View Full Version : [XBOX360] Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII
Anyone for 8 v 8 WWII Dogfights? (http://xbox360.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3147709&did=1)
Looks impressive & never had the pleasure of multiplayer air-combat. :)
looks very nice indeed :thumbs:
One only hopes it acts like a next-gen Crimson Skies. My only concern is the U-Factor (Ubisoft).
Footage of the Battle of Britain scenario is simply breathtaking. The detail of the city is very impressive.
Yeah I should be there too... although March is looking awfully expensive!!
Out for Justice
10-02-2006, 13:55
Count me in
This is shaping up very nicely.....Articles on the campaign mode and the multplayer experience .... :thumbs:
http://previews.teamxbox.com/xbox-360/1292/Blazing-Angels-Squadrons-of-WWII/p1/
http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/694/694556p1.html
Dean[SAS]
09-03-2006, 07:04
Looks good - but another WWII game?!
The latest gameshots of this look gorgeous, hopefully it all moves fast & smoothly too.
Hmm...just watched the IGN video preview and I'm a little underwhelmed. Given everything else that's due soon, this needs to be pretty special to convince me.
Just saw the preview video and it reminds me a lot of Combat Flight Simulator (which is how many years old??). I think this could be a bargain bin purhcase at a later date.
Now if they'd made it a game like Wings (I think it was on the Amiga) then I'd have been first in the queue with my dosh!!
internetuser
09-03-2006, 08:42
Looks nice, but looks aint everything. . .
Multiplayer preview sounds very very good.... http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/695/695530p1.html This is worrying mind:
Throughout our online battles, the connection remained steady. It was a near-final build of the game and there were a few minor hiccups, but Ubisoft expects to have these minor issues ironed out before the game releases in the last week of March.
Oooooooh! ... I so wanna play the Kamikaze Mode! ... I hope it ships with a Rising Sun Bandana for that! .....Banzaiiiii!! :D
Kamikaze mode = sounds interesting but expect tons and tons of racial hatred. Wonder if it'll get an Asian release.
Is there a cockpit view point?
I hate the chase camera sort of perspective and would want a proper cockpit view
/e runs to read the reviews
This will be the "Crimson Skies" of the 360 on Live......not a bad thing :thumbs: ..and as for the Kamikaze mode ....cue loads of middle-aged men....doing aeroplane impressions in their living room whilst their missus fills in the divorce forms .... :lol: :suspect:
I think this should be pretty good. It looks pretty nice, not drop dead gorgeous (like you) but pretty nice. Should be :luv: on Live.
A cockpit view would be pretty neat, but I guess I could live without it.
The latest trailer definitely shows a cockpit view. Also shows a gunner-view from inside a bomber which is cool. :D
there appears to be a demo of this on marketplace, should have it in day or two on my 512 connection
Good spot! ... D/loading now, been eager to have a shot of this. :D
Good spot! ... D/loading now, been eager to have a shot of this. :D
Me 2!
Great spot though cheers! :thumbs:
glad to be of service :lol:
it does look good if a littlr lightweight. i loved crimson skies and this'll be a must buy i think. live should be a lot of fun hopefully.
mrwriter
22-03-2006, 20:56
Damn it. Gets a really good review on Teamxbox. Was hoping it would turn out to be ***** so I didn't have to consider it :lol:
Will still only rent it I reckon, but I'm struggling to keep up with everything I want to play at the moment! Only half way through Ghost Recon and Burnout, barely scratched the surface of Fight Night, Oblivion is coming tomorrow and Tomb Raider is out next week I think? Argh.
Me 2!
Great spot though cheers! :thumbs:
How the hell did you download this so quick rich....its taking bloody ages at my end (ooooer).... :shrug:
Downloading well fast here, I'm surprised.... like a fox.
mrwriter
22-03-2006, 21:34
I did the download tester thing Major Nelson was waffling on about and from one server I got 850k, from the other I got 80k :shrug:
I guess one works better than the other (for some people at least).
Bugger me, graphics tear-a-tastic so far.
Bugger me, graphics tear-a-tastic so far.
Matt...its Ubi ..... :lol: ......
