C4 100 Greatest Albums Of All-Time 17/4/05 8pm

[George vader]

C4 are collecting votes for a 100 Greatest Albums Of All-Time show.

In 2005, to celebrate the greatest albums ever made, Channel 4 will be bringing you a four-hour celebration of these classic recordings, as we relive our favourite songs and reveal why and how each album came about.

But what are your Pet Sounds? The Beatles or the Stones? Oasis or Blur? The Clash or The Bee Gees? Joni Mitchell or Alanis Morissette?

Our panel of music industry experts have had the painstaking task of selecting 125 classic albums for you to choose from - a list that contains classic works from the likes of Elvis Presley, The Who, Led Zeppelin, The Sex Pistols and Dusty Springfield, right through to current chart acts The Streets and Scissor Sisters.

So, take a look at our nominations, dig them out of your collection, cue them up, and get voting for your ten favourite albums

Direct link here (http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/G/greatest/albums/index.html)

The Libertines anyone? :doh:

[Mr Majestik]

C4 only did this a few years ago.


They should ban albums less than 5 years old as well or else we'll end up with Keane in the list.

[Goblin]

from them nominations I went for The Beatles, John Lennon, Darkness and Scissor Sisters. I actually found it hard to pick 10 that I'd heard, which is why 2 newer albums where picked.

Is Blood Sugar Sex Magik regarded as the Chillis best album? I'd rather Californication.

[sariel2002]

Is Blood Sugar Sex Magik regarded as the Chillis best album? I'd rather Californication.

By far. Everything about that album is amazing.

It looked difficult to choose ten with the abscence of The Wall,The Bends or A Northern Soul.

[LouBarlow]

There are some hilarious records in that list :lol:

[DM]

C4 only did this a few years ago.


They should ban albums less than 5 years old as well or else we'll end up with Keane in the list.

They aren't on the list.

The Darkness
:cuckoo:

[lancebarker]

No pearl jam ten at least i wont have to watch the show now.

[Johnny Vodka]

So is this the public's or CH4's 100 favourite albums? Suffice to say, I ain't going to even bother...

[mullethead]

Classic (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=classic)

adj.

1.
a. Belonging to the highest rank or class.
b. Serving as the established model or standard: a classic example of colonial architecture.
c. Having lasting significance or worth; enduring.

2.
a. Adhering or conforming to established standards and principles: a classic piece of research.
b. Of a well-known type; typical: a classic mistake.

3. Of or characteristic of the literature, art, and culture of ancient Greece and Rome; classical.

4.
a. Formal, refined, and restrained in style.
b. Simple and harmonious; elegant: the classic cut of a suit; the classic lines of a clipper ship.

5. Having historical or literary associations: classic battlefields of the Civil War.

n.
1. An artist, author, or work generally considered to be of the highest rank or excellence, especially one of enduring significance.

2. A work recognized as definitive in its field.

3.
a. A literary work of ancient Greece or Rome.
b. classics The languages and literature of ancient Greece and Rome. Used with the.
c.One that is of the highest rank or class: The car was a classic of automotive design.

4. A typical or traditional example.

5. Informal. A superior or unusual example of its kind: The reason he gave for being late was a classic.

6. A traditional event, especially a major sporting event that is held annually: a golf classic.

The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
Scissor Sisters - Scissor Sisters
Robbie Williams - I've Been Expecting You
The Libertines - The Libertines

:cuckoo:

Where's Master of Puppets or the Black Album?

[jmdomain]

123. 'The White Stripes - Elephant (2003)
Recorded on old instruments and using old technology to capture an original rock 'n' roll sound. Ex-husband and wife duo Jack and Meg White created hits including Seven Nation Army and The Hardest Button to Button.'

I thought they were brother and sister?

Laughable list as well with a strange selection of albums. Who were their music experts? Pete Waterman? :cuckoo:

[The Bear]

Radiohead - Ok Computer??????????

