006, 17:34
I think I have the answer..
http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/Round-by-Round/Postings/2006/02/FA_cup_sixth_round_draw.htm
The games will be played on Monday 20, Tuesday 21, Wednesday 22 or Thursday 23 March 2006 with any replays taken place on Wednesday 12 April 2006.
This round was always going to be played midweek ???
poissony
20-02-2006, 17:37
This round was always going to be played midweek ???
Yes, this was known at the beginning of the season, due to England wanting a months prep for the World Cup.
What is new, as far as I can make out, is that there are now replays.
It sounds to me as if the FA are making the rules up as they go along
FA, rules, organisation, drunken meeting, brewery, surely not!
Gutted about the draw. :cry:
If ever one word summed up an FA Cup draw for me its this one.
D'oh !!!!! :cry:
stallion
24-02-2006, 11:24
Well tha FA have confirmed the times for the Sixth Round here (http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2006/02/Fifth_round_replay_television_coverage_confirmed.htm)
As everyone suspected Liverpool and Chelsea have got the Tuesday and Wednesday ties and the smaller clubs have got the short straw and are playing on Monday and Thursday
Well tha FA have confirmed the times for the Sixth Round here (http://www.thefa.com/TheFACup/TheFACup/NewsAndFeatures/Postings/2006/02/Fifth_round_replay_television_coverage_confirmed.htm)
As everyone suspected Liverpool and Chelsea have got the Tuesday and Wednesday ties and the smaller clubs have got the short straw and are playing on Monday and Thursday
To be honest looking at our (LFC) fixtures, the Wednesday would have been better.
We've got Newcastle away on the 19th and Everton at home on the 25th.
The 22nd would have been better.
We (Charlton) got the Thursday date. From the club website:
Charlton's FA Cup quarter-final against Middlesbrough would be played on Thursday, March 23rd.
That would have meant Alan Curbishley's side playing two games in just three days, with the home Premiership fixture against Newcastle United falling just two days later on Saturday, March 25th.
But following discussions with the Premier League immediately after the FA's announcement, it was agreed that the Newcastle game would be put back 24 hours, to Sunday, March 26th, with a 2pm kick-off.
The cup game against Boro will be screened live on BBC2 (8pm), and if a replay is required that will take place on either Monday, April 11th or Tuesday, April 12th.
Just pleased we did not get the Monday game, however I do feel for those that will have to play on the Monday:
All four Sixth Round matches and the two replays in the Fifth Round will be broadcast live on television.
Manchester City will take on Aston Villa in the first replay on Tuesday 14 March, live on Sky Sports.
BBC will then show West Ham United's match against Bolton Wanderers on Wednesday 15 March. The winners of these ties will meet in the Sixth Round.
Their match will take place on Monday 20 March, live on BBC at 8.05pm.
Sky Sports will show Birmingham City's clash with Liverpool on Tuesday 21 March at 7.45pm.
BBC will then show Chelsea v Newcastle on Wednesday 22 March at 8.05pm*and Charlton v Middlesbrough on Thursday 23 March.
This season's Sixth Round matches are being played midweek following an agreement reached last season with the Premier League and Football League.
This is to enable England to have a four-week preparation window ahead of this summer's World Cup in line with other competing countries.
Sixth Round replays will take place on or around Wednesday 12 April.
They will both have to play a replay on the Tues/Weds, then a Prem game on the Sat, followed by a cup game on the Monday :eek:
Crouching Tiger
24-02-2006, 12:25
Liverpool and Chelsea are both playing on the 19th and 25th so neither could have had the Monday (20th) game.
As Deron said, the ideal would have been the 22nd as that would have allowed 2 days rest before and after the match, Chelsea got that one. So we couldn't play the 20th, didn't get the 22nd and were left with the 21st or 23rd both of which involve 2 games in 3 days.
If we are just looking at the Cup, Birmingham play on the 18th and 26th so any date would have been ok for them. They would prefer the 22nd so that Liverpool have only 2 days rest instead of 4.
So I don't think anybody has done us any favours it actually couldn't have been any worse if you look a little deeper.
stallion
24-02-2006, 13:09
Another problem for the teams playing on Monday will be the fact that the teams will not who is playing who until Wednesday night.
It looks like it will be a bit of a logistical nightmare to get tickets out on time for the match on Monday. I think they should have switched the monday and Thursday ties around
Another problem for the teams playing on Monday will be the fact that the teams will not who is playing who until Wednesday night.
It looks like it will be a bit of a logistical nightmare to get tickets out on time for the match on Monday. I think they should have switched the monday and Thursday ties around
Never thought of that.
To be honest I think the reason that ours is on a Thursday is that its properly the least appealing to a neutral out of all of them, so the BBC is not worried about burying it on BBC2 for the night. In short they were properly arranged by the BBC, Sky & the FA rather than the clubs & FA :nono:
Another reason could be Middlesbrough UEFA cup games as I think (not 100% on this) they will be playing away tie on Thursday 16th March, and a Prem game on the 19th.
Asking them to play a 3(away) games in 4 days might be a bit unfair to them although it would have suited us. :nuts:
stallion
24-02-2006, 14:04
Another reason could be Middlesbrough UEFA cup games as I think (not 100% on this) they will be playing away tie on Thursday 16th March, and a Prem game on the 19th.
Asking them to play a 3(away) games in 4 days might be a bit unfair to them although it would have suited us. :nuts:
Thats why I dont work for the FA then setting up fixtures as I had forgotton about that. :doh: :lol:
Anyway I think the FA shot themselves in the foot by agreeing to schedule these fixtures midweek and then obviously being at the mercy of the broadcasters.
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