Mine`s still bloody downloading... :suspect:
D/loaded superfast for me .... ummm, it looks fine, bad tearing when attempting to do loop-the-loops, but otherwise ok .... Nice draw distance, good scenery, but combat seems quite weak, i've witnessed zero AI from the bad guys, although my wingmen seem to be competent .... Got bored taking out waves of bombers over London .... anything else happen?
Overall, it's ok, but expected better. Online play is where it really matters. Not on my "to-buy" list at the moment, just too many current games & Oblivion & Tomb Raider on the horizon.
Matt...its Ubi ..... :lol: ......
Mine`s still bloody downloading... :suspect:
Lol I'm not making it up just because it's Ubi. :)
This demo is a right mess. I'm assuming this is just the demo though and the full game will make these improvements (hoping?).
The tearing is hilariously bad. Draw distance is nice but suddenly all the textures pop in on the buildings - urgh. The dialogue is dire "Go get 'em Yank!" but it's nicely presented on screen.... in Comic Sans font :lol:
Combat just seems to be missing something. Planes don't really feel that responsive either. I suppose the real thing like Tony says will be the online play - Crimson Skies was pretty dull in single player but came to life in multi.
When you shoot up the enemy it's awesome though (with vibrations turned off as with it on it's like I have Parkinsons), smoke and flames bellow out - awesome to the max. Not sure I like the overt identification of all the planes, a subtler way of flagging them could of been used I think. I love the way you can hear the German's as well :lol: not sure why you can though :suspect:
Not a definite buy but worth a rental to see what MP is like.
Edit: Sound a bit harsh but really the only probs are the tearing and the Xbox 1 graphics. Everythign else is down to preference really. :)
London looks good with all the smoke coming out of the buildings, and big splashes in the river from bombs and that too.
internetuser
22-03-2006, 22:45
brings back memorys of Amiga games for some reasons. just the cheesyness of the whole thing
mklion123
22-03-2006, 22:51
just played and gotta agree with matt on a lot of that, I'm a really big fan of Secret Weapons Over Normandy on xbox1, and this seem's alot like that so I think i'm gonna be hooked.
It seems more arcadie than flight sim so graphics aren't everything, but the tearing issues should be addressed.
mrwriter
23-03-2006, 06:15
I assume this tearing thing is worse on a non-HDTV? Cos I didn't notice anything (not that I was looking, but the way it's described makes it sound horrendous and unmissable!) - or maybe it's worse in the later stages of the demo (I only did the first bit).
Thought it looked really good myself (again, maybe it's better in HD? :shrug: ) but wasn't overly gripped by the first mission... Possibly cos I was annoyed by the whole yank pilots saving us in the Battle of Britain insult :lol:
Sticking with my idea of renting this still.
no, the tearing is there in HD, trust me. It only appears when you turn/loop your plane around really, which is most the time.
mrwriter
23-03-2006, 06:38
Well, so long as I don't notice it I don't much care :)
it's pretty bad on tight turns and loops, not to keen on the silly button bashing repair thing either.
hmm might be a rental after all, live should still be good.
I should of mentioned I'm playing on Standard Def.
I didn't really think any of it was that bad (aside from the tearing) just not really that great. I do agree that the big decider is the multiplayer, although I'm not wholly convinced by the flying and combat - seems a bit basic. That said I have fond fond fond memorie of Crimson Skies on Xbox Live so that's going to be the measuring stick for this one (perhaps it shouldn't?).
From the way the demo stands, if the game was £25 I'd snap it up in a second. With an online tag of £40 it'll definitely be trialled beforehand.
Definitely decided to avoid it. Combat really isn't that great & no better than any other last-gen flight shoot-'em-up ... Non-laggy online play i'm sure will be fun but short-term. Alas, another demo has scared me away from a game (Full-Auto, Outfit & Quake 4).... Fingers crossed, that tomorrow's BF2 demo wont have the same effect.
oooo..is BF2 demo out tomorrow :D
Ummmmmm ....*hides tank* ... maybe. :p
hookbeak
23-03-2006, 19:42
what a pile of **** this is.