It's a good album, but is no way a match for The Bends. The media hype for that album was completely unjustified IMO, which is the only reason it is on the list.

I'd go as far as to say The Bends is probably my favourite album of the 90's.

[The Bear]

I thought they were brother and sister?Nope. Married then divorced. You can find pics of both documents if you Google.

[AndyWilson]

I've just learned to accept that if the Beatles don't win this kind of thing then that bunch of Apartheid supporters Queen will, so I don't get worked up about other people's lack of taste....

[arkham]

Wheres number of the Beast?

[bazkeane82]

that album list is rubbish

i just voted for the ones i own or owned


bjork
air
chemical bros
prodigy
radiohead
beatles x2
sat night fever
smiths
stone roses

[plasterman]

There are some hilarious records in that list :lol:
This lot could never be called great.
2. Air - Moon Safari
3. Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill
4. Alicia Keys - Songs in a Minor
25. Coldplay - Parachutes
28. The Darkness - Permission to Land
33. Dido - No Angel
34. Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms
35. Dizzee Rascal - Boy in da Corner
37. Duran Duran - Rio
43. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
44. Fatboy Slim - You've Come a Long Way, Baby
47. Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Welcome to the Pleasuredome
48. George Michael - Faith
51. The Human League - Dare!
53. The Jam - All Mod Cons
58. John Lennon - Imagine
63. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
65. The Libertines - The Libertines
66. Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - Rattlesnakes
69. Madness - One Step Beyond…
70. Madonna - Like a Prayer
76. Missy Elliott - Miss E... So Addictive
77. Moby - Play
79. New Order - Technique
84. Oasis - Definitely Maybe
85. Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory
86. Outkast - Speakerboxxx / The Love Below
91. The Police - Synchronicity
94. Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
100. REM - Automatic for the People
101. Robbie Williams - I've Been Expecting You
106. Saturday Night Fever - The Original Movie Soundtrack
107. Scissor Sisters - Scissor Sisters
116. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
122. The Verve - Urban Hymns
123. The White Stripes - Elephant

[jolt]

I agree with you on almost all of those, except maybe Dire Straits.

[The Boogerman]

I agree with you on all of those, except The Jam - All Mod Cons.

English Rose and Down In theTubestation are great tracks.

[agnetha]

This lot could never be called great.

37. Duran Duran - Rio

Oi :mad:

I have to say I'm glad Rio is finally getting the critical recognition I think it deserves.

Overall, not a bad list but at times very lazy (Blue, Automatic For The People - I don't think they're the best albums Joni and REM respectively have released) and some of the choices questionable - is there anyone who would call The Fat Of The Land the Prodigy's best album? Yes, Like A Prayer's in but where's Ray Of Light?

But... Channel 4 in yet another definitive top 100 list shocker - it's as bad as Q these days.

[mjb1975]

Can't believe they've gone for The Fat Of The Land and not Music For The Jilted Generation....

[Goblin]

This lot could never be called great.
2. Air - Moon Safari
3. Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill
4. Alicia Keys - Songs in a Minor
25. Coldplay - Parachutes
28. The Darkness - Permission to Land
33. Dido - No Angel
34. Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms
35. Dizzee Rascal - Boy in da Corner
37. Duran Duran - Rio
43. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
44. Fatboy Slim - You've Come a Long Way, Baby
47. Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Welcome to the Pleasuredome
48. George Michael - Faith
51. The Human League - Dare!
53. The Jam - All Mod Cons
58. John Lennon - Imagine
63. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
65. The Libertines - The Libertines
66. Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - Rattlesnakes
69. Madness - One Step Beyond…
70. Madonna - Like a Prayer
76. Missy Elliott - Miss E... So Addictive
77. Moby - Play
79. New Order - Technique
84. Oasis - Definitely Maybe
85. Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory
86. Outkast - Speakerboxxx / The Love Below
91. The Police - Synchronicity
94. Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
100. REM - Automatic for the People
101. Robbie Williams - I've Been Expecting You
106. Saturday Night Fever - The Original Movie Soundtrack
107. Scissor Sisters - Scissor Sisters
116. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
122. The Verve - Urban Hymns
123. The White Stripes - Elephant
Lennon - Imagine could never be called great? :eek: :nono:

[Mr Majestik]

Lennon - Imagine could never be called great? :eek: :nono:


All the Lennon solo albums are a bit ropey.

