PDA

View Full Version : PES5 (PC) First Impressions + PES6 Discussion


Pages : [1] 2 3 4 5 6 7

LouBarlow
25-10-2005, 23:23
I'm not sure how to break it to you guys, but, I think Konami have screwed up a little here.

I have been playing the 2nd demo compulsively for the last 2 weeks, and to me, the final game plays nothing like it, which is a shame as I thought it was nigh on perfect.

On initial impressions, the final game seems slower and less responsive than the demo, but I'm willing to give it a chance...scarily wary at the moment though....

LouBarlow
25-10-2005, 23:36
Having investigated further, it doesn't seem to be as non-responsive as I first thought, but the 'turning arc' seems more akin to the 1st demo i.e. not as toight.

The game seems easier too - I just won my first 5* game 3-0, whereas the demo games were more contested...hmmmmm.

Ono
25-10-2005, 23:38
So, is a CD-Key needed?

LouBarlow
25-10-2005, 23:41
Yes.

Ono
25-10-2005, 23:46
Online options? 2 vs 2 etc??

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 00:00
I'm not going online for the moment mate.

To me, this is Winning Eleven 9 in high resolution - it does not play anything like the demo's...

john316
26-10-2005, 00:05
Hence why I avoided the demo for long sessions - just played a bit of it and was waiting on the final version and then I can't be disappointed :D

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 00:07
It's still fantastic, don't get me wrong - can't wait to get it online, then we will know for sure just how it shapes up :D

unrealnils
26-10-2005, 00:29
You got the german copy then ?

or one of those wink wink.................

damell
26-10-2005, 01:38
Hmm, sounds like they went with the DEMO 1 style. At least PESFan will be pleased, they couldn't stop crying at how Konami had "turned the game back into PES4" by upping the speed a little in DEMO 2 :nuts:

Will give it a whirl.

damell
26-10-2005, 02:30
What the **** have they done? :mad:
















They've got the sun *spit* plastered all over the sponser boards!

Not sure what you mean Lou. :D If anything I'd say the controls are even tighter than the demo version. It just seems "lighter" and with it, as you say, a bit easier. Steam rollered Arsenal 4-0 and 3-1 with Real Madrid on 3 stars, whereas on the demo I was lucky to grind out a 2-1 win.

I'm not sure if it's with having Raul upfront, but the movement seems a lot better. I kept possession a lot easier than I ever did in the demo.

All in all, first impressions are it's outstanding. Didn't think I could be anymore impressed than I have been with the demo, but it continues to surprise. Also if you look at the online tab in the settings.exe, there's a setting for UPNP enabled which is apparently what was causing all the router issues with PES4.

Great stuff! :clap:

Ono
26-10-2005, 06:53
I've only ever played the Demo 1 (apart from the PS2 version).

Looks like they have dumbed it down slightly then? Shame.

john316
26-10-2005, 07:02
All in all, first impressions are it's outstanding. Didn't think I could be anymore impressed than I have been with the demo, but it continues to surprise. Also if you look at the online tab in the settings.exe, there's a setting for UPNP enabled which is apparently what was causing all the router issues with PES4.

Great stuff! :clap:

Cool :thumbs:

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 07:22
I got up early to have a few world cups to make sure :lol: :dork:

Ono
26-10-2005, 07:59
Ah man!

It looks like the online play on PC is going down the more traditional style of other online games ie. you need to login to the Konami servers with a username and password.

If I don't get the game early enough some git may swipe my online name :cry:


Hopefully you can have more than one identity and/or be able to change the game name above your head.

Also talk on other forums of NO DIRECT IP? Konami's servers better not play up :suspect: Ever. :|



T&C's:

http://www.konami-pes5.com/index.php

Art Vanderlay
26-10-2005, 08:14
My main worry about the new online system is that it may not allow patched (eg Wolf patch) users to use it. Although now the kit editor is part of the game itself, at least getting the kits correct should not affect it, as it will be part of the save file.

Can't wait for Friday. I played my last PES4 game last night 'PES5-style' after playing the demo so much. I kept shooting from long range and passing little triangles, it was great fun

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 08:16
The more I play the more I'm convinced this is a port of Winning Eleven 9 - there are animations not in the demo's that were in WE9, and it just *feels* like it to me...not that that's a bad thing, but I thought Demo2 was perfect.

It is far, far too easy though - on 5 stars and I'm playing some teams and they don't even have a single shot in the whole game...hmmmm

damell
26-10-2005, 08:34
The more I play the more I'm convinced this is a port of Winning Eleven 9 - there are animations not in the demo's that were in WE9, and it just *feels* like it to me...not that that's a bad thing, but I thought Demo2 was perfect.

It is far, far too easy though - on 5 stars and I'm playing some teams and they don't even have a single shot in the whole game...hmmmm

I haven't played WE9 so I can't compare it to that, but it doesn't feel any different to Demo 2 to me, apart from the tighter controls, which is a great thing IMO. Played 4 games now and it is definitely easier, but I wouldn't say it was dumbed down.

It's still hard to dribble, flighted through balls work once in a blue moon and some passes/first touches still go astray.

Cockeye
26-10-2005, 08:41
I take it the reason that you guys can't go online is the obvious one?

john316
26-10-2005, 09:23
In stock now at Play (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums) - should see preorders start shipping sometime today for Friday delivery I reckon :D

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 09:28
Mines changed to 'order placed' :clap:

dazkelly
26-10-2005, 09:55
Mine's at 'Processing', so looking good for a Friday delivery!!! :thumbs:

MarcusUK
26-10-2005, 10:20
Mine's at 'Processing', so looking good for a Friday delivery!!! :thumbs:

Ditto, staus has changed since first thing this morning when I checked. Should hopefully be shipped this afternoon :thumbs:

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 10:25
Double ditto :)

john316
26-10-2005, 10:26
Triple di.....whoops, nearly entered Super :dork: mode then

welshmatt
26-10-2005, 10:57
Is this (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http%3A//www.play.com/play247.asp%3Fpa%3Dstts5%26page%3Dtitle%26r%3DPC%26title%3D114167) the best adapter to get to play using a PS2 pad?

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 10:57
Packing now!!!!111 :nuts:

On a side-note I just had a team have a shot against me - congratulations to Spain :thumbs:

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 10:58
Is this (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http%3A//www.play.com/play247.asp%3Fpa%3Dstts5%26page%3Dtitle%26r%3DPC%26title%3D114167) the best adapter to get to play using a PS2 pad?

Well mine has been fine, but some people here have had problems I think.

damell recommends the one from Game I believe...

dazkelly
26-10-2005, 11:03
Packing now!!!!111 :nuts:

On a side-note I just had a team have a shot against me - congratulations to Spain :thumbs:

Mine 2 - what are the chances of dispatch today?!!! Always the optimist me (except when having to face playing as Valencia, but I've made my feelings known on that score!!!!)

chet-lee
26-10-2005, 11:51
Is this (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums^QS^DURL=http%3A//www.play.com/play247.asp%3Fpa%3Dstts5%26page%3Dtitle%26r%3DPC%26title%3D114167) the best adapter to get to play using a PS2 pad?

