View Full Version : Olympus E-1 Digital SLR - £98.70 (Apple Education Store)
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 06:50
Apple Store UK (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump2.php?url=http://tracker.tradedoubler.com/pan/TrackerServlet?p=2554&a=60823&g=32244) have the Olympus E-1 SLR which normally retails for £700ish listed as £98 if you go through their Education Store.
You or your dependents need to be in some form of education to qualify.
It seems a lot like a mis-price as it is still listed at £600+ on their main site, but it is worth a go just in case it is some sort of mega promo for schools.
What does this bit mean?
System requirements
Requirements:
G3 or higher
Mac OS X 10.1.3 or later recommended (or Mac OS 9.1 and later)
Original USB (1.1 or 2) or Firewire port
Is the software no good for a PC? Not that I will probably ever use the software!
z
Wow! Have to give this a try at least!
Thanks Art...or is it George? :thumbs:
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 07:15
What does this bit mean?
System requirements
Requirements:
G3 or higher
Mac OS X 10.1.3 or later recommended (or Mac OS 9.1 and later)
Original USB (1.1 or 2) or Firewire port
Is the software no good for a PC? Not that I will probably ever use the software!
z
They only list the Mac specs on the Nikon 5200, too. I wouldn't worry about it if I were you.
Has anyone got a confirmation email yet?
My Fiancee is a mature student, on a two year course, does that count?
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 07:38
My Fiancee is a mature student, on a two year course, does that count?
Not sure. There is a seperate site for Higher Education which can only be accessed from within a HE institution. Whether HE students also qualify for the standard 'Education' store isn't clear.
It does say in the T&C that you must be
"a student with a valid student card or a teacher, lecturer, tutor or other supervisor of students at a UK education establishment"
Which implies that HE is OK.
Um.....where's the education store?
Best. Importer. Exporter. Ever
Cheers Art
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 07:46
Um.....where's the education store?
There is a link for "Education Discounts" in the right hand column, about 4 items from the bottom of the page.
Ah well, suck it and see eh? Can't hurt. I've always wanted a digital SLR and the review on Steve's Digicams looks good.
There is a link for "Education Discounts" in the right hand column, about 4 items from the bottom of the page.
Thanks!
Thanks OP, worth a pop. In the market for a DSLR anyway so lets hope we're lucky.
Just recieved my confirmation email!
thanks Art Vanderlay - top spot :thumbs:
Anyone experienced any previous Apple misprices ? Maybe it should be £598.70 or £498.70 ?
Not had one of these for a while, so I'm in for the ride ...
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 08:01
The T&Cs suggest that if it is a mis-price then they will not honour it.
2.6 Whilst we will make every effort to supply you with the Products listed on the Order Confirmation, there may be occasions where we are unable to supply these Products because, for example, (i) such Products are no longer being manufactured or available or (ii) we are unable to source relevant components or (iii) if there was a pricing error on the Apple Store Web Site.
As you say, worth a try but nothing lost if it doesn't come off.
Thanks Art, ordered 1 for the misses.
She says she's a student (well she doesn't go to work every wednesday and claims to go to uni :suspect: )
I think my crossed fingers are getting cramp!
Just checked on the BT staff discount site for Apple (which gives the same discount as the Education site) and it's showing as £574.58 on there so I'd imagine someone pressed a couple of wrong buttons when pricing up the education site.
Worth a try though :)
Ordered one ( ultimately for the kid ) but chances are very very slim. Still, nothing ventured ....
Thanks OP.
It says on the order acknowldgement basically that they can back out up until you receive the order conformation.
I have just received mine!
Could be lucky
Thanks OP
pauljamestracey
29-12-2005, 08:30
Just recieved my confirmation email!
Was it this one:
""Dear XXXXXX
Thank you for your order dated 29-DEC-2005, which Apple has received at the Apple Store.
We will now process your payment according to the payment method you have chosen to use. Details of how we process the payment, as well as all the other terms and conditions which apply to your order, are set out in the Apple Store terms and conditions of sale. You can refer to these again, if you wish to do so, at http://store.apple.com/Catalog/uk/Images/edu_ind_salespolicies.html
Please note that this Order Acknowledgement is an order status update for information purposes only. In the event of our acceptance of your payment and order, we will issue you a subsequent Order Confirmation at the following e-mail address: paul@XXXXXXX.XXX
Please be advised that until you have received your order confirmation, Apple reserves the right to decline your order and refund any payment we may have received from you. In the event that we decline your order, we will strive to contact you by e-mail or telephone or mail.""
Which I received about 45mins ago cause that ain't a confirmation it's just an acknowledgement of your order until you get the next one don't get too excited :?:
Thanks OP nothing ventured nothing gained :clap:
rsykes2000
29-12-2005, 08:34
Cheers Art, ordered one (as I work at a University). Not expecting it to come off, but will be very nice if it does.
the highlander
29-12-2005, 08:34
thanks to OP :thumbs: i placed my order about 40 Min's ago .
i got a acknowledgement mail . now i have just received my confirmation mail :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs: http://tinypic.com/jal4x1.jpg
No, got one after that!
Thats titled conformation ****** order.
Order confirmation here. Once I've got this, how can they cancel?
I'm getting all excited. DOWN you damn butterflies!
rsykes2000
29-12-2005, 08:44
Order confirmation here. Once I've got this, how can they cancel?
They can easily cancel and hope that people don't use the small claims court. Most wouldn't be bothered and would just whine about it on forums.
hey - where's Coolio when you need her ?? :wave:
hey - where's Coolio when you need her ?? :wave:
:lol:
She won't be happy if she misses this one
Also got the order email too. Does it come with a memory card or should I just shaddap cos this is a potentially unbelievable bargain and I should be grateful that I may be getting a camera..etc!?
z
Cool, Gone for it, be rude not to. Here's hoping!
Just got confirmation.
Getting more hopeful, but I still feel it could be cancelled.
pauljamestracey
29-12-2005, 09:02
Just got the order confirmation email, just waiting for the order shipped email now ;)
This is over £1000 at dabs (http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=3FRG&refererid=WQ&GCID=C16358x004-CamerasCam&KEYWORD=Olympus+E-1+Digital+SLR+Kit+inc+14-55mm+Lens) :eek:
green_cat
29-12-2005, 09:04
Yay - another confirmed order. Took about 40 mins. Looking forward to this as I already have the E20 and this looks like it addresses a few of the E20's problems.
lol @ £1000, the chances of us getting this is somewhat zilch! Here's hoping... its bound to have triggered an internal stock alert by now with all the leechers.
z
Im in, fingers crossed :)
Thx op.
pauljamestracey
29-12-2005, 09:09
It does say in the confermation email:
Total: 84.00
Shipping Cost: 0.00
Discount (Incl. in Total): 425.79
VAT @ 17.50% : 14.70
Order Total: 98.70
Currency: GBP
Payment Method: Credit Card Visa/MCard
So maybe Dabs are over priced :suspect:
PLEASE don't post it on any other forums just yet. Let's see if it comes off for us DVDF'ers first.
