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fivebyfive
27-04-2005, 16:46
http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics2/cricket1.jpg

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics2/cricket2.jpg

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics2/cricket3.jpg

http://www.ukresistance.co.uk/pics2/cricket4.jpg

;)

I wouldn't put it past EA to do something like this

john316
27-04-2005, 16:48
I could just see that 4th pic!!! :lol:

MrSpeed
27-04-2005, 16:49
New item..Laser Bat

:lol:

Matt KB
27-04-2005, 17:01
:lol:

warney
27-04-2005, 18:28
Any ideas when this is due for release guys ? I wonder if Ricky Ponting's bat will be used !

Bolch
27-04-2005, 18:42
:lol: @ Screen 4

unrealnils
27-04-2005, 23:23
:lol: well funny :D Snoops the man !!!

kanjar
28-04-2005, 06:42
what the heck is snoop doing in a cricket game.. i would have prefered dickie bird popping up and saying stupid stuff like "Ooh er, that ball was thrown faster than the bus that runs from wigan to leigh"...

i was soo looking forward to a cricket game, since the last few efforts have been poor, but this has just put a damper on everything :(

Ono
28-04-2005, 07:03
Anyone know when EA Cricket Street is out? :suspect:

Dan
28-04-2005, 07:05
WTF? :lol:

Barny79
28-04-2005, 08:08
what the heck is snoop doing in a cricket game.. i would have prefered dickie bird popping up and saying stupid stuff like "Ooh er, that ball was thrown faster than the bus that runs from wigan to leigh"...

i was soo looking forward to a cricket game, since the last few efforts have been poor, but this has just put a damper on everything :(
Are you for real or just on crack?

kanjar
28-04-2005, 08:40
Are you for real or just on crack?

not really mate.. hehehe... dickie bird is class..

Moving away from the point... its nice to see you are from Bury too... ;)

john316
28-04-2005, 08:58
what the heck is snoop doing in a cricket game.. i would have prefered dickie bird popping up and saying stupid stuff like "Ooh er, that ball was thrown faster than the bus that runs from wigan to leigh"...

i was soo looking forward to a cricket game, since the last few efforts have been poor, but this has just put a damper on everything :(

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Mr Majestik
28-04-2005, 09:29
I can't wait for 50 cents Crown green bowling game.

kanjar
28-04-2005, 10:22
which begs the question? why are all games chavified for.... I used to be a massive fan of hip hop but now they just throw it in where its not needed one single bit.. i mean Hip hop and cricket... WTF

Harsin
28-04-2005, 10:24
:nuts:

Is anyone going to tell him...

unrealnils
28-04-2005, 10:26
Hip hops/raps gone down the pan the last 5 years anyway :(

I still listen to my stuff from the 90's :D

Barny79
28-04-2005, 10:30
which begs the question? why are all games chavified for.... I used to be a massive fan of hip hop but now they just throw it in where its not needed one single bit.. i mean Hip hop and cricket... WTF
:cuckoo:

kanjar
28-04-2005, 10:41
:cuckoo:

Whats so cuckoo about that?? :shrug:

Bapapapa
28-04-2005, 10:49
:nuts:

john316
28-04-2005, 10:57
I can't tell now whether kanjar is either insane or winding us all up now! :lol:

Paul.B
28-04-2005, 10:58
:clap: :clap: :clap: :lol: Thread shortly moving to Dvd orums GOLD!!!

kanjar
28-04-2005, 11:04
ok ive just realised... :nuts:

leave me alone now!!

john316
28-04-2005, 11:06
ok ive just realised... :nuts:

leave me alone now!!

You iz da man now - you werked out da trooth like us hip hop dudez :dork:

kanjar
28-04-2005, 11:07
its a hard life working on early shifts...... makes u go doolally

Barny79
28-04-2005, 11:13
Whats so cuckoo about that?? :shrug:
I don't know whether to :lol: , :eek: , :| , :suspect: or :oh-hum:

unrealnils
28-04-2005, 11:21
LOL poor Kanjar :D

zulm
28-04-2005, 19:18
Maybe it's the after effects of the marriage eating away at his brain cells :p :lol:

JohnMac
01-07-2005, 08:56
Just a reminder that Cricket 2005 is released on PS2, XBOX and PC today. I've only read a review of Brian Lara International Cricket 2005 (a scan of the PSM2 review was posted on the Codemasters forums) and that was disappointing (60%). According to that review it's better than Cricket 2002 but worse than Cricket 2005.

I'm not the biggest fan of EA Sports games at the moment and I'm glad I got ESPN (NFL, NHL, NBA) 2k5 while I could. But I think I'm going to buy EA's Cricket 2005. I've not played any of their earlier cricket games so it is a bit of a gamble.

john316
01-07-2005, 11:57
I'd rather get my hands on a new Cricket Management game rather than this but no doubt I'll give it a quick spin ;)

Steve Parkinson
01-07-2005, 12:40
Oh god, it's so hard. So very, very hard.

I understand any attempt to move away from gameplay where you end up playing test matches at a run a ball or better, but this has just gone too far in the other dircetion. It feels like there might as well be 20 fielders at any one time. And don't even think about a six shot until you've faced 50 balls.

:(

JohnMac
01-07-2005, 12:59
PSM2 gave Cricket 2005 79 and Brian Lara International Cricket 2005 got 60. They don't tend to give games with limited appeal a high score - Madden 2005 only got 82 for example.

At the end of the review of Cricket 2005 it says:
"If you're looking for a casual experience then you'll be stumped, but for fans of the sport prepared to put in time in the nets and work out the game's subtleties, it's a rewarding, enduring sim..."

Cricket 2005 looks good for both International and Domestic matches and tournaments. The batting and bowling looks surprisingly in-depth because as well as being affected by batting/bowling stats it also takes account of stamina and confidence (which affects special deliveries and batting strokes I think). So a new batsman has to get settled in before slogging it for 4s and 6s. While a bowler's confidence and special delivery meter will fill up by performing well or getting a wicket. This could make the game more realistic but it's definitely a simulation and not a pick up and play arcade game.

Kronik
01-07-2005, 13:19
Just a reminder that Cricket 2005 is released on PS2, XBOX and PC today. I've only read a review of Brian Lara International Cricket 2005 (a scan of the PSM2 review was posted on the Codemasters forums) and that was disappointing (60%). According to that review it's better than Cricket 2002 but worse than Cricket 2005.


They re-made a Brian Lara cricket game? :clap:

But its poor? :cry:

I loved Brian Lara Cricket on mega Drive and PS even with the hundreds of bugs it suffered from!

Jimi_Hendrix2001
01-07-2005, 13:42
i keep getting "no-balls" when they are clearly not!

Steve Parkinson
01-07-2005, 13:53
Cricket 2005 looks good for both International and Domestic matches and tournaments. The batting and bowling looks surprisingly in-depth because as well as being affected by batting/bowling stats it also takes account of stamina and confidence (which affects special deliveries and batting strokes I think). So a new batsman has to get settled in before slogging it for 4s and 6s. While a bowler's confidence and special delivery meter will fill up by performing well or getting a wicket. This could make the game more realistic but it's definitely a simulation and not a pick up and play arcade game.

As i said, it certainly is laudable to try improve over previous incarnations of both EA Cricket and Brian Lara, but my experience of it so far is that it makes one day matches, and Twenty20 matches in particular, completely unplayable, even on easy mode. Whoever heard of an international quality batsman who needs to face 30/40 balls before he can hit a boundary without being caught out? I wouldn't mind so much if you could actually bisect the field at least on a fairly regular basis with a normal front or back foot shot. They could have at least included a slog mode like on the original Lara.

But maybe practice really does make perfect :shrug:

jtorry
01-07-2005, 18:39
We've got a preview of Brian Lara on Pro-G next week, along with a number of gameplay videos showing off my amazing skills. All I'll say for now is that the 60% score seems remarkably harsh and reading the little discription of EA's game above, it seems very similar. In Lara you have to build up your bowler's confindence in order to bowl special deliveries and the more well-timed shots you play with your batsmen, the more confidence he gets.

JohnMac
01-07-2005, 19:04
I've had a couple of attempts at Cricket 2005 (PS2 version). For my first go I tried batting in an international game and scored 1 run and lost all my wickets very carelessly. Then I decided to read the manual a bit more and took note of what the review said about spending some time in the nets perfecting my skills. I was surprised how vital timing is when batting because even a slightly mis-timed shot will usually result in a catch or a miss. When in the nets there's a handy indicator that tells you exactly how early or late your batting stoke is and I also experimented with more advanced batting controls that are only available when playing on Medium or Hard difficulty.

For my second attempt I played as Lancashire against Glamorgan. Again, I was a bit rubbish. But this time, among the swings and misses I did manage a couple of 6s and a few 4s but I was all out for 47. But this was much better than scoring just 1 run and the boundaries I did get I played for. When the time came to bowl (which I hadn't done in the nets) I was less successful. But by the time Glamorgan were reaching my total I was starting to get the hang of it: switching bowlers and bowling deliveries from the other side of the stumps. It was only right at the end of the game I noticed the special abilities and the stats for each bowler which will be very useful once I spend more time with the game. I didn't manage to bowl anyone out but I did manage to limit their scoring by picking the appropriate bowling attack.