[ohood]

I would say that list (mostly) was a bit ropey, dragging out all the tired old 'safe ones' and throwing in a few obvious classic ones for good measure. It's depressing, but I know I'll end up watching this on telly and shouting at it for not being good enough... I am weak.

[Jimbo]

The one that always gets me in these polls is Stevie Wonder's 'Songs In The Key..', Now I'm Stevie's biggest fan (pre-80's obviously) and 'Songs...' has some killer tracks on it but it's far too sprawling and has far too many dodgy fillers. 'Talking Book' is by far his crowning glory.

Anyways, I'd agree that there are some hilarious entries in there but you come to expect these things. However, I did actually find some that would probably be at the very least in my own personal top 50. So, I've done my bit and went for :-

De La Soul - '3 Feet High...'
Kate Bush - 'Hounds Of Love'
Massive Attack - 'Blue Lines'
Nick Drake - 'Five leaves left'
Cure - 'Disntergration'
Prince 'Sign O The Times'
Stone Roses - 'Stone Roses'
Nirvana - 'Nevermind'
Beastie Boys - 'Pauls Boutique'
Jimi Hendrix - 'Are You Experienced'

But....where's MILES DAVIS???

[KRW]

I bet the Buff Medways aren't on there, so I'm not even going to look. Taught the White Stripes everything they know.

What a load of toss. You get to choose from a tiny list so whats the point?

Jon, you looked at the list, were Gin Palace on there? :D *grumbles*

[Johnny Vodka]

But....where's MILES DAVIS???

Miles Davis is jazz and the public don't like jazz. ;)

Where's Ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space?

Why do CH4 always restrict who you can vote for in the first place in these things?

Mind you, left to the general public, you might get an even worst list with Westlife or something making an appearance.

[agnetha]

Why do CH4 always restrict who you can vote for in the first place in these things?
Because they've already recorded the z-list celeb talking head quotes and need to be able to slot them in.

Rather than guessing what the top ten will be, it will probably be more fun to guess which 'celebs' will be on reminiscing about how they queued up outside HMV to buy Sgt Pepper when they weren't even born at the time...

[plasterman]

which 'celebs' will be on reminiscing about how they queued up outside HMV to buy Sgt Pepper when they weren't even born at the time...

Cue CBB winner Kenzie(walking round a studio limping like the hard mofo that he is), ...Yo bruv dis iz like de sounds dat..blahblah..me mum......blahblah....anywayz props to ma mans the beatles..yeah.

[Cockeye]

I've just learned to accept that if the Beatles don't win this kind of thing then that bunch of Apartheid supporters Queen will, so I don't get worked up about other people's lack of taste....

Surely rather harsh?

Without turning this into a political debate, playing Sun City is not necessarily an endorsement of Apartheid.

[Mr Majestik]

Surely rather harsh?

Without turning this into a political debate, playing Sun City is not necessarily an endorsement of Apartheid.


No, just greed.

[GregB]

Surely rather harsh?

Without turning this into a political debate, playing Sun City is not necessarily an endorsement of Apartheid.

Endorsement or not it was a disgraceful thing to do

There was an excellent article about this very issue in last Friday's Guardian http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/fridayreview/story/0,12102,1389455,00.html

[plasterman]

Can't believe they've gone for The Fat Of The Land and not Music For The Jilted Generation....

Nope, The Prodigy experience for me knock seven shades poo out of their other albums.

[Winner]

Because they've already recorded the z-list celeb talking head quotes and need to be able to slot them in.