I've got the one from Play.com and I've never had any problems, obviously except when I loose :)

Matt.Wild
26-10-2005, 12:21
Now processing :clap:

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 12:23
mine was packing now is back to processing again :suspect:

damell
26-10-2005, 12:54
Well mine has been fine, but some people here have had problems I think.

damell recommends the one from Game I believe...

Certainly do. Depends if you're willing to pay the extra.

Matt.Wild
26-10-2005, 12:56
Certainly do. Depends if you're willing to pay the extra.

So, what kinda probs did you have with the play.com one (I have the play one and have £15 GC needing spending :D)? If its better and there is a reason I may go fot it :thumbs:

damell
26-10-2005, 13:36
So, what kinda probs did you have with the play.com one (I have the play one and have £15 GC needing spending :D)? If its better and there is a reason I may go fot it :thumbs:

I had a few problems with both PES4 and PES5 demo using the play.com adapter. Sometimes I'd press square and it wouldn't respond for example and generally it just felt a little unresponsive.

I've now played the PES5 demo to death with the GAME adapter and haven't had a single issue with it. It feels just as responsive as the PS2 version. I wouldn't mind someone trying it to make sure I'm not imagining it, but if you're happy with your current adapter, I don't want to go wasting your money.

ascender
26-10-2005, 13:44
My Play order has also gone to "processing". Unfortunately that means I probably won't get it til Saturday :-(

Ben [Little Funk]
26-10-2005, 13:52
Processing - Looks like Saturday for me too, unless its sent tonight

kipp
26-10-2005, 14:02
Well they have taken the money out of my bank account !

So they have my money i want my game ! Now ! :)

Kipp :thumbs:

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 14:11
People on other forums saying they've already received their copies from Play! :suspect:

Have to say, I'll be mightily ****** if I don't get it friday as I ordered it about an hour after it was added to their site :lol:

Always worrying when an order goes from 'packing' back to 'processing' I think...

john316
26-10-2005, 14:14
It'll get sent out today for sure - bet it turns to shipped by 6pm. But knowing the Royal Mail, they'll probably balls it up somewhere meaning it gets delayed on route to me till Saturday or...................MONDAY! :mad:

stylez
26-10-2005, 14:20
Play have shipped mine apparently! :D

brendonw
26-10-2005, 14:21
If i dont get for the weekend I wont be happy :(

Just spoke to them on the phone and they told me between tomorrow and next wednesday :mad:

stormywhether
26-10-2005, 14:21
Yay, mine's now shown as Posted.

Friday mereckons. Shame I'm not actually HERE on Friday but it sure as hell makes my conference in Prague more bearable next weekend!

Yay to Play!(.com)

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 14:31
Yay it's away and now in the capable hands of RM :thumbs:

belly
26-10-2005, 14:46
oooooooh mine shows as posted now aswell.

hope it arrives on friday, i have had it shipped to work and i won't be here saturday!

Ben [Little Funk]
26-10-2005, 14:58
Pro Evolution Soccer 5 (PC)

£17.99

Posted on 26/10/2005


:clap: :clap: :clap:

If Royal mail do their job properly, should be here by Friday :D

daz_75
26-10-2005, 15:06
Bloody hell, im thinking of changing my mind and getting this now

Is it really much different to 4?

stormywhether
26-10-2005, 15:14
Bloody hell, im thinking of changing my mind and getting this now

Is it really much different to 4?
http://static.flickr.com/32/56288051_1eacc11d99_m.jpg http://static.flickr.com/33/56288052_1a13ad2ed3_m.jpg

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 15:30
:lol:

I've noticed they've tweaked the 'overlap' as well - you have to be far more quick with the button otherwise it just changes the player you are controlling and makes you look silly

Tequila
26-10-2005, 15:38
Mine's been posted aswell ! :clap:

MarcusUK
26-10-2005, 16:07
Ah man!

It looks like the online play on PC is going down the more traditional style of other online games ie. you need to login to the Konami servers with a username and password.

If I don't get the game early enough some git may swipe my online name :cry:


Hopefully you can have more than one identity and/or be able to change the game name above your head.

Also talk on other forums of NO DIRECT IP? Konami's servers better not play up :suspect: Ever. :|



T&C's:

http://www.konami-pes5.com/index.php

Might be ok and use your pesrankings id and password?

brendonw
26-10-2005, 16:29
Mine's been posted aswell ! :clap:

Not fair, no chance of stealing a lead on the master :lol:

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 16:31
Ahhh he might not be the master of the new game though ;)

It's a level playing field now :D

Art Vanderlay
26-10-2005, 16:32
My copy of Rome was posted at 6pm last night. So if that arrived today or arrives tomorrow, I will know that PES should be here on Friday.

Or maybe even tomorrow :)

Should be some very amusing games while we all get to grips with the new PES

ascender
26-10-2005, 16:45
Yip, PES5 has gone to shipped here too. Phew.

brendonw
26-10-2005, 16:47
Ahhh he might not be the master of the new game though ;)

It's a level playing field now :D

I'll remind you in a few weeks time :lol:

damell
26-10-2005, 17:21
I'm teaming up with FCH, Spark, etc. to make a megapatch ASAP.

Expect something within the first couple of weeks of release.


Hell Yeeeee.

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 17:26
Yes the kits are worryingly drab at the moment and Czech have some bloke called 'Chemo' in goal :lol:

ascender
26-10-2005, 18:05
PESFAN.COM did an excellent patch for the PS2 and XBOX vesions of PES4, the PC version is being worked on at the moment. And looks like The Wofl is doing one too, so its all good for us.

How easy/difficult is it to produce new stadiums for PES? Always thought if a group of people went and worked on one stadium each you could soon come up with quite a collection.

Ono
26-10-2005, 18:37
My order from CD-Wow.com (50p off!) (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://www.cd-wow.com/index.php^QS^affid=15561) hasn't shipped yet :cry: :cry: :cry:

















But my other order from Play.com (http://www.thedvdforums.com/jump.php?url=http://playcom.at/thedvdforums) has :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 18:46
Still liking the demo more *grumble grumble* :D

Matt.Wild
26-10-2005, 18:49
Status
Posted on 26/10/2005

:clap: :clap:

SOUNDSTYLE
26-10-2005, 18:50
Play: Your order has been posted (26/10/2005)

:thumbs:

I'll be happy to receive it on release day or Saturday though.

john316
26-10-2005, 18:52
Still liking the demo more *grumble grumble* :D

You're just acting like a woman or Bigjonny now :oh-hum: :D

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 19:26
You're just acting like a woman or Bigjonny now :oh-hum: :D

How dare you! Saying I'm like BigJonny!! :mad: :mad:




:p





Honestly though mate, I am a little disappointed.

1) The demo plays better - simple as that: it is faster, the controls are more responsive, the turning circle is more realistic - players make more life-like runs off the ball, and the opposition defends properly, whereas in the final game it seems to defend with 2 sweepers who are always back :thinking:

2) The animation is better on the demo - I **** you not! When Beckham runs in the demo, it looks like Beckham - in the finished game, the players all tend to run in the same way, and it looks bizarre, especially when dribbling with the ball - it's far from fluid, and it looks like the start of the step-over move in a constant loop.

3) The goalkeepers are pants in the final game, from their behaviour, to (again) their animation, with the same style of dive being used over and over again - the demo had far more variation, and the keepers looked more realistic because of it.