After my first try I thought I had made a terrible mistake buying this game. But after my second try I know that I can get much better at the game. It is clear that Cricket 2005 does have a lot of depth to the gameplay but it will also be a difficult game to master. That's no bad thing for cricketing fans because the game will have long term appeal. But equally, those who don't want to invest the time learning how to get the most out of Cricket 2005 will probably be frustrated with this one if they just want to pick it up and have a quick game of arcade-style cricket every now and then.

JohnMac
01-07-2005, 21:47
Just had a 20/20 over game playing as New Zealand against the West Indies (night-time game). I lost because of a poor, reckless batting performance trying to chase the target the West Indies had set. But I was pleased with the way the game had started: I bowled the West Indies out for 121 and stumped Lara first ball. I gave away too many extras (24) but I was impressed with the improvement in my bowling by using bowlers with different abilities and varying the types and lengths of deliveries. I wish I had been more patient when batting but I was really pleased with the bowling aspect of my third game.

slartybart
02-07-2005, 09:47
Hmm, not sure so far. It's definitely an improvement over previous versions, the bowling is spot on but I'm finding the batting impossible to decipher. I've yet to get over 44 runs in an innings, the nets practice is frustrating so far. Just when I think I'm getting a hang of it, it's back to square one.

I'll stick with it in the hope that I can suss out the intracacies of batting as there's a good game lurking there.

At the moment though it reminds of World Championship Snooker 2005 - in that there's an excellent game there but the AI is too frustrating.

JohnMac
02-07-2005, 10:07
At the moment though it reminds of World Championship Snooker 2005 - in that there's an excellent game there but the AI is too frustrating.

I've actually gone back to World Championship Snooker 2004 rather than continue with the 2005 version. Mostly because of the stupidly hard difficulty that doesn't give you a chance but also because of other aspects of the 2004 version that I liked such as decent menus, high score records (which are a big incentive to keep playing), the money you won actually being used for something. Also, the use of the thumbstick/analogue stick to take your shot in the 2005 version isn't any more realistic than the pre-set shots from 2004, it's just an extension of the 2004 system that makes it more likely you'll make a mistake.

Br00n
02-07-2005, 23:15
WTF is cricket anyway, an utter waste of a good piece of grass. Rounders i what you want :o

kanjar
03-07-2005, 09:53
cant wait to get this now.. even though i thought snoop dog did the intros in this game..

john316
04-07-2005, 13:01
Had a really long session with this yesterday and quite enjoyed it. I'm absolutely hopeless with the batting side - If I get really patient, I can score 50/60 but trying to score more that 1 run off a shot is absolutely rock hard. Yeah, I can use the Left Trigger/6 hit button to score a few boundaries but surely you can hit boundaries that don't leave you 90% certain of getting caught?

It does seem hit and miss at times though - there seems to be no real difference between the better batsmen. People like Flintoff and Pietersen don't seem to hit the ball any harder than people like Giles, Collingwood etc which is a shame.

And things like the sloppy interchange between Animations is pretty crap - to see a modern game where your fielder just skids along the grass rather than actually have an animation where the fielder runs to his right or left is just a bit crap. The commentary is crap as well - but with as most EA Games, it ain't a surprise!

But I was pleasantly surprised at the bowling section which is very good indeed - haven't worked out all the Ball icons but I'm sure it won't take long :D

Idle Child
04-07-2005, 13:48
60% for Brian Lara?!

Here are ign screenshots (http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/702/702096/imgs_1.html) of that game. Reading the features on the box over at play.com Brian Lara Cricket already sounds more appealing to me. And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like cricket!

JohnMac
04-07-2005, 15:48
I'm not improving quickly enough at the batting aspect of Cricket 2005 but I love the bowling side of the game. As well as the Nets training I think Cricket 2005 should have had a proper batting training mode to explain exactly what all the different batting strokes are and when they should be used. The timing of shots is a bit too unforgiving although I've found that changing the camera angle to behind the batsman has improved my timing slightly. I'm also still making big mistakes about when I should be playing front foot or back foot shots or even when it's appropriate for the batsman to advance down the wicket. Between all these different variations and the different timing of each of them, I'm getting a bit frustrated with batting.

The bowling on the other hand is superb. I've been using different deliveries, changing speed, spin, line, length and generally experimenting with the bowling and even the field placements. Even the weather and pitch conditions affect these variables. I've bowled sides out even in a 20/20 game but I've had to use a variety of techniques to get the job done. I'm great at limiting a batting side to a very low total but at the expense of wickets and getting a lot of maiden overs in the process. On the other hand I can get batsman out but it's almost always more expensive in terms of runs. The exception to all this is when I bowled South Africa out for 11 runs in a 10 over game.

One aspect of the game I haven't really explored in detail yet is the player profiles. Each player has stats, strengths and deficiencies so I'm sure playing to these and exploiting the weaknesses of whoever I'm playing against will work well. It would have been useful to be able to check these (for the team you are playing against) during a match though.

As for Brian Lara International Cricket 2005, I'll probably check this out as well so I can decide for myself which game I prefer. From what I've read Cricket 2005 is more of a sim compared to the Brian Lara game which is much more arcade-style cricket. Batting is easier that in Cricket 2005 and you can get a high score but the downside (so I've read) is that the bowling is tedious and getting batsmen out can be frustrating. There's no autoplay option on Brian Lara Crciket 2005 which isn't a problem for a 20/20 or other one day game but in a test match it might be a problem because bowling can get very repetitive.

I've read that the XBOX version of Cricket 2005 doesn't let you save your game between overs, unlike the PC and PS2 versions.

jtorry
04-07-2005, 15:56
Can you swing the ball in Cricket 2005? Brian Lara has this and adds a lot to the bowling. Combining swing with seam can produce some really lethal deliveries.

JohnMac
04-07-2005, 16:16
Types of bowling that can be performed in Cricket 2005: Standard, Outswinger, Inswinger, Leg Cutter, Off Cutter, Yorker, Bouncer, Slower Ball, Reverse Swing, Off Break, Leg Break, Arm Ball, Top Spinner, Googly, Full Flight, Zooter, Flipper, Doosra, Teesra.

You won't be able to bowl all these delivery styles with any one bowler and you'll need to build up the bowler's confidence to get access to the more specialist deliveries. Plus, "skillful bowlers can swing or spin the ball more effectively."

Kronik
04-07-2005, 23:05
60% for Brian Lara?!

Here are ign screenshots (http://media.ps2.ign.com/media/702/702096/imgs_1.html) of that game. Reading the features on the box over at play.com Brian Lara Cricket already sounds more appealing to me. And this is coming from someone who doesn't even like cricket!

The graphics arent up to much are they? :(

HullJim
05-07-2005, 18:20
Jesus, this is tough!

I cant get it off the square - bowled out by Holland for 12! (After bowling them out for 42).

GRRRRRR!

odin
05-07-2005, 18:40
Am really interested in getting this, downloaded the demo last night and although i found it damn hard it was still enjoyable enough for me to keep trying.

Which version are you all buying PC or Xbox? :)

JohnMac
05-07-2005, 19:21
Which version are you all buying PC or Xbox? :)

I've got the PS2 version. As I mentioned in an earlier post I've read that the XBOX version won't let you save your progress between overs.

john316
05-07-2005, 20:00
Now its really starting to annoy me now this game - all I can do is score 1 or 6s. There seems to be no power at all in normal shots and so the utter lack of variety in scoring gets very boring :(

JohnMac
05-07-2005, 21:10
Now its really starting to annoy me now this game - all I can do is score 1 or 6s. There seems to be no power at all in normal shots and so the utter lack of variety in scoring gets very boring :(

The batting is annoying me as well. I've manged to get a few 2s as well as 1s but they are few and far between. I can also score some 4s and 6s but I just end up being bowled out for a very low score. It doesn't help that most of my shots seem to go straight to the fielders. I've not played any of the earlier EA Cricket games but when you play the same shot twice it shouldn't follow exactly the same line.

The bowling is great, but if I can't get to grips with the batting it doesn't really matter how good the bowling is. :(

hildener
05-07-2005, 21:40
got the xbox version and it wont let you save between overs this renders the game useless sent it back for a refund today another mistake by ea like tiger woods 2005 on ps2

Idle Child
06-07-2005, 01:53
I've played both demos and to be honest, EA's game is not a patch on Brian Lara! I'm not sure how reviewers can come to this conclusion. :?:

While EA's game looks nice in places and has higher player and stadium detail, there's something about it that doesn't seem as intuitive as Brian Lara. And it's set at a much slower pace. Codemasters really have the gem here.