Rather than guessing what the top ten will be, it will probably be more fun to guess which 'celebs' will be on reminiscing about how they queued up outside HMV to buy Sgt Pepper when they weren't even born at the time...

Stuart Marcone
Vernon Kaye
June whatserface off T4
Paul Ross
Paul Gambachinni
and some Chav to discuss how the music of Dizee Rascal changed his life
:doh:

doh! nearly forgot the queen of top 100 lists, Kate Thornton

[agnetha]

Stuart Marcone
Vernon Kaye
June whatserface off T4
Paul Ross
Paul Gambachinni
and some Chav to discuss how the music of Dizee Rascal changed his life
:doh:

doh! nearly forgot the queen of top 100 lists, Kate Thornton
Emma Jones, Gina Yashere, Jamie Theakston, thingy Hemingway, and a billion so-called 'comedians' no-one's ever heard of.

[agnetha]

Sun City
Only decent charity ensemble single ever.

Oh, wrong thread... nay mind...

[Stevie G]

Why do CH4 always restrict who you can vote for in the first place in these things?


It says on the CH4 site to let them know if there's any not included that should be. Is it worth emailing them? :thinking:

:doh: No, probably won't take the blindest, even if they actually get through to someone....! Ignore me!

I voted for the best 10 I could find in that lot, but it lets you choose five suggestions when you vote. I suggested;

pixies - surfer rosa
smiths - hatful of hollow
portishead - dummy
muse - absolution
ride - going blank again

Shame you can't add more without voting again!

Perhaps you can! If you copy the url from when you add your suggestions then submit, it lets you go back to the url afterwards. Get posting!

Peeps may want to refer back to this older thread if they posted in there!
http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=296519&page=7&pp=20&highlight=perfect+albums

[jmdomain]

What a load of toss. You get to choose from a tiny list so whats the point?

Jon, you looked at the list, were Gin Palace on there? :D *grumbles*

Do you think they'd put the album by one of the most exciting rock bands to come out of Britain in the last few years in the list?

Nup, course not. Muppets lead the way at Channel 4.

[Citysmith]

I am being Stoopid or is AC/DCs Back in Black not on that list!!!!

It's sold by the bucket load and is class

[the_daddy]

glad to see the oasis lads in the list, best album - defo maybe - easy

[MagicBoy]

So Channel 4 plan to do the 100 Greatest and give us only 125 cherry picked albums to choose from? They can't even pick the best Albums from the Artists on the list - REM and Radiohead for example.

I'm surprised there's no Britney Spears and Busted on there...

[Panavision]

123. 'The White Stripes - Elephant (2003)
Recorded on old instruments and using old technology to capture an original rock 'n' roll sound. Ex-husband and wife duo Jack and Meg White created hits including Seven Nation Army and The Hardest Button to Button.'

I thought they were brother and sister?


They are brother and sister unless they say otherwise, which they haven't.

[jolt]

Perhaps they're from Alabama.

[jolt]

It looks to me like a list of classic critically acclaimed albums with some "popular with the public" ones thrown in to give it a more mass appeal interest.

[jmdomain]

:lol:

[profondorossoargento]

So Channel 4 plan to do the 100 Greatest and give us only 125 cherry picked albums to choose from? They can't even pick the best Albums from the Artists on the list - REM and Radiohead for example.

I'm surprised there's no Britney Spears and Busted on there...


Nah, give C4 some credit, at least they didn't take the ITV route of assuming everyone wants to hear Britney, Busted and all that pop idol rubbish, maybe they didn't pick the best albums by the artists, but at least the artists are mostly credible, with a few notable exceptions.

[gburnsid]

Rattlesnakes is absolutely flawless, and one of the few on there I agree with. I voted for it anyway.

This lot could never be called great.
66. Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - Rattlesnakes

[plasterman]

Rattlesnakes is absolutely flawless, and one of the few on there I agree with. I voted for it anyway.

