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horseflesh
25-11-2001, 22:37
OK, into the top 10 now.................
10. Goodfellas
9. Schindler's List
8. Blade Runner
7. It's a wonderful life
6. Gladiator (oh dear.............)
5. Some like it hot
So we still have SW/ESB, Shawshank, Godfather/II, Pulp Fiction, and what else????
Davester
25-11-2001, 23:04
Battlefield earth
can't you add up mate
you have listed 4 films there !
thats 1,2,3,4 and then some like it hot at 5
I would just like to say..what a bleedin cop out that was, Ok so Star wars is a good movie but how obvious was it that it would be no.1 COP OUT :argue: :brickwall
so has this program not made me want to watch films i haven't seen for ages like
ET
Pulp fiction
Godfathers (all on Sky Cinema next 3 days)
Reservoir Dogs
Star Wars Trilogy
Jaws
Gladiator
4. Pulp Fiction
3.Shawshank Redemption
2.Godfather 1 & 2
1.Star Wars & Empire Strikes Back
Last time i looked there were four films in the top 2 postions
:confused:
Spooky_uk
25-11-2001, 23:27
Originally posted by ROGER B
can't you add up mate
you have listed 4 films there !
thats 1,2,3,4 and then some like it hot at 5
:D
Must be past his bedtime ;)
jamie_rowe
25-11-2001, 23:41
:mad: :mad:
WHERE THE HELL WAS AMERICAN BEAUTY??!!
:mad: :mad:
William Shatners Wig
25-11-2001, 23:46
Where the hell were:
Ghostbusters
Miller's Crossing
Fight Club
Raiders Of The Lost Ark
The Commitments
This Is Spinal Tap
The Blues Brothers
Ben Hur
Das Boot
Twelve Monkeys
The Insider
Also what was going on with sequels?? The Three Colurs trilogy all got a mention, where Godfather's entry did not include Part 3 and Star Wars/Empire did not include Return Of The Jedi and Phantom Menace...
Surely if yer' gonna' use multiples, you should judge them by the whole lot and not just the best ones... You may as well have had them as seperate movies.... Hmmmm!!!
dtsrules
25-11-2001, 23:50
What happened to On The Buses then?
:(
Vinyl-Pants
25-11-2001, 23:51
What a disgrace this whole poll was...about 20 of the films were absolute anal excriment and where the hell were;
Bridge on the River Kwai
Gandhi
Indiana Jones (any of them!)
Full Metal Jacket
Deer Hunter
Heat
Platoon
and I suppose theres many contraversial possible entries like Forrest Gump and the more popularist films like Fight Club and Seven etc that were omitted.
But most shockingly of all;
Titanic was featured - I mean for gods sake! Titanic? But it grossed nearly 2 billion worldwide I hear you cry? Only because the likes of my sister and her freinds went to see it 5 times....
The fact that this travesty of modern cinema was featured at all soured the whole experience for me....
i bet if they do it in a year that little tosser Harry Potter will be in it
What really ****** me off about these kind of polls is that the newest film out at the time ALLWAYS gets into the top ten!!! While good, Gladiator is no *******n' way the 6th best film of all time!!! Its not even in the goddman top 100!!! :mad:
Mr Vampire
26-11-2001, 00:10
A cop out indeed. Much of the films seemed to be in there through box office takings rather than the film being great.
Was this a public vote though? If it was, give it to the proper critics:mad:
wabznasm
26-11-2001, 00:43
It did not accurately reflect the public's opinion because you could only choose from a list of films chosen by Channel 4, and the reason why certain films were not in the list (i.e, Indiana Jones), is because Channel 4 could not get the rights to show any clips.
Some of the choices were ridiculous though, I mean, Titanic?! Full Monty?!. To quote another film which probably wasn't in the top 100 (John Carpenter's The Thing), "You've gotta be **************** kidding!".