(And thanks to OP)
Thanks OP, have gone for this as I was looking for a new camera anyway. Fancied a Canon, but at this price who could be fussy? :)
D
Thucydides
29-12-2005, 09:13
Given it a go - great if it came off!
green_cat
29-12-2005, 09:14
This is over £1000 at dabs (http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?quicklinx=3FRG&refererid=WQ&GCID=C16358x004-CamerasCam&KEYWORD=Olympus+E-1+Digital+SLR+Kit+inc+14-55mm+Lens) :eek:
Body only is £799 on Amazon.
GonzarliS
29-12-2005, 09:15
Given this a go! Being a student pays dividends! Sometimes... Thanks to the OP
filthypig
29-12-2005, 09:16
Had a go at this - ordered as my little bro is a student.
He's sorting it all for me now :)
Just got the order confirmation email, just waiting for the order shipped email now ;)
Don't hold your breath. Took 2 days for my despatch email when I ordered a Nano from the Apple Ed Store before Christmas.
chuteless
29-12-2005, 09:21
Thanks OP....just got my mum to order this for me as she's a TA.
Thanks, had a go.
Fingers Crossed.
cheers to op. gone for one of these to replace my kodak bargain
DJWillis
29-12-2005, 09:32
Worth a stab. Cheap upgrade from my E20 :).
So pleased my GF is doing a few extra courses at college.
Don't really expect anything to come off (other then the usual bitching here when Apple say no ;)) but it's worth a shot.
Confirmation just received. :clap:
Confirmation for me too! Niiiiiiiice!
Thanks OP!
Given it a try
nothing ventured :D
Also received confirmation email, surely they now have to deliver since the first email says:
'Please note that this Order Acknowledgement is an order status update for information purposes only. In the event of our acceptance of your payment and order, we will issue you a subsequent Order Confirmation at the following e-mail address:
Please be advised that until you have received your order confirmation, Apple reserves the right to decline your order and refund any payment we may have received from you. In the event that we decline your order, we will strive to contact you by e-mail or telephone or mail.'
And since the confirmation email shows
Total: 84.00
Shipping Cost: 0.00
Discount (Incl. in Total): 425.79
VAT @ 17.50% : 14.70
Order Total: 98.70
The discount is shown, they have confirmed it and taken payment, so looks like they will need to deliver.
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NOW SHOWING AS 599 UK POUNDS! :razz:
pls ignore im a plonker and did not understand the education store bit!
sorry
We will just have to wait and see.
Ordered about 10 Mins ago if this comes of I will love the forums even more.
Cheers to the original poster.
Put in my girlfriend's details for shipping but me as the billing - should be ok I hope? She's at Imperial. Bargain if it comes off!!
Thanks just ordered
Fingers crossed.
md
NOW SHOWING AS 599 UK POUNDS! :razz:
n ot for me
redrhino
29-12-2005, 09:45
Went for it at £98, for all the abuse i give her for long holidays having a mum as a teacher sure can be a bonus. Cheers OP.
NOW SHOWING AS 599 UK POUNDS! :razz:
Nope. Still showing as £98. You looking in the right place?
cjanderson
29-12-2005, 09:48
sister has gone for it, she works at liverpool uni :thumbs:
Can Someone Provide Me With A An Actual Link For Ther 98 Pound Price Pls?
NOW SHOWING AS 599 UK POUNDS! :razz:
Did you click on the Education link on the right hand side of the web page?
fsheehan
29-12-2005, 09:50
Cheers OP gone for one, won't hurt to give it a go! :)
pauljamestracey
29-12-2005, 09:51
NOW SHOWING AS 599 UK POUNDS! :razz:
Not for me it's not it's still showing as 98.70
Cheers to OP Great spot hope it comes off
sorry im with you now!
im not a student so im out of the running!
Wow this will be the best all year if this one comes off, thanks OP.
Cheers to OP. Be great if this comes off.
NOW SHOWING AS 599 UK POUNDS! :razz:
Not for me, you sure you're in the education store?
NOW SHOWING AS 599 UK POUNDS! :razz:
Not for me:
Olympus E-1 Digital SLR + 14-54mm Zuiko digital lens
Based on the FourThirds standard, and specifically designed for professional digital photography it achieves optimum image quality.
Price: £98.70Ready to ship:
24hrs
Free Shipping
Just got Acknowledgement email :D
Just got confirmation email...some 20 mins after ordering
GonzarliS
29-12-2005, 10:03
I've only received an acknowledgment so far. Says the confirmation will follow shortly.
Edit:
Just as I made this post the order confirmation came through!
Brilliant
My mum works at Derby University could i say Ahem!!! make an order for her?
My mum works at Derby University could i say Ahem!!! make an order for her?
Yes :n0rty:
chuteless
29-12-2005, 10:10
Just received the confirmation email aswell. I must admit that from reading the first email, it does sound like they've 'accepted' the order and price...have to see what happens!
Put in my order just now, awaiting confirmation e-mail. Cheers OP.
edit: Just recieved both Acknowledgement and Confirmation :clap: Let's see if the Postie turns up with one :suspect:
supersneak
29-12-2005, 10:20
Thanks Op :notworthy I was looking for a camera for our hoilday next year.
coastersteve
29-12-2005, 10:22
In for a penny! My missus teaches infants so it was worth a shot :thumbs:
whats going to happen if we dont get this offer, are people going to get WATCHDOG to get involved, like what happened on the dell thread :brickwall
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 10:33
whats going to happen if we dont get this offer, are people going to get WATCHDOG to get involved, like what happened on the dell thread :brickwall
I think on the whole these Forums are a lot more mature about accepting when bargains don't come off than we were a few years ago, and certainly a lot better than some other forums. Apple's T&C have given them a way out if it is a misprice, so if they choose not to honour it, then we should all just accept it and move on.
basegreen
29-12-2005, 10:33
worth a shot :)
angel_eyes
29-12-2005, 10:33
Apologies if this is a daft question, but why is the RRP so high? It's only 5Mp - am I missing something?
Thanks OP, have given it a try ;)
Apologies if this is a daft question, but why is the RRP so high? It's only 5Mp - am I missing something?
It is a Digital SLR so you can change lens etc play around with other aspects like exposure etc just like a Pro.
Da_Dapper
29-12-2005, 10:38
does this camera work on windows xp?
Thanks OP, ordered one :) Was looking for a digital camera as well. I only ordered 1 as the wife is a student at Manchester Uni. I can see people buying in bulk and ebaying these!
Yes, its only cos its an apple site they show specs required for Macs - Olympus make it so it's universal anyway.
See this for a review http://www.megapixel.net/reviews/oly-e1/e1-review.html
D
Thanks a lot OP. Ordered at 9:46 got my confirmation at 11:36, excellent. Lets hope it comes off.
lisburnlad
29-12-2005, 10:42
Will they check if you are a student? My wife has recently left college, so I was hoping to use her student card if they do and hope for the best :thinking:
Apple's T&C have given them a way out if it is a misprice,
Clarify this please. I don't see anything in their T&C that covers this and I believe that they are legally obliged to supply once payment has been taken.
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 10:43
Apologies if this is a daft question, but why is the RRP so high? It's only 5Mp - am I missing something?
It also has a fully metal body, and is water resistant.