It's all about opinion's,mines is that it aint a "great".

[Az]

Would have to go with The Smiths, Nirvana, Pixies,The Cure, Jimi Hendrix.

[George vader]

It's on this Sunday, from thecustard.tv:

• 8.00pm The 100 Greatest Albums Channel 4 to midnt
Even though the same channel conducted a similar poll about five years ago, the fact the average viewer has a memory of three years has enabled the compilation of another pointless poll which will see The Beatles occupying much of the Top 10 like tar on a smoker’s lungs. Contributions come from Michael Stipe, Paul Weller, James Brown, Lou Reed, Ozzy Osbourne, Duran Duran, Kevin Rowland of Dexys Midnight Runners, Johnny Marr of The Smiths, The Human League, Public Enemy, Slash of Guns 'n' Roses, De La Soul, Yoko Ono, Arthur Lee of Love, Talking Heads' David Byrne, Sex Pistols' manager Malcolm McLaren, The Libertines :oh-hum: , Shaun Ryder and Bez of The Happy Mondays, Brian Wilson from The Beach Boys, Dave Gilmour of Pink Floyd and Terry Hall from The Specials

[Idle Child]

This lot could never be called great.
2. Air - Moon Safari
3. Alanis Morissette - Jagged Little Pill
4. Alicia Keys - Songs in a Minor
25. Coldplay - Parachutes
28. The Darkness - Permission to Land
33. Dido - No Angel
34. Dire Straits - Brothers in Arms
35. Dizzee Rascal - Boy in da Corner
37. Duran Duran - Rio
43. Eminem - The Marshall Mathers LP
44. Fatboy Slim - You've Come a Long Way, Baby
47. Frankie Goes to Hollywood - Welcome to the Pleasuredome
48. George Michael - Faith
51. The Human League - Dare!
53. The Jam - All Mod Cons
58. John Lennon - Imagine
63. Lauryn Hill - The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill
65. The Libertines - The Libertines
66. Lloyd Cole and the Commotions - Rattlesnakes
69. Madness - One Step Beyond…
70. Madonna - Like a Prayer
76. Missy Elliott - Miss E... So Addictive
77. Moby - Play
79. New Order - Technique
84. Oasis - Definitely Maybe
85. Oasis - (What's the Story) Morning Glory
86. Outkast - Speakerboxxx / The Love Below
91. The Police - Synchronicity
94. Prodigy - The Fat of the Land
100. REM - Automatic for the People
101. Robbie Williams - I've Been Expecting You
106. Saturday Night Fever - The Original Movie Soundtrack
107. Scissor Sisters - Scissor Sisters
116. The Streets - A Grand Don't Come For Free
122. The Verve - Urban Hymns
123. The White Stripes - Elephant
:lol: Oh really? And what could?

[plasterman]

:lol: Oh really? And what could?
I've listed 36 albums out of the official 125,so thats 89 album that I think are worthy of the title "great".

Like everyone it's all down to personal taste.

[LouBarlow]

I've listed 36 albums out of the official 125,so thats 89 album that I think are worthy of the title "great".

Like everyone it's all down to personal taste.

I'd agree with you on all, barring The Jam record...

[GoblinUK]

Weird that parachutes is in their and AROBTTH isnt.

[plasterman]

I'd agree with you on all, barring The Jam record...

Fair do,I do think it's a good album though.

[Rollo_Tomassi]

Where's Ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space?I heard the superb title track again yesterday, and it reminded me just how good that album is. To choose 100 from a list of 125 is a joke really... why not just let people submit their own choices :|

[SIMON ADEBISI]

Automatic For The People How could you say this is not a great album:?: They don't come much better.

[SimonI]

Why do they have to supply a list in the first place? Are we not capable of supplying our own entries? Pre-defined lists always make me suspicious, like there's some agenda going on :suspect:

Although it might be just a technical issue...?