It could also to with the fact they had already filmed the responses to the entries. So for the public to vote for their own 100 would be a logistical nightmare......wait do i hear the words 'think ahead' being screamed i think i do. A better poll would have been started at the beginning of the year, then when the polls had closed..say august they went and filmed the responses they neede and then shown that. Not just rushed out another 'We love it cos its great' poll.
OOOhh my spleen needs a good venting. Wheres that play thread....*goes in search*
Fozzybear
26-11-2001, 08:01
Even with all the "what is THAT doing in there!?" sentiments, I think it was pretty good - certainly made me think about seeing a number of films that I haven't yet seen - such as The Godfather films, Goodfellas, It's A Wonderful Life, Casablanca, and so on.
Any film poll is going to spark controversy amongst fans, but if it gives good films a wider audience amongst the general public then it's done it's job.
But I don't remember seeing The Cannonball Run - what number was it?
:D
Someone's just kicked off a DVD Times Best Movie poll in the General Forums.
Just post your top ten films and we'll see what happens. I think if they pull this one off they'll deserve a medal !!!! :)
Mr Flibble
26-11-2001, 10:04
I'm really biting my lip here - just discussing the top 100 movies thing at work - people commenting on how TPM got slated - one reply : 'but whats wrong with it?'
I own the DVD - I enjoy the film, but it has SEVERE flaws in some places'
'There's none as blind as them what can't see'
If you just realise that these polls are utter ****** and just enjoy the clips of Goodfellas then you're laughing...
PS Pulp Fiction is easily the best film of all time...
IMO
Let's face it, this is just more cheapskate programme making, admittedly at it's most entertaining.
These 'Top 10/20/100' programmes are clearly the 'in thing' amongst broadcasters (especially Channel 4) - just a compilation of clips with celebs offering us their divine opinions. Must cost peanuts to produce.
I recognised the clips of Tom Robbins and Frank Darabont from the CH4 documentary that proceeded the last showing of Shawshank.
Paul Sorvino talking about Goodfellas (and the 'Why am I funny?' clip) was seen in 'I LOVE 1990'.
And so on.
Many of these top 100 films are soon to be shown of FILMFOUR. What does that tell you.
The fact that there was no Raiders (or Close Encounters, Ben Hur, Se7en, etc) HAD to be a rights issue.
And I still maintain that Brassed off was a MUCH better film than The Full Monty!!!
Wot no:
Wicker Man
Akira
Princess Mononoke
Spinal Tap
Shaolin Soccer
Profondo Rosso
Deadly Sausage Attack from Beyond The Stars
horseflesh
26-11-2001, 13:00
OK OK
I put up the post during an ad break, and just as i was about to post Some like it hot was announced as #5.
And i forget to change the rest of the post, that's what happened......
alexroebuck
26-11-2001, 13:51
Being John Malkovich?
Memento?
Babe? (I'm serious)
Clash of the Titans? (I'm not)
Why should "proper critics" get to decide what is the best movie of all time?
Why should the top films consist of intellectual, arthouse, indie or generally non-blockbuster movies?
If one is to undertake the generally pointless task of identifying the Greatest Movie of All Time (seeing as it is a matter of personal taste and therefore few people are likely to agree - mine is Dazed and Confused, for example), then the only realistic way to go about it is to find the movie that has provided the most enjoyment to the most people. Simple as that.
Hence, Star Wars deserves the 'title,' for what its worth. What else fulfils these criteria so well?