The batting is good for a novice like me to get involved with a few well placed shots. You have 3 shot buttons: a loft, a defense, and an attack. You can aim these shots anywhere (or atleast on a 8 or 16 point axis maybe). I've got a few 4s and 6s in the game. It's always satisfying hitting one of those, or even just hitting the ball far enough to score a couple of runs. it's really not difficult if you get the timing correct. The most difficult balls to hit are those that are wides.

On the bowling end you get a charge meter which when on the sweet spot is like the max speed of the bowler. You place the length of your shot with a cursor on the pitch as you run up for release. You can then spin the ball left or right, or go straight through at the battsmen upon the bounce of the ball on the pitch. Quite simple to explain, but tricky to master. What makes it harder is i know nothing about which types of bowls are good for outing what types of battsmen or what exactly the point is of various wides. If i was a cricket expert i'm sure i'd place a more intelligent bowl.

The AI is pretty decent even on "county" difficulty. When batting they try to exploit holes in your fielding which is good to see. And with easy balls they can knock them for 4s and 6s all day long with ease.

Anyone unsure of BL should make the effort to download the PC demo (there's a 250meg one without commentary, and a 900meg with commentary). The BL demo allows batting and bowling, something the EA demo does not. The BL demo is six overs each way. I think the EA demo is only 3 batting? The BL demo just seems so much more polished. It actually remembers the screen resolution each time you play, which is handy considering EA's doesn't.

The BL commentary version features sparse commentary but the demo is nice to have as a warm-up to the full game released in 2 weeks time.The PC version of BL is going for a bargain of £18 at play.com at the moment. Considering it's the version which might have patches and user made mods, it's seriously worth considering as a purchase, especially if you enjoy the demo (which i'm currently hooked on).

I personally think Codemaster's BL2005 is to the cricket videogame world what Konami's PES series is to the soccer videogame world, or at least its positioned to be just that if it keeps on developing on it's solid foundation.

jtorry
06-07-2005, 10:49
Pro-G's preview and gameplay movies of the PS2 version of Lara are up, if anyone wants some more info on the game.

Brian Lara International Cricket preview and videos (http://www.pro-g.co.uk/previews/pid/331/91/)

HullJim
06-07-2005, 10:55
Well, I'm bobbins at the EA one on Xbox!

Very nearly lobbed it out of the window last night....

So when's this other puppy out?!?

john316
06-07-2005, 10:59
Does the ball actually move like a real cricket ball in the game? Cricket 2005's ball has some VERY dodgy physics applied to it so it'd be nice if this is better in the game.

I do seem to get the impression that neither game is brilliant - a combination of the 2 would probably yield a superb game :(

odin
06-07-2005, 11:14
Got the PC demo of Brian Lara and its much better than Cricket 2005 imo, i know you can't really compare them as BL lets you bat & bowl but it just felt alot more polished. Think i'll be placing an order very soon :)

JohnMac
07-07-2005, 12:50
I had another go with Cricket 2005 last night. I wanted to concentrate on improving my batting so I just kept using the Play Now (Exhibition) Mode and took advantage of the Autoplay feature whenever the side I picked had to field first. After a while something about the batting just clicked into place. Before, I had been thinking of each ball as potential runs (which of course they are). But as soon as I started to think about it from the perspective of trying to build up my own batting repertoire of shots that I could feel confident about playing things improved a lot. I’m still not getting high scores when batting but that is partly because I’m still experimenting with what works and what results in a batsman being caught.

I’ve got more confident about going for boundaries. In my last game for example I was mostly trying to score 4s or 6s and my innings only lasted for 4.3 overs. But Vaughan got two 6s (both to Deep Mid Wicket) and a 4 (Long Off); Pietersen got a 6 (Deep Square Leg); Gough scored a 4 (Long Leg) and even Harmison(sp) managed a 4 (Deep Mid Wicket) despite some nasty spin bowling.

I’ve got better at playing for 1s and 2s. Sometimes these come from hitting it (about 45 degrees) either side of the bowler and finding a gap in the field. If there’s no fielder directly behind the bowler I’ve also had some success hitting it straight over the bowler and if it’s a fast bowl and pitches short even a defensive back foot shot can clear the bowler. My most common shot that produces a run is when I flick the ball just in front of the batsman’s feet down the leg side but slightly behind the line of the wicket. If the ball is pitched short a back foot hook shot can also get me a run or two in a similar part of the field. Most of the time when I play for singles I don’t use the power button and initiating the shot as late as possible seems to add strength to the shot. I’ve not done as well (so far) with scoring on the off side but I can occasionally get a decent square drive or hit it for 6 down the field.

hardtofin
07-07-2005, 13:22
Does the pitch wear with footholes etc over the period of a 5 day test match, so spinners can exploit it?

JohnMac
07-07-2005, 13:33
Does the pitch wear with footholes etc over the period of a 5 day test match, so spinners can exploit it?

It does wear over a 5 day test match but I haven't played test matches that much so I can't really comment on how it affects the bowling over time. So yes, that feature is in the game. I can tell you that the weather, temperature and pitch condition at the start of the match definitely make a difference to how you'll do at batting and bowling (the latter also affecting the speed of the outfield). It did rain for a couple of hours (not real time obviously) on a test match that I started playing.

john316
07-07-2005, 13:37
I've made a mini breakthrough on the batting side of things - previously, I would move the analogue stick first to select the type of shot, then hit the front/back foot button to execute the shot. But I read that if you do both at the same time, it times the shot a bit better and I was actually able to hit a few good boundaries without using the stupid '6 hit' combo which was my doom everytime. I eventually got totally undone by Muralitharan on a dusty wicket in Sri Lanka but I felt like I was being done by good bowling, not cos of some ****** inability to hit the ball more than 2 foot :D

JohnMac
07-07-2005, 13:57
I'm still trying to work out how the batting system works but I think the batsman will start to play his shot at the ball when you initiate it. So the batsman's position, position of the bat and the distance the ball is from the bat will all affect the direction the ball will go when hit and the speed of the ball when hit. That's why (I think) if you start the batting stroke when the ball's very close, you can get some power even in a shot where you don't use the power button. It's making the same shot but in less time and thefore the bat has to be moved quicker/faster. It also says on the loading screens that hitting the ball in the middle of the bat increases the power of your shot and, on another loading screen it says that when the batsman's confidence is high he will time the shot better. I interpreted this last bit of advice as meaning that it gives the player a greater margin of error.

Edit: I hope that makes sense.

HullJim
07-07-2005, 14:20
Well I got skittled by Lancashire on a wet wicket for 30 odd. Balls.

gunner
07-07-2005, 14:35
Does the pitch wear with footholes etc over the period of a 5 day test match, so spinners can exploit it?

Can you let us know when you are going to play your matches on Pro Evo mate? There is a few people who are waiting for you to post in the Pro Evo thread.
Sorry to butt in on the thread guys. :wave:

hardtofin
07-07-2005, 14:54
Can you let us know when you are going to play your matches on Pro Evo mate? There is a few people who are waiting for you to post in the Pro Evo thread.
Sorry to butt in on the thread guys. :wave:


Sure i can play them tonight. My problem was getting everyone else to play them when the league was first set up !!

gunner
07-07-2005, 15:40
Can you put a post in the main PC thread mate, they will be falling over themselves to play you.

And back to the cricket.... :p

john316
07-07-2005, 18:48
Made my first ever three figure score before - 103 all out against the Aussies with S.Africa. Was well chuffed :D

If I didn't blast myself 4 times with Run Outs, then I reckon I could have made 150/200 but that ain't accounting for the Spin King who came and was practically unhittable :D

Kronik
07-07-2005, 18:56
I think I may hold out for Brian Lara, I've just played the PC demo and am impressed.

JohnMac
07-07-2005, 19:29
Made my first ever three figure score before - 103 all out against the Aussies with S.Africa. Was well chuffed :D

If I didn't blast myself 4 times with Run Outs, then I reckon I could have made 150/200 but that ain't accounting for the Spin King who came and was practically unhittable :D

Great work John316, I've yet to reach the dizzy heights of a three figure score. I've only just broke 50 and that felt like a real achievement. I always end up losing my wickets cheaply though. I'll start to be greedy trying to run a 2 or going for glory and the big slog when I know the moment I pressed the button it was the wrong thing to do.

How many overs did it take you to reach 103? Was it a one day game or a test match? Were you playing on the default difficulty, if so any tips?

Ono
07-07-2005, 19:41
This game, like many EA sports games, is way too shiny.

john316
07-07-2005, 21:21
How many overs did it take you to reach 103? Was it a one day game or a test match? Were you playing on the default difficulty, if so any tips?

It was a 5 day test match - I find the test match arena a better way of mastering batting. You tend to face very attacking fields with some obvious holes in the field. You can start to attack these areas with a wider range of shots and also 6 hit efforts that allow you to get that confidence up without a real risk of getting caught. Managed to hit 39 with Graeme Smith with that sort of tactic which is also my highest indvidual score as well in that game with one player.