This was on my to buy list till i wasted an entire hour failing to drop a bog roll on a church steeple. Which annoyed me so much i deleted the demo and will never play it again. load of ****.
mrwriter
23-03-2006, 20:23
Fair enough :lol:
Why the **** did you spend an hour on that though??? Isn't that part incredibly easy? :p
what a pile of **** this is.
This was on my to buy list till i wasted an entire hour failing to drop a bog roll on a church steeple. Which annoyed me so much i deleted the demo and will never play it again. load of ****.
Shame ..you missed the awesome dogfights over london.... :notworthy
hookbeak
23-03-2006, 20:41
Fair enough :lol:
Why the **** did you spend an hour on that though??? Isn't that part incredibly easy? :p
i spent an hour on it because no matter what i did with that sodding circle thing and the church steeple *nothing* happened.
i'm still annoyed with it !
It wasn't especially easy till I worked out what I was doing wrong.
it gets really good after the church as well.
Glad I'm not the only one stuck on that bloody church.
I raced through all the training missions up to that point.
First pass - direct hit on church.
Every single subsequent pass, whatever I did, nothing happened. Eventually got fed up, flew into the steeple and deleted the demo.
Shame, because I was liking it up until that point. :mad:
mklion123
23-03-2006, 22:38
I think its UBI and there dodgy trigger points, noticed a few in GRAW.
It seemed if your to high above a point it does'nt always register, my landlord was stuck flying over the airfield and it would'nt continue until he flew low enough to trigger the next part. (or thats how it seemed anyway?)
I had the same prob with the airfield.
mklion - I'd be careful mentioning Ubi, before you know ti you'll be labelled an Ubi-Hater 4 eva!1
mklion123
23-03-2006, 22:47
it's a shame they can't put these demos up early on in there programming. if only so people can give there views on what needs changing.
seems a shame, the only say you've got on this game is wether your gonna buy it or not.
xbox live seems the ideal place for d/loading and beta testing a game,then communicating over live straight back to programmers.
I know they have people testing but surely the more people testing it the better the chances of a bug free game?
I think you always have to assume with demos that the final product will be better, sometimes vastly more so. By the time that was released by MS and that, and maybe less textures or somethign to make it a smaller download, it might not be that representative of the final product.
That said, it still makes or breaks the product for many people.
mklion123
23-03-2006, 22:55
I had the same prob with the airfield.
mklion - I'd be careful mentioning Ubi, before you know ti you'll be labelled an Ubi-Hater 4 eva!1
hey I own all their 360 games and will be buying the next 2, but there are trigger problems in graw and on the kong demo, dont know about the actual game because i've not been bored enough with my other games to put myself through the torture that is 1000 gamer points in kong, that should be worthy of a special achievment on its own. :nuts:
perhaps the game should have been worth 900 points but because you finished it you get another 100 points :shrug:
I thought the demo pretty good. At least in the sense that you got a good go as it were. Certainly compared to something like the Burnout one. The training missions seemed pretty easy tbh - obviously a natural fly boy :). I got a bit bored by the Dunkirk mission by the end although I ended up failing it. Presumably not quick enough shooting down the bombers so will have another go just to see how far you can go.
I personally have hardly ever bought a demo mag but have d/l'd most of the 360 ones - just cos I can. From my impression of comments I've read on usenet any number have so far been put off various 360 games from the demo. I think distributors should make sure a demo is as good as possible if they want to encourage a sale. It's like advertising a film even a pants one will have a good trailer to try and tempt you to see it.
CrowHitsJet
23-03-2006, 23:30
I enjoyed it. The reflections in the Thames were pretty.
I found it way too linear for my liking, though. Dogfight - lull - dogfight - lull, and if you try to do your own thing and fly to the next hill, like if you want to take a wide approach, it automatically turns your around and forces you back. There's no freedom to it.
It'd be better if you could select your own campaigns. I really enjoyed the bombing but didn't care for the dogfights. So I'd love to fly and bomb and fly and bomb. I'm sure there'll be plenty of it in the full game, but judging by the demo not until you've completed every other task like Rescue Tom and then Protect Dick and finally Escort Harry.
I guess it wasn't realistic enough for my liking.
anephric
24-03-2006, 07:38
I guess it wasn't v-synced well enough for my liking.