Morpheus2000
27-11-2001, 17:53
1. Star Wars / The Empire Strikes Back
2. The Godfather / The Godfather, Part 2
3. The Shawshank Redemption
4. Pulp Fiction
5. Some Like it Hot
6. Gladiator
7. It's a Wonderful Life
8. Blade Runner
9. Schindlers List
10. Goodfellas
11. Psycho
12. Jaws
13. Apocalypse Now
14. One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest
15. The Matrix
16. Casablanca
17. The Usual Suspects
18. Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
19. Citizen Kane
20. Raging Bull
21. ET
22. Taxi Driver
23. The Life of Brian
24. Singin' in the Rain
25. LA Confidential
26. The Wizard of Oz
27. 2001: A Space Oddysey
28. Kes
29. Vertigo
30. Lawrence of Arabia
31. Fargo
32. Gone with the Wind
33. Trainspotting
34. The Full Monty
35. The Graduate
36. Alien
37. The Silence of the Lambs
38. Withnail and I
39. The Great Escape
40. Toy Story
41. The Third Man
42. Four Weddings and a Funeral
43. The Sound of Music
44. Fitzcaraldo
45. Deliverance
46. The Good The Bad and The Ugly
47. Kind Hearts and Coronets
48. Chinatown
49. The Exorcist
50. Annie Hall
51. The Italian Job
52. Sunset Boulevard
53. The Jungle Book
54. Titanic
55. Jean de Florette / Manon des Sources
56. Dr. Strangelove
57. Rebel Without a Cause
58. Seven Samurai
59. A Matter of Life and Death
60. Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid
61. Secrets and Lies
62. Blue Velvet
63. La Dolce Vita
64. Spartacus
65. Metropolis
66. Bonnie and Clyde
67. King Kong
68. Get Carter
69. The Searchers
70. The Seventh Seal
71. Don't Look Now
72. Brief Encounter
73. M*A*S*H
74. The French Connection
75. Top Hat
76. The Producers
77. Three Colours Trilogy
78. Cabaret
79. Goldfinger
80. Snow White and the Seven Dwarves
81. The Gold Rush
82. High Noon
83. Saturday Night Fever
84. The Adventures of Robin Hood
85. Enter the Dragon
86. Breathless
87. Ice Cold in Alex
88. Battleship Potemkin
89. African Queen
90. The General
91. A Hard Day's Night
92. Way Out West
93. Henry V
94. Easy Rider
95. My Beautiful Launderette
96. Belle de Jour
97. The Bride of Frankenstein
98. Terminator
99. Saturday Night Sunday Morning
100. Do The Right Thing
This Top 100 Movies is a mockery of a sham of a mockery! Where's Aliens, Das Boot, The Deer Hunter, Die Hard, Planet of the Apes, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Scarface and Seven? :mad:
But why on earth is Braveheart missing? A way better film than Gladiator! :argue:
Gary Couzens
27-11-2001, 20:42
Originally posted by Mozley
Why should "proper critics" get to decide what is the best movie of all time?
Because they don't assume that "of all time" means mid-70s onwards and only in the English language? (Mind you, C4's list does range a bit wider than that.) Also, by the nature of their job, they've seen more films, and a wider range of films, than most people.
The trouble with any "top" list voted on by the public - at least, all those I've seen - is that it is filled with works that are only a few years old. They may turn out to be great, or they may turn out to be passing fads - until they undergo the test of time, there's no way of telling.
Why should the top films consist of intellectual, arthouse, indie or generally non-blockbuster movies?
Does <i>The Godfather</i> (I and II) fit that description? Or <i>Singin' in the Rain</i>? Two examples of many that would be on most "proper critics" lists.
If one is to undertake the generally pointless task of identifying the Greatest Movie of All Time (seeing as it is a matter of personal taste and therefore few people are likely to agree - mine is Dazed and Confused, for example), then the only realistic way to go about it is to find the movie that has provided the most enjoyment to the most people. Simple as that.
Hence, Star Wars deserves the 'title,' for what its worth. What else fulfils these criteria so well?
<i>Gone With the Wind</i> and <i>Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs</i>? Both of these have been seen by far more people in the cinema than <i>Star Wars</i>.
John Hodson
27-11-2001, 21:19
Pointless, pointless, pointless...one man's Citizen Kane is another man's Citizen Smith.
Let's have The Best 100 Westerns, 100 Best Shark Films (in Cheers, they once voted for the Sweatiest Movie ever made), The Best 100 Movies Screened on a Wednesday Afternoon (in Smethwick), but most of all let's have the Best 100 Films you like (and every list will be different, God bless 'em).