Spin bowling is my next avenue to master - really struggle to hit against the spin. But if I can master that and improve my batting in the test arena, I'll head back to the One Day game with the more spaced out fielding and see if I can start doing more damage there :thumbs:

d80s0q
07-07-2005, 21:40
The Brian Lara demo has kept me busy all week. I'm far more up for that than EA cricket. If anyone gets the chance, try the demo, its just such good fun. ALso, easy to pick up but very ahrd to master!

d80s0q

soldave
08-07-2005, 05:21
It was a 5 day test match - I find the test match arena a better way of mastering batting. You tend to face very attacking fields with some obvious holes in the field. You can start to attack these areas with a wider range of shots and also 6 hit efforts that allow you to get that confidence up without a real risk of getting caught. Managed to hit 39 with Graeme Smith with that sort of tactic which is also my highest indvidual score as well in that game with one player.

Spin bowling is my next avenue to master - really struggle to hit against the spin. But if I can master that and improve my batting in the test arena, I'll head back to the One Day game with the more spaced out fielding and see if I can start doing more damage there :thumbs:
But don't you have to play a Test match all through, as you can't save it? Sounds pretty poor to me if that's the case. I had high hopes for this game but might have to hold out until Brian Lara's comes out (when is that, by the way?).

john316
08-07-2005, 06:30
But don't you have to play a Test match all through, as you can't save it? Sounds pretty poor to me if that's the case. I had high hopes for this game but might have to hold out until Brian Lara's comes out (when is that, by the way?).

PS2 and PC versions let you save - the Xbox one doesn't :suspect:

HullJim
08-07-2005, 08:38
Which is a **** quite frankly.

d80s0q
08-07-2005, 09:49
BLIC is release on the 21st of July in time for the ashes...

d80s0q

Sheepking
08-07-2005, 11:25
This game, like many EA sports games, is way too shiny.

Did you spell the last word wrong on purpose to avoid the autosensor??

Downloaded the PC demo and didn't think much of it. Will give the lara demo a download later.

damell
08-07-2005, 11:45
Brian Lara looks great actually, from the ProG movies. Many a day wasted on Lara 99.

Kronik
08-07-2005, 12:07
The Brian Lara demo has kept me busy all week. I'm far more up for that than EA cricket. If anyone gets the chance, try the demo, its just such good fun. ALso, easy to pick up but very ahrd to master!

d80s0q

Its just a shame that you only get to play 6 overs. :(

d80s0q
08-07-2005, 12:10
yep, have the game on order tho ;)

d80s0q

HullJim
08-07-2005, 13:07
I may have to pre-order this beasty.....I'm liking this!

Idle Child
08-07-2005, 13:20
Like i said earlier, only £18 for the PC version of Brian Lara 2005 at play.com!

But the PS2 preview (http://www.pro-g.co.uk/previews/pid/331/91/) over at pro-g also looks quite sweet too!

Kashni
08-07-2005, 14:54
I Think I'll be waiting for BLIC too but in the mean time i'll be playing this www.stickcricket.com

TigaSefi
08-07-2005, 15:18
I Think I'll be waiting for BLIC too but in the mean time i'll be playing this www.stickcricket.com

I play that constantly, Only ever got up to Pakistan in that 20 overs tournament. i get 220 odd off the first 8 overs then it goes to pot as the spinners are hard to consistently get 4's and 6's :(

monster munch
10-07-2005, 16:06
I just played the xbox version of EA Cricket and I have to say that I'm utterly disappointed. It must be just me because I can't find any fun in it. I can't get the ball away past the first fielder and can't score any runs. I'll be damned if I'm going to defend for half an hour so that I can score a four!

john316
11-07-2005, 06:44
Getting back to the cheesed off mode again now - I actually find it harder against Bangladesh than Australia now cos of their field placements. Its virtually impossible to score anywhere other than a leg glance to 3rd man without the six hit button. And its espically annoying when you see the computer being able to pick apart your field with a wide variety of front and back front shots when you bowl :(

HullJim
11-07-2005, 08:11
I've decided.

It's plums.

James wins.

JohnMac
11-07-2005, 15:01
My highest score is now 82. It was all going really well because Vaughan and Pietersen were settled and it had been about 40 runs since the loss of a wicket and the score was 74. Then the spin bowlers decimated the batting. Still, 82 off 9.5 overs isn't bad. Vaughan scored 32 off 15 balls, with 2 4s and 3 6s.

d80s0q
12-07-2005, 09:51
http://www.planetcricket.net/blc/

Someone has just developed a BLIC demo extender so you can play a 50 over match. There goes my week's evenings ;)

d80s0q

petehateley
12-07-2005, 09:56
Hip hops/raps gone down the pan the last 5 years anyway :(

I still listen to my stuff from the 90's :D

Yeah me too, Downloaded the Onyx "backdafucup" on Istore the other day! :clap:

Kronik
12-07-2005, 10:52
http://www.planetcricket.net/blc/

Someone has just developed a BLIC demo extender so you can play a 50 over match. There goes my week's evenings ;)

d80s0q

Nice one! :clap: :thumbs:

odin
12-07-2005, 14:35
Thanks for the link :thumbs: , am really getting into it now, mastering the batting is taking a while though.

dancleary1
12-07-2005, 21:41
http://www.planetcricket.net/blc/

Someone has just developed a BLIC demo extender so you can play a 50 over match. There goes my week's evenings ;)

d80s0q

he he nice one!

d80s0q
12-07-2005, 22:39
he he nice one!

Yes, it is. I played as England Vs Windies in a 50 overs match - beat them 458 to 300ish!

Then played the ozzies in a 20:20. Restricted them to 152 and beat them with around 12 balls and 3 wickets spare!

Great fun - now I just need the full game :)

d80s0q

JohnMac
13-07-2005, 19:22
I'm still improving with EA's Cricket 2005. Playing as England (against Australia) I got 100 exactly, then on my next go I got 124 (Flintoff 43 Not Out and Strauss out for 26). My innings don't last that long (10 and 12.5 overs respectively) but I know I can bat more conservatively and take fewer risks if I put my mind to it. I'm getting much better at picking the right shot and placement depending on where the ball pitches and my timing of different shots (all over the ground) is becoming more instinctive. I'm really pleased with the way my batting is improving and it's so rewarding because of the time it has taken to master the skill that is required. I've got plenty of 6s and a number of my 4s I got without using the power button. I also ran plenty of 2s and a couple of 3s. There's still room for improvement, especially dealing with certain types of bowling and pacing my innings. But I'm finally starting to get the rewards for sticking with Cricket 2005.

warney
15-07-2005, 11:39
I received this last night for the xbox and was bowled out for 12 first attempt ! I have now managed to get to 34 all out but boy is it hard, can't get the ball to the deep and the catches cover point is making is no ones business ! I've hit a couple of fours, finding leg glances the best way to keep the score moving but short pitches deliveries are a no go at the moment. Only had a couple of attempt due to time constraints but the graphics are good. Plenty of bugs in the commentary and that's after a short time playing !

Shame about the no save in test cricket, couldn't see one in ODI's either but maybe after the innings is completed ? I didn't check ! Not as good as I hoped.

LouBarlow
15-07-2005, 14:30
Just played BLIC for the first time - oh dear there goes whats left of my social life :lol:

john316
16-07-2005, 11:34
Just got the BL demo this morning - 10 mins later my order is with Play. That is the sort of Cricket game I like. Fun, easy to play and lots of features :thumbs:

jan08
17-07-2005, 11:54
Just ordered BLIC after reading this thread. Cheers chaps!

JohnMac
17-07-2005, 12:06
I haven't played the demo but I've got Brian Lara Cricket on pre-order. I do have my concerns that if its easy to get 250+ runs or win straight away in the Brian Lara game that it just won't have the long term appeal of mastering the game like Cricket 2005 has. But all of the comments about the game have been positive so I'm looking forward to playing it.

LouBarlow
17-07-2005, 12:11
Brian Lara is very easy...well batting is anyway :lol:

john316
17-07-2005, 12:13
The confidence levels start off really high due to it being a demo - the Retail game will require you to build your innings far more effectively ;)

**** at bowling though with it - can't figure it out with my PS2 pad at all :D

jan08
17-07-2005, 12:15
Brian Lara is very easy...well batting is anyway :lol:
I'm really, really crap at games. Cricket 2005 seems too hard from whats been said here. I'll take too easy every time ;)
Cheap at Amazon too.