But I agree that the RRP is a bit OTT when compared to the cheap Nikon and Canon SLRs
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 10:45
Psybear - as posted earlier
The T&Cs suggest that if it is a mis-price then they will not honour it.
2.6 Whilst we will make every effort to supply you with the Products listed on the Order Confirmation, there may be occasions where we are unable to supply these Products because, for example, (i) such Products are no longer being manufactured or available or (ii) we are unable to source relevant components or (iii) if there was a pricing error on the Apple Store Web Site.
As you say, worth a try but nothing lost if it doesn't come off.
Will they check if you are a student? My wife has recently left college, so I was hoping to use her student card if they do and hope for the best :thinking:
From the website:
Shopping Agreement
Can I Purchase?
By clicking “I accept” below, I confirm that I am:
• aged 18 or over
• a student with a valid student card or a teacher, lecturer, tutor or other supervisor of students at a UK education establishment
• I agree to Apple contacting me to check my status. I will provide proof of my status upon request and I agree Apple can refuse my order if I do not provide proof which is satisfactory for Apple. Apple’s decision will be final.
I ordered from them before Christmas in my wife's name - she is a teacher. No check was made. Having said that, you obviously shouldn't be ordering from them if you don't meet the criteria. I can see them carrying out checks in this case if it IS a misprice.
khuatcuong
29-12-2005, 10:48
Is that Olympus E-1 Digital SLR need lens? I think the len is quite expensive. Somebody knows about SL, please tell me.
Cheers,
Cuong
Psybear - as posted earlier
:thinking:
You must be looking at different T&Cs than I am. Here's the 2.6 I can see:
2.6 Whilst we will make every effort to supply you with the Products listed on the Order Confirmation, there may be occasions where we are unable to supply these Products because, for example, such Products are no longer being manufactured or we are unable to source relevant components. In such circumstances we will contact you to inform you and may suggest alternative Products that you might wish to purchase. If you accept our suggestionsthen we will send you a revised Order Confirmation. If you do not accept our suggestions then we will cancel your Order in relation to those Products we cannot supply and repay you any money that you may have paid to us in respect of those Products. Repayment of such monies will be the extent of our liability to you if we are unable to deliver to you the Products you have ordered.
Nothing about misprices there.
Has anyone received this yet at the cheapo price listed?????
Has anyone received this yet at the cheapo price listed?????
What, since this morning!
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 10:57
:thinking:
You must be looking at different T&Cs than I am. Here's the 2.6 I can see:
...
Nothing about misprices there.
:?: You're dead right
But I did honestly cut and paste the section from the Apple web site earlier, so either I was looking at a page in the depths of their site somewhere, or their T&C have changed today
:?: You're dead right
But I did honestly cut and paste the section from the Apple web site earlier, so either I was looking at a page in the depths of their site somewhere, or their T&C have changed today
I am sure I read that too! :doh:
:?: You're dead right
But I did honestly cut and paste the section from the Apple web site earlier, so either I was looking at a page in the depths of their site somewhere, or their T&C have changed today
Lol. Now you made me go look. And I've found where you were looking earlier here (http://store.apple.com/Catalog/uk/Images/salespolicies_consumer.html).
So which T&C do you think they'll use to turn us all down then?
trumpeter
29-12-2005, 11:03
I've gone for this, too. Many thanks to the op. If it turns up, great. If it doesn't then it was worth 10 minutes of my time to try it!
Best wishes, Neil
khuatcuong
29-12-2005, 11:09
Any knows where to get a cheap lens kit? This camera is SLR body only, not come with lens. It must have lens to use(my friend told me)
DJWillis
29-12-2005, 11:11
Is that Olympus E-1 Digital SLR need lens? I think the len is quite expensive. Somebody knows about SL, please tell me.
Some of the extra lenses (the better ones) will cost a LOT more then the camera (at this price).
It does come with a 14-54mm 4/3 style standard lens (that is quite decent by all accounts). It is a total bargain if it comes off if you’re into your photography it is a Digital SLR (and a complex one to learn how to get the best out of if my older E20 is a good reference point).
It's not a camera for the point and shoot crew (IMHO). There are much better pocket cameras around for that niche but for the enthusiast Olympus make well built sturdy cameras, not the best but far from the worst.
pauljamestracey
29-12-2005, 11:11
Any knows where to get a cheap lens kit? This camera is SLR body only, not come with lens. It must have lens to use(my friend told me)
It comes witha lens:
Olympus E-1 Digital SLR + 14-54mm Zuiko digital lens
This includes the lens kit. As the product states "Olympus E-1 Digital SLR + 14-54mm Zuiko digital lens"
edit: :lol: Beaten to it.
No this comes with a lens I am sure.
Da_Dapper
29-12-2005, 11:12
Any knows where to get a cheap lens kit? This camera is SLR body only, not come with lens. It must have lens to use(my friend told me)
But is says 14-54mm Zuiko digital lens? I thought a lens was included?
arun_hallan
29-12-2005, 11:14
Are people going through the apple education website, where you can just enter details, or through the apple higher education website, where you need to be within an education LAN?
Are people going through the apple education website, where you can just enter details, or through the apple higher education website, where you need to be within an education LAN?
Used the one where I enter my details, as the HE website isn't accessible unless your on a university network itself.
arun_hallan
29-12-2005, 11:18
Yeh ok.
Where do they do the check then?
Surely anyone could enter name and institution.
krycheck_uk
29-12-2005, 11:23
I imagine Apple could easily refuse to honour most orders by exercising their right to check if you are entitled to use the education site.
However, it would be funny if the entire order process is automated, and the staff come in after New Year to discover all their stock has been shipped out!
Got my confirmation at 1106 ish
Ordered for my son who is doing a BTEC in IT at college and keeps on about needing a camara for web sites etc
Heres hoping
So, all you guys who have ordered are linked to Education then - so can I use my own details to purchase this for a teacher friend of mine?
Yeh ok.
Where do they do the check then?
Surely anyone could enter name and institution.
Yes, but then you would be lying and breaking their T&Cs. :nono:
I'm doing the first year of my BArch degree at Liverpool University, so I have a valid student card.
Just ordered two. Decent enough reviews, seems like a good camera for £100 ;) Cheers!
khuatcuong
29-12-2005, 11:32
Features
5.0 million pixel Full Frame Transfer CCD
14-54mm Zuiko Digital Lens (35mm equiv: 28-108mm)
3 Frames per second shooting in all settings (TIFF, JPEG and RAW)
CompactFlash II & IBM Microdrive compatible
USB 2.0 and IEEE 1394 (Firewire) compatible for extremely fast image downloading
Unique Supersonic Wave Filter for dust protection
Programme, Aperture priority, Shutter priority and Manual modes
Magnesium Alloy Splashproof Body
What’s in the box
E-1 Digital SLR Body
Li-Ion Battery Pack BLM-1
Li-Ion Battery Charger BCM-1
USB 2.0 Cable
Firewire Cable
Video Cable
Shoulder Strap
Adobe ®Photoshop Elements CD-ROM
Manuals
Warranty Card
The features are 14-54mm Zuiko Digital Lens (35mm equiv: 28-108mm). However, in box part says" E-1 Digital SLR Body",. It does not say any lens coming with this camera. Anyone knows about this?