Personally I'd vote for the debut album by Quella Vecchia Locanda but then that's maybe because I'm listening to it right now :)

[ohood]

No Gang of Four (ALOT of bands sound like them at the moment it seems) or XTC either (I say this as I am a recent convert, well, recently discovered I love both groups...) They'd deserve to be in there over some of the more questionable entries...

[theredrooster]

Look, it's all more than likely a fix anyway.

Clearly they will only give you the options for albums where they have plenty of footage and comments.

In a similar vein, do you think the poll will be "as voted", or do you think they will switch allbums around depending upon how much material they have? These shows tend to rattle through the earlier albums and then show lot's more footage and talking heads when you get down to the top 20. I would wager a bit of switching goes on once all the votes are in as we can't have more footage and comment on album number 12 than album number 1. That's just my opinion for what it's worth (not a lot).

[sigur]

This lot could never be called great.
2. Air - Moon Safari


Call me a philistine but i think that album is a modern classic :shrug:

[ohood]

Call me a philistine but i think that album is a modern classic :shrug:
Tis a most excellent album. Air's more recent efforts (well, 10000hz Legend) wasn't very good. But Moon Safari is fantastic.

[Robin Davies]

I couldn't find MARQUEE MOON by Television. Presumably there's a misprint on the list :?:

[George vader]

What no Teenage Fanclub-Grand Prix or Ride-Going Blank Again??

Two classic British guitar albums, and where's AC/DC's-Highway To Hell??

[vonbash]

No pearl jam ten at least i wont have to watch the show now.

Someone else with taste! :)

[RasTa]

OI
Air album is a classic aswell. But not number two or top 20 imo

[Edwardo Catflappo]

No Pink Floyd, The Wall! This list really is farce!

[SIMON ADEBISI]

Anything presented by that muppet Carr is a farce.

[elkiedee]

Of those listed, I quite like a few of the others including Imagine, not so much the title track though, but probably would have voted for

David Bowie (2) Ziggy Stardust and Hunky Dory - Ziggy's probably my favourite then there's quite a lot I like equally
Doors - though I've gone off it a little and prefer LA Woman to this first LP
Joni Mitchell, Blue - though I admit it's a lazy choice
Lou Reed, Transformer - very lazy choices here though, I loved New York
Velvet Underground & Nico

Kirsty MacColl is a terrible omission - probably Kite

I would have liked to vote for Elvis Costello or Bob Dylan but am not as familiar with particular LPs as some of their others

and I have lots of personal favourites which are nowhere to be seen

I assume current availability to encourage advertising and sales from this would be criteria too.

Luci

[Reno]

Tis a most excellent album. Air's more recent efforts (well, 10000hz Legend) wasn't very good. But Moon Safari is fantastic.

With the exception of two tracks 10000hz Legend was indeed poor, but Talkie Walkie was a return to form. Much as I like them, I'm not sure any Air album would make my top 100 though.

[LeftHandedGuitarist]

No Pearl Jam?
Only one Queen album?
Only OK Computer, where's The Bends?
Led Zeppelin IV? No thanks, they've done much better

I don't know why I keep getting excited about watching these C4 'greatest' programs. Once again they've just gone for the most popular over what may actually be the best. If it was really talking about the greatest albums there would be things like:

Silverchair - Neon Ballroom
A Perfect Circle - Mer de Noms
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral / The Fragile
Pearl Jam - Vitalogy / Binaural / Yield
Queen - Sheer Heart Attack
etc, etc...

These are albums that actually gel and flow and mean something, as opposed to a collection of songs with a few hit singles on it.

Must say though I am pleasantly surprised to see they included Jeff Buckley. Although I don't find the Grace album particularly listenable, I can admit he deserves a special place.

And I don't think Nirvana's Nevermind is worthy of anything.

[GoblinUK]

I would bet everything i own on in being Radiohead

[Borofan]

Fleetwood Mac's Rumours only at no.62 :brickwall

[Idle Child]

OK COMPUTER grabs the top spot.
I thought it would, too.