Barny79
18-07-2005, 07:12
Pre-ordered Brian Lara, as like jan08, I'm put off by games that I can't get into, also, seemed like a bargain price at £26.99

LouBarlow
18-07-2005, 07:33
isnt it 17 quid @ Play? :suspect:

Barny79
18-07-2005, 07:41
isnt it 17 quid @ Play? :suspect:
That's on the PC isn't it? £26.99 on PS2 and XBOX at Amazon

LouBarlow
18-07-2005, 07:50
Ahhhhhh haaaaa - fair play :)

d80s0q
18-07-2005, 09:45
Brian Lara is very easy...well batting is anyway :lol:

Its only on county difficulty level on the demo tho - will be harder options in the full game.

d80s0q

Idle Child
18-07-2005, 14:57
i put my order in for the PS2 version. The vids i've seen on Pro-G don't look shabby at all, and plus - 2 player will be more convenient on a PS2 than at my computer.

john316
18-07-2005, 16:51
Brian Lara Cricket now packing at Play for the PC :D

d80s0q
18-07-2005, 18:24
Brian Lara Cricket now packing at Play for the PC :D

Mine's just processing :(

Still, we do have real cricket to look forward to :)

d80s0q

john316
19-07-2005, 15:17
Now sent :D

d80s0q
19-07-2005, 16:47
Mine too - Should have it on friday, ready to replay the (hopeful) thrashing we have given the ozzies up to then ;)

d80s0q

JohnMac
19-07-2005, 17:08
My best score is now 184 all out after 22.2 overs (playing as England against Australia). Strauss scored 84 and Butcher got 44.

Fall: 24, 24, 39, 142, 148, 174, 174, 174, 174, 184.

Most of the damage was done when Warne bowled a really nasty over and all the fielders crowded round the batsmen waiting for a catch. Butcher went followed by a number of the tail-enders for ducks. I managed to get a defiant boundary before the last wicket fell.

john316
19-07-2005, 17:13
My best score is now 184 all out after 22.2 overs (playing as England against Australia). Strauss scored 84 and Butcher got 44.

How many Six-Hit button did you have to use to score them though? :D

JohnMac
19-07-2005, 17:35
All of the 6s I got with the six-hit button and about half to two-thirds of the 4s. I did get a few 4s in that innings without using that button. For example, when a ball is bowled quite short on the leg side I'll play a back foot shot and glance it to the boundary almost directly behind the wicket. Square cuts and square drives are also quite easy to get boundaries when you time them right (but quite risky) when the ball pitches short of the stumps on the off side. I also got a 4 straight down the ground that the bowler didn't pick up. I wasn't expecting to even get a run off that one let alone a boundary but it made it there eventually. Edit: I got quite a few 1s, 2s and a 3 as well.

Questor
19-07-2005, 19:27
I got a very weird run out bug with the BLIC demo tonight - I was well in (past the wicket keeper) and the umpire gave me out - without even going to the third umpire

JohnMac
19-07-2005, 19:38
How many Six-Hit button did you have to use to score them though? :D

To add to my above post, yes I think the "six-hit" button is misleading because you can't score 4s without it for most shots; just a select few that use the momentum of the ball and, if you are lucky a few that get through a gap in the field with no fielder near the rope. I think the "six-hit" button should have been called the "power-shot" button instead. Some of the shots I play with the "six-hit" button I'm only playing for a single run not even a boundary. Although badly named I think the "six-hit/power-shot" button works well but I also like to go for 1s, 2s and a few 4s with just a standard shot.

JohnMac
20-07-2005, 00:06
I decided to take the john316 challenge and try to bat against Australia in a 50 over innings without using the "six-hit" power button. I was all out after only 7.4 overs but I did manage to get
18 4s

Idle Child
20-07-2005, 00:18
Sounds pants JohnMac.. Time for you to get Brian Lara and stop tearing your hair out. :D It really is a wonderful game.

JohnMac
20-07-2005, 01:05
No, the above score was when I wasn't playing the game properly just to see if I could get 4s without the power shot button. My best score so far is 184 against Australia (Strauss 84, Butcher 44).

I've got Brian Lara International Cricket on pre-order and I'm looking forward to playing that as well but Cricket 2005 is a very good cricket game. Once you've been through the painful and humiliating initiation rites the game puts you through, you gradually improve and then the reward is a great cricket game/simulation.

Idle Child
20-07-2005, 01:52
No, the above score was when I wasn't playing the game properly just to see if I could get 4s without the power shot button. My best score so far is 184 against Australia (Strauss 84, Butcher 44).

I've got Brian Lara International Cricket on pre-order and I'm looking forward to playing that as well but Cricket 2005 is a very good cricket game. Once you've been through the painful and humiliating initiation rites the game puts you through, you gradually improve and then the reward is a great cricket game/simulation.
Well, that's good to hear, but surely that isn't necessarily how gaming should be. It sounds like a pain in the backside from where i'm sitting. A lot of gamers are referring to Brian Lara as easy to "pick up and play". That seems a little over simplifed and insulting to the game, but surely the best kind of game is one that's easy to play, and hard to master? If so, that's the kind of gameplay BL has, and it doesn't require humiliating initiation rites and grand efforts of perseverence to enjoy!

soldave
20-07-2005, 04:19
Do you think there's any chance of an EA patch for the Xbox version to make the games saveable?

john316
20-07-2005, 10:22
Do you think there's any chance of an EA patch for the Xbox version to make the games saveable?

Highly doubt it - not even sure they've admitted its an issue yet! :|

To add to my above post, yes I think the "six-hit" button is misleading because you can't score 4s without it for most shots

That is what ultimately did me in on Cricket 2005 - I feel that its impossible to just punish bad balls with a thrusting cover drive. Instead you have to slap the 'Power Hit' button and take the pretty good chance of getting your arse caught by a fielder who is about 2 feet away :cry:

Its always a great feeling when you smash a boundary on BLIC without using any Power Hit button (even though the facility is there). I reckon Brian Lara on hard will give me the best of both worlds - really hope it arrives tomorrow so I can have play whilst watching the Ashes at the same time :D

warney
20-07-2005, 11:30
Well, that's good to hear, but surely that isn't necessarily how gaming should be. It sounds like a pain in the backside from where i'm sitting. A lot of gamers are referring to Brian Lara as easy to "pick up and play". That seems a little over simplifed and insulting to the game, but surely the best kind of game is one that's easy to play, and hard to master? If so, that's the kind of gameplay BL has, and it doesn't require humiliating initiation rites and grand efforts of perseverence to enjoy!

I've had Lara for a few days now (Xbox Version) and have to say it is incredibly easy to pick up and play, can't remember what standard I'm playing at but it's not the village green level. Batting is very very easy compared to EA's game to be fair so it will be interesting to see if it gets as hard as EA is when the level is increased.

I was a little disappointed that the names (apart from Ponting and Lara) aren't licensed, Ponting is because Codemasters are launching a Ponting game in September.

I like the layout of everything, creating a career player is quite interesting although I do prefer EA's stats corner compared to what is offered by Codemasters. One thing I am finding harder than EA is the ability to take wickets! Time will tell ! Not sure about the graphics yet, EA's seem better however the use of Hawkeye adds a certain enjoyment.

LouBarlow
20-07-2005, 11:32
I thought they had the licensed player names in BLIC for the tournaments? :thinking:

I noticed Shane Warne wasn't in the demo though - couldn't they pay him enough or something? :D

warney
20-07-2005, 11:41
I thought they had the licensed player names in BLIC for the tournaments? :thinking:

I noticed Shane Warne wasn't in the demo though - couldn't they pay him enough or something? :D

I can't remember the names off the top of my head but Gilchrist was something like Gelchrast, Lehmann was Leyton or something similar. They did just enough to know who the players were, Warne was certainly not Warne but the name began with W !!

JohnMac
20-07-2005, 11:54
Well, that's good to hear, but surely that isn't necessarily how gaming should be. It sounds like a pain in the backside from where i'm sitting. A lot of gamers are referring to Brian Lara as easy to "pick up and play". That seems a little over simplifed and insulting to the game, but surely the best kind of game is one that's easy to play, and hard to master? If so, that's the kind of gameplay BL has, and it doesn't require humiliating initiation rites and grand efforts of perseverence to enjoy!

The difference between the two games is that Cricket 2005 is a cricket simulation and Brian Lara (from what I've read) is more of an arcade-style "pick up and play" cricket game. There's nothing wrong with either approach to a cricket game and in fact I'm glad they aren't that similar because there's more choice. When I first read about both games and they both required you to build your batsman's confidence I thought they would both be exactly the same and I'm glad they aren't.

As for humiliating initiation rites, you can read through this thread at all of my posts and you'll see that when I started playing I was awful at the game. I was so bad that I was happy when I posted a score in the 30s I think. But you'll also notice a gradual progression and improvement as I got to grips with the game...of cricket as much as the game from EA.

Basically, to do well at Cricket 2005 you need to learn how to play cricket. You can't just go for every ball that is bowled at you and play the shot you want because it will either go straight to a fielder or you'll sky it and you'll be caught out. I've learned that you have to build up a repertoire of shots that you know how to play and pick the correct shot selection depending on where the ball pitches. But you also have to take account of the type of bowling and even the fielding placements will give you a good idea of how they plan to get your wicket. For example, if you see three or four slip catchers (which is quite common in test matches) don't play a shot straight down the wicket because you can be sure that the bowler is trying to get an edge and you'll be out.