Hey, I know it's only a demo, but the prospect of another Ubi game that they can't get to run well enough without turning off v-sync, well, sucks.
Otherwise, this was fairly trite. Annoying speech, annoying text, annoying mechanics. The NPCs don't stop jocking tawkin'. Other than the repetitive buildings of London stretching into the distance in the third level, this pretty much looked like an Xbox game too.
This has been confirmed as region free by VideoGamesPlus :)
This has been confirmed as region free by VideoGamesPlus :)
Does this mean I can purchase from playasia (or similar) for £25?
The game looks great and I really enjoyed it last night, no better feeling than mowing down some german bombers!
hey I own all their 360 games and will be buying the next 2, but there are trigger problems in graw and on the kong demo, dont know about the actual game because i've not been bored enough with my other games to put myself through the torture that is 1000 gamer points in kong, that should be worthy of a special achievment on its own. :nuts:
perhaps the game should have been worth 900 points but because you finished it you get another 100 points :shrug:
I was only messing mate ;)
thelocalman
24-03-2006, 10:30
Where have you lot ordered this and got it so early?
There's a demo on Xbox Marketplace.
thelocalman
24-03-2006, 10:32
and is it region free? its in stock in asia!
Matt, will a copy from Playasia be ok on a UK 360, seeing as it's region free I can't see an issue??
Yeah, it says English language as well so shoudl be fine. The manual might be in Jap?
I'm getting my Ghost Recon from them any day so will soon be able to tell you :)
IGN Review (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/697/697947p1.html) scores a poorly 6.8 saying that single-player gets monotonous quickly, but they do mention that the LIVE multiplayer gaming is fun.
Ordered from Play Asia, any ideas of delivery times chaps, I went for el cheapo air mail, site stated 5-10 days, is that accurate?
Closer to 10 than 5 in my experience.
Closer to 10 than 5 in my experience.
Excellent, thanks, well worth the £15 saved and it isn't our for a week over here anyways :)
thelocalman
24-03-2006, 14:49
how exactly do I bog roll the church please?
gazhowell
24-03-2006, 15:00
how exactly do I bog roll the church please?
Simple mate - just fly up to it and as soon as your red circle/target is on the church then click in the right thumbstick to drop your flyers.
I think people get confused by trying to do it by sight, ie where it looks like the flyers are dropping out the back. Just ignore them and concentrate on the targetting circle. It looks odd, but it's just because you drop them while moving, and they fall forwards so it is actually more realistic.
mrwriter
24-03-2006, 15:19
Just went back and did the church thing again cos I couldn't work out what it was that people were finding so tricky about it...
Still can't :lol:
There's a huge great big **** off bomb sight circle thing on the floor - when it's over the church click the right stick like the co-pilot says and that's it :shrug: There's no secret, skill or trickiness to it?
Sometimes it doesn't work though. I found that you have to be descending on it (the reticle seems to assume this) for it to work, otherwise push it a bit later then it works fine.
mrwriter
24-03-2006, 15:55
I only attempted it four times in total to complete it twice... It's certainly easier if you're dive-bombing it (gently - no need for kamikaze tactics) but it works if you're level too...
Maybe some people are trying it from 18000 feet or something? ;)
Think the demo is a little disappointing on reflection though. Oh well, not like there's not millions of other games to play at the moment! And Oblivion is a real time muncher...
Oh, specifically looked for this horrific tearing people have mentioned and still couldn't spot it though.
Pettifogging, the lot of you :p
I'm not stupid. I'm using the circle and flying at a low altitude.
If you can't spot the tearing then you're doing something seriously wrong. Sure you're playing the right game?
anephric
24-03-2006, 16:49
I noticed the tearing within about 5 seconds, but then I am a Tearing Hata.
mrwriter
24-03-2006, 17:12
If you can't spot the tearing then you're doing something seriously wrong. Sure you're playing the right game?
I can't see it. At all. And yes, definitely the right game :eek: :razz: How can I be doing something wrong?
Maybe my TV handles it well or something? Anyone else with a Samsung LCD testify one way or the other? (note: I don't even know whether technically one TV can be better than another when it comes to 'tearing' - I could see it on PDZ though).
