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What no thread? :suspect:
Im hoping for a decent game tonight, hopefully we will be talking about the football not the bitching or food fights :D
Arsenal win as well :D
Agreed, except it'll be a Utd win ;)
morleyian
01-02-2005, 19:07
Another away game for the Scousers breeds fear into their supporters :help:
Come on Arsenal!!!
Anticipating a 2-2 draw though with Chelski almost guarenteed as champions (as if they aren't already)
joconnor
01-02-2005, 19:24
The winner of this match will win the prem.
Chelski still have to play both Utd and Arsenal, lose them both and the race is on again. Chelski are also still due their bad patch soon (I reckon easter)
The winner of this match will win the prem.
Chelski still have to play both Utd and Arsenal, lose them both and the race is on again. Chelski are also still due their bad patch soon (I reckon easter)
:lol: ok......
Obviously hoping for a draw in this particular game, also want to see Dowie's Palace pull off a win and really help their survival odds.
What was going on there between Keane and Vieira :suspect:
Almost fighting in tunnel before kick off. I think this'll be tasty
bobbyboy uk
01-02-2005, 20:01
What was going on there between Keane and Vieira :suspect:
not sure but it looked very intresting, whats the betting on one of them being sent off within 10 minutes of kick off ;)
I wonder what odds u can get on Keane being sent off :D
he's gonna noble viera :n0rty:
Radiohead
01-02-2005, 20:02
Who'd be Graham Poll tonight. He's got his hands full and could do with some of the UN force out there.
Radiohead
01-02-2005, 20:06
The players have GOT to behave like grown-ups tonight - this is getting pathetic now. Already Man Utd surround Poll at the first free-kick.
cheating scum cole at it again
Ashley Cole - Olympic Gold diving, should have been booked.
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 20:09
Tut Tut Mr Cole - hot on the heels of Mr Vieira trying to start a ruck in the tunnel, you produce a dive every bit as bad as the one Rooney was pilloried for in the last game. Still, at least n00noo will stop complaining about THAT dive now anyway.
Does someone want to tell Lauren its football they're playing, not netball ie a contact sport. and perhaps he should stop running to teacher. Pathetic.
1-0 arsenal:( viera from corner
Still, at least n00noo will stop complaining about THAT dive now anyway.
I don't think you know him too well :lol:
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 20:21
I don't think you know him too well :lol:
It was wishful thinking =(
If Arsenal had to score, why couldn't it have been Henry? At least then my fantasy football would get 5 points =(
At least rooney got me 3 points there =)
COME ON!!!!!!!111111 1-1 giggs!!!
Bill Carr
01-02-2005, 20:26
Fingers crossed for a draw, loads of aggro and some long suspensions :D
(spot the Chelsea fan)
Adam Thirnis
01-02-2005, 20:27
It's a disgrace Graham Poll was selected to ref this game. David Dein must have called in some favours for that one. :oh-hum:
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 20:29
Listen at them whining about carroll bnot being booked when the arse player pushed him out of the area.
Fingers crossed for a draw, loads of aggro and some long suspensions :D
(spot the Chelsea fan)
Nope, only the Abramovic fan
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 20:35
Loving this game. :D
Are you playing either team soon because there may be some suspensions!
Are you playing either team soon because there may be some suspensions!
No.
Its nice to see two tops teams in a high pressure game and I can be all neutral.
Nice goal Bergkamp.
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 20:44
No.
Its nice to see two tops teams in a high pressure game and I can be all neutral.
Nice goal Bergkamp.
Its nice to see you being a neutral ;)
Missed the goal - at least tell me Henry got the assist!
Missed the goal - at least tell me Henry got the assist!
He did sir. :)
Nope, only the Abramovic fan
most pathetic comment of the evening
most pathetic comment of the evening
indeed
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 20:53
He did sir. :)
The blow is softened ever so slightly! (I accepted long ago that Utd were fighting for 2nd or 3rd, whereas my fantasy football team is still in it for the big prize ;)
The blow is softened ever so slightly! (I accepted long ago that Utd were fighting for 2nd or 3rd, whereas my fantasy football team is still in it for the big prize ;)
This game really could go either way.
Manu need to keep Rooney on the pitch though.
Quality game so far. I walked away for a minute to grab a beer from the fridge: did Rooney get a yellow? He was dangerously close to it before, and during that last incident they were talking about him walking a tightrope.