4) The final game is too easy - the demo was tough on 5 stars, whereas, because the computer opposition on the final game, defend so deep, it's like a training session at times - attackers vs defenders.

5) The referees are too picky in the final game - now this could be because there are different refs, and Im guessing they act differently accordingly, but in the demo I could get away with a handful of fouls a game, whereas the final game is stop-start to the point of annoyance, and this is without holding down the tackle button all the time - Ono's matches will easily get into treble figures in terms of fouls :lol:

6) Graphical touches - now this one I'm not sure on, but I swear the player models, i.e. the faces and what-not, looked far better in the demo - also the netting on the goals was beautifully rendered on the demo - here it looks like a slightly improved PS2 version.

I know a lot of the above points border on the :dork: but I can honestly say, hand on heart, that the game does not play as well as the demo. All the above points point to it being a total port of WE9 PS2, as it also had the same flaws - still a great game, but I am a little gutted after the beauty that was demo #2 :(

Still damell doesn't notice it, and even prefers the final game, so it could just come down to personal taste :thumbs:

Matt.Wild
26-10-2005, 19:51
Why would they downgrade it tho? :?:

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 19:57
My guess is the demo was an earlier version than WE9, as it has last seasons kits on it...

Matt.Wild
26-10-2005, 19:58
My guess is the demo was an earlier version than WE9, as it has last seasons kits on it...

I see! :)

internetuser
26-10-2005, 19:59
whats good gfx card for this i.e cheap currently have 2 pcs one with a GForce FX5200 in and another with a ati radion 9000 pro ?

Should I try them or buy a cheap one ?

internetuser
26-10-2005, 20:00
mate just told me, no Owen or any of the other new players are in the PC one for newcastle

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 20:04
Owen's not at Real Madrid either

loates123
26-10-2005, 20:10
not played it yet, but who cares i am sure it wont be long b4 a update? anyone?

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 20:24
There's one due on friday loates

damell
26-10-2005, 20:25
How dare you! Saying I'm like BigJonny!! :mad: :mad:




:p





Honestly though mate, I am a little disappointed.

1) The demo plays better - simple as that: it is faster, the controls are more responsive, the turning circle is more realistic - players make more life-like runs off the ball, and the opposition defends properly, whereas in the final game it seems to defend with 2 sweepers who are always back :thinking:

2) The animation is better on the demo - I **** you not! When Beckham runs in the demo, it looks like Beckham - in the finished game, the players all tend to run in the same way, and it looks bizarre, especially when dribbling with the ball - it's far from fluid, and it looks like the start of the step-over move in a constant loop.

3) The goalkeepers are pants in the final game, from their behaviour, to (again) their animation, with the same style of dive being used over and over again - the demo had far more variation, and the keepers looked more realistic because of it.

4) The final game is too easy - the demo was tough on 5 stars, whereas, because the computer opposition on the final game, defend so deep, it's like a training session at times - attackers vs defenders.

5) The referees are too picky in the final game - now this could be because there are different refs, and Im guessing they act differently accordingly, but in the demo I could get away with a handful of fouls a game, whereas the final game is stop-start to the point of annoyance, and this is without holding down the tackle button all the time - Ono's matches will easily get into treble figures in terms of fouls :lol:

6) Graphical touches - now this one I'm not sure on, but I swear the player models, i.e. the faces and what-not, looked far better in the demo - also the netting on the goals was beautifully rendered on the demo - here it looks like a slightly improved PS2 version.

I know a lot of the above points border on the :dork: but I can honestly say, hand on heart, that the game does not play as well as the demo. All the above points point to it being a total port of WE9 PS2, as it also had the same flaws - still a great game, but I am a little gutted after the beauty that was demo #2 :(

Still damell doesn't notice it, and even prefers the final game, so it could just come down to personal taste :thumbs:

So so strange mate. It honestly sounds like you're playing a different game. :nuts: It's definitely easier for some strange reason, but other than that it plays exactly like the demo.

I'd love to see some in game footage of yours if you can record it???

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 20:28
I've checked and it's not Fifa :nuts: :lol:

It's probably more subtle than I've made it sound, in fairness, but I've been playing for 2 weeks straight now Real Madrid Vs Valencia, and recreating it with the final game proves difficult.

unrealnils
26-10-2005, 20:45
so how much is this gonna be at game tomorrow ?? play are still processing :(

My x files set is posted which makes me feel better :D

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 20:52
its 30 squid at game i think mate :(

unrealnils
26-10-2005, 21:02
**** that **** :lol:

will just wait till play send theres even if its next monday............

Im sure i will find some other poor sole playing pes4 online :D

Ben [Little Funk]
26-10-2005, 21:08
You know how they are releasing an update on Friday, will this have the team names and player names corrected, as well as hopefully all the transfers theyve missed?

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 21:09
I don't think they are creating new players so no idea about Owen, but they claim it will correct kits, player names, team names, transfers etc

internetuser
26-10-2005, 22:02
']You know how they are releasing an update on Friday, will this have the team names and player names corrected, as well as hopefully all the transfers theyve missed?

Is this an offical patch or a 3rd party update ?

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 22:09
No it's a 3rd party update of the option file.

Cockeye
26-10-2005, 22:36
Can I just remind everyone that if you know of any patch or update - be it third party or official can they please email me the link or add it thereself to the PES links thread?

Should hotlink, but I can't be arsed! :)

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 22:38
As soon as it's released (friday I think) I'll post it up, as it's going to be the first crucial download :thumbs:

Cockeye
26-10-2005, 22:45
nice mate! Thanks!

unrealnils
26-10-2005, 23:05
pes fan update will be good just hope one comes out soon like the the old wolf patch ie hi res stuff plus player stats updated to real life :D

bigjonnyauk
26-10-2005, 23:09
well 3 things

how dare you call me a grumpy old so and so now i have matured now and leave the kiddy stuff to ******* and hornsteve

wheres the cheapest place in town to buy this i didnt order from play so have told the wife she is going to have to go without this weekend and just eat bread as im buying pro evo


also we seem demo 1 and demo 2 which imo were very different


lets wait till the actual real game drops through the letterbox before judging


also ill be on a all day and nighter friday for any guys that wanna play got some wife beater in ready so just hope i can get this in town ok

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 23:21
BJUK we are playing the actual game, but it was harsh for anyone to call you grumpy I think...not many cheap places on the highstreet, though you can get it for 20 notes if you trade in 4 at Game

bigjonnyauk
26-10-2005, 23:24
so yours has already come from play then lou

i might be able to source one from the shops tomorrow then

woolies have it for 26.99 and release date as tomorrow so might pop in

only reason i said wait for actual game lou is there were rumours of a dodgey version floating round with no online play and apperentley not the final release either just like the demo

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 23:29
I guess we will know for sure on Friday :D

john316
26-10-2005, 23:54
Well, just had a few games finally on it - played 3 games with 2 wins and a loss. Best win was with mighty Peleponnisos of course :D

Keepers though are a worry - spilling easy shots all over the place and pretty much being totally useless :suspect:

And the amount of injury time being generated is just insane - I had 8 mins in total (4 in each half) for a just a normal number of fouls! :nuts:

But the rest is just majestic :D

LouBarlow
26-10-2005, 23:58
Can't wait for online action I have to say :D

Ono
27-10-2005, 07:58
I'm wondering if PES 5 will finally allow me to take my router out of the DMZ.