But there's even more to it than that: every batsman has their own strengths (shots that they are great at doing) and deficiencies. You'll sometimes try to play a shot and the batsman will just play a defensive shot and you'll think what's wrong with the controls. Timing is also very important when playing a shot and every type of shot and the way you play it has to be timed perfectly, although I've started to discover that certain shots such as glances and edges are more flexible and you have a lot of control over where they go. The advantage of building up your batsman's confidence is that the timing is more fogiving once you've done this.

I'm starting to get the rewards for sticking with Cricket 2005 and those rewards aren't to do with progressing in the game it's that I'm learning how to play cricket. I've still got a lot to learn and each milestone is when I discover how and when to play a new type of shot and add it to my repertiore which adds to my confidence, let alone that of the batsman. I think that if I win every game very easily in Brian Lara Cricket I'll be very disappointed after playing Cricket 2005. If you are instantly brilliant at a game where's the incentive to go back to it. I don't think Brian Lara Cricket will be that easy though because I believe that in the demo the batsmen start with full confidence and the difficulty setting is low.

Damonc
20-07-2005, 12:06
I'm interested in getting this game for Xbox. Is it true that you can't save the game in Test Cricket mode at all?

JohnMac
20-07-2005, 12:07
I thought they had the licensed player names in BLIC for the tournaments? :thinking:

I noticed Shane Warne wasn't in the demo though - couldn't they pay him enough or something? :D

I think they have the licensed names from the last Cricket World Cup but you can only use those names in that tournament.

john316
20-07-2005, 12:29
I noticed Shane Warne wasn't in the demo though - couldn't they pay him enough or something? :D

Retired from International One Day Cricket :dork:

Idle Child
20-07-2005, 12:38
I'm starting to get the rewards for sticking with Cricket 2005 and those rewards aren't to do with progressing in the game it's that I'm learning how to play cricket. I've still got a lot to learn and each milestone is when I discover how and when to play a new type of shot and add it to my repertiore which adds to my confidence, let alone that of the batsman. I think that if I win every game very easily in Brian Lara Cricket I'll be very disappointed after playing Cricket 2005. If you are instantly brilliant at a game where's the incentive to go back to it. I don't think Brian Lara Cricket will be that easy though because I believe that in the demo the batsmen start with full confidence and the difficulty setting is low.

Sounds like you are trying to justify some poor gameplay implementations. It's great that you've discovered some kind of depth as you see it, but personally the gameplay you describe would send me up the wall. With a learning curve so steep and a gameplay mechanic that doesn't sound intuitive or well thought out in C2005, i think you'll be pleasantly surprised when you recieve BL. You'll be wondering how you had the patience in the first place to put up with Cricket 2005. From the short demo i played, there wasn't much i could salvage as an entertaining gaming experience.

Eurogamer have a quite a damning review on Ea's Cricket 2005 (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=60110).

And here's Pro-G's review of BL2005 (http://www.pro-g.co.uk/review/332/).

HullJim
20-07-2005, 12:43
Are people picking copies of this up now? Thought it was tomorrow it was out?!?

Idle Child
20-07-2005, 12:46
I was a little disappointed that the names (apart from Ponting and Lara) aren't licensed, Ponting is because Codemasters are launching a Ponting game in September.

I like the layout of everything, creating a career player is quite interesting although I do prefer EA's stats corner compared to what is offered by Codemasters. One thing I am finding harder than EA is the ability to take wickets! Time will tell ! Not sure about the graphics yet, EA's seem better however the use of Hawkeye adds a certain enjoyment.
Two things:
1. You must be playing exhibition mode. Here, the player names are not licensed. They are for the official tournament modes like the world cup because it uses the official rosters from 2003. For exhibition, you have the facility of editing the names. While it can be a chore, people have beeing doing this no problem for games such as Pro Evolution Soccer.
2. Reviews are indicating that the "test match" difficulty is extremely hard. If your timing on the lower difficulty modes is just too good than you should put up the level and make the game more of a challange for you.

Are people picking copies of this up now? Thought it was tomorrow it was out?!?
It is out tomorrow. Maybe unsuspecting highstreet stores have copies already on their shelves?

JohnMac
20-07-2005, 18:49
My new best innings score is now 224.

john316
21-07-2005, 10:14
No sign of it today :(

odin
21-07-2005, 10:47
My PC version arrived from Play this morning, will have a play today but am away all weekend.

john316
21-07-2005, 11:04
:cry:

Idle Child
21-07-2005, 13:33
I have recieved my Ps2 version of BLIC today. I'll post my game impressions later after i've had a play. What i will say though is as expected, Exhibition games have fake player names. So i'll have to get around editing all that. One problem: Don't know much about cricketters!

Barny79
21-07-2005, 13:34
Seems like the aussies have been training using EA Cricket at the mo ;)

JohnMac
21-07-2005, 13:42
Seems like the aussies have been training using EA Cricket at the mo ;)

190 All Out! I've done better than that.

dancleary1
21-07-2005, 17:51
Seems like the aussies have been training using EA Cricket at the mo ;)


kiss of death :nuts:

JohnMac
21-07-2005, 18:40
An e-mail has just flooded in from Amazon informing me that Brian Lara International Cricket has been sent. Fingers crossed, that should arrive tomorrow. :)

I thought it might be useful to anyone who has Cricket 2005 or even the Brian Lara game to post an example of where I'm getting runs when playing a Test Match. The situation is a bit different in one day games because I intentionally edge the ball through the slips, but I would never risk that in a Test Match situation because there's often three or four fielders just waiting to catch it. So the following spider chart is for when I got 79 runs playing as Trescothick.

http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005_spider_small.JPG
full size picture (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005_spider.jpg)

It's a good example of the range of shots that I'm comfortable at playing but like I said it doesn't cover the intentional edges through the slips I would play in a one-day game. Trescothick is a left handed batsman so the leg side is on the left of the field in the picture.

All the 6s (and at least one 4) are in almost the same spot but I'm also quite good at getting 6s straight down the ground where you see Trescothick got two 4s. The 4 on the right hand side of the field in the picture I got without using the six-hit button and many of the 2s and 1s (including the three white lines on the right) I got without using the power-shot button.

JohnMac
22-07-2005, 00:11
I decided to have my own Ashes Test Match but I used Autoplay for the bowling because it's still the batting that I'm concentrating on.

http://www.john-mac.com/england_australia_summary.jpg

Australia 1st Innings (http://www.john-mac.com/australia1.jpg)
England 1st Innings (http://www.john-mac.com/england1.jpg)
Australia 2nd Innings (http://www.john-mac.com/australia2.jpg)
England 2nd Innings (http://www.john-mac.com/england2.jpg)

:)

Barny79
22-07-2005, 07:51
Mine has been dispatched as well from Amazon

john316
22-07-2005, 09:38
Australia 1st Innings (http://www.john-mac.com/australia1.jpg)
England 1st Innings (http://www.john-mac.com/england1.jpg)
Australia 2nd Innings (http://www.john-mac.com/australia2.jpg)
England 2nd Innings (http://www.john-mac.com/england2.jpg)

:)

Now what is the fun in a 17.4 run rate in a test match? :dork:

Barny79
22-07-2005, 10:08
Anyone got theirs from Amazon today?

JohnMac
22-07-2005, 10:39
I have recieved my Ps2 version of BLIC today. I'll post my game impressions later after i've had a play. What i will say though is as expected, Exhibition games have fake player names. So i'll have to get around editing all that. One problem: Don't know much about cricketters!

Australia

Ricky Ponting - R Ponting
Adam Gilchrist - A Gelchrast
Brad Hogg - B Hugg
Andy Bichel - A Bagel
Justin Langer - J Linker
Jason Gillespie - J Guisseppi
Shane Warne - S Worde
SCG MacGill - S Magoll
Matthew Hayden - M Hyder
Simon Katich - S Kettack
Brett Lee - B Leap
Darren Lehmann - D Laymer
Michael Clarke - M Clock
Damien Martyn - D Mehrten
Glenn McGrath - G MacGrith
Andy Symonds - A Simms

Bangladesh

Khaled Mashud - K Meshad
Alok Kapali - A Kepoli
Habibul Bashar - H Bisher
Hannan Sarker - H Sorkur
Khaled Mahmud - K Mehmad
Manjurul Islam - M Islen
Mohammad Ashraful - M Ashrofel
Mohammad Rafique - M Refequar
Tapash Baisya - T Beasyar
Mushfiqur Rahman - M Rehmon
Tariq Aziz - T Azezi
Rajin Saleh - R Solih
Shahariar Hossain - Sh Hassan
Faisal Hossain - F Hassan
Abdur Razzaq - A Rozzeq
Alamqir Kabir - A Kober

Canada

Ashish Bagai - A Bogir
Ian Billcliff - I Bellclef
Desmond Chumney - D Chamnay
Austin Codrington - A Cedrungton
John Davison - J Doveson
Nicholas de Groot - N de Greet
Joseph Harris - J Horace
Nicholas Ifill - N Ifal
Davis Joseph - D Jusuph
Ishwar Maraj - I Merej
Abdul Samad - A Semid
Fazil Samad - F Semid
Barry Seebaran - B Soorbiren
Sanjayan Thuraisingam - S Thereasingem
Zubin Surkari - Z Shakira