It's ironic the commentator is predominantly a boxing one. :D
Great half, absolutely flew by. Referee has been a bit fussy but there's been some nice football played and at an unbelievable pace.
BlueDwarf
01-02-2005, 20:58
Excellent game so far, just a shame about the Arsenal diving.
WiggyWog
01-02-2005, 20:58
Graham bloody poll :|
As soon as he was assigned for this match I knew there'd be trouble. The worst ref around.
great game - i think Rooney may come off at half time, he is walking a tightrope :D
©™~UKJEZZA~™©
01-02-2005, 20:59
Fletcher off and Saha on surely?
How can we start a MUST WIN game with 1 up front!! :shrug:
Arsenal are easier the better side and should be walking it, they may pay for not taking a bigger lead.
definate penalty on pirez
WiggyWog
01-02-2005, 21:02
Fletcher off and Saha on surely?
How can we start a MUST WIN game with 1 up front!! :shrug:
Hopefully. Fletcher has been a passenger so far.
1 point is worthless at this stage. Attack Attack Attack :thumbs:
Fletcher off and Saha on surely?
How can we start a MUST WIN game with 1 up front!! :shrug:
You seemed to open up the defense pretty easily for the first goal.
There's enough support from Giggs and Ronaldo (not to mention scholes) upfront imo. The game is still anyones.
[QUOTE=andybhoy]....hot on the heels of Mr Vieira trying to start a ruck in the tunnel....QUOTE]
:oh-hum: You must've seen more than the rest of us then, because it was already kicking off when the cameras went to the tunnel. Oh hang on, with your Man U glasses on you can see that Keane was the complete innocent. :razz: :cuckoo:
Anyway, great game. Lets hope Rooney ends up having an early bath the cocky little EDIT, and Arsenal score 3 or 4 more goals without reply from man U. :clap:
I'd be amazed if someone didn't get sent off in the second half.
definate penalty on pirez
Yeah big shame to see the always-honest Pires denied a genuine penalty :D
Great half, absolutely flew by. Referee has been a bit fussy but there's been some nice football played and at an unbelievable pace.
To be fair, I think he's going to extremes to keep things under control.
As a neutral, apart from the penalty, he's done well. Could have easily sent Rooney off for the tirade after he was booked but has obviously taken the circumstances into account.
Scholes had been in-effective. I hope Utd go 4-4-2 with Saha and make a real fist of it.
Yeah big shame to see the always-honest Pires denied a genuine penalty :D
:lol:
Come on Palace!!! :notworthy
was a bit worried to see they had a sending-off so early but hopeful now :thumbs:
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 21:09
This game really could go either way.
Manu need to keep Rooney on the pitch though.
I'm hoping for another 3 goals but tbh I can't see how Ronney is going to escape being sent off. The ref considered booking him, then booked him, then considered sending him off. With 45 to play....
Excellent game though.
Edit: looking at sportinglife - it looks like Liverpool could get a bucketload in the 2nd half. I hope not (nothing personal swanny) - I need Charlton to win - I hate football predictors - I always get so close and then liverpool screw me!).
Edit: looking at sportinglife - it looks like Liverpool could get a bucketload in the 2nd half. I hope not (nothing personal swanny) - I need Charlton to win - I hate football predictors - I always get so close and then liverpool screw me!).
Liverpool in scoring lots of goals shock :eek:
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 21:19
:oh-hum: You must've seen more than the rest of us then, because it was already kicking off when the cameras went to the tunnel. Oh hang on, with your Man U glasses on you can see that Keane was the complete innocent. :razz: :cuckoo:
Anyway, great game. Lets hope Rooney ends up having an early bath the cocky little EDIT, and Arsenal score 3 or 4 more goals without reply from man U. :clap:
ROFLMAO! :lol: :notworthy
There's nothing like being chastised for bias by someone who in the same breath writes about how he wants Utd players sent off and loads of goals past them. Yes, Paul, you're a paragon of unbiasedness. I have read your many vitriolic posts on the liverpool thread - about how much you hate Utd and everyone associated with the club - so you will forgive me if I find your chastisement amusing.
Back ON topic - I think we'll be looking for a few more goals now - the pace has not decreased. When we get to around 60 minutes, it'll probably slow down but hopefully not!
2-3 Ronaldo.
What a game.
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ronaldo 2-3!!!!!