Just ordered two. Decent enough reviews, seems like a good camera for £100 ;) Cheers!
:oh-hum:
basegreen
29-12-2005, 11:38
it comes with a lens, ok?
It does not say any lens coming with this camera. Anyone knows about this?don't worry too much about it, khuatcuong, 'cos no one's going to get anything anyway ! :)
Just ordered two. Decent enough reviews, seems like a good camera for £100 ;) Cheers!
There always has to be one tosser :mad:
don't worry too much about it, khuatcuong, 'cos no one's going to get anything anyway ! :)
Lmao, I agree...
People are thinking a little ahead of themselves.
Good Luck Everyone :thumbs:
lardarse
29-12-2005, 11:50
Ive gone for one and used the Edn store stacks of times before, the first time however I had to take a phone call at work AND then even fax off a copy of my works security card on headed paper.
Cheers OP
Steev
PS whats the worst that could happen (bankrupting apple?)
Just ordered one!
Cheers to original poster.
There always has to be one tosser :mad:
How incredibly rude? What gives you the right to insult me - and why? I ordered two since it's a great price, one for me and one for my brother who'd greatly appreciate an upgrade from his ixus v3.
Take your personal problems somewhere else, thanks.
Have to admit I considered buying two myself. In my case both me and my Dad are keen amateur photographers (he loves trains and I love nature). We live 150 miles apart so not like we could share.
In the end just sent him the link so he could decide himself though. Plus, if Apple do start saying No it's always the multiple orders that get cancelled first.
I remember the Woolworths Sagem Phone Mis-Price with the free Mini H-Fi. I ordered a couple as Xmas presents. Some people were ordering 10, 20, 50 of them. In the end I think Woollies gave people a maximum of two. The people that had ordered loads were going Mental. I was just happy to get a bargain.
I made some poeple very happy that Xmas!
How incredibly rude? What gives you the right to insult me - and why? I ordered two since it's a great price, one for me and one for my brother who'd greatly appreciate an upgrade from his ixus v3.
Take your personal problems somewhere else, thanks.
You have a lot to learn about online misprice buying etiquette matey.
tipicus/ElBobbo: Please keep it friendly in here! ElBobbo could have made it a little more clear why he bought two (based on the rules we have in place about people stating that they are buying multiples) but he did only get two and not 10!
arun_hallan
29-12-2005, 12:00
Considering that the camera is over 2 years old, and is only a 5 megapixel, it *may* not be a misprice. Apple could be trying to offload them. Or one can only hope.
Anyway i've ordered a few aswell - don't see what the harm is.
filthypig
29-12-2005, 12:02
Considering that the camera is over 2 years old, and is only a 5 megapixel, it *may* not be a misprice. Apple could be trying to offload them. Or one can only hope.
Anyway i've ordered a few aswell - don't see what the harm is.
Oh my god !! A few !! What will Tipicus say next ;)
So we go from 2 to a few....
I predict that, if this does come off, we'll be seeing them on ebay :mad:
Still I'll be happy with the one I ordered. I just hope the poeple ordering multiples done ruin it for the rest of us.
GonzarliS
29-12-2005, 12:06
Glad I got my order in before the greedy sods who started ordering "A Few"
cjanderson
29-12-2005, 12:08
i have expplained to my sister the joy of a misprice.
you get big excitement for a few days, as you check emails, has it shipped, whats does the email say, whats does the T&C say. check credit card, check the forums for updates for others.
whether it comes off or not is mostly irrelevant, the fun is in the waiting.
Despite my earlier plea, someone's gone and posted it on MSE. :oh-hum:
Now the real feeding frenzy will begin.
Gone for one. Don't expect this to come off but thanks to OP!
pauljamestracey
29-12-2005, 12:10
So we go from 2 to a few....
I predict that, if this does come off, we'll be seeing them on ebay :mad:
Still I'll be happy with the one I ordered. I just hope the poeple ordering multiples done ruin it for the rest of us.
Maybe Apple will honour the orders for one and those being greedy may well have their orders rejected, why does anyone want a few and how many is a few
I've ordered one and will be well pleased if it comes off but I ain't gonna get angry if Apple reject the orders.............
Considering that the camera is over 2 years old, and is only a 5 megapixel, it *may* not be a misprice. Apple could be trying to offload them. Or one can only hope.
Anyway i've ordered a few aswell - don't see what the harm is.
Well that's just earned you a black book entry :|
alexander2015
29-12-2005, 12:15
What you chaps don't seem to understand is that there will have been thousands of people who have haven't posted. Some will have ordered none, others will have ordered over 20 each to sell on Ebay.
The people who have ordered 2 will not really impact Apple's decision, it is the people who haven't posted and ordered 20 or more.
I have just received a confimation email from Apple. Doesn't this mean that they have to sell it?
As I know the initial one still has its T&C's but the confirmation is something different isn't it?
Just got off the phone to Apple as i'm actaully a student at Uni and did need one of these, but mistake there end...so expect a few more e-mails coming your way if you have ordered one :(
AdminSpod
29-12-2005, 12:18
Considering that the camera is over 2 years old, and is only a 5 megapixel, it *may* not be a misprice.
Considering it is listed as £599 on the non-education section that seems unlikely.
Thanks OP - was tempted but decided against - don't really want another lens system.
arun_hallan
29-12-2005, 12:19
I meant two when i said a few.
I don't really care how many other ppl order. I don't mind if the whole thing goes through or not.
Really, those of you complaining are only doing so because you're worried you won't get your order!
arun_hallan
29-12-2005, 12:21
Well that's just earned you a black book entry :|
Why have i earned a black book entry for ordering two?
Why have i earned a black book entry for ordering two?
You should take all moderator decisions to pm if you want to question them.
wizbowes
29-12-2005, 12:23
I meant two when i said a few.
Really, those of you complaining are only doing so because you're worried you won't get your order!
Er yeah - I think that's exactly everybody's point isn't it?
Just got off the phone to Apple as i'm actaully a student at Uni and did need one of these, but mistake there end...so expect a few more e-mails coming your way if you have ordered one :(
:lol: :lol: :lol: :brickwall :doh:
So they know about it yeah? (or do now) :D
arun_hallan
29-12-2005, 12:26
I tried to PM but it didnt work so i'll email directly.
Ok i'm gonna stop posting, coz i know that i'll start gettin flamed even more.
I just believe that fundamentally, if we're not doing something 'wrong' then it doesnt matter how many we order.
When people worry when others order many items, it just proves that they know they're doing something 'wrong'. So we're all as bad as each other.
Anyway that's just my thoughts - i shall have a read of the forum rules again and adhere to them.
Well lady said the exact modle number and misprice before i had even finished saying 'Digital.....' :)
great spot cheers OP am in uni hopefully i will qualify!
Just called my cc company and they have check availability of funds, and it has been approved...nothing taken yet.
khuatcuong
29-12-2005, 12:36
From Apply email of acknowledgement:" Please be advised that until you have received your order confirmation, Apple reserves the right to decline your order and refund any payment we may have received from you".