England

Geraint Jones - G James
James Anderson - J Andorsson
Kevin Pietersen - K Patterson
Andrew Strauss - A Streass
Paul Collingwood - P Callongwoode
Andrew Flintoff - A Flantiff
Ashley Giles - A Galis
Stephen Harmison - S Hermason
Matthew Hoggard - M Higgart
Mark Butcher - M Batch
Graham Thorpe - G Thirp
Vikram Solanki - V Sulenki
Marcus Trescothick - M Triscathack
Michael Vaughan - M Vorner
Simon Jones - S James
Robert Key - R Kaye

India

Sourav Ganguly - S Gengoly
Virender Sehwag - V Sahwaq
Rahul Dravid - R Druvad
Anil Kumble - A Kemblar
Harbhajan Singh - H Songe
Sachin Tendulkar- S Tandelki
L Balaji - L Bulege
Zaheer Khan - Z Khone
Ashish Nehra - A Nuhre
Dinesh Mongia - D Mangear
Parthiv Patel - P Pitul
IK Pathan - I Pethon
Ajit Agarkar - A Agirker
Yuvraj Singh - Y Songe
Sachin Tendulkar - S Tandelki
Mohammad Kaif - M Kolef
VVS Laxman - V Luxmin

Kenya

Steve Tikolo - S Tokele
Maurice Odumbe - M Odambi
Aasif Karim - A Khurum
Alpesh Vadher - A Vidhir
Ravindu Shah - R Shir
Hitesh Modi - H Made
Brijal Patel - B Pitul
Martin Suji - M Soja
Tony Suji - A Soja
Thomas Odoyo - T Odiyar
Kennedy Otieno - K Oteanar
Joseph Angara - J Angire
Peter Ongondo - P Ongunde
David Obuya - D Obeye
Collins Obuya - C Obeye
James Kamande - J Kimonde

Namibia

Deon Kotze - D Kutzi
Andries Burger - A Bergar
Louis Burger - L Bergar
Sarel Burger - S Bergar
Morne Karg - M Korge
Daniel Keulder - D Kaldar
Bjorn Kotze - B Kutzi
Lennie Louw - J Leaw
Bryan Murgatroyd - B Mirgotreed
Gerrie Snyman - G Snomen
Stefan Swanepoel - S Swonepaal
Johannes van der Merwe - J van der Marwa
Burton van Rooi - B van Reej
Melt van Schoor - M van Scheer
Rudi van Vuuren - R van Veeran
Riaan Walters - R Wiltors

Holland

Roland Lefebvre - R Lafabvri
Luuk van Troost - L van Treesti
Daan van Bunge - D van Bang
Jacob-Jan Esmeijer - J Esmajor
Feiko Kloppenburg - J Klapponberg
Tim de Leede - T de Lood
Hendrik-Jan Mol - H Mill
Ruud Nijman - R Najmen
Klaas-Jan van Noortwijk - K van Naartwikke
Adeel Raja - A Rojo
Edgar Schiferli - E Schafarle
Reinout Scholte - R Schalti
Jeroen Smits - J Smyt
Nick Statham - N Stothem
Bas Zuiderent - B Zeadarant
Sebastiaan Gokke - S Gakki

New Zealand

Stephen Fleming - S Flameng
Nathan Astle - N Astlar
Shane Bond - S Binde
James Franklin - J Frinkler
Chris Martin - C Morten
Kyle Mills - K Meals
Brendon McCullum - B McCallen
Craig McMillan - C McMollen
Jacob Oram - J Oron
Michael Papps - M Phepps
Mark Richardson - M Racherton
Daryl Tuffey - D Toffee
Daniel Vettori - D Vittare
Matthew Sinclair - M Sanclear
Ian Butler - I Battler

Pakistan

Abdul Razzaq - A Rizziq
Yousuf Youhana - Y Yeahone
Inzamam-ul-Haq - I Al-Huq
Yasir Hameed - Y Homaad
Mohammad Sami - M Sume
Moin Khan - M Khone
Shoaib Akhtar - S Akhti
Fazl-e-Akbar - F e-Akbul
Imran Farhat - I Ferhit
Taufeeq Umar - T Umeri
Saqlain Mushtaq - S Mashtuq
Shabbir Ahmed - S Ahmad
Shahid Afridi - S Afrede
Shoaib Malik - S Mulak
Younis Khan - Y Khone

South Africa

Shaun Pollock - S Pullack
Mark Boucher - M Bauchar
Nicky Boje - N Bija
Boeta Dippenaar - B Dappienner
Graeme Smith - G Smythe
Herschelle Gibbs - H Gybb
Andrew Hall - A Hill
Jacques Kallis - J Kulles
Andre Nel - A Nail
Lance Klusener - L Kleasnar
Abraham DeVilliers - A DeVilears
Makhaya Ntini - M Ntone
Ashwell Prince - A Prints
Paul Adams - P Addons
Monde Zondeki - M Zandakey
Jacques Rudolph - J Randolf

Sri Lanka

Sanath Jayasuriya - S Joyeseriye
Marvan Atapattu - M Atepetto
Mahela Jayawardene - M Joyewordine
Kumar Sangakkara - K Sengekkoro
Russel Arnold - R Arnelde
Muttiah Muralitharan - M Merilitherin
Chaminda Vaas - C Vees
Dilhara Fernando - D Firnende
Upul Chandana - U Chindine
Tillakaratne Dilshan - T Dalshon
Nuwan Zoysa - N Ziyse
Saman Jayantha - S Joyonthe
Thilina Kandamby - T Kondemby
Nuwan Kulasekara - N Koloshakira
Farveez Maharoof - F Miheraaf
Rangana Herath - R Hireth

West Indies

Ramnaresh Sarwan - R Sirwen
Chris Gayle - C Goyler
Shivnarine Chanderpaul - S Chindarpool
Ricardo Powell - R Piwall
Sylvester Joseph - S Jusuph
Dwayne Smith - D Smythe
Ridley Jacobs - R Jecubbs
Ian Bradshaw - I Bridshow
Ravi Rampaul - R Rempall
Fidel Edwards - F Edvords
Tino Best - T Bust
Brian Lara - B Lara
Mervyn Dillon - M Dollan
Corey Collymore - C Callemere
Pedro Collins - P Callans

Zimbabwe

Alistair Campbell - A Cumpball
Heath Streak - H Stroik
Andy Blignaut - A Blagneat
Dion Ebrahim - D Ebreham
Sean Ervine - S Ervane
Andy Flower - A Flawyer
Grant Flower - G Falwyer
Travis Friend - T Freund
Douglas Hondo - D Handi
Douglas Marillier - D Morullear
Stuart Matsikenyeri - S Metsukanyari
Henry Olanga - H Olenge
Tatenda Taibu - T Teebo
Guy Whitall - G Whetoll
Craig Wishart - C Washert
Mark Vermeulen - M Varmealan


Link (http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55121)

Barny79
22-07-2005, 11:46
Anyone got theirs from Amazon today?
Just rang home and it's arrived :clap: That's my Friday evening sorted, a few beers and Brian Lara on the XBOX! :thumbs:

DB2k
22-07-2005, 11:50
theres pics on eurogamer of a bit that was removed from Brian Laras cricket which featured a naked female streaker..

john316
22-07-2005, 11:54
theres pics on eurogamer of a bit that was removed from Brian Laras cricket which featured a naked female streaker..

:lol: :notworthy :lol:

Got my copy today from Play - ramped it up to Test Match difficulty and it makes a lot of difference, espically once you play and miss a few times and the confidence dips. Restricted S.Africa to a 109/9 in a 20/20 game and previously, I'd have knocked that off with no real hassle. But I was all out for 67 after 19.2 overs - it was so tough to connect so you really have to work on the timing :thumbs:

TigaSefi
22-07-2005, 12:32
Sounds good, I might actually trade in a few old games and use my credit up in Gamestation. How much is it in Gamestation ?

john316
22-07-2005, 12:52
http://www.planetcricket.net/modules.php?name=Links&file=viewlinkinfo&id=371

The real name patch for BLIC (PC only) in case people haven't spotted it yet

JohnMac
22-07-2005, 13:23
Now what is the fun in a 17.4 run rate in a test match? :dork:

After the punishment the Australian bowlers and fielders put me through for the first week of playing Cricket 2005, "fun" doesn't even begin to describe what it was like when I beat Australia by 6 wickets at Lord's. ;)

However, those scores were attained by playing very aggressively to help me while I'm still learning how to bat. Playing like that is very risky and results in losing wickets quickly which is why I was bowled out after only 16 overs in the first innings. If you look at Trescothick's spider chart when he got 79, the run rate isn't quite as high and I was a bit more cautious. I would estimate that in order to get my first century I would need to bat even more conservatively than that which would decrease the run rate further but extend the number of overs in an innings considerably.