It's either that or you're all sat 6" from the screen or viewing it under a microscope? Or maybe I have glaucoma...
And ******* mate, I dunno what to tell you - it is that simple :shrug:
Put circle over target. Release bomb. Repeat. Move on.
I can't see it. At all. And yes, definitely the right game :eek: :razz: How can I be doing something wrong?
I've no clue, it's pretty darn prominant for me though.
******* - if it's any reassurance I struggled on it for a while, until suddenly I did it by doing the exact same thing. It must be very specific.
anephric
24-03-2006, 19:50
You just need to lead it a bit for the bombing.
I don't think your screen is going to make any diff when it comes to tearing - CRTs might hide a few minor sins, but that's about it. The 360 should really have triple-buffering for v-sync: I'm surprised that it doesn't, considering that's the PC standard (well, it was when I looked last).
What am I looking for to see this tearing? I don't know what it is :shrug: :)
I wouldn't worry about it if you aren't noticing it, you lucky *******.
gazhowell
24-03-2006, 21:13
I can see it, but it had zero effect on the game IMO.
anephric
24-03-2006, 23:13
You mean apart from DESTROYING THE VISUAL FIDELITY.
Not that it matters because it's fairly crap anyway. Crimson Skies does this this sort of thing miles better, and it's an old Xbox title.
gazhowell
24-03-2006, 23:31
I don't know why, but it just didn't seem to bother me at all. I only saw it when trying loop the loops and that was hardly ever.
I was more interested in shooting down the planes than a few imperfections.
Me too, the tearing isn't that bad to me, but I guess if it bothers you, then you struggle to see past it.
anephric
25-03-2006, 12:33
I struggle to see past why a supposedly next-gen console can't get past something as basic as tearing. I got rid of Xbox titles that did, let alone 360 ones...
Can't you just smear your telly with vaseline or something?
anephric
25-03-2006, 15:27
It's already like that.
I cant stop playing the demo, it's great nailing the nazi bombers! Ordered from play asia hoping to get this in a weeks time.
mr starface
26-03-2006, 13:21
Liked this to start off with but banging my head against the wall cos cant complete the bit of the training where you drop leaflets on the church? I fly over it press the release button and it never seems to hit the spot, what does the circle indicate? I think I'm just being very thick.
gazhowell
26-03-2006, 13:23
The circle indicates where to drop the leaflets. Hit drop when the circle is directly over the church.
internetuser
26-03-2006, 18:38
whats the cheapest place for this ?
Not sure to buy this friday or get it cheap 2nd hand in a few weeks...
anephric
26-03-2006, 18:44
It hasn't got the greatest reviews so I'd wait if I were you...
hookbeak
26-03-2006, 19:48
IMPORTANT IF YOU CAN'T DO THE CHURCH BIT
if like me, this section ****** you off no end you are doing it wrong - like i did.
What you have to do is hold the "target" button (left trigger) and when you fly over it, the view moves directly above and makes lining it up easy. the targetting circle has sections that disappear, when they have all gone click the thumbstick and bingo.
It's dead easy once you figure out you have to hold the trigger, it only took me three hours to figure it out. and one controller, and possibly my nervous system.
whats the cheapest place for this ?
Not sure to buy this friday or get it cheap 2nd hand in a few weeks...
Play-asia.com have a region free copy for £24 delivered, or Gamplay will do it for £39.99, delivered on release day, Tesco is £39.97 release day also in store.
internetuser
30-03-2006, 16:48
Anybody got this then ?Whats live like ?
Anybody got this then ?Whats live like ?
Waiting on my Play Asia copy :( come on postie!!!
mklion123
31-03-2006, 09:50
got my copy from play asia, and theres a good chance I'll be sending the disc to ubi in little pieces because I cant get off the church bit of training.
to quote the manual BOMBING INTERFACE: the reticle on the ground marks the exact location where the bombs will fall !!!!!! note the word "exact"
now I must have been given american bombs cause their not falling exactly on their targets, come to think of it their not fall on their bloody targets at all!!!
I cant believe I got through that part almost first time on the demo.
given up for now, got better games to waste my time with, rather than flying over bloody churches.
