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LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 10:32
Apparently this is doing the rounds now - anyone had a chance to play it yet? :)

MarcusUK
15-09-2005, 11:20
Where can this demo be had from?
Or shouldn't I ask...

LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 11:25
No it's an official demo I think mate: I got mine from here...quite slow though.

Just about to install it :D

http://hosted.filefront.com/pesinsight

MarcusUK
15-09-2005, 11:28
No it's an official demo I think mate: I got mine from here...quite slow though.

Just about to install it :D

http://hosted.filefront.com/pesinsight

Many thanks, just kicking off the download now :thumbs:

LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 11:44
Hehehehe early impressions are good here :D

Looks identical to PES4 in many ways, and doesn't play exactly like Winning 11 9 either - kind of in-between them both, if you catch my drift?

Seems a touch slower than the PS2 version, and those long shots don't seem to zip about quite as much. Tougher to score than PES4, which can only be a good thing...I haven't managed a cut-back yet :lol:

If Konami nail the online mode, it's gonna be huge!

MarcusUK
15-09-2005, 11:58
I just need a better graphics card now, runs on on my x300.
But could definately do with something with a bit more of a kick to it, no pun intended!

john316
15-09-2005, 12:25
Oh yes, will be having a gander at this later for sure - what teams can you pick from?

LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 12:27
Chelsea, Arsenal, Real Madrid and Valencia.

Kits look great, and players faces are improved - Drogba is spot-on.

Cockeye
15-09-2005, 12:51
Oh cool! A chance to see whether it will work on my machine or not! :clap:

Just in the queue for a download now.

What is the expander? Do I need that too?

john316
15-09-2005, 12:56
Oh cool! A chance to see whether it will work on my machine or not! :clap:

Just in the queue for a download now.

What is the expander? Do I need that too?

Usually an expander either lets you choose any team or lets you play the game with varying time lengths instead of the fixed selection.

Cockeye
15-09-2005, 13:00
Cheers John!

Not getting great download speeds here. Currently between 60 and 75 Kbs (edit now up to 85)

When I downloaded the Paris Hilton vid earlier today (for a friend) I got 132Kps.

john316
15-09-2005, 13:18
Was your 'friend' impressed with the video? :D

Cockeye
15-09-2005, 13:21
No, I ..........I mean he.......found he couldn't really see anything with that damned night vision. :(

Art Vanderlay
15-09-2005, 13:55
Oh cool! A chance to see whether it will work on my machine or not!

You need to be a bit careful doing that. The demo for PES4 was a lot less demanding on my GFX card than the final release version. I could run the demo at 800x600 Medium no problem, but the final release would only run OK in low-res on the 9200 I had at the time

It should give you a general idea, though

LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 14:36
Can't see why it should be any more intensive than 4 - plays a lot better though imho :D

Can't wait for this.

Bolch
15-09-2005, 14:40
Can see a divided camp with this one tbh. Those that play an open game will love it, those that only play for the tried and tested cutbacks, crosses will probably hate it :p

It certainly feels different to PES4 when controlling players (for example the auto side step) so things like that will take a bit of getting used to, but I'm liking it so far.

brendonw
15-09-2005, 14:43
/Stuck at work and unable to download it/

Not a happy bunny.......by the time I get home the internet will be giving me the busy tone :lol:

LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 15:01
Can see a divided camp with this one tbh. Those that play an open game will love it, those that only play for the tried and tested cutbacks, crosses will probably hate it :p

It certainly feels different to PES4 when controlling players (for example the auto side step) so things like that will take a bit of getting used to, but I'm liking it so far.

Super cancel is back in there though, so you should be ok :lol:

LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 15:14
Seriously though, it plays a much better game of football I think - the two major problems with 4 were the ease of cut-back goals and scores from crosses - these aspects have been tightened up considerably, but at least now you will know you've been beaten by a better player, and not someone who has 'found out' the game and relies on it to win...that was the most annoying aspect of 4 I think.

Cockeye
15-09-2005, 15:17
Just played a couple of games.

Has any one else noticed there is a Network option, but no online option?

Seems very very different to 4, with a very different style of playing. I actually think this might suit me a lot more. You seem to get more time on the ball, with the computer playing a more intelligent type of game.

Scoring looks impossible though, I didn't get a sniff on goal in either match, but then again neither did the computer.

Whereas 4 often seems to be a case of each side having shots, and which striker is on form, this one is going to be very different IMHO.