Hope so.

LouBarlow
27-10-2005, 08:26
Mine didn't miraculously arrive today :cry:

Hopefully tomorrow :D

damell
27-10-2005, 08:27
It better do, I'm on my 3rd and final warning with my ISP for spreading viruses because of having DMZ enabled. :nuts: Can't say I've seen any bad keeping in all my games.

I'm on 5 star now, it's tougher but the CPU don't create enough chances for my liking. Still no doubt Master League will still be tough and other than that I'll only be playing online so it should be good.

Art Vanderlay
27-10-2005, 08:36
Mine didn't miraculously arrive today :cry:

Hopefully tomorrow :D

My copy of Rome:TW which was shipped at 6pm on Tuesday has just arrived to my work address.

So it is looking good for the copies of PES to arrive on time tomorrow.

Like you I was hoping it might come today, but I won't know until I get home from work tonight, as PES is being shipped to home just in case it slipped to Saturday.

Ben [Little Funk]
27-10-2005, 08:51
My copy of Friends Series 8 has just arrived after being posted on Tuesday - so with PES5 being posted yesterday, things are looking good :)

Cockeye
27-10-2005, 09:11
well 3 things

how dare you call me a grumpy old so and so now i have matured now and leave the kiddy stuff to ******* and hornsteve

wheres the cheapest place in town to buy this i didnt order from play so have told the wife she is going to have to go without this weekend and just eat bread as im buying pro evo


also we seem demo 1 and demo 2 which imo were very different


lets wait till the actual real game drops through the letterbox before judging


also ill be on a all day and nighter friday for any guys that wanna play got some wife beater in ready so just hope i can get this in town ok




OI!

I'm not immature, so............................




























Nah nah nah nah nah!

Ya Boo sucks to you! :razz:

welshmatt
27-10-2005, 09:29
can someone give me the lowdown on the online play for the PC version. As i've said in other threads I just cannot seem to get a decent game using the PS2/Xbox online. Maybe im expecting it to run exactly like it would if I was playing offline, but its certainly not anything like that.

Im not sure if its my router/ethernet cable and its pretty frustrating. Ive got the PC game on its way as well and i gather from previous posts its a much smoother online game than the xbox (well PES4 was so hopefully this will be the same for PES5).

Is it easy to setup? And what on earth is this DMZ!?

Art Vanderlay
27-10-2005, 09:53
I'm sure someone will give you the full lowdown once the game arrives.

In PES4, it was direct IP connection. One user was the host, the other the client. The Host has a perfect experience, although some who play single player a lot insist it has a slightly different feel online. The client experience would vary depending on how good both your connections are, but it was essential for both users to turn off all downloads, and any other users connected trhough the same router. Even at best, a client would be disadvataged, hence it was considered playing 'Away'. Dribbling is more difficult, as were free kicks. You had to alter your style slightly for 'away' games. After a few seasons, 95%+ of players had reached a point where clienting was acceptable with their connection.

At worst, a client will have players with jerky movement, where they will suddenly skip 10 yard forward, or a goal will go in without you knowing about it. This normally means someone has a fundamental problem. Or they have turned on their downloads because they are hosting and losing :nono: - that never happens here, but is rife on PESOnline, and I expect with the rankings on the new PES. If you stick to playing against us lot you will be fine

A DMZ is a demiliatarized zone on a router. If you were unable to get port forwarding to work, then it was necessary to put your PC into the DMZ when playing as a host. This means that it is unprotected from the outside world, although you can still run a software firewall in most cases.

Whatever happens, it will not be the same as the offline game. You have to accept that it won't be quite as 'instant' as playing a mate in the same room. Quite what is an acceptable difference varies from person to person. I rarely play it offline, so it makes no odds to me

welshmatt
27-10-2005, 10:05
Thanks for that Art

bigjonnyauk
27-10-2005, 15:16
are you guys sure this is released tomorrow i went in game gamestation and mvc and woolies all said the same thing and it wasnt on display either

said yeah it comes out tomorrow but not one of them have had a delivery yet

Cockeye
27-10-2005, 15:23
It's cause Konami are refusing to deliver after the console versions were released earlier.

read the High Street availability thread for more details.

bigjonnyauk
27-10-2005, 15:32
hey guys i am prosuming you need a cdkey and it also gives you a password to enter so you can get on servers

can you create more than one usename though as i dont want babyjonny playing on my name if it records the stats

Bolch
27-10-2005, 15:41
can you create more than one usename though as i dont want babyjonny playing on my name if it records the stats

There's only 1 set of stats that matter :D

damell
27-10-2005, 15:49
Multiple profiles bigjonny. :)

ascender
27-10-2005, 16:07
Where are the fans? No excuse for their absence on the PC version surely??

bigjonnyauk
27-10-2005, 16:21
actually bolch im goona also try and have a go at the world rankings thing konami are setting up in december


also will konami use the server to update players you think and will patches still work

john316
27-10-2005, 23:17
Where are the fans? No excuse for their absence on the PC version surely??

Pretty poor - surely that would have been an easy thing for Konami to correct in the PC version as it was only removed to fix slowdown on the PS2 :brickwall

Also noticed that 'The Sun' (spit) adverts are even displayed at Anfield :nuts:

Not quite seeing that happening in real life Konami! :D

Had a cracking game against Juve before against 5 star CPU - got slapped down 3-0 with a stunning Del Piero direck FK, an insane chip from ASD again and then another quality finish from Zlatan in injury time. Not used to the CPU scoring spectacular strikes so its really good to see them in PES 5 :thumbs:

LouBarlow
27-10-2005, 23:21
I find the cpu strangely Arsenal-like, in that they won't take a shot until they have managed 64 passes and gotten inside my 6 yard line...though I am only playing International cups at the moment, so haven't really dealt with the quality of Juve :D

john316
27-10-2005, 23:22
I find the cpu strangely Arsenal-like, in that they won't take a shot until they have managed 64 passes and gotten inside my 6 yard line...though I am only playing International cups at the moment, so haven't really dealt with the quality of Juve :D

I noticed a massive difference when playing against Juve then playing against Boro - they couldn't even manage an attempt on goal against me and I had the cigars out in defence at times :D

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 08:25
It's heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere! :D

Doesn't come sealed from Play Nils btw...

brendonw
28-10-2005, 08:40
It's heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere! :D

Doesn't come sealed from Play Nils btw...

:razz:

:cry:

:lol:

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 08:54
I don't want to sound like a queer or nothing, but how the hell do you get online? :lol:

It seems to want a password? Huh? Where? Who? How? :cry:

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 08:59
i just got mine
says you have to put your cd key on

to get online

lou if ya want in a couple of hours well get agame on

no moaning honest lol

damell
28-10-2005, 09:01
Don't drag this out Lou, we're relying on you. From the PS2 version, you have to create an account to play online.