Anyone gets order confirmed should be fine.Personally I think
DarthVader
29-12-2005, 12:39
My student status has come in handy for once. Ordered one - hope it comes through. :thumbs:
i have expplained to my sister the joy of a misprice.
you get big excitement for a few days, as you check emails, has it shipped, whats does the email say, whats does the T&C say. check credit card, check the forums for updates for others.
whether it comes off or not is mostly irrelevant, the fun is in the waiting.
how true, it's the thrill of the chase that does it for me...
gbowman2412
29-12-2005, 12:43
I've had to order that camera!! The benefits of being a teacher other than the amazing holidays are finally shining through! Cheers OP.
filthypig
29-12-2005, 12:45
Well lady said the exact modle number and misprice before i had even finished saying 'Digital.....' :)
Off the back of this bombshell has anyone had any emails saying that it won't be honoured yet?
Fingers still very much crossed :thumbs:
Very strange, a double misprice - it's even cheaper on the Irish Apple Education website - just 99 euro!!!
well I ordered it a few minutes ago - and promptly received the initial email followed, a few minutes later, by a confirmation..... giving me butterflies because bargain or not my bf is gonna kill me if it comes through!!!!
Strikes me as funny that there are a disproportionate number of members here today with a low post count :suspect: Not that there is anything wrong with a low post count, it's probably more healthy :lol:
Dave.
Just got a confirmation:
Dear Neil xxxxxxx,
Thank you for placing your Apple Store order. We are pleased to send you this order confirmation containing details of your order.
Before your product is shipped, you will receive a shipment notification email. To check the current status of your order please visit our URL http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore?orderStatusSelfService=yes
Your web order number is W7858xxxx, this is an important reference number. Should you have any further queries, you will need to quote this reference number
Your reference is: W7858xxxx
Order Date: 29.12.2005
Billing Address: Shipment Address:
Neil xxxxxxx Neil xxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx xxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx xxxx
xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx
xxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxx
Phone Contact
Daytime: xxxxxxx
Evening:
Item Number Product Number Product Description Quantity Ordered Price Est Build time
000010 TB011ZM/A OLYMPUS E1-ZML 1 84.00 within 24 hours
Total: 84.00
Shipping Cost: 0.00
Discount (Incl. in Total): 425.79
VAT @ 17.50% : 14.70
Order Total: 98.70
Currency: GBP
Payment Method: Credit Card Visa/MCard
Note: Your order will not ship until all items are available
How long will my order take?
Your order should ship on or before 30.12.2005
We estimate that you will receive delivery of your order 3-9 business days from this date. Once your order has dispatched,
you will receive a Dispatch Notification email, which will provide you with detailed delivery information.
Art Vanderlay
29-12-2005, 12:59
Despite my earlier plea, someone's gone and posted it on MSE. :oh-hum:
Now the real feeding frenzy will begin.
Not just that but they have cut and pasted my original post verbatim :nono:
Shall I sue Martyn Lewis for hosting copyrighted material :lol:
Despite my earlier plea, someone's gone and posted it on MSE. :oh-hum:
Now the real feeding frenzy will begin.
Since when are housewives entitled to a student discount?
Strikes me as funny that there are a disproportionate number of members here today with a low post count :suspect: Not that there is anything wrong with a low post count, it's probably more healthy :lol:
Dave.
The joys of lurking know no bounds.... ;)
Looks like a great bargain. Just a shame that I can't buy stuff from the education store :cry:
What's considered to be a low post count?
What's considered to be a low post count?
Anything below 20,000 posts.
Just curious whether I'll get my EGG Money 10% cashback as well?
cheers, and fortunately just about all my friends are teachers (or policemen).
Anything below 20,000 posts.
:lol:
OH, and I've just ordered one too since my son is in full time education :lol:
Awesome find, been looking for a D-SLR too :D
Cheers Art, you're a star! Fingers crossed it comes through now!
well I ordered it a few minutes ago - and promptly received the initial email followed, a few minutes later, by a confirmation..... giving me butterflies because bargain or not my bf is gonna kill me if it comes through!!!!
strike that - was allowed to buy photoshop elements and camera comes bundled with it :D now I can have a cry when they cancel it!!!! how come they haven't pulled it off site yet if they know it's a misprice?
my girlfiend mums sisters husbands brothers nephew is at Uni does that count? lol
OH, and I've just ordered one too since my son is in full time education :lol:
I was just thinking that... wouldn't it count if you have children in full time education?
markabuckley
29-12-2005, 14:04
Just spoke to them and they are fully aware of the "misprice"
Website will be ammended shortly :(
Mark.
Has anyone else had an order confirmation?
Just spoke to them and they are fully aware of the "misprice"
Website will be ammended shortly :(
Mark.
boooooooo
Has anyone else had an order confirmation?
Yep, had an Acknowledgment followed by a 'Confirmed' email half an hour later.
Just spoke to them and they are fully aware of the "misprice"
Website will be AMENDED shortly :(
Mark.
And they're going to do what exactly????
PJDelaney
29-12-2005, 14:19
Did anyone who rung actually ask if they would honour the price rather than ask if they knew about it?
Sure taking their time updating the website! :nuts:
Sure taking their time updating the website!could it be a marketing exercise to gather all our email addys and personal details ?? :nuts:
I just received my order confirmation.
raymondlin
29-12-2005, 14:39
I've ordered one now too ! Fingers crossed, i really need a new camera.
Just spoke to them and they are fully aware of the "misprice"
Website will be ammended shortly :(
Mark.
Did Mr Buckley bother to ask if they were going to honor the mis-price?
They are on dodgey ground especially as they sent out e-mail confirmations and have made no effort to contact customer either by phone or e-mail.
Would be bad press for them and Olympus
raymondlin
29-12-2005, 14:52
I don't have the confirmation yet, only the acknowlegdement, come on, my make case water tight by sending me the confirmation !
I notice there are 3 newly listed on ebay....didn't take long...
I sense a glitch in the matrix ... :suspect:
What you chaps don't seem to understand is that there will have been thousands of people who have haven't posted. Some will have ordered none, others will have ordered over 20 each to sell on Ebay.
Just got in and logged on and seen this thread.
The above is probably the most spot-on posting on it. Look on eBay for any of the 'must have' bargains on here and there will be countless people knocking them out on eBay. Does anyone do any checking of these people against DVDForums user IDs and seek to 'black mark' any users found to be abusing Forum rules?
Showing as £599 now.
still £98.70 here
have recieved 1*acknowledgement email, and 1*confirmation email...
raymondlin
29-12-2005, 15:07
^^ Same, order confirmed !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
I notice there are 3 newly listed on ebay....didn't take long...
Bit Riskey posting on E-bay without the item especially as they might not honour it and the delivery is up to 9 days
Would be bad press for them and Olympus (not to honour it) That's hilarious. I'll bet Apple and Olympus are quaking at the thought of all the bad press that will be whipped up over a simple misprice. :lol:
I don't have the confirmation yet, only the acknowlegdement, come on, my make case water tight by sending me the confirmation ! Watertight, oh you are killing me :lol:
Does anyone do any checking of these people against DVDForums user IDs and seek to 'black mark' any users found to be abusing Forum rules?I doubt it, but you are welcome to try. It would be essentially impossible though. How would that work? On the offchance such a user had the same username for eBay and DVD Forums, you wouldn't be able to be certain it was the same person.