Matt.Wild
15-09-2005, 15:37
This sounds good. Annoys the hell out of me playing people who either just run to the sideline each game and just cross it with a couple of tall players or cut it back. I like to be beaten by a better player like Lou says rather than someone who uses flaws in a game to score every time - thats why I stopped playing fifa for gawd sake :lol:

Anyhoo, I'm gonna stop talking about some damn PC game and get back to the swimming pool beside me here. Laters guys :D

LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 16:04
I love the way players can get injured by fair tackles too - just happened to Gilberto and he lies writhing in agony, till the ref stops the game and then restarts with a drop-ball :nuts:

Class :lol:

Cockeye
15-09-2005, 16:13
It's annoying me that you can only play one half.

I've now played six games, and not had a single shot on goal from the PC. I've had probably one chance per game, and not scored at all. :(


EDIT

Now in a queue of 21 people on the quietest server to download the expander. Anyone else got this and what does it do?


EDIT

Answers own question.

It allows you to play for longer.

Cockeye
15-09-2005, 16:31
Got the expander but doesn't seem to work. Now getting goals, and loving this game!

LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 16:49
Works for me - slows down the clock - if you want a long game press F6 - I do it on every screen, as Im not entirely sure when you have to press it :lol:

brendonw
15-09-2005, 17:34
Download is on a go slow here :mad:

Ono
15-09-2005, 17:34
Grabbing it now - had to pause the Steam DoD DL to give this priority :D

brendonw
15-09-2005, 17:52
so its you slowing it down is it ????

john316
15-09-2005, 18:21
135k a sec here - and that is slow for me :D

Cockeye
15-09-2005, 18:27
Thanks lou, that works. You use it on the options screen, where you can change the difficulty level.

Anyone who wants to try it beware, though. It makes the game last about a fortnight!

Ono
15-09-2005, 18:28
Impressions:

- nicely familiar - fits like a glove :D
- Ball sound is kind of weedy. Not the "thump" I am use to.
- Nice clean interface.
- Play will favour the passer and the patient player. Can see quite a few 0-0 draws in the league coming up.
- Nice crowd close up when scoring.
- Graphics not noticabely improved - but we have been spoilt by Wolfy.

Thumbs up so far for me. Shame the demo isn't online otherwise we could have had a mini tournament. ;)

brendonw
15-09-2005, 18:31
135k a sec here - and that is slow for me :D

:razz:

:lol:

damn my crappy 1mb connection............

john316
15-09-2005, 19:47
Loving it so far - first game 0-0 and then game 2 felt more at home. A lovely 2-0 win against Real with Valencia. Aimar and Kluivert were just devastating up front :D

LouBarlow
15-09-2005, 20:24
I found Valencia the toughest club out of the all of them - clubbered them eventually though natch :D

Another plus for me, is that better players are now evidenced by their skills rather than how hard it is to knock them off the ball, as seems to be the case in PES4 - Henry et al, are practically impossible to knock off the ball...unless you are Stam or someone :lol:

john316
15-09-2005, 20:42
I want that 7 star level though to play with - finding 5 star to be no match TBH :D

Art Vanderlay
15-09-2005, 22:44
As good as expected, really

- headers much more satisfying
- long shots more impressive
- marking AI seems improved
- a bit quicker than PES4 (or is that just because I never normally play vs CPU)
- tackling/battling for the ball is much more satisfying, and the ref is not as bad as I feared

I have had a couple of hangs when showing cut scenes for bookings etc, but otherwise seems to run as smoothly as PES4 on my PC

Let's hope we are still playing it this time next year when we are debating PES6 :D

SOUNDSTYLE
17-09-2005, 22:14
Just recently had a bash at this myself.

First impressions is that the play is more physical and that the physics of the ball are more realistic. Controlled passing is more key than in any of the previous pes series. The CPU does limit your general space and closes you down more and its up to you to create space with a range of passing. No pass, pass, pass shooting no more. :thumbs:


The play does seem a bit slow that I'm used to but hopefully you can speed it up when the final version is released.

Nice touches so far:

- Collisions in midfield with your own team mates.
- Ref's can get in the way of the ball.
- Ricochets between the ball in midfield.
- Ref's can dish out yellow cards when the ball has gone out of play for fouls earlier on in the game.
- Different height of headering in midfield.
- Ref points his arm in the direction for the throwing.




Not sure what the online bit will be like as playing against the CPU and an online opponent are totally different.



If you want to play a 25 minute half instead of the defualt 5 min and change more options than use this program below:
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PES5 [PC] Demo Trainer (http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=13QYQ5X26AYJX1Y2TGTA260QKX)
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usage:
1. copy pes5_demotrainer.exe into the game dir
2. run pes5_demotrainer.exe
3. press "Run Game"
4. During The Menu you can change the following entries:

note: switch screens (R1-L1) to make changes visible.