Can we have a massive punch-up now please?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bill Carr
01-02-2005, 21:25
Nope, only the Abramovic fan
:lol: :notworthy
That Arsenal goalie is quality. :lol:
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 21:27
How can we start a MUST WIN game with 1 up front!! :shrug:
Ye have so little faith my son! even if we go on to lose, you can't argue with 3 goals at highbury.
Morientes scores for Liverpool.
MOTD is gonne be gr8 tonight:D:D:D
hope they show the drama in the tunnel!!
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 21:31
Morientes scores for Liverpool.
Second week in a row I've been robbed of £250 and third time by the scousers =(
MOTD is gonne be gr8 tonight:D:D:D
hope they show the drama in the tunnel!!
Its not on until tomorrow.
Second week in a row I've been robbed of £250 and third time by the scousers =(
:lol:
Pires ineffective. Times for Reyes, I think.
This is a great game considering nothing really rests on it (save 10 days off in the Summer for the players i.e Champs League qualification or not)
simonmac
01-02-2005, 21:33
Its not on until tomorrow.
11:15 bbc 1
Silvestre off for a head butt
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 21:35
Game is going only one way now (though berkamp should have been off too).
11:15 bbc 1
Stupid TV and Satellite guide :( They have Rocky III at that time. :shrug:
Silvestre off for a head butt
right in front of the ref - what a pillock :cuckoo:
simonmac
01-02-2005, 21:38
12 v 10
Meow!
I'd be amazed if someone didn't get sent off in the second half.
I actually though the second half had been better with regards to players behaving themselves and sticking to playing football. Silverstre was stupid to do that right with Poll standing just a few yards away.
AdamBrunt
01-02-2005, 21:39
12 v 10
Please don't tell me you think Silvestre didn't deserve a red card :eek:
Oh and it's now 2-1 to Liverpool :notworthy
morleyian
01-02-2005, 21:39
Earnshaw! Thank god for that with all those 1-1s around in the predictions comp ;)
EDIT: Cock :brickwall
pompeyfan
01-02-2005, 21:42
Good win for Pompey tonight - 2-1 over Boro, and we needed that to stop the decline.
Please don't tell me you think Silvestre didn't deserve a red card :eek: :notworthy
Nope. Just would like the ref to have booked both teams for fouls not just one.
Nope. Just would like the ref to have booked both teams for fouls not just one.
C'mon - You're winning (and it's a great 2nd half by Utd) but Poll missed a blatant penalty for Arsenal in the 1st half along with Bergkamp's breakaway given offside...
That said, I'm sure Chelsea are laughing their ----s off.
MICON does not speak for most Utd fans! Poll has been fussy but made bad decisions equally (so far ;))!
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 21:53
MICON does not speak for most Utd fans! Poll has been fussy but made bad decisions equally (so far ;))!
I don't think he speaks for any! Poll has never been a bad ref for us - certainly not against Arsenal. (prior to this I believe his 3 games with this fixture has seen 2 Utd wins and a draw).
If we don't win this, it won't be poll's fault that is for sure.
Bapapapa
01-02-2005, 21:53
Earnshaw! Thank god for that with all those 1-1s around in the predictions comp ;)
EDIT: Cock :brickwall :lol:
Gotta be happy with a point after that.. :help:
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 21:54
Heinze and Oshea - I love you both =)
Kudos to Utd ; a great 2nd half.
What a finish from O'Shea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
OMG Oshea is becoming a goal machine!!!!!!!!!
4-2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Citysmith
01-02-2005, 21:57
Well done Manchester United, that's the first double over Arsenal in many a year. Well Done they deserved it
Bolton you gits, you absolute gits.
5 points to zero. :cry:
Welshlad
01-02-2005, 21:59
Cracking goal from JOS. Glad the arse are gonna lose now after Cole's pathetic dive at the start. If that'd been El Hadji Diouf diving like that everyone would have gone bonkers!
The Irony being that Ronaldo didn't go near cole all game because he knows cole has the beating of him in all probability. He goes to the other flank, Giggs kills cole and Ronaldo kills Lauren
Oh and LOL at more comedy Arsenal goalkeeping!!!
SlayerSyd
01-02-2005, 22:00
Well i guess Man U still have enough money to buy officials, doubt they have the money to buy the Prem. Quite obvious they can't handle other clubs having money. Unlucky to all the armchair fans....does that include all?
One day football might return to the people, and not the biggest wallet.
So if/when Chelsea win tomorrrow, they extend their lead.
And looking at their forthcoming fixtures, well it's over.....