I was quite lucky with that Test Match really because if Australia had got 400+ per innings (using autoplay for bowling) I would have been in deep trouble batting like that. It is tempting to get some runs on the board and raise the batsman's confidence before the wrist spin/leg spin attacks start. But I learned something by watching the real Test Match yesterday when England's batsmen were in a similar situation and Boycott(sp) said that getting runs wasn't as important as not losing your wicket - weather the storm and absorb the difficult bowling attack so that you can carry on batting normally once the bowling changes.

GoblinUK
22-07-2005, 13:48
Can anyone post an xbox one if they do one.

Idle Child
22-07-2005, 15:52
Link (http://community.codemasters.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55121)
LOL, JohnMac, i started that thread on the Codies forum. :D

JohnMac
22-07-2005, 16:03
Doesn't look like I'll be playing Brian Lara International Cricket until Monday at the earliest because the postmen appear to be on strike round here until after the weekend. :(

I think I'll try to reach my first individual century score in Cricket 2005 tonight.

kuku
22-07-2005, 16:31
I can see Lara cricket beating the EA one;

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=60163

mattwakeman
22-07-2005, 16:33
I can see Lara cricket beating the EA one;

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=60163

:eek:

Its just not cricket old boy...

JohnMac
22-07-2005, 21:39
Anyone played Brian Lara International Cricket yet?

Barny79
22-07-2005, 21:48
Yeah, played it for the last 4 hours, on the xbox, plays very well, taking the easy option of village evel at the moment, and working my way up

slartybart
22-07-2005, 21:54
I got Brian Lara today and so far I'm finding it excellent, dived straight into a test match against Sri Lanka at county difficulty and I'm finding it a challenge. Bowled first and got out them all out for 298, line and length is rewarded and while spin bowling is a mystery so far it's realistic.

Batting at the moment and I'm 130-3, again only scratched the surface and my shot selection is limited. What I've found excellent is the CPU adapting to where you place your shots. I raced to 50 in a few overs finding boundries in the same places. The CPU soon adapted and now I'm getting bogged down with singles and rare 4's. It's excellent so far and realistic in the scoring. Muralitharan is challenging to play as well.

I gave up on EA Cricket in the end, just don't have the patience for it. But so far this one is fun, good bowling and batting is rewarded and it seems like a fair opponent when playing the computer. Just need to go a bit deeper and vary my shots and work on the bowling, especially spin.

JohnMac
22-07-2005, 22:37
Good to read you are both enjoying playing it. I'm glad I stuck with Cricket 2005 although I can appreciate why many people would prefer a pick up and play cricket game they could immediately get something out of. Due to the postmen being on strike here I don't think I'll get to play this until Monday evening.

Idle Child
23-07-2005, 01:44
I must support what slartybart is saying about the AI.

It does seem to exploit holes in the gameplayer's set up. For instance, when batting, the CPU will generally try and find holes in your fielding for 4s or 6s. My criticism is that i don't think the AI run as much as they could do for singles, as in - they will usually only run when it's a dead cert opportunity. While that adds a kind of profesionalism to the AI, it reduces your chances of running out their battsmen. Also when the AI were batting on village level, they don't seem to leave many balls either - they usually have a good swing.

For the life of me i can't figure out the bowling. I mean, i do actually know how the system works, but i've no idea where to place my shots for a wicket. I tried the practice "nets" feature, as Flintoff versus Ricky Ponting batting on "county" difficultly. But Ponting was hitting everything i was throwing at him. Only on "village" could i hit the stumps with a well placed Yorker. Otherwise, it's quite a hard task! Suppose a bit like in real life, but there must be knack to this that i just haven't found yet. I try to build up the bowlers confidence and get into a rutine, which i then change for the odd bal to fool the batmens, but this doesn't really work..?

As for the overall game though, i'm finding it quite good. A cricketting noob like me is actually interested in cricket because of this game. While the bowling is somtimes hard to time, and the AI battmens are quite agressive and hit a lot of balls, it presents a good challenge to get into. There are no directing throws to the stumps, throws are only to the wicket keeper's end and there's no pause replays from the start menu - but otherwise, i think this game is pretty sweet, and it's not a chore to play and enjoy.

Barny79
23-07-2005, 11:39
Anyone tried the classic games? Very good, games in black and white with old fashioned clothes and hair!

reggie
23-07-2005, 13:40
Hi, I was just wondering what the keyboard actions are, to bat and to ball?

What to push to hit the ball etc

I know of these :

S : Front foot shot.
W : Back foot shot.
D : Attacking.
D also serves for running, and pressing A cancels a run.

Not got an instruction book, i bought the game off a carboot and it came without one!
Cheers

JohnMac
23-07-2005, 14:20
I bowled 20 overs in Cricket 2005 this morning and limited Australia to only 38 runs but they only lost one wicket. The wicket fell with the first ball which I deliberately pitched short with a lot of movement evident in the line of the ball.

Bowling 1_1 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_1.jpg)
Bowling 1_2 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_2.JPG)
Bowling 1_3 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_3.jpg)
Bowling 1_4 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_4.jpg)
Bowling 1_5 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_5.jpg)
Bowling 1_6 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_6.jpg)
Bowling 1_7 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_7.jpg)
Bowling 1_8 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_8.jpg)
Bowling 1_9 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_9.jpg)
Bowling 1_10 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_10.jpg)
Bowling 1 Score (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling1_score.jpg)

I'll add a few more (badly taken) pictures I took to show different line and length of bowling. They aren't in the right order, just the order I get round to uploading them.

That's got to hurt!
Bowling 2_1 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling2_1.jpg)
Bowling 2_2 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling2_2.jpg)

Keeping the batsman on the back foot.
Bowling 3_1 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling3_1.jpg)
Bowling 3_2 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling3_2.jpg)
Bowling 3_3 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling3_3.jpg)
Bowling 3_4* (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling3_4.jpg)
Bowling 3_5 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling3_5.jpg)

Beating the batsman
Bowling 4* (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling4.jpg)
Bowling 5 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling5.jpg)
Bowling 6 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling6.jpg)

Forcing the batsman into defending his wicket rather than playing a shot
Bowling 7_1 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling7_1.JPG)
Bowling 7_2 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling7_2.JPG)
Bowling 7_3 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling7_3.JPG)
Bowling 7_4 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling7_4.JPG)
Bowling 8* (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling8.jpg)

Trying to force an edge to the slips
Bowling 9 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling9.jpg)

* This picture was OK until I resized it.

Bowling Screen 1 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling_screen1.JPG)
Bowling Screen 2 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling_screen2.JPG)
Bowling Screen 3 (http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/bowling_screen3.JPG)

If anyone wants me to do something similar for batting, let me know.

swanny
23-07-2005, 15:53
Hi, I was just wondering what the keyboard actions are, to bat and to ball?

What to push to hit the ball etc

I know of these :

S : Front foot shot.
W : Back foot shot.
D : Attacking.
D also serves for running, and pressing A cancels a run.

Not got an instruction book, i bought the game off a carboot and it came without one!
Cheers


Basic controls are in the readme on the DVD

JohnMac
24-07-2005, 00:10
My new best score with an individual batsman is 92 (Trescothick again).

http://www.john-mac.com/cricket2005/trescothick92.JPG

The difference this time is that I got that score without using the "six-hit" power button at all. As you can see many of the runs I got through the covers but there were runs to other parts of the field as well. When Trescothick was on 92 all of the slip catch fielders were moved to positions on the boundary, probably to try and avoid me getting a century. Unfortunately, I decided to play an edge through where the slips used to be; a shot I play a lot in one day games. I missed it and the ball hit the stumps. What a stupid mistake, I almost had the century.

Barny79
24-07-2005, 00:35
Think this thread has become Brian Lara Cricket 2005

Ono
24-07-2005, 08:55
played my first game on Cricket 2005 last night. I was England, opponents were USA.


Thet scored 132 in 10 overs.

I got bowled for for 2.


:nuts:

JohnMac
24-07-2005, 09:24
You got a better score than I got on my first go Ono.

john316
24-07-2005, 10:39
I got bowled for for 2.

:nuts:

:lol:

Kronik
27-07-2005, 12:04
Does anybody else play this with a PS2 pad on the PC?

I cant find an option to let me mess with the controls or at least see what each button does!

Ono
27-07-2005, 12:11
Hi, I was just wondering what the keyboard actions are, to bat and to ball?

Not got an instruction book, i bought the game off a carboot and it came without one!
Cheers

:suspect:

http://files.electronic-arts.com.au/assets/cricket2005/Cricket2005PCControls.pdf

john316
27-07-2005, 17:38
Does anybody else play this with a PS2 pad on the PC?

I cant find an option to let me mess with the controls or at least see what each button does!

You can't edit the control for some messed up reason that only EA can explain :gag:

mdex
28-07-2005, 10:53
I created a whole team with amazing stats and suprisingly it made the game a lot easier to play!!

Highest score of over 400

Bowled west indies out for 36

Now i have to try and play it with proper players!!