*________________________________________*
| PES5 Demo Trainer |
|----------------------------------------|
| F1 5min |
| F2 10min |
| F3 15min |
| F4 20min |
| F5 25min | |
|----------------------------------------|
| Einf (INS) Condition.Home prev |
| Entf (DEL) Condition.Home next |
| Pos1 (Home) Condition.Away prev |
| Ende (END) Condition.Away next |
|----------------------------------------|
| F7 Injuries on |
| F8 Injuries off |
|----------------------------------------|
| F9 Entrance.Scene on |
| F10 Entrance.Scene off |
|----------------------------------------|
| F11 Stadium.Effects on |
| F12 Stadium.Effects off |
|----------------------------------------|
| PgUp Max.Substitutions more |
| PgDn Max.Substitutions less |
*________________________________________*

Matt.Wild
19-09-2005, 11:55
Definately seems to have headed in the right direction. The way players position themselves seems more realistic and the ball movement seems more natural and more fluid.

The crux of whether its any better tho will be Online play IMO however...

bigjonnyauk
19-09-2005, 22:04
played 14 games and still not scored damn im hating this but will not give up

john316
20-09-2005, 06:32
played 14 games and still not scored damn im hating this but will not give up

:lol: :lol: :lol:

unrealnils
20-09-2005, 12:36
I wasnt as impressed as i was hoping but that might be a good thing.........

Gotta finish of my master league on pro evo 4 first :P

i scored a nice 1/2volley with Reyes......



ps is the demo two player ?

SOUNDSTYLE
20-09-2005, 13:09
ps is the demo two player ?

It sure is....! :)

stormywhether
23-09-2005, 06:51
that demo trainer file - is there anywhere else i can download it from as the file appears to have expired at that sendit place.

and do i actually need it, or is it the same as the extender?

Cockeye
23-09-2005, 08:39
It's the same as the extender. It allows you to alter game time etc etc.

If you need it contact me on MSN and I'll send it to you. It's a small file!

Bolch
18-10-2005, 14:45
Quick question guys.

Got another mate interested in joining but his machines a bit lacking at the mo.

It's a P4 2.2 with 256ram and I don't know what his graphics card is. I'm going to bump up his ram to 512 but can anyone recommend a reasonable graphics card that should run PES5? Not looking at spending more that £60 if we can help it. In the long run if he likes it he'll probably buy a new machine but for the moment just want to get him up and running and playing a few games.

Cheers

LouBarlow
18-10-2005, 14:48
Second hand 9800?

LouBarlow
18-10-2005, 14:49
BTW the offsides in this game are still bloody awfully done - in line should be *onside* ffs!!!111 :mad: :| :brickwall :p

Would really help the attacking side of the game if they sorted it.

Art Vanderlay
18-10-2005, 15:26
I use a Radeon 9500 64MB, which runs it OK in medium res at 1024x768 in the Demo

I got it from Scan for around £30, although they don't seem to stock them any more. Might be able to pick up a second hand one cheap, maybe if he wants to do it dirt cheap.

There are also some refurbed GFX cards that you can get from Retek - http://www.retekdirect.co.uk/acatalog/Video_Cards.html. The 9700 Pro for £44 would run it OK, I reckon

As to the offsides, my biggest worry with those is the 'realistic' waiting for the player to touch the ball before the flag goes up. Sometimes it is OK, but it is really annoying when your player is miles offside, and you have to chug after the ball and touch it before the whistle finally goes and play can recommence.

stormywhether
18-10-2005, 15:47
Can someone confirm this for me once and for all: how do you do a two-player game in the demo?

This option seems to be blacked out for me.

CarlFr
18-10-2005, 17:53
Anyone had joypad issues with the demo?

I cannot confiugre the thing properley - the settings program reports my pad as Logitech Dual Action when it is a PS2/USB pad??

When I make it as far as the game my players automatically run one way etc.. - similar to the King Kong demo issue.

Is there anyway I can stop my PC thinking I have a Logitech pad as it looks as though that could be the root of the problem

Thanks
Carl

john316
18-10-2005, 17:55
Anyone had joypad issues with the demo?

I cannot confiugre the thing properley - the settings program reports my pad as Logitech Dual Action when it is a PS2/USB pad??

When I make it as far as the game my players automatically run one way etc.. - similar to the King Kong demo issue.

Is there anyway I can stop my PC thinking I have a Logitech pad as it looks as though that could be the root of the problem

Thanks
Carl

Did you ever mess about with the Registry to get your PS2 pad working in EA Games? As some of them require you to fool Windows that it is a Logitech Pad to get it working properly.