Shows £599.99 for me now.
The above is probably the most spot-on posting on it. Look on eBay for any of the 'must have' bargains on here and there will be countless people knocking them out on eBay.
Not much you can do to stop them unless they are obvious with email addresses or exactly the same name. The minute it went on MSE it probably had ten times as many orders than here....(probably from the same person :p)
DarthVader
29-12-2005, 15:14
Not much you can do to stop them unless they are obvious with email addresses or exactly the same name. The minute it went on MSE it probably had ten times as many orders than here....(probably from the same person :p)
What is this MSE you speak of? :shrug: :thinking:
EDIT: Ah - Money Saving Expert forum.
still £98.70 here
have recieved 1*acknowledgement email, and 1*confirmation email...
How did you get it to show that? Direct link?
That's hilarious. I'll bet Apple and Olympus are quaking at the thought of all the bad press that will be whipped up over a simple misprice.
Since you have to state that you are a student/staff and you are using it for research/teaching they could sue most of the people ordering, it for fraud.
raymondlin
29-12-2005, 15:17
well, their email it says
Please be advised that until you have received your order confirmation, Apple reserves the right to decline your order and refund any payment we may have received from you. In the event that we decline your order, we will strive to contact you by e-mail or telephone or mail.
Doesn't it then imply once the order confirmation is sent, then they have to honor it?
p.s. I am a student anyway :)
How did you get it to show that? Direct link?
just clicked through to the educational store, searched for olympus e-1...
DarthVader
29-12-2005, 15:19
well, their email it says
Doesn't it then imply once the order confirmation is sent, then they have to honor it?
I'm sure it says somewhere in their T&C's that they essentially reserve the right to cancel up until the point the item is actually sent.
raymondlin
29-12-2005, 15:22
fair enough, its worth a shot anyway. Fingers crossed !
DarthVader
29-12-2005, 15:24
fair enough, its worth a shot anyway. Fingers crossed !
It definitely would be a nice bargain for the actual students and teachers amongst us. :p
That's hilarious. I'll bet Apple and Olympus are quaking at the thought of all the bad press that will be whipped up over a simple misprice. :lol:
Watertight, oh you are killing me :lol:
I doubt it, but you are welcome to try. It would be essentially impossible though. How would that work? On the offchance such a user had the same username for eBay and DVD Forums, you wouldn't be able to be certain it was the same person.
So why did Kodak honour their Camera mis-price bad press if they didn't versus good press if they did. If I remember correctly the legal ppl were split and Kodak could have spent years in the courts and of course more than money than the misprice. Lets just wait and see.
And any way you do seem to like to ridicule others for their opinion were you 'Bullied as a Child'
It definitely would be a nice bargain for the actual students and teachers amongst us. :p
I would imagine that nearly every one in the country falls under their catorgy
DarthVader
29-12-2005, 15:35
I would imagine that nearly every one in the country falls under their catorgy
Aye no doubt most people who have attempted to buy it have a child at school or know a child at school or a teacher or a university student but really are not in education themselves. :suspect:
raymondlin
29-12-2005, 15:37
So why did Kodak honour their Camera mis-price bad press if they didn't versus good press if they did. If I remember correctly the legal ppl were split and Kodak could have spent years in the courts and of course more than money than the misprice. Lets just wait and see.
And any way you do seem to like to ridicule others for their opinion were you 'Bullied as a Child'
In that case, it was label Special offer. In this case it isn't. And if it did come to court, the court will look at it does the reasonable person really expect to find a Digital SLR for under £100 ? If it doesn't then it will rule it is indeed a mistake and decide the case in Apple's favour.
silentriver
29-12-2005, 15:39
well im at uni, and i need a new camera,would love this, worst thing that happens they say no and gie the money back.
In that case, it was label Special offer. In this case it isn't. And if it did come to court, the court will look at it does the reasonable person really expect to find a Digital SLR for under £100 ? If it doesn't then it will rule it is indeed a mistake and decide the case in Apple's favour.
Fair one but then the discount is clearly quoted on the order confirmation
Does anyone know which version of Photoshop elements it comes with?
raymondlin
29-12-2005, 15:49
probably the latest one, but that's the least of my worries at the moment.
Apple is probably now getting their lawyers together to draft a letter to reject all the orders. The next 24 hours we should know if we get the bargain or not.
Does anyone know which version of Photoshop elements it comes with?
Surely an entirely redundant question ? :D
DarthVader
29-12-2005, 15:50
I wonder if this will turn into another Futurama style incident. ;)
I wonder if this will turn into another Futurama style incident. ;)
lol I hope so - I got my Futurama boxset :D
So why did Kodak honour their Camera mis-price bad press if they didn't versus good press if they did.
Are you talking about the Kodak misprice that concluded in January 2002? There are two big things that differentiate that misprice with this one.
1. The Kodak misprice was a reduction of £229, so about 70%. The Olympus misprice was a reduction of at least £500, some say even more. The bigger price that a company who has done a mispriced have to eat, the less likely they are to honour it. This is a huge, whopping great big misprice.
2. Since January 2002, numerous precedents have been set as to what a retailer can do when it has taken orders at a 'mispriced amount'. Back in 2002, things were less clear, and Kodak were unsure of what they could get away with, so honoured the orders. With the benefit of the interim years, avenues open to Apple are:
- Say 'Sorry, due to unprecedented demand we are unable to source any more of these items at this special price. We have refunded your money.' This happens all the time. Are people really going to launch legal proceedings and go to the European Court of Human Rights over this? Doubtful.
- Say 'Sorry, there was a problem on our website for a few hours and you ordered something that was incorrectly priced. We apologise and have refunded your money. Here is a £15 discount voucher as a gesture of goodwill'.
- Say 'Sorry, this price is for Education Students only. To qualify, we require you to send in proof of your student/teacher status, in the form of a 2005-2006 NUS photo card with your name upon it'. At which point all the non-students are stumped.
Online retailers now have T&Cs to make their cases watertight, should misprices occur. Kodak didn't have that back in 2002. That is why these cases are different.
By the way, Apple's 'ultimate get-out clause' is clause 2.6:
2.6 Whilst we will make every effort to supply you with the Products listed on the Order Confirmation, there may be occasions where we are unable to supply these Products because, for example, such Products are no longer being manufactured or we are unable to source relevant components. In such circumstances we will contact you to inform you and may suggest alternative Products that you might wish to purchase. If you accept our suggestions then we will send you a revised Order Confirmation. If you do not accept our suggestions then we will cancel your Order in relation to those Products we cannot supply and repay you any money that you may have paid to us in respect of those Products. Repayment of such monies will be the extent of our liability to you if we are unable to deliver to you the Products you have ordered.
And any way you do seem to like to ridicule others for their opinion were you 'Bullied as a Child'No. I like to find humour in people's desperation to believe they have snagged a misprice bargain.