Thought maybe, just maybe they might have sorted the triggers out on this game? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Eurogamer review (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=63662) only scores 5/10 and for those frustrated by the Church training exercise, apparently there are numerous single-player levels that are incredibly frustrating. Multiplayer still sounds like it could be fun, but i'm definitely avoiding it, maybe picking it up from a future bargain-bin for less than a tenner.
mklion123
31-03-2006, 10:51
just tried to submit a question to ubi about the game and suprise suprise even their support dosent work properly are they bloody french or something?
mklion123
31-03-2006, 11:10
well that explains a lot.
chuck norris
31-03-2006, 12:38
Anybody got this then ?Whats live like ?
iv'e got it and the online play is fun but also bloody annoying at the same time!!
Played last night with some yanks and you could tell that they have had it for a while as i couldnt shoot them down!!
After a few games got used to it and yeah i like it and its makes killing people even sweeter when a yank opens there mouth :thumbs:
Overall single not that impressive but if your like me, and like to play online and have fun then yeah its worth the purchase.
If any of you boys get it and want some dogfights then add me to your freinds list and i'll join ya.
Gamertag - chucky uk :thumbs:
Now now ;)
Admit it you love them Matt, they test everything right down to the last bug (after they have sold 1m copies :))
Received mine from Play Asia (deffo using them again), I think it's a great laugh and I may be the only one who loves the graphics in the dog fights.
Online is a riot also.
internetuser
01-04-2006, 11:46
Tempted for the online aspect used to love the old dog fight game on wireplay on my early 56l and isdn connections
is it hard on live or do we get owned from the yanks as per usual
Any-one else have this? I am stuck on the pearl harbor revenge mission, bombing the Jap ships seems very very difficult, you seem to have to get so close at such pace you cant pull away in time.
mklion123
02-04-2006, 12:37
i found going towards the ship fast and quite low then pulling back on the right thumbstick to slow the plane down and double tapping the stick to drop both bombs worked best.
i dont think the veiw you have when bombing is the best, when your travelling fast you cant see the bombing target underneath your plane, thats why i like to slow the plane down at the last second so i can see the target, i'm never confident that one bombs gonna do the trick so i always drop two.
i now pretend all the enemy are UBI staff :n0rty: makes the game much more enjoyable. just glad i only payed £25 for it :thumbs:
hmmm not sure we are talking about the same thing. There is no target for these bombs, there is a graph like target symbol in fromt of you with an arrow on each axis. They get closer together and then turn green, once they are as close as can go the ship blows up, but to achieve this you are flying at pace directly at the centre of the ship, pulling up is really tricky and you usually have 2-3 bogeys on your tail.
I think I'm doing something wrong??
mklion123
02-04-2006, 16:45
your talking about the torpedos.
fast and low, you can still send them from a safe distance away so as to leave enough space to pull up.
also use the down button on d pad (blue shield/taunt) so your wingman takes some of the bogeys off your tail
Woo hoo, sorted that level before I wen't to bed - thanks for the advice.
I enjoyed this tonight, but bloody hell, the co-op missions online are so hard! not had a chance to play the single player, but will have a go at it tomorrow. Looks pretty promising to me, just a shame i suck at it. :)
jaminblack
09-04-2006, 20:51
anyone else finding it incredible hard to complete
the single player "ribelui?" (destroy the airfield and protect the bombers).
my wingmen are useless. and I cant order them to protect
the bombers while I single-handedly destroy the airfield.
mklion123
09-04-2006, 21:21
yes that was a hard mission, I found it best toconcentrate on the AA batterys around the air field, get your wing men to attack with you, dont bother protecting them. I just blew the hell out of everything on the ground and did'nt really need to protect the bombers until near the end.
wait till the fjord level,thats were I'm stuck and I dont see myself getting off that level anytime this year!
I finally played the demo over the weekend and, as mentioned before, the tearing was pretty bad. Did they manage to sort this out in the final version?
If so, I may pick it up.
theambient
03-09-2007, 09:37
Anyone played the demo for the second one? It looks about 100% better visually than the first. Seems like it might get dull pretty fast though.
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