Blade Runner dvd

[BODRUL]

Just watched the film. can someone explain the ending.

I heard that Harrison Ford's character was a replicant but the ending does not make sense.

Please Help

Please use spoiler tags to avoid spoiling for anyone who hasn't seen it. Thanks. Gromit

[Jimmyboy]

spoiler !. ;)

You might want to re-edit that.

[gZa]

Well in the director's cut...

[Very short answer]
Deckard has a dream about a unicorn...
...and as it foreshadowed that Rachael is a replicant because Deckard knows the memories/dreams she's had (ala the spider story - amongst other things).
Therefore when Gaff makes a paper unicorn at the end he's 'telling' Deckard that he's a replicant too.
Do you see?

[cjbarker]

Just got the directors cut from play for £8. Is the original available on DVD?

[TimJBart]

yeh i have directors cut, but i really want to see the original version with narration and the freaky ending!

[GAmbrose]

Freaky ending? whats so freaky about some old footage from The Shining and Harrison Ford doing a voice over?

Gary A

[Ron Hill]

Bodrul: In case you don't know what the black box up above is try drag highlighting it as if you were going to copy text.

Just a bit of spontaneous newbie help there. :)

[Dan Druff]

I, and most others in the BladeZone (http://www.bladezone.com) site do not agree that Deckard is a replicant. I know Ridley himself states this in The Edge of Blade Runner, but to be honest I would prefer if he were human, with human foibles. Deckard is, after all, basically a depressed loner. This was partly the appeal of Do androids dream of electric sheep in the first place. I know the movie is Ridley's vision, but I see the ending as a comment on Rachels memories, 'its too bad she won't live, but then again, who does?', which of course Deckard knew all too well.

[dogbert]

can anyone tell me what did happen in the original ending last time i saw it was when i was about ten and i cant remember the ending ?!!!!!!

[Gozer]

Deckard and Rachael get in the lift, the doors close. Next you see outtakes from the beginning of The Shining. Helicopter shots over countryside. Next you see deckards reflection on a car windowscreen looking out onto a forest. Some voice over and then credits role.

I think thats it, only seen that version once.

[Ron Hill]

The dialogue of the non-DC ending also mentioned that Rachel had no "expiry date" so she would live a "normal" lifespan. Bit naff considering she's a machine.

The DC ending feels more complete to me. A real sense of irony in it I thought. The hunter becoming the hunted etc.

Edited to avoid giving it all away. Gromit

[Gromit]

Please use the spoiler tags when discussing key aspects of the film. Somebody may not have seen it.

Thanks

Gromit

[Ron Hill]

Sorry Gromit. Forgot myself there!

[satin]

There's also the fact that when you see a replicants eyes reflecting light ( emphasised with the owl and Rachael ) they look as if they are mirrors, ie. not the way human eyes would react. There is a point in the film when Deckards eyes react the same way, which in my book makes him, if not a replicant, then definately not human

[NexusSheep]

There have been a couple of references to the ending of BR, where apparent outtakes from The Shining were used. As I understand it, the scenic shots were footage that was filmed by Kubrick, but subsequently was not used in The Shining. So he gave the footage to Scott. I could be wrong, of course, but that's what I thought I read somewhere. (May have been at www.brmovie.com , not sure).

[gZa]

Look if the director states......that Deckard is a replicant then who are we to argue! The only reason people still question this are those that watched the original (butchered studio) release that was less explict about this point. Surely they now see that it was always intended that Deckard was a replicant, but the studio tried to change this after the fact.As for the SE DVD coming soon - I'm not fussed about the original version being included but what I do hope is that some of the more violent footage (from the original is re-instated)Tyrell's death by Batty's thumbs is somehow cheapened in the less gory director's cut.

[Blade Runner]

Somebody may not have seen it.

:eek: Not seen Bladerunner! :eek:

:D ;)

[thespook]

can anyone recommend a "definitive" version of this film to own? or should I wait for the aforementioned SE :D

[Gromit]

Originally posted by Ron Hill
Sorry Gromit. Forgot myself there!

No probs m8. One of my all time favourite films this :)

I really, really want a good release of this disc.