Surely an entirely redundant question ? :D
Not really, I don't need another D-SLR having recently bought a KM 5D, but Elements is on my wish list. Camera thrown in for almost free would be nice. Anyway, despite this being a few years old, Jessop's online price for the body only is a whopping £649.99
Crikey so much that's great and so much that's bad about the Bargain Forums all rolled up into one thread :)
Aye no doubt most people who have attempted to buy it have a child at school or know a child at school or a teacher or a university student but really are not in education themselves. :suspect:
Yes... the problem of course is that Apple have covered themselves by saying in their T&Cs that the person who places the order must be
a) 18 years old or over AND
b) a registered student / teacher
Saying "Oh I have a 12 year old in Year 7, I am entitled to the discount" isn't enough.
Full T&C information here:
2.1 T2.1 To place an Order you must be 18 years of age or over and be accessible by non cellular telephone. In order to be entitled to benefit from the special discounts on the Apple Store for Education you must be either a registered student and possess a valid student I.D. or you must be engaged as a teacher or lecturer at an education institution and must require the Product for your own use or for your classes or for research. Apple is entitled at any time to require that you produce evidence of your entitlement to purchase under this provision. Apple reserves the right to cancel your order in its absolute discretion if we should determine that you are not a student, teacher or lecturer and/or that you do not require the Product for your own use or for teaching or research purposes. We will inform you if we cancel your order on the above basis. Any payments you have made will be refunded to you.
BTW I'm not saying Apple won't honour the orders (they might). I am just saying that they seem to have enough wiggle room to get out of it, should they want to.
raymondlin
29-12-2005, 16:01
Worst case sceniro, i wasted a few hours on this.
Best case sceniro, I get a camera for £99 !
Probable - I am a student with a valid NUS card, so there is still hope or hope of getting a voucher or something towards my ipod video. :)
I am not holding my breath, was going to get a Fuji E510 from ***** anyway for £130.
Famished
29-12-2005, 16:03
I ordered mine and got both emails. Checked the site and it says that it will be dispatched tomorrow? Fingers crossed.
Just gone for one myself as I am a student. Hopefully it'll be honoured but I think I'll hold off on buying a range of accessories for it...
DarthVader
29-12-2005, 16:03
Fortunately for me I have a student card, a student number, a university and all the appropriate info. Although AFAIK I am not signed up the NUS but then that's merely a student's union rather than a unversity. I'm sure my universty ID will be enough. ;)
Ferdy147
29-12-2005, 16:03
Are you talking about the Kodak misprice that concluded in January 2002? There are two big things that differentiate that misprice with this one.
Thr kodak deal was honoured because the confirmation email stated that a contract had been formed. £98.70 isnt an obvious misprice either especially as the page indicates a discount of £4xx. The all important factor in the kodak saga was the confirmation email.
Fortunately for me I have a student card, a student number, a university and all the appropriate info. Although AFAIK I am not signed up the NUS but then that's merely a student's union rather than a unversity. I'm sure my universty ID will be enough. ;)
They will accept this as proof of student status.
Thr kodak deal was honoured because the confirmation email stated that a contract had been formed. £98.70 isnt an obvious misprice either especially as the page indicates a discount of £4xx. The all important factor in the kodak saga was the confirmation email.
No, I believe the all important factor was the confirmation email ALLIED to the fact that Kodak's terms and conditions didn't have any get out clause proviso allowing them to cancel the contract if they are 'unable to supply the goods'.
Apple do have this in their T&Cs.
No. I like to find humour in people's desperation to believe they have snagged a misprice bargain.
Everyone loves a bargain - it is not realy desperation most people are just trying to get a bargain and perhaps one over on the company. There are very few people who would blow gasket if this was not honored, most will just get on with searching for the next bargain.
I prefer the humour of a large company have to dig it self out of the pooh - as they make enough out of us consumers anyway
Ferdy147
29-12-2005, 16:20
No, I believe the all important factor was the confirmation email ALLIED to the fact that Kodak's terms and conditions didn't have any get out clause proviso allowing them to cancel the contract if they are 'unable to supply the goods'.
Apple do have this in their T&Cs.
Well a contract can't be cancelled once its entered into otherwise it'd be pointless! So any terms and conditions saying that the contract could be cancelled would be void in any case.
This situation doesn't apply to apple as no contract has yet been formed. They haven't stated that a contract has been formed in their correspondance. Legally the contract would be formed when payment is taken and then they would be obliged to supply the goods.
It's not a blatant misprice either. I didnt know that this camera was worth £600+ before today and then it does say it's discounted. The contract could be cancelled if it was a blatant misprice such as the 49p tvs from Homebase/***** earlier in the year.
alexander2015
29-12-2005, 16:29
Well a contract can't be cancelled once its entered into otherwise it'd be pointless! So any terms and conditions saying that the contract could be cancelled would be void in any case.
This situation doesn't apply to apple as no contract has yet been formed. They haven't stated that a contract has been formed in their correspondance. Legally the contract would be formed when payment is taken and then they would be obliged to supply the goods.
It's not a blatant misprice either. I didnt know that this camera was worth £600+ before today and then it does say it's discounted. The contract could be cancelled if it was a blatant misprice such as the 49p tvs from Homebase/***** earlier in the year.
But haven't they taken everyone's payment and so should have formed a contract?
My payment was taken straight away?
I'm definately not going to get stressed if it doesn't come off as it is idiots like those who annoy me. Like the people who sue the NHS because they were misdiagnosed or if they tripped over a curb stone. People like that should be executed......
So basically, because they have taken payment, has the contact been formed?
And has anyone else's payment been taken?
DarthVader
29-12-2005, 16:34
So basically, because they have taken payment, has the contact been formed?
The contract is not really formed until Apple send out the goods to you. There are plenty of ways they can get out of it before that point.
There's not much point in getting all excited over this. After all if it is honoured then great but as with most misprices it probably won't be. Don't people learn after incidents such as Futurama for £15.99 or whatever it cost? :n0rty:
dvds2000
29-12-2005, 16:35
Surely this in the first email is saying when you have an order confirmation there is a contract
Please note that this Order Acknowledgement is an order status update for information purposes only. In the event of our acceptance of your payment and order, we will issue you a subsequent Order Confirmation at the following e-mail address: x
Please be advised that until you have received your order confirmation, Apple reserves the right to decline your order and refund any payment we may have received from you. In the event that we decline your order, we will strive to contact you by e-mail or telephone or mail.
I would say the bits in bold clearly mean there is a contract when the confirmation is sent?
raymondlin
29-12-2005, 16:35
Well a contract can't be cancelled once its entered into otherwise it'd be pointless! So any terms and conditions saying that the contract could be cancelled would be void in any case.
This situation doesn't apply to apple as no contract has yet been formed. They haven't stated that a contract has been formed in their correspondance. Legally the contract would be formed when payment is taken and then they would be obliged to supply the goods.
It's not a blatant misprice either. I didnt know that this camera was worth £600+ before today and then it does say it's discounted. The contract could be cancelled if it was a blatant misprice such as the 49p tvs from Homebase/***** earlier in the year.
A contract can be overturn by the court if it finds it's a " Mistake ", the term Mistake is actual legal meaning. Ususally it will put the parties where it was before the contract has taken place.