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 09:08
lol yeah just read instructions did anyone see the disclaimer near the back

it reads 30 days notice notice will be given when the the konami server finishes therfore after this time there will be no network play

Bolch
28-10-2005, 09:12
I don't want to sound like a queer or nothing

I think Depeche Mode are a pretty sweet band

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 09:24
yeah done it all set up online and in the chat room

you have to click settings on the start up screen where you install the game

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 09:24
I think Depeche Mode are a pretty sweet band

:lol:

Just played my first online game - glorious, glorious stuff :clap:

Don't know if this is the general standard, as the guy was in France, but the game just rocks hard online - I didn't have any button lag, and while it doesn't *quite* feel as smooth as offline, it was just as responsive...for me anyway.

I'm on a 100% streak - 1 played, 1 won, 1 scored, 0 conceeded.

:luv:

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 09:32
why ya hiding in the french rooms lol i was in the uk

unrealnils
28-10-2005, 09:33
whats the password ?

i keep getting an error occured during verification when i enter a pasword i picked so it must be a specific one ??

brendonw
28-10-2005, 09:43
:lol:

Just played my first online game - glorious, glorious stuff :clap:

Don't know if this is the general standard, as the guy was in France, but the game just rocks hard online - I didn't have any button lag, and while it doesn't *quite* feel as smooth as offline, it was just as responsive...for me anyway.

I'm on a 100% streak - 1 played, 1 won, 1 scored, 0 conceeded.

:luv:

you are still queer!

:lol:

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 09:48
The PC version doesn't seem to change host and client at half-time by the way, so 2 legged league games seem best still.

2 for 2 now - on a roll :lol:

kipp
28-10-2005, 09:56
Well i have just played 1 game !

Great stuff for 45 minutes 1-0 up good game Smooth has a babys bum

Then ! Some of the worst lag i have ever had in any game !
Totally unplayable :( I played out the game coz i dont like to quit but this was horrible !

I really dont know what happened !
Will try again later against peeps fromhere and see what the crack is !


Kipp

damell
28-10-2005, 10:07
Anyone had any router issues then, I assume most will be still setup for PES4?

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 10:10
Well my run didn't last long - just beaten by a cocky German :| :D

I now have no idea if it changes client and host duties after what kipp has said it seems likely, but a game I played before had some jerkiness for both halves, so I presumed it was 2 halfs of clienting :shrug:

Why are all the goal nets blue btw? :lol:

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 10:14
where can you find the indicator that tells you the connection if it is good or not

damell
28-10-2005, 10:34
where can you find the indicator that tells you the connection if it is good or not

On the PS2 version, it's next to the players name when they're hosting a match. Takes a while to show the indicator though.

john316
28-10-2005, 10:36
Still no sign of my postie yet :(

belly
28-10-2005, 10:47
it has just arrived at work.

i can feel the flu coming on, i really am not very well.

think i will have to go home!!!!!!

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 10:49
:lol: @ belly

Is this a normal time for your postie john? :eek:

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 10:49
be warned.

When registering online, your CD code must be in Caps - as I've just discovered. Use lower case and it will reject the code.

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 10:50
mmmm well first thoughts on this

dosent seem as fluid like lou said players turn strange and online is not great yet a few things that i hope they fix


you cant type much in chat

the music is like an old 70s pron film

and how the hell do u challenge someone to a game theres no indicators to say if they have set up a romm and are waiting

john316
28-10-2005, 10:51
Is this a normal time for your postie john? :eek:

He's usually here by about 11.00 at the latest - he's just twisting my mind now. Unless he's already been and there was no post? :cry:

Ben [Little Funk]
28-10-2005, 11:09
Come on Mr Postie..... im getting anxious now :(

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 11:12
I think this is awesome online so I'll have to disagree with you bigjonny.

2 wins 2 losses now - 2 robberies where one break has screwed me over each time :cry: :D

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 11:47
Sweet Jesus!

Well, first impressions.

It's nothing like the demo for a start - nothing at all.

Graphically it's a step back from the demo (far more like PES4), and the crowd is non-existant. BUT I can run in in full screen at 1280x1024 so this is a bonus. And it does look rather nice on my 42 inch plasma.

I have only played online - two games with Hornsteve9Jr.

And so enjoyable. I've had some good games on PES4 but nothing as good as these. It's amazing how different it is, but how subtle those differences are.

This suits my game much more, as Hornsteve 9Jr was kind enough to say.

We played one game Liverpool v. Liverpool and it was 0-0. But both of us hit the woodwork several times.

Second game we played Chelsea (him) v. Barcelona (me). He scored a penalty to go one up, and I scored a 30 yard screamer (never done THAT in PES4) to go level. he pulled two ahead with two sublime goals (including a beauty from outside the area curled in by Crespo), and then I pulled a beauty back, springing the offside and slotting one in off the post.

So 3-2 to him but the games were so enjoyable and so realistic.

referee seemed less finickity than in the demo version. he pulls up fouls - but no-one got booked in two games.

The animation is great, and the little tricks you can do are sublime.

A huge, massive :thumbs: from me!

And thanks HornsteveJr :thumbs:

Oh, and by the way. No lag for him, and just a tiny bit for me in the last half of the second game.

other than that - smooth as.

Ben [Little Funk]
28-10-2005, 11:50
Argh! Come on damn Postman :help:

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 11:55
oh lou dont get me wrong play is fine dont you think the players run a bit ghey though and when they turn they dont seem so smooth when doing so

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 12:05
Grrr can't seem to score at the moment - hitting posts keepers heads and everything - lost 4 on the trot now :lol:

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 12:30
great - fancy a game then? :lol

But seriously, gotta go offline for a bit now.

I have found (in relation to scoring) that Liverpool strikers can't hit a barn door at ten paces. Another chalk up for the realism factor.

Played bigjonny and had about 8 shots, not one on target!

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 12:37
For those who dont know, by the way, there will be official rankings and tournaments starting around Christmas.

You can register at pesrankings.com

But get in quick if you want to bag your username.

Bolch
28-10-2005, 12:37
Those of you who've played online, has it totally killed my site as competition or is there still room for Bolch to reign supreme?

Tequila
28-10-2005, 12:59
Just had my first game. Won 2-0 but the tool chose to play in the snow and quit in the 89th minuter ! But there was no lag! :clap:

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 13:02
bolch still gonna need your site as we can keep it a forum thing

we just need to add everyone to the ingame freonds list i think you can create a room of your own and lock it aswell


i say until its all sorted we just still post results as normal

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 13:08
yeah, friends list is good.

Does the online game track stats then? Can't see any option.

Still need your site IMO Bolch!

daz_75
28-10-2005, 13:11
Just saw this on a PS2 at the pub, didn't realise it was PES5 until it came up with the logo, looks no different :shrug:

damell
28-10-2005, 13:12
Got the game sitting here in my bag, itching to play. What do you mean it's a step back graphically, from the demo? Can't say I noticed, but then I haven't noticed a lot of differences people have mentioned. :nuts:

Bolch
28-10-2005, 13:13
bolch still gonna need your site as we can keep it a forum thing

The site is far from a forum thing mate, it's going to be pushing itslef as THE site ANYONE can create a league for ANY sport on.

Just wondering how well PES5 online handles leagues (ie can you make your own, or are you stuck in a giant pot pesonline style)

damell
28-10-2005, 13:15
When pesrankings.com is officially opened this christmas, it does promise mini leagues.