AdamBrunt
01-02-2005, 22:02
A very good performance from Man U in the second half. Well worth their victory.
Not quite sure how it put them back in the title race though (or Arsenal for that matter had they won) ?? If Chelsea win tomorrow then they are 11 points ahead with one less game to go compared to this morning when they were only 10 points ahead ??
Well done Manchester United. Arsenal are not out of it yet!!!
Well done Manchester United, that's the first double over Arsenal in many a year. Well Done they deserved it
It pains me to say it but Man U were fab, they still don't know when their beaten.Arsenal were very good too, in fact the game was a sheer pleasure to watch and lived up to the hype for once.
It's just a shame that both teams couldn't lose. :(
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 22:04
It's just a shame that both teams couldn't lose. :(
:lol:
My laughter isn't sarcastic or mocking, that was genuinely funny :)
As a neutral, a great game to watch.
I thought Arsenal bossed the first half and deserved their lead and maybe more but Utd were transformed 2nd half and put in a great performance and did enough to win easily.
Well i guess Man U still have enough money to buy officials, doubt they have the money to buy the Prem. Quite obvious they can't handle other clubs having money. Unlucky to all the armchair fans....does that include all?
One day football might return to the people, and not the biggest wallet.
Keep taking the tablets :nuts: :lol:
Fantastic game, and goes to show that the title race is not over yet (unfortunately for me). Confirms what has seemed apparent for a while now, that United are the remaining threat to Chelsea. Although I was hoping for a draw, and a United win is more dangerous for Chelsea in the long run, pleased to see Arsene choke, as his diatribes in the last couple of days have shown his lack of grace to the fullest.
Keep taking the tablets :nuts: :lol:
:lol:
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 22:08
A very good performance from Man U in the second half. Well worth their victory.
Not quite sure how it put them back in the title race though (or Arsenal for that matter had they won) ?? If Chelsea win tomorrow then they are 11 points ahead with one less game to go compared to this morning when they were only 10 points ahead ??
It's not that the team winning tonight would suddenly have more of a chance than yesterday, but rather that losing tonight would probably mean it was all over for that team. So the team winning tonight kept their slight chance of winning - that's all.
This result doesn't mean anything really as Chelsea have more or less won the title.
WiggyWog
01-02-2005, 22:13
Its a big ask to catch Chelsea now, but stranger things have happened. We've been unlucky with injuries this season (especially Ruud), but we have palyed some immense football since Rio's return.
Next season we'll defo win the league :p
It's not that the team winning tonight would suddenly have more of a chance than yesterday, but rather that losing tonight would probably mean it was all over for that team. So the team winning tonight kept their slight chance of winning - that's all.
...but if you look at when Chelsea play Arsenal / Utd, it's at the end of April. The title could be over by then.
Radio 5 were suggesting that Chelsea could afford to lose 5 games towards the end of the season and still garner enough points to win the title(stats based).
I guess if they don't slip up in the next month or so, it's definately done.
ROFLMAO! :lol: :notworthy
There's nothing like being chastised for bias by someone who in the same breath writes about how he wants Utd players sent off and loads of goals past them. Yes, Paul, you're a paragon of unbiasedness. I have read your many vitriolic posts on the liverpool thread - about how much you hate Utd and everyone associated with the club - so you will forgive me if I find your chastisement amusing.
:clap: But my whole point was that none of us could have known who kicked it all off down in the tunnel, as the cameras were'nt showing what happened when it did. You however assumed that viera was the guilty party, which he may have been, but equally so may have Keane. :)
Absolutely spot on about my absolute hatred of Utd, and everyone associated with them (Rooney's worse because he's a former bluenose too), and yes, of course i will forgive you. ;)
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 22:17
...but if you look at when Chelsea play Arsenal / Utd, it's at the end of April. The title could be over by then.
If people take a moment to read my earlier posts I quite clearly stated that I accepted long ago that Utd wouldn't win the league this season.
:clap: But my whole point was that none of us could have known who kicked it all off down in the tunnel, as the cameras were'nt showing what happened when it did.
Well, Keane's on Sky in a mo, and I'll assume he'll just say it was the usual pre-match banter as it always has been and always will be....
....except we have TV camera's now.
Who cares. I'd rather have some spice to a game rather than one of those "oh, it's like a chess match" stale confrontations they have on the continent.