DarthVader
29-12-2005, 16:36
Surely this in the first email is saying when you have an order confirmation there is a contract
I would say the bits in bold clearly mean there is a contract when the confirmation is sent?
Have a gander at their T&C's.
applebwl
29-12-2005, 16:36
Like the people who sue the NHS because they were misdiagnosed or if they tripped over a curb stone. People like that should be executed......
Are you sure you are in full time education ??
alexander2015
29-12-2005, 16:40
Like the people who sue the NHS because they were misdiagnosed or if they tripped over a curb stone. People like that should be executed......
Are you sure you are in full time education ??
I'm just saying that the people who think they can get something for nothing, and if they don't they just sue the hell away.
The people who sue are the ones who have caused all the ridiculous health and safety laws.
dvds2000
29-12-2005, 16:47
Have a gander at their T&C's.
I have and cant see where it actually states the point the contract is formed, so reading everything else, I would say it is at the point of order acceptance
2.3 When you place your Order, we will issue you with a Web Order Number. We will do this via the Apple Store Web Site, unless you have placed your Order by telephone, in which case we will issue your Web Order Number when you telephone us.
2.4 By placing an Order, you make an offer to us to purchase the Products you have selected on these terms and conditions. We may or may not accept your offer at our discretion.
2.5 If we accept your Order, we will notify you of our acceptance by issuing an Order Confirmation. We will send your Order Confirmation to you by e-mail provided you have indicated an e-mail address on your Order Form. Otherwise we will send the Order Confirmation by post. The Order Confirmation will be effective on sending. If we cannot accept your Order we will attempt to contact you by email or telephone or mail.
They can probably cancel 80% of the orders through the fact that most won't have been placed by students/teachers, and the rest through the 'if we cannot supply as they are not being made any more' clause but if they do that then they wouldn't be able to offer them again at a higher price.
At the end of the day thopugh, it's probably a misprice, if it comes off great, if not then no ones lost anything (except the muppets who have them on fleabay already who hopefully will get negs :lol: )
I reckon they will initially put all orders for this on hold whilst they check each one for -
By clicking “I accept” below, I confirm that I am:
• aged 18 or over
• a student with a valid student card or a teacher, lecturer, tutor or other supervisor of students at a UK education establishment
• I agree to Apple contacting me to check my status. I will provide proof of my status upon request and I agree Apple can refuse my order if I do not provide proof which is satisfactory for Apple. Apple’s decision will be final.
By rigourously enforcing those conditions they can probably reject the majority of orders on the basis that the person ordering has to be 18+ and the one in education.
Genuine orders after that can be rejected on the basis of availability/stock. I would not imagine that Apple would keep many of these in stock.
What I don't get is that it is still there at the 'misprice'. Normally, retailers remove the item or state it is out of stock as soon as it becomes apparent that they have a problem..
(except the muppets who have them on fleabay already who hopefully will get negs :lol: )
What they have them on ebay already!! :brickwall :cuckoo: :mad:
Ohh looky 1000th post :clap: (about time too)
If they were going to honour the orders, i cant see them not checking everyone out to make sure they are a student/teacher, then hopefully those of us who can prove it will get them :nuts:
arun_hallan
29-12-2005, 17:05
The fact that they havent removed it, and the fact that on apple education store ireland the price is 99 euros, it *may* not be a misprice.
Cheers to the OP!
The last time I placed an order via Apples Education site it was for a Nano I-pod.
The guy on the phone checked that I had LEA Ref numbers available if needed.
Order went through no problem although, he did say that now he had approved??
my educational status I should always order through my approved account to avoid any problems in future!
I think Apple will use this to weed out persons it deems not to be entitled to place orders via Education site.
:)
Still showing on the WEB Site if this was a mis-price, it would have been taken of by now- wouldn't it. ??????
Thanks to the op for this. I have my confirmation email from Apple and from my previous experience from ordering from the Eduction store I would not be surprised if I get a knock at 7.30am tommorrow morning from DHL etc...
And if not, well it's all very exciting isn't it. :dork:
Bry...happy new year coop's and duffod. :wave:
And if not, well it's all very exciting isn't it. :dork:
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Totally agree
psionite
29-12-2005, 18:13
Thanks to the OP for this, I've ordered one, not getting my hopes up, but this would be one hell of a deal if it came through.
markabuckley
29-12-2005, 18:15
Its gone off the site now :(
Probably run out of stock
Mark.
Well I'm a student of life and I have the scares to prove it :doh: They can look if they want.
I've ordered 900,090 cameras to smack people over the head with when they get in my way. :cuckoo:
I might stick 100,000 on eby for free to screw with everyone else too!! :thinking:
how do ya like that?
Its gone off the site now :(
Probably run out of stock
Mark.
Unlikely as its still on the normal apple site. More likely that they have taken it off to fix the pricing error.
DeadYankee
29-12-2005, 18:26
I think they should hand deliver them with a free box of chocolates and a £200 cheque to thank people for their valuable custom
:nuts:
Good luck people but really, get a reality check
Damn this forum! I had a simple life before I found this place and all of these wonderful, wonderful bargains! :luv:
Hope I get a pay rise soon.......... :thumbs:
I've got my pitchfork and lantern ready,anyone up for a lynching :nuts:
Good luck people but really, get a reality check
Aww shucks! You mean you think we might not get em? :cuckoo: :p
Ferdy147
29-12-2005, 18:49
But haven't they taken everyone's payment and so should have formed a contract?
My payment was taken straight away?
I'm definately not going to get stressed if it doesn't come off as it is idiots like those who annoy me. Like the people who sue the NHS because they were misdiagnosed or if they tripped over a curb stone. People like that should be executed......
So basically, because they have taken payment, has the contact been formed?
And has anyone else's payment been taken?
Yes from what I remember of Kodak and the Working Lunch feature.
The offer on the website is know as an 'Invitation to treat' and is the same as a product being in store. You can take the item to the counter and they can decline to supply it to you at the said price because there is a mistake etc. This is the stage we are at with Apple I believe. Once the money is taken then it constitutes acceptance on the retailers part and the formation of a contract between the two parties. The retailer must now supply the item to the consumer.
Raymondin is right about the court being able to overturn on the basis of a 'mistake' but the point is it's a contract that apple themselves cant break....or at least not from my armchair knowledge of the law. I believe to do this they need to show that it was an obvious mistake (49p TV for example). £98.70 for a 5MP digital camera isnt an obvious mistake. Of course if you know your cameras then you'd know its worth a lot more but the average person could probably reasonably assume that to be a genuine price.
With regards to the money being taken - I'm not sure whether it has been taken. My available balance is showing £97.80 below my actual balance although I'm not sure whether, as with credit cards/limits, this is a case of the amount being authorised by the bank but not actually withdrawn.
Either way it's all legal technicalities and I still dont think it would come off!
Thanks to the OP by the way!
I think they should hand deliver them with a free box of chocolates and a £200 cheque to thank people for their valuable custom
:nuts:
Good luck people but really, get a reality check
:lol:
Will £200 be enough ?
Maybe Apple will give those that complain diamond encrusted platinum special edition Ipods. :doh:
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