[Gromit]

Originally posted by BLADERUNNER


:eek: Not seen Bladerunner! :eek:

:D ;)

:D :D :D

[Ben Martin]

Originally posted by Garry Cowell
Therefore when Gaff makes a paper unicorn at the end he's 'telling' Deckard that he's a replicant too.

indeed, and it's always seemed to me that maybe more specifically gaff's knowledge of the unicorn dream is because it is his dream. think about it - we know that rachel was given the memories of tyrell's niece, which would explain her innocent childlike attitude, and her father/daughter-like relationship with tyrell. now, if you wanted the best blade runner you could get in deckard, you'd want to give him the memories and experiences of someone with a similiar life .... namely gaff.

gaff is no longer on full active duty due to some injury picked up in the past, but he appears thoughout the film as a mentor and watcher for deckard. maybe the reason he knows so much about the way deckard is thinking/dreaming is because they share memories?

[Captain Scarlet]

Originally posted by Ben Martin
Originally posted by Garry Cowell
Therefore when Gaff makes a paper unicorn at the end he's 'telling' Deckard that he's a replicant too.

indeed, and it's always seemed to me that maybe more specifically gaff's knowledge of the unicorn dream is because it is his dream. think about it - we know that rachel was given the memories of tyrell's niece, which would explain her innocent childlike attitude, and her father/daughter-like relationship with tyrell. now, if you wanted the best blade runner you could get in deckard, you'd want to give him the memories and experiences of someone with a similiar life .... namely gaff.

gaff is no longer on full active duty due to some injury picked up in the past, but he appears thoughout the film as a mentor and watcher for deckard. maybe the reason he knows so much about the way deckard is thinking/dreaming is because they share memories?

thanx ben, never thought of that b4 but it does make a lot of sense

[Dan Druff]

When Harrison Ford was making the movie, as far as he was concerned Deckard is human. He said 'You have got to give the audience somebody to root for'. According to Philip K. Dick Deckard is without a doubt human. He is a flawed human. Any true Blade Runner fan knows he is human. On the Blade Zone site, full of Blade Runner fanatics like me who have seen the movie dozens of times 7 out of 10 believe he is human. The beauty of it is, you can make up your own mind about it, choose whatever scenario you please. In my book Deckard is a flawed gumshoe, a human detective, a replicant killer. Thats what makes it so compelling, not some half-arsed 'idea' of a semi-twist to please bandwagon jumpers who have only seen the Directors cut. Don't get me wrong, I hated the original ending, but the new one does not prove that Deckard is a replicant. What other theory could there be? Rachels memories. Deckard knew 'em, Gaff knew 'em (as stated already above).
Ridley may be pandering to the popular theory in The Edge of Blade Runner, he is the director of an awesome masterpiece, but though the world is his creation, the seed of all the ideas are rooted in Philip K. Dicks Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep. You may post whatever arguments in favour of Deckard being a replicant, glowing eyes (lighting), Ridleys comments, unicorn dreams..but nothing will sway me or my fellow Blade Runners from our feelings on this particular subject.

[EdgeOfVictory]

Is there definitely a special edition coming out? I've been holding out on buying the DVD (due to the fact that it's an appalling disc) for fear of a special edition being released. I've never seen the film though

[Dan Druff]

Originally posted by EdgeOfVictory

Is there definitely a special edition coming out? I've been holding out on buying the DVD (due to the fact that it's an appalling disc) for fear of a special edition being released. I've never seen the film though

Yes to coincide with the movies 20th anniversay of the cinema release, next year there is definitely going to be a Special Edition. It'll have a commentary from Ridley Scott as he has recorded it already.

It should have remastered 5.1 sound and picture of course..the rest is wishful thinking..

Both versions of the movie, perhaps a new cut altogether as the Directors Cut is a studio compromise. The visible wires taken out, some dubbing fixed, Roy Batty's first scene in the telephone booth fixed (a reversed moment from when he's on the bed beside Tyrell near the end of the movie, looks very out of place), some flabs regarding incept dates fixed, the documentary 'The Edge of Blade Runner' and loads of deleted scenes including Holden in the hospital etc. Perhaps a commentary from Rutger, Daryl, Olmos, Syd Mead, Hampton Fancher, David Snyder, Douglas Trumbull and Paul M . Sammon, author of Future Noir - The Making of Blade Runner (doubt if Harrison would get involved as he dislikes the movie).

Heres a link to same topic in Blade Zone (http://www.bladezone.com/forum/viewtopic.php?topic=119&forum=1&6)

[Gozer]

Originally posted by EdgeOfVictory
Is there definitely a special edition coming out? I've been holding out on buying the DVD (due to the fact that it's an appalling disc) for fear of a special edition being released. I've never seen the film though

The disc isn't that bad. No extras, but at least the picture is anamorphic. For £8 you might as well get it to tide you over until the SE comes out, thats what I did. Love this movie too much to be without a copy.