SlayerSyd
01-02-2005, 22:19
Keep taking the tablets :nuts: :lol:
And just where were you sitting in all these games Sam? Have enough so called football fans at work...armchair morelike?
I support my local teams, otherwise those of lesser money. Amazing how many armchair fans these teams have. Glory hunters, have no idea of football, or stragegies involved.
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 22:20
:clap: But my whole point was that none of us could have known who kicked it all off down in the tunnel, as the cameras were'nt showing what happened when it did. You however assumed that viera was the guilty party, which he may have been, but equally so may have Keane. :)
Keane was the one reacting angrily so it's a fairly safe bet to assume that Vieira tried a few mindgames. It sounds like he was telling players he'd kick them about the park in revenge for Utd supposedly doing the same last time.
Absolutely spot on about my absolute hatred of Utd, and everyone associated with them (Rooney's worse because he's a former bluenose too), and yes, of course i will forgive you. ;)
I knew you would ;)
Oh dear, what a dreadful display in the 2nd half. We need Toure and Gilberto fit and another top-level striker available for when Henry is not scoring. Gifted them the first and third goals and denied a definite penalty. Ah well, Chelsea still going to be Champions so at least it's only academic for this season.
EDIT: And why are people debating what happened in the tunnel? No-one will ever know what really happened and Vieira and Keane will obviously have considerably biased viewpoints.
Keane: Patrick Vieira is 6'4" and was having a go at Gary Neville, saying 'Come and have a go'
:lol:
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 22:21
And just where were you sitting in all these games Sam? Have enough so called football fans at work...armchair morelike?
I support my local teams, otherwise those of lesser money. Amazing how many armchair fans these teams have. Glory hunters, have no idea of football, or stragegies involved.
:lol:
If you bit into a lemon, it'd be the lemon that made a face. :clap:
Sam goes to more matches than most of the people who post in this forum.
If people take a moment to read my earlier posts I quite clearly stated that I accepted long ago that Utd wouldn't win the league this season.
In 9 minutes, you've gone from a "slight chance of winning" to no chance of winning.....despite winning ;)
Keane: Patrick Vieira is 6'4" and was having a go at Gary Neville, saying 'Come and have a go'
:lol:
:lol: He'll be off to tell 'sir' he's getting bullied by the big French lad. ;)
SlayerSyd
01-02-2005, 22:23
:lol:
If you bit into a lemon, it'd be the lemon that made a face. :clap:
Sam goes to more matches than most of the people who post in this forum.
Indeed, what a life changer. Missed the sarcasm Mr Armchair?
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 22:25
Indeed, what a life changer. Missed the sarcasm Mr Armchair?
:lol: You're really hurting over something. Your team weren't even playing and Utd have you bleating like Kyro. :lol:
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 22:26
In 9 minutes, you've gone from a "slight chance of winning" to no chance of winning.....despite winning ;)
With respect, I was explaining the commentators and not myself.
Oh dear, what a dreadful display in the 2nd half. We need Toure and Gilberto fit and another top-level striker available for when Henry is not scoring. Gifted them the first and third goals and denied a definite penalty. Ah well, Chelsea still going to be Champions so at least it's only academic for this season.
Arsenal desperately need to eject Almunia in the short term - he is perhaps one of the worst keepers I've seen this year and doesn't seem to anything going for him at all! And what can you say for Cygan? :lol:
And with Campbell now looking like he is crocked again, the Arse are really close to just hitting the fan in the PL now :nuts:
I'll hand it to Utd though - the damn sods just keep coming like the T-1000 even if they don't have the players they had 5-6 years ago :mad: :mad: :mad:
Keane: Patrick Vieira is 6'4" and was having a go at Gary Neville, saying 'Come and have a go'
:lol:
Obivously Keane was having none of it and told Vieria that. :lol:
Great interviews by Sir Alex and Keane :lol: :notworthy
It appears Viera has had a go at Neville's attempt to grow facial hair...
...( I may be reading between the lines here)...
Anyway, said it before, I'll say it again, a fantastic 2nd from Utd. Didn't think they had it in them but it was oh-so-more straightforward than I thought it would be.
andybhoy
01-02-2005, 22:29
I'll hand it to Utd though - the damn sods just keep coming like the T-1000 even if they don't have the players they had 5-6 years ago :mad: :mad: :mad:
Thank god for that, Blank would be about 42 now! ;)
No post-match title concession from Arsene? Thought he'd be straight on to hand the title to Chelsea, congratulate United for such a strong display, and wish them luck in the final battle? :?: :?:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Well i guess Man U still have enough money to buy officials, doubt they have the money to buy the Prem. Quite obvious they can't handle other clubs having money. Unlucky to all the armchair fans....does that include all?