[Az]

I would bet everything i own on in being Radiohead

'Lucky' you didnt make that bet.

[Harry May]

Typical, laughable, cheap TV.

They should at least have the honesty to call the show Favourite Albums Of Tiny Minority Of Channel 4 Viewers.

It seemed like they got the whole thing backwards and muddled up.

[The Bear]

Can't believe Led Zep IV was so low!

[Creamstick]

No Guilded Palace of Sin, no The Basement Tapes, no The Band, no Live at San Quentin, no Honeyman, no Small Change, no Gris-Gris, no Raw Power, no Yoshimi Battles The Pink Robots, no Trouble Man.

Not my top 100 albums.

In fact, I'd probably only include a handful of the ones on the show in my top 200 albums.

But then, I do have a lot of albums.

[EdgeOfVictory]

I actually have 65 of these... but it wouldn't even be close to my list. and dido?!

[Goblin]

so did the Beatles win?

I gave up watching these Top 100 shows after watching Monty Pythons Parrot Sketch getting knocked off the top-spot by Little Britan.

[mjb1975]

I think the highest Beatles effort was Sgt Pepper at about 8.

Radiohead - OK Computer 'won' it.

[Goblin]

why's that not suprising, glad I never watched it all now.

[Johnny Vodka]

I actually have 65 of these... but it wouldn't even be close to my list. and dido?!

All of the albums were pre-selected by ch4 anyway, so it wasn't a proper public vote as such... I don't know if that's a good or bad thing. I suppose it could have been worse. Were Keane included? ;)

[Az]

I'm actually glad it's OK Computer, i mean much rather that than anything else, and it actually deserves the top spot.

[GarethH]

I'm actually glad it's OK Computer, i mean much rather that than anything else, and it actually deserves the top spot.

OK Computer is a fantastic album, not sure whether it should have got No.1 but its certainly a top 10!

[madstu]

Where was Bat out of Hell - no 86!!! Thats a joke, but I do agree with the winner.

[madstu]

here is the link to the final list

http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsites/G/greatest/albums/results.html


RADIOHEAD - OK Computer
U2 - The Joshua Tree
NIRVANA - Nevermind
MICHAEL JACKSON - Thriller
PINK FLOYD - Dark Side of the Moon
OASIS - Definitely Maybe
THE BEATLES - Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
MADONNA - Like a Prayer
GUNS N' ROSES - Appetite For Destruction
THE BEATLES - Revolver
R.E.M. - Automatic for the People
THE BEATLES - The White Album
QUEEN - A Night at the Opera
COLDPLAY - Parachutes
OASIS - (What's the Story) Morning Glory
ALANIS MORISSETTE - Jagged Little Pill
LED ZEPPELIN - Led Zeppelin IV
THE VERVE - Urban Hymns
JIMI HENDRIX - Are you Experienced
THE SMITHS - The Queen Is Dead
JOHN LENNON - Imagine
RADIOHEAD - The Bends
BOB MARLEY AND THE WAILERS - Exodus
THE STONE ROSES - The Stone Roses
SIMON AND GARFUNKEL - Bridge Over Troubled Water
BJORK - Debut
THE DOORS - The Doors
ABBA - Arrival
MICHAEL JACKSON - Off the Wall
DURAN DURAN - Rio
SEX PISTOLS - Never Mind the ******** Here's the Sex Pistols
DAVID BOWIE - The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
THE BEACH BOYS - Pet Sounds
JOY DIVISION - Closer
THE ROLLING STONES - Let It Bleed
BLUR - Parklife
BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN - Born to Run
BILLIE HOLIDAY - Lady Sings the Blues
THE WHITE STRIPES - Elephant
BLACK SABBATH - Paranoid
THE SPECIALS - Specials
THE ROLLING STONES - Exile on Main Street
FRANK SINATRA - Songs for Swingin' Lovers!
THE CLