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Jodrell
02-12-2001, 13:01
THE BBFC website lists a shorter running time for the recently classified Metrodome versions of these films. Has Metrodome pre-cut both titles or what? :confused:
BenH
03-12-2001, 10:56
Up, cause I'm keen to find out as well.

Would be surprised if they had though........
grant
03-12-2001, 12:19
well somehow, Metrodomes 'Rabid' is 4 minutes shorter than the other classified videos, 4 of them.
Mike
03-12-2001, 19:00
"Rabid" is certainly uncut as far as I can see, comparing it to previous video releases, pre-VRA and 1998 "18", and the Channel 4 version shown earlier this year.
Jodrell
04-12-2001, 10:17
Originally posted by Mike
"Rabid" is certainly uncut as far as I can see, comparing it to previous video releases, pre-VRA and 1998 "18", and the Channel 4 version shown earlier this year.

Ta Mike. :)

Any ideas regarding the discrepancy with the running time though? :confused:

How about Shivers?
Gary Couzens
04-12-2001, 21:57
Originally posted by Jodrell

Any ideas regarding the discrepancy with the running time though?

The earlier releases were sourced and converted from a NTSC master, hence runs to the correct cinema running time. The new version came from a PAL master, hence the 4% loss in running time.

Conversions from NTSC masters are not uncommon. For a well-known example, compare the running times of the first release of the <i>Aliens</i> Special Edition to the later releases.
BenH
18-09-2002, 15:19
Just thought I'd bump this as I've just gone for them as they're both £6.49 each at play.com :)
GPR79
18-09-2002, 19:50
Damn hadn't noticed there were discrepancies in run-time, I've just ordered the R2's and was about to sell off my R1's, I'll have to compare em first now methinks :(
raptor
18-09-2002, 23:04
I doubt there will be any difference.. and £6.49 each.. :p
jroadley
18-02-2006, 19:51
Looking to purchase Shivers - what is the best version to get?
DeadKenny
18-02-2006, 20:20
The earlier releases were sourced and converted from a NTSC master, hence runs to the correct cinema running time. The new version came from a PAL master, hence the 4% loss in running time.

Conversions from NTSC masters are not uncommon. For a well-known example, compare the running times of the first release of the <i>Aliens</i> Special Edition to the later releases.
Conversions from NTSC masters and a PAL master would be identical running times whether it's converted from 24fps film to NTSC master and then to PAL, or direct from 24fps to PAL. Either way it's 1fps(4%) faster. Virtually no PAL DVD runs at the correct 24fps film rate (even if some are pitch corrected so sound correct).

The discrepancy at the BBFC may be a comparison between the cinematic release and a video release (PAL). It could also be down to other material submitted including comany logos and endless copyright messages in a dozen different languages (typical with PAL DVDs).

As far as I know, neither of these films are cut in the UK.
Mike
18-02-2006, 20:42
The Cronenberg films from Prism (as I think they now are) are definitely uncut. By the standards of present day horror, there's not a great deal to cut.
jroadley
21-02-2006, 19:28
The Cronenberg films from Prism (as I think they now are) are definitely uncut. By the standards of present day horror, there's not a great deal to cut.

Thanks Mike, picked up the Prism release for £4.85 from DVDPopcorn ;)