LouBarlow
18-10-2005, 17:55
Can't help you soz Carl, but please tell me you're coming back to the league for part 5? :thumbs:

damell
18-10-2005, 18:00
On the subject of mother loving PS2/USB converters, I 'chased this (http://shop.game.net/ViewProduct.aspx?cat=10412&mid=326739) one from Game a few days a go and not once has it not responded to my button mashing, which can't be said for the one from play.com.

Might be worth a purchase if you're having the same problems I was.

CarlFr
18-10-2005, 18:22
john - I did indeed - MVP Baseball 04.

No idea how I did it. Please dont say its cocked up forever!

Lou - I would love to but still not too sure if I can give 100% committment. Any idea when it would be starting.

Does sound tempting again though....

CarlFr
18-10-2005, 21:56
john - any more advice on what to do in my situation - i.e. how to unreg my "Logitech" and turn into a PS2 pad?

Cant seem to find anything.

john316
19-10-2005, 06:37
john - I did indeed - MVP Baseball 04.

No idea how I did it. Please dont say its cocked up forever!

Lou - I would love to but still not too sure if I can give 100% committment. Any idea when it would be starting.

Does sound tempting again though....

Open regedit

Browse to here:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\MediaProperties\PrivateProperties\Joystick\OEM\

Find the one labelled Logitech Dual Action and rename it to Dual PSX-USB Adaptor and then reboot to see if its successful. If not, there may be 1-2 other things you can try.

CarlFr
19-10-2005, 08:42
Excellent stuff John, just checked Control Panel and it has changed.

Seem to have two pads installed but at least its no longer Logitech.

Hope in the two years that I have not played EA Sports titles they have sorted that issue out.

unrealnils
19-10-2005, 08:57
Can someone confirm this for me once and for all: how do you do a two-player game in the demo?

This option seems to be blacked out for me.


hey stormy chack in the options section that you have the second player connected to you're second pad or keyboard hor joystick if you're mad enough :D

might be a case of selecting that before player two can play with you :)

unrealnils
19-10-2005, 09:17
anyone know of a place where ican get , and even it actually exists, the second pes 5 pc demo with milan, juventus, barcellona, inter

:help:

Cockeye
19-10-2005, 09:39
The second pc demo I have is exactly the same as the first in terms of teams. It just has slightly tightened gameplay and a commentary that sounds like it's coming through a tranny.

I haven't heard of any other version.

belly
19-10-2005, 09:50
a commentary that sounds like it's coming through a tranny.

is that a girlie voice or a manly one?

still can't score in this godforsaken game. 2 goals in 13948029340 games. :doh:

LouBarlow
19-10-2005, 09:54
Play like you did in our friendlies last night ;)

Cockeye
19-10-2005, 10:39
is that a girlie voice or a manly one?

still can't score in this godforsaken game. 2 goals in 13948029340 games. :doh:

:lol:

Transister radio.

Anyone else noticed this on the demo?

MarcusUK
19-10-2005, 16:50
Another question about setting up the ps2 pad. I hope this is a quick and easy one to answer.
Not sure if I've set my pad up correctly. I went into the config and assigned the buttons.
But only certain directions work on the menu's and sometimes my plays in a game will just do a random spin move?!?

Any ideas or suggestions?

I'm using the usb adaptor from play.

john316
19-10-2005, 16:53
Press the Analog button on the Pad so that the light is lit up

Excellent stuff John, just checked Control Panel and it has changed.

Seem to have two pads installed but at least its no longer Logitech.

Hope in the two years that I have not played EA Sports titles they have sorted that issue out.

They have fixed it so that PS2 pads work without that reg change

BUT, you have to either disable one of them in Device Manager or plug a pad into the both ports on the converter otherwise you get menu issues in most EA Sports games.

MarcusUK
19-10-2005, 18:09
Thanks John that worked a treat.

SOUNDSTYLE
19-10-2005, 21:30
Anyone finding that Offside is bloody tight yet again.....

Has anyone told Konami that "level" is onside......! :|

MarcusUK
19-10-2005, 22:59
Definately, I'm constantly getting caught offside.

unrealnils
19-10-2005, 23:11
Two things im finding really hard are when the goalie kicks it out or a long pass by the other team there attacker always gets ahead of my defender and sheilds me fromthe ball but when its the other way round he just gets past me........

Also my passing as gone to **** every time it pass its not far/fast enough and not as accurate as pro evo 4 .
I guess its more manual then pro evo 4 passing .

Also im using long pass more and its more effective then before.....

I hit a cracker outside the box by A. Cole it was :D

also ntl are coming on friday the 28th :D if my copy of pes5 turns up to it should be an intresting weekend :D