Looks like we're getting the Criterion Collection version of 'The Rock' in R2!!1111 [Archive]

Jodrell

07-12-2001, 08:49

Look here (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/6c58504cd644dcd5802566a4004a5ef9/961de0f3d02f04d580256b1b00314cb6?OpenDocument). :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

dogbert

07-12-2001, 09:23

its about bloody time !!!!!!!1

gZa

07-12-2001, 09:33

Have they resubmitted the uncut print to get the 15seconds (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/ClassifiedWorks/5da5c5d9d8f5df818025660b000c49e6?OpenDocument&AutoFramed&BaseTarget=BBFCLower) put back?! Knife in the neck is still a bit strong for a 15 cert methinks - can they bump it to an 18?

Robby

07-12-2001, 10:29

Good find Jodrell!!!!:D

I don't care how good Criterion are they are still bleedin expensive. Hopefully R2 will get the dts soundtrack too.
:rolleyes:

gZa

07-12-2001, 10:43

Also it's worth noting that there's more swearing in the commentary track and deleted scenes than in the whole movie!
So unless this gets bumped to a 18 - I can see it losing stuff.

utero

07-12-2001, 11:13

I wouldn't be surprised if a few things get lost like the DTS track. The one thing I miss on the armageddon release is the gag reel but an anamorphic transfer took over so......

thespook

07-12-2001, 11:24

Originally posted by Garry Cowell
Have they resubmitted the uncut print to get the 15seconds (http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classified.nsf/ClassifiedWorks/5da5c5d9d8f5df818025660b000c49e6?OpenDocument&AutoFramed&BaseTarget=BBFCLower) put back?! Knife in the neck is still a bit strong for a 15 cert methinks - can they bump it to an 18?

Where was the "knife in the neck" bit?

gZa

07-12-2001, 11:31

Knife in the neck bit

When Mason and Goodspeed enter the morgue before the gun fire starts Mason throws a knife [cue: Sam Raimi Knife Cam] that hits a guy plum-in-the-neck! BLAOW!

...this was cut in ALL versions of The Rock, thus avoiding an 18, in the UK (Cinema, VHS, DVD) so unless you've seen the uncut R1 or the odd uncut screening on SKY. You won't have seen it!

thespook

07-12-2001, 11:35

Nice!!

Is there a good chance that they'll keep it?

I've never seen that bit before:(

Byron

07-12-2001, 11:39

Originally posted by Garry Cowell
Also it's worth noting that there's more swearing in the commentary track and deleted scenes than in the whole movie!
So unless this gets bumped to a 18 - I can see it losing stuff.

Well unless the swearing includes a certain coloquial slang term for the female genitalia the begins with "c" and rhyms with "shunt", I can't see this being a problem.

Knife in the neck though - definately! Hate to put a downer on things, but the BBFC have been sticking pretty rigidly to their absurd "no higher certificate than that previously awarded" policy ...

Jodrell

07-12-2001, 11:50

Originally posted by Byron

Hate to put a downer on things, but the BBFC have been sticking pretty rigidly to their absurd "no higher certificate than that previously awarded" policy ...

Makes me so friggin' angry that. :mad: :mad: :mad:

The BBFC should encourage distributours to release films uncut, not stand in there way. :mad: :mad: :mad:

gZa

07-12-2001, 12:02

Originally posted by Byron
Well unless the swearing includes a certain coloquial slang term for the female genitalia the begins with "c" and rhyms with "shunt", I can't see this being a problem.That is EXACTLY the word Connery uses in the deleted scene!:D

Byron

07-12-2001, 12:18

Originally posted by Garry Cowell
That is EXACTLY the word Connery uses in the deleted scene!:D

:D

Well I suppose he could still get away with it, if it isn't directed at a woman, as Withnail and I got away with two uses when it was re-classified recently (yes, I know, the board's policy over this naughty synonym gets more incongruous and amusing by the month).

gZa

07-12-2001, 12:24

BTW it's directed at an elevator door with much venom! :clap:

Robby

07-12-2001, 12:29

Speaking of the 'C' word it wasn't until i watched Being John Malkovich again recently that i realised Malkovich's Agent say's it about the lady in reception.!!!:eek:

Anyway hijack over:D

Byron

07-12-2001, 12:41

Originally posted by Garry Cowell
BTW it's directed at an elevator door with much venom! :clap:

Well I don't believe the BBFC have explicitly mentioned their policy towards elevator doors being denigrated with the word in question previously, so this could be a very important test-case.

;)

Davester

07-12-2001, 13:51

sampath

07-12-2001, 14:10

Good news indeed, and I guess if the BBFC do decide to cut it (which is pretty likely unfortunately) you could always get it from mainland Europe (provided it gets released there of course, which it should do), thereby giving the BBFC a proverbial two-fingered salute. :cool:

I guess we won't be seeing an R4 release of this soon, as the bare-bones re-release of this was only a few weeks ago.

john316

08-12-2001, 00:34

Originally posted by utero
I wouldn't be surprised if a few things get lost like the DTS track. The one thing I miss on the armageddon release is the gag reel but an anamorphic transfer took over so......

Have Buena Vista UK released a title with DTS yet?

Madm@tt

08-12-2001, 07:47

Have Buena Vista UK released a title with DTS yet? Good Point...

...But everyone has got to start somewhere...

...right?:(

john316

08-12-2001, 10:23

Originally posted by Madm@tt
Good Point...

...But everyone has got to start somewhere...

...right?:(

I doubt it will be The Rock though - they decided not to with Pearl Harbor or Unbreakable which where huge releases. Unless BV has a great deal with Criterion, I don't think they will give them the DTS track they created specially for the DVD IMO!