One day football might return to the people, and not the biggest wallet.
http://www.homepages.hetnet.nl/~berkhoff/pictures/tumbleweed.gif
Are you new to stand up comedy?.
:suspect: :n0rty: :lol:
Well I must say United were the better team in the second half, even if Arsenal were robbed of a few decisions. Congratulations on your deserved victory. ;)
Well I must say United were the better team in the second half, even if Arsenal were robbed of a few decisions. Congratulations on your deserved victory. ;)
In all fairness i don't think the ref was going to give a penalty either way tonight after whats been said in the paper recently...
:)
Tristan H
01-02-2005, 22:39
Fair play to Utd they won that fair and square. They looked better all over the pitch and made Arsenal's defence look like a complete joke.
Almunia is officially a joker and Pascal Cygan is one of the most awful lumbering defenders I have ever seen. I also thought Lauren went AWOL and PV4 once again failed to take a hold of the midfield. Some major defensive signings are needed to get the team back on track.
Must say that at 35 Dennis Bergkamp was magnificent - undoubtedly one of the greatest footballers of the last decade. Shame the same can't be said about the Arsenal defenders.
I also have to say that Cole was a disgrace - no need for that dive whatsoever. :nono:
Pascal Cygan is one of the most awful lumbering defenders I have ever seen.
Which maybe true....
...but I thought he had a decent game tonight. Campbell, however, may have had one of those "I don't trust him" nights as he seemed to blitzing all over the shop in an attempt to help out whilst leaving other areas gaping.
Must say that at 35 Dennis Bergkamp was magnificent
Agreed.
I also have to say that Cole was a disgrace - no need for that dive whatsoever. :nono:
Again, I agree.
In a week where Everton / Boro have both admitted an FA charge over being over-zealous i.e. not controlling their players where a ball was clearly loose, then I hope that that dive incurs twice whatever both clubs incurr.
Must say that at 35 Dennis Bergkamp was magnificent - undoubtedly one of the greatest footballers of the last decade. Shame the same can't be said about the Arsenal defenders.
I also have to say that Cole was a disgrace - no need for that dive whatsoever. :nono:
Was amazed that Cole did not get booked for that dive :cuckoo: I think he was lucky that it was so early in the game.
Bergkamp looked like a spring chicken, far and away Arsenal's best player.
I thought the whole game changed when United took Bergkamp out of it - he was magnificent in the first half, but absent in the second.
Great performance by United and a deserved win - but what a great game of football. I know Chelsea are far and away the most consistent team this season, but both United AND Arsenal would have done them tonight.
It will probably make no odds in terms of the title this year, but it's great to see that both teams are still up for it - that's five games in a row that Arsenal have failed to beat us, and we've won the last three.
And four months ago they were calling them Invincible!
I know Chelsea are far and away the most consistent team this season, but both United AND Arsenal would have done them tonight.
The difference this year is that Arsenal / Chelsea / Utd are all capable of fielding a team that you'd say "yeah, that's a Championship winning team".
But, beyond that, both Arsenal and Utd struggle. I don't need to name them, but there are players in both squads that would not make Chelsea's first or second teams.
The difference isn't great between squads, but the team Chelsea put out on Sunday was suppose to be a shock selection...8 (?) or so players rested but if you look at the team it's nowhere near a squad team - it's good enough for a top 4 finish in its own right.
That team selection was : Cudicini, Johnson, Huth, Terry, Bridge, Cole, Smertin, Jarosik, Duff, Gudjohnsen, Kezman.
The difference this year is that Arsenal / Chelsea / Utd are all capable of fielding a team that you'd say "yeah, that's a Championship winning team".
But, beyond that, both Arsenal and Utd struggle. I don't need to name them, but there are players in both squads that would not make Chelsea's first or second teams.
The difference isn't great between squads, but the team Chelsea put out on Sunday was suppose to be a shock selection...8 (?) or so players rested but if you look at the team it's nowhere near a squad team - it's good enough for a top 4 finish in its own right.
That team selection was : Cudicini, Johnson, Huth, Terry, Bridge, Cole, Smertin, Jarosik, Duff, Gudjohnsen, Kezman.