Bolch
28-10-2005, 13:17
Could've done without that :( But at least I've got a 2 month head start :nuts:

Ben [Little Funk]
28-10-2005, 13:29
Looks as if my postie has decided not to come today

Still, i guess it means i can get some college work done uninterrupted :cry:

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 13:35
Just had my first two games against mighty Mr T

a 2-2 and a 0-0 which I was kinda pleased with considering the run of losses I've had today :nuts: :lol:

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 13:35
is it me or have they changed the buttons slightly seems when you turn left or right now instead of that turn they use to do it now does a weird side drag i cant get use to that lol but tapping r1 i think does the normal turn
even though the game is slower i think u get far less time on the ball i couldnt get the space to fire off a long shot against ******* lol ah well keep plugging away

Matt.Wild
28-10-2005, 13:37
My copy has arrived. The postman is lucky, i'm not gonna break the postmans legs :lol:

Bolch
28-10-2005, 13:39
is it me or have they changed the buttons slightly seems when you turn left or right now

I noticed that on the demo. It's almost like they've dumbed down the moves/tricks so people who couldn't do them before can do them by accident now to make pretty goals :nuts:

Apparently mines not turned up :(

Matt.Wild
28-10-2005, 13:41
:lol:

Just played my first online game - glorious, glorious stuff :clap:

Don't know if this is the general standard, as the guy was in France, but the game just rocks hard online - I didn't have any button lag, and while it doesn't *quite* feel as smooth as offline, it was just as responsive...for me anyway.

I'm on a 100% streak - 1 played, 1 won, 1 scored, 0 conceeded.

:luv:

Gotta admit when playing the xbox version even when jerky and glitchy, the button response was much better than PES 4 and you could still pass well :thumbs:

Tequila
28-10-2005, 13:57
Just had my first two games against mighty Mr T

a 2-2 and a 0-0 which I was kinda pleased with considering the run of losses I've had today :nuts: :lol:

Good games Lou, I thought I should've won the first one though, must've hit the bar about 3 times! Nice Shot !

damell
28-10-2005, 14:04
I noticed that on the demo. It's almost like they've dumbed down the moves/tricks so people who couldn't do them before can do them by accident now to make pretty goals :nuts:

Apparently mines not turned up :(

It's not dumbed down, it just forces you to use the R2 dribble.

I was kinda hoping the release might have passed Tequila by. :nuts:

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 14:06
When you win on penalties, it only counts as a draw online! :(

Which means C0ckeye (me online) now has one win ad one draw even though i've won every game! :(

Must do housework now, or g/f will slit my balls! :(

brendonw
28-10-2005, 14:15
Those hoping for a 'lag' free game are going to be disappointed then........

Batton down the hatches lads ;)

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 14:27
Online lag is not a problem.....seems really smooth.

brendonw
28-10-2005, 14:36
I'll remind you of that..........

:D

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 14:41
:lol:

unrealnils
28-10-2005, 15:08
what is this password thing i cant get online is it something desingated or something we pick either way as when i try my own password it says en error occured during verirification :cry:

PLEASE HELP !

Tequila
28-10-2005, 15:11
you have to register. When you put the dvd in and it autoruns click user registration.

unrealnils
28-10-2005, 15:17
:notworthy @ Mr T

Ben [Little Funk]
28-10-2005, 15:20
I put my CD in to install, but it wont auto run. when i click on my computer and then onto the dvd drive, it just doesnt respond :cry: :cry:

Can anyone help me please?

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 15:30
Some good games with C0ckeye there - really enjoying these I must say, and only one quitter and I think I've been playing all day :nuts: My stats suck balls though :D

BTW, if I play any of yous and you think I'm fouling a lot - believe me it's not deliberate, I'm just trying to get used to it, so apologies in advance :lol:

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 15:30
Reply to Ben:

No, not directly.

But I have had a few problems with my PC verifying my disc. happened with PES4 as well.

Try taking the disc out and putting it back in again.

@Lou

Really enjoyable games you fouling "$£%&^%%£! :lol:

Didn't think you fouled anywhere near as much as me!

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 15:30
Give it a wipe - have you any virtual drives enabled? disable them and try again.

Ben [Little Funk]
28-10-2005, 15:32
Yeh ive tried that - it's just not seeing anything there :cry:

My DVD drive seems to be ok as when i put another game in it like FM2006 its sees it ok, and BF2 it brings up the autorun screen as this should.

But its just not doing anything :(

Thanks anyway :)

edit: will try that Lou, thanks.

HORNSTEVE9
28-10-2005, 15:33
']I put my CD in to install, but it wont auto run. when i click on my computer and then onto the dvd drive, it just doesnt respond :cry: :cry:

Can anyone help me please?
i had same problem. so i unistalled pes4 tried again and it worked. worth a try

Ben [Little Funk]
28-10-2005, 15:43
Lou: Thanks, i tried that again but still didnt work

Hornsteve: I never had PES4, but thanks anyway

:)


Im starting to get very annoyed/sad now :(

MarcusUK
28-10-2005, 15:55
Installed and registered, had a quick look in the lobby and saw some of you guys.
Just going for some food, will be about from 6 onwards if anyone fancies a game?
Just give me a shout on msn and say Hi :thumbs:
What to make sure my router is ok..

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 16:02
Only disappointment for me re online, is the lack of choice over stadiums - only one and the blue goal nets :dork:

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 16:08
Though it is possible that when you go up divisions you play at a different stadium

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 16:11
Booooo! :(

First online game against a non-forum player.

Three nill upi and cruising. ******* quits and I lose my stats.

Not impressed! :(

Watch out for robben16

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 16:12
It should still give you the win - did for me earlier

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 16:14
Also could we all post what names we are playing under, so as I can add you all to my friends list - ta :luv:

I'm LouBarlow - pleased to meet you.

moko7t8
28-10-2005, 16:23
I'll be MarkW when the game actually arrives. Or if it is't available - moko7t8

MarcusUK
28-10-2005, 16:28
I'm MarcusUK on there

ajw000
28-10-2005, 16:28
I'll be ajw000 when my new PC arrives monday :nuts:

Never played this online before so looking forward to it. It's going to be weird after the long nights me and my mates used tp have playing PE1/2/3/4 :D

Can't wait...

Tequila
28-10-2005, 16:29
I'm Tequila :D

ascender
28-10-2005, 16:30
We could start a new thread where we just list our online IDs, nothing else? You add yours by copying and pasting the existing list? Put it in alphabetically? Would be a nice easy way for us to add each other and know we're all from on here?

ajw000
28-10-2005, 16:34
We could start a new thread where we just list our online IDs, nothing else? You add yours by copying and pasting the existing list? Put it in alphabetically? Would be a nice easy way for us to add each other and know we're all from on here?



sounds like a plan, someone want to start it?

steviep922
28-10-2005, 16:44
I think it does switch host at half time like the console version.

I just hosted a game, first half was silky smooth as you would expect, but then second half it was like playing in treacle and was a bit juddery as well.

username - steviep922 (just for a change!)

ascender
28-10-2005, 16:47
Done, have started topic.