But even in my wildest imagination, even if 100 monkeys were pounding at 100 typewriters in the C4 voting room, never, ever did I think they would come up with Star Wars as The Best Movie in The Galaxy. I had to smile.
No, someone, somewhere thinks Howard The Duck is the best movie ever made - and who am I to argue?
---
So many films, so little time...
dave miller
27-11-2001, 23:12
How can any list of the top 100 movies not include "The Quiet Man". This was John Ford's favourite movie and is near the top of my favourites too as is Armaggedon, Top Gun and Jerry Maguire
to name only a few obvious ommissions.By the same token how can any list of the top 100 movies include "Breathless"?
Bump because it was on this evening and I did a quick search (because I was interested)
An interesting show for the clips and soundbytes from movie makers (but not Graham Norton or rent-a-quotes like James "I have this job because I am good, not really through a family connection or anything" King).
I find watching classic clips of good movies somewhat pleasant.
Joe Pasquale
28-12-2002, 23:54
Originally posted by Morpheus2000
15. The Matrix
16. Casablanca
:lol: Crack smoking peeps at C4, or were they allowing wet-dreamin' teens to vote for this list or summat?
And the reason that Gladiator made the top 10 is because the programme originally aired over a year ago IIRC when the DVD's were being sold by droves. If they did it again I doubt it'd be anywhere near as high... Which pretty much proves why all these kind of lists do is provide a forum to argue about how **** they are. ;)
Originally posted by danrees
Bump because it was on this evening and I did a quick search (because I was interested)
I've been watching this tonight and didn't realise it was a repeat... it was particularly odd because I recall voting in the original online poll and thought tonight that it seemed to have taken rather a long time to compile the results and appear on TV. :nuts:
Evidently I had better things to do than watch TV last Xmas season, unlike this year... :rolleyes: ;)
Shakey21
29-12-2002, 00:05
Originally posted by Morpheus2000
34. The Full Monty
35. The Graduate
42. Four Weddings and a Funeral
49. The Exorcist
If it was the top 100 worst films ever made I could quite agree with these placings.
Johnny Vodka
29-12-2002, 09:25
Originally posted by Shakey21
If it was the top 100 worst films ever made I could quite agree with these placings.
Especially with Star Wars at No. 1!! :lol:
paulmillsbls
29-12-2002, 14:20
Originally posted by John Hodson
Let's have The Best 100 Westerns, 100 Best Shark Films (in Cheers, they once voted for the Sweatiest Movie ever made), ...
Rocky 2! no, Body Heat! no wait,
Cool Hand Luke!
Ragnarak
30-12-2002, 00:20
the programme was a repeat from the one they originally showed last year, maybe that was why a few newer films weren't in it, but i agree they left out some classics and included some **** films :/
of course, you are all missing the entire point of THIS top 100...
at the time, there was a special film season on both channel 4 and film 4,
lots of the films that should've made the top 20 they didn't have the rights for... so they didn't include them at all.
so its completely rigged - and false.
rainbird
30-12-2002, 10:18
I don't think anyone should be surprised at C4's list given the restrictions laid down by that company. They were/are absolutely desperate to attract a youthful - ie under 25 - audience for the sake of their advertisers. Seems to me that C4's Top 100 list fairly faithfully reflects that age group's favourite movies.
After all, if a bunch of teenagers/students want to vote 'Gladiator' as the sixth greatest movie of all time - ahead of 'The Third Man' or 'One Flew Over The Cuckoo's nest', then good for them but I wouldn't take it too seriously;)
bazkeane82
30-12-2002, 19:20
where was leon?, i'm sure c4 would have the rights to advertise it because they have shown the whole movie on c4 about 4 years ago
not necessarily.. film rights lapse or are for a certain number of showings so Leon may not have been possible at that point..
so many decent films missing.. not a real "open" list.
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