Johnson, Huth,Cole, Smertin, Kezman. have not set the world alight. Not seen anything of Jarosik.
Chelsea have been very fortunate with injuries, it may have been different if the likes of Terry, Lampard or Duff had been out for a few weeks.
it may have been different if the likes of..... ....Duff had been out for a few weeks.
I think he was. Robben too.
tknapton
01-02-2005, 23:28
Duff was out for the first three weeks. Robben was out for the first nine. Whilst I'm a Man U supporter I still think Chelsea would have won as their defence is far superior and Utd wouldn't have had the same chances.
Oh well another title defence another year without a championship.
Fair play to United they played well second half and deserved the victory for the second half performance alone.
Arsenal need a tuning up, sorry but we dont have anything like any strength in depth or any class when needed, i was down the pub watching it and i was mouthing off to myself cause we just cant hold leads, how many times has it happened? Chelsea this year, i can remember loads of times its happened in the past, we need to learn from George Graham a while back LEARN HOW TO DEFEND! look a Chelsea solid as a rock.
A goalie is a must, Almunia looks like hes taken some crazy pills before each game, hes a muppet.
Im sooooooooooo frustrated cause after last season i thought we would build on this and go from strength to strength but it hasnt happened, we need new WORLD CLASS players to freshen the team up, otherwise we can look forward to finishing third every season.
I can't even blame the officials in tonight's match, Utd beat us fair and square. Bergkampy had an excellent game, seemed he was the only one up for it.
I don't think Utd will catch Chelsea, but they will come second. Lehmann will be rubbing his hands after tonight.
Well i guess Man U still have enough money to buy officials, doubt they have the money to buy the Prem. Quite obvious they can't handle other clubs having money. Unlucky to all the armchair fans....does that include all?
One day football might return to the people, and not the biggest wallet.
????? what a edit :lol:
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unrealnils
01-02-2005, 23:57
well played to UTD, linesmans ruined it with the pen and the Dennis run........
Damn Alumenia for his crap keeping, damn Toure and his elbow on Shearer and damn us for not getting £20m+ for PV and using that to strengthen the squad :(
Johnson, Huth,Cole, Smertin, Kezman. have not set the world alight. Not seen anything of Jarosik.
Chelsea have been very fortunate with injuries, it may have been different if the likes of Terry, Lampard or Duff had been out for a few weeks.
Duff was out for the first few weeks of the season, Drogba and Robben also had lengthy injuries
edit: as has Carvalho, our first-choice centre-half, dragging our first-choice left-back Gallas into his place due to another long-term injury to Huth (who has just got another long-term injury on his return)
Adam Thirnis
02-02-2005, 00:22
Yeah Chelsea have had their fair share of injuries. Crucially though, for me their 3 most important players - Lampard, Terry and Makelele - have always been available for selection - and Mourinho never leaves them out of a game that matters.
unrealnils
02-02-2005, 00:41
Dont forget Peter Cezh hes awesome ...........
Second best goalie in the world..........
He has been since the start of the summer euro champs :(
edit im not saying he hasn't got injuered as most normal keepers (pool !) dont get injuered much just saying he is most important too
©™~UKJEZZA~™©
02-02-2005, 00:53
Ye have so little faith my son! even if we go on to lose, you can't argue with 3 goals at highbury.
That's right, wait till were ahead before pulling me up on that! ;)
Still, until Ronaldo played more central in the 2nd half, we were far too lightweight in the centre i felt.
Fantastic win, just hope we can put even the slightest bit of pressure on Chelski. Until the summer at least, were on a level playing field with them, it will be interesting to see how they react now.
I guess we'll find out tomorrow night against Blackburn.
Yeah Chelsea have had their fair share of injuries. Crucially though, for me their 3 most important players - Lampard, Terry and Makelele - have always been available for selection - and Mourinho never leaves them out of a game that matters.
That's very true - I'm so glad that Maka has been receiving more of the praise that he deserves this season: after a season of acclimatization to English football he has proven to be an absolute worldbeater in terms of his contribution to a winning club: Chelsea's stability in comparison with the flakiness of Madrid has proven that. Ally that with the fact that JT is homegrown and Lamps was bought before the Abramovich revolution, to the great amusement of most observers at the time, and you have the central source of continued admiration amongst most Chelsea fans for what is now happening.
Nando is off the mark woohoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
coming to getcha Blue Noses
Nando's gonna getcha!
Nando's gonna getcha!
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