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 17:04
Yeah it does change Steve you are right - not had any button lag thus far, but did have a very juddery game against someone playing in Spain :|

chet-lee
28-10-2005, 17:06
you have to register. When you put the dvd in and it autoruns click user registration.

Cheers tequila, I was pulling my hair out !!!

Ono
28-10-2005, 17:38
Hate the lobby system.

I want Direct IP ffs!! :cry:

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 17:41
i like the lobby and the way you set it up also remembers your stock settings


but i cant just get use to the clunky play its not smooth very rare you can run past a man

just seems very robotic no where near as smooth as pes4 i think

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 17:47
I like it.

Lou - I tried to add you to my friends earlier but it wouldn't let me.

Think you have to be playing someone at the time to add them - or maybe you have an anti C0ckeye filter on your friends list! :)

Tequila
28-10-2005, 17:48
Sorry John316 the game locked up I can't move.

Ono
28-10-2005, 18:06
Just had my first game and won 2-0 against a stranger.

Game is certainly slower than the demo when it is online. Not over convinced yet - but I'm sure I'll get use to it.

Really do not like the lobby at the moment too. Just not as easy as MSN IP input. Each match requires setting up a room which is a pain.

Still, it's only the first game.

Cockeye
28-10-2005, 18:14
I do enjoy the fact that everytime I log on there are at least seven people I know virtually! :)

Matt.Wild
28-10-2005, 18:24
i like the lobby and the way you set it up also remembers your stock settings


but i cant just get use to the clunky play its not smooth very rare you can run past a man

just seems very robotic no where near as smooth as pes4 i think

You are missing the point of PES 5 tho mate :D

PES 5 is all about passing. Try passing in triangles and the like, try to make space and suddenly it becomes absolutley fantastic and so satisfying when moves come off.

I much prefer it to PES 4 already :notworthy

EDIT

Forgot to say - I agree it IS really difficult just to run past people a la PES 4, but for me it makes it so much better. You can round people, but it needs shimmys and the like, which for me is damn realistic :D

damell
28-10-2005, 18:31
How can you not love this game? It makes PES4 look like FIFA95, really.

Everyone was crying out for a lobby system and now it's in (and pretty decent I have to say), you're still not happy. :D

2 great games against people with green connections and it was pretty smooth both times. Looks like the server is down at the moment though?

MarcusUK
28-10-2005, 18:32
So far I've lost 3-0 and drawn 0-0 *blush*

damell
28-10-2005, 18:32
Never mind me, it's back up. I got disconnected during a game though :(

HORNSTEVE9
28-10-2005, 18:37
i love the game i just beat dazkelly. thats a 1st. :thumbs:

ascender
28-10-2005, 18:37
BTW, version 1 of the PESFan option file has been released. Can be found here:

Clicky (http://www.pesfan.com/bulletin/showthread.php?t=90527)

Cheers,


-Mike

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 18:44
It doesn't work online though does it?

Questor
28-10-2005, 19:05
Thought I was going mad then I saw you had to do user registration - would have been nice for the game to tell you that!

pjg
28-10-2005, 19:08
Anyone fancy a game? Can't find anyone in the lobby :(

john316
28-10-2005, 19:09
Well, just finished my first online session and I am in total awe of this - its utterly sensational online. The game plays so much better with a human opponent compared to the somewhat sterile CPU play. Had a quality game against Tequila and even though I lost 3-1 - it didn't feel bad at all. Some of the finishes you see now are just great to see - even if its against yourself.

Scored an absolute fantastic goal with the Reds just before - cracking cross from Riise to an unmarked Luis Garcia. He did a cracking little layoff pass to Cisse who was stood around 5 yards away who just first time, side foot volleyed it into the bottom corner past a hapless Van Der Saar - I was just drooling at it cos you just didn't have any chance in hell of scoring a goal like that on Pro Evo 4 ever :D

Lag is no issue at all and the default 3-0 win whenever someone quits is pretty good as well :thumbs:

MarcusUK
28-10-2005, 19:12
Just had my first "Tequila" experience, just had my ass handed to me on a plate 6-0 lol

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 19:26
Im going in - see you on the beach...

Ben [Little Funk]
28-10-2005, 19:29
Mines still not working, the game isnt even showing in Windows Explorer. Absolutely gutted :(

Questor
28-10-2005, 19:39
Yeah - just had a couple of games with Nils and there was no lag whatsoever that I could tell - net code certainly seems better

unrealnils
28-10-2005, 19:41
well im getting ****** left right and center or pes online :D

but im loving it

Was more offph when i played a forums memeber over the randoms..........

;)

MarcusUK
28-10-2005, 20:01
Just had a quick couple of games with Ono. 0-0 and then 1-0 to me, my win was only down to a ronny wonder goal with barca. Draw for both games would have been fair.

Ono
28-10-2005, 20:04
So it seems that, like the other versions, we play one half as host each?

This is a shame IMHO, a real shame.

damell
28-10-2005, 20:09
So it seems that, like the other versions, we play one half as host each?

This is a shame IMHO, a real shame.

Why? :?:

Ono
28-10-2005, 20:14
Why? :?:
For our own leagues - a home and away is much better IMHO.

unrealnils
28-10-2005, 20:15
ALso last year no one would have played me .......

I guess these days connections are much faster though............

Doll
28-10-2005, 20:28
Just installed mine and when I go to run the game I get the message "No disc inserted" :thinking:
Also, if I do get it working, do I need to open any specific ports to play online ?

Sheepking
28-10-2005, 20:29
Has the router thing raised its ugly head again?

Ono
28-10-2005, 20:40
Has the router thing raised its ugly head again?
All fixed I think. Haven't heard a peep about it.

pjg
28-10-2005, 20:43
Well just played my first games of PES5 and maybe I chose a bad place to start playing Tequila. I didn't embarass myself though. I think the scores were 1-0, 2-0, 2-1 and finally 1-1 with me winning on pens :thumbs: (actually I think there was another win to Tequila which I missed out - another 2-0 maybe).

Anyone now to see if I can play someone I might actually be able to beat. Having realy trouble scoring so far.

Like the fact that you can play without putting the router in dmz and closing down firewalls etc. Also like the fact that you can chage camera settings etc in the games - replays don't seem quite as bad either. The chat is a bit annoying though having to press r2 all the time.

MarcusUK
28-10-2005, 21:02
Has the router thing raised its ugly head again?

Not sure how bad it was for PES4, but I've not had to do anything with my router and I'm playing fine.
Not even the need for port forwarding :thumbs:

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 21:10
Absolutely love it :thumbs:

Been playing solidly since about 9am this morning :nuts: :dork:

Had a good couple vs Nils just now and he's great fun - doing pyroettes in his own box and sucidal back-passes :D Quality entertainment.

pjg
28-10-2005, 21:11
The time out thing is a bit annoying. I was chatting to bobwindy before our game and it selected bulgaria for me as the time ran out. I lost 2-1 :(

Doll
28-10-2005, 21:17
Still can't get mine to play. Tried reinstalling about 4 times but no luck.

loates123
28-10-2005, 21:35
think it is great, a lot better than pes4

kipp
28-10-2005, 21:36
The chat thingy sucks !
Can only put about 3 words in at a time :nuts: :nuts: !

Will ave 2 us txt Spk ! :suspect:

Sorry for quiting so quick belly just then ! I pressed the wrong button :doh:
Good games m8 cheers


Kipp :)

Ono
28-10-2005, 21:45
Erm, sorry to:-

belly - the chat thing confused me as to who was challenging who!

Kipp - asked you to set up a room and then promptly challenged the other person in there and didn't realise until the match started! :nuts:

Not a fan of the lobby chat either. It's a bit **** IMHO.

damell
28-10-2005, 21:46
Love it, but my connection is being a ****. Been playing offline with the pesfan.com option file which is fantastic. :thumbs: Found out a couple of nifty moves that aren't in the manual so will be putting them in the masterclass thread shortly, with movies.

belly
28-10-2005, 22:18
damn it's tough. it's like i haven't played Pro Evo all over again.

played 4. lost 2, drawn 2. (scored 1!)

and, no probs Ono, i ended up playing Kipp! good games aswell. then played Art, who only scores from early corners! :)

internetuser
28-10-2005, 22:29
somebody reccomend a good gfx card to play this sub 50quid if you could. . currently got a ati radion 9000 ultra and it does not seem up to it on my xp2800 with 1 gig . . .

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 22:58
prob best trying to pick up a second hand 9800pro mate

unrealnils
28-10-2005, 23:14
yeah second the 2nd hand 9800 or something liek this eBay (http://www.tkqlhce.com/click-582776-5826355)

Ono
28-10-2005, 23:22
My record for the first day of having it is:

W6 D3 L3

My poor thumb :cry:

LouBarlow
28-10-2005, 23:22
1st defeat from the DVDF posse' congrats Ono - played me off the park 3-0 (though I won the return leg :D )

Another great about this game - last time I played Ono (in PES4) I won 7-1, and now it is more even - can only be a good thing :thumbs:

Matt.Wild
28-10-2005, 23:26
My misses has hidden my copy till i've helped her tidy up tomorrow :cry:

john316
28-10-2005, 23:27
Another great about this game - last time I played Ono (in PES4) I won 7-1, and now it is more even - can only be a good thing :thumbs:

Same here with Tequila - far more even game than our latter PES4 games. It seems the CPU is not as stupid defending this time (though, as Big T saw, GKs can still be a total calamity :| )

Art Vanderlay
28-10-2005, 23:44
I was a bit worried when I didn't enjoy my first couple of games much.

But after a few games I started to enjoy it, and it does feel more 'real' than PES4. OK, cutbacks still count for a few goals, but generally it is a genuine 2 on 1 situation, rather than the centre half going walkabouts for no reason.

Only time will tell whether it stands the test of time as well as PES4. But the first few months will be great fun, at the very least.

unrealnils
28-10-2005, 23:44
My misses has hidden my copy till i've helped her tidy up tomorrow :cry:
:lol:

bigjonnyauk
28-10-2005, 23:51
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i just cannot get use to the robotic turning and the way the players sometimes seem to have a twitch and jerk before they set off


also the auto switching is doing my head in sometimes dosent always switch to the best player

LouBarlow
29-10-2005, 00:22
Ill agree about the auto-switching - sometimes players take on a life of their own, but that is what super-cancel is for :D

Cockeye
29-10-2005, 00:37
Seems there is only really one person moaning about PES5! ;)

Just finished three good games against PJG.

First I won 3-0, second he won 2-0 and then I scraped the decider with a 1-0 win! Lucky, though.

One worry is that most of my goals seem to come from the same method - but it only seems to work with Liverpool. When playing with other teams I tend to score in a different way which is interesting.

My record now reads (without my two games against babyj this morning because that was using a different nick).

P10 Won 4 Drawn 2 Lost 4

Puts me way below the rest of you in the rankings. Oh, well. better get used to my rightful place early! :lol:

Cy'all tomorrow morning for more!

HORNSTEVE9
29-10-2005, 01:03
Seems there is only really one person moaning about PES5! ;)

Just finished three good games against PJG.

First I won 3-0, second he won 2-0 and then I scraped the decider with a 1-0 win! Lucky, though.

One worry is that most of my goals seem to come from the same method - but it only seems to work with Liverpool. When playing with other teams I tend to score in a different way which is interesting.

My record now reads (without my two games against babyj this morning because that was using a different nick).

P10 Won 4 Drawn 2 Lost 4

Puts me way below the rest of you in the rankings. Oh, well. better get used to my rightful place early! :lol:

Cy'all tomorrow morning for more!
well your b above me then :lol:

bigjonnyauk
29-10-2005, 01:05
@******* im not moaning bud others agree with my veiws

i am just giving my opinions about it but no doubt i will get use to it and be whipping your a33 again soon

just played 3 games against big t

lost first one 1-0 then drew the next 2 0-0 with both of us winning a pen shoot out each

ajw000
29-10-2005, 09:14
My misses has hidden my copy till i've helped her tidy up tomorrow :cry:


could be worse-the game is sat on my desk taunting me, but my new pc doesnt arrive till monday and i've dismantled my old pc and sold the parts :brickwall

Cockeye
29-10-2005, 09:30
@******* im not moaning bud others agree with my veiws

i am just giving my opinions about it but no doubt i will get use to it and be whipping your a33 again soon

just played 3 games against big t

lost first one 1-0 then drew the next 2 0-0 with both of us winning a pen shoot out each

I'm only joshing with you mate - and i do see your points!

Kept seeing you online yesterday but kept missing you for games. You can kick my arse later for sure!!

Ben [Little Funk]
29-10-2005, 10:33
Just played my first game, online, against some German chap


PES5 is great fun :D

Its pretty different to the demo imo, a bit slower. But i loved it :notworthy

brendonw
29-10-2005, 10:40
could be worse-the game is sat on my desk taunting me, but my new pc doesnt arrive till monday and i've dismantled my old pc and sold the parts :brickwall

There is always a downside to being sensible.

It'll be worth the wait I can assure you.

:)

Cockeye
29-10-2005, 11:11
Only three losses in ten now with the mighty European Champions.

I'm not filtering my opponents either so I must just get lucky with who I play.

Some bad tempered so and so's on there though.

just played someone, went 2-0 up within five minutes og game time so he just quit on me. Second time that's happened.

And i was looking forward to the shooting practice - I need it!

Great thing happened earlier though. Alonso went down and was writing on the ground in agony. Opponenet came running up the pitch and simply went round him and burst through on goal. I was about launch a stream of invective in his direction (shame we have no mic) when the linesman frantically signalled, and the ref blew up so that Alonso could be substituted! Just as he was about to score! :lol:

john316
29-10-2005, 11:19
just played someone, went 2-0 up within five minutes og game time so he just quit on me. Second time that's happened.

I played the biggest loser ever yesterday - I totally shredded him in the first half playwise but was only 3-0 at HT. But to try and avoid himself a Quit/3-0 defeat, he stopped controlling his players so everytime he kicked off, had a GK, a FK etc , I'd have to wait till the game timed out his attempt and it automatically too the attempt itself. I was utterly determined to keep going and earn me that 3-0 win. I was 8-0 up with 10 mins to go (the game took about 25 mins in total cos of the stoppages! :D ) but he eventually cracked, quit like a little whiny loser and took the disconnect against his name. His name is ARSENALHENRY14 - he is now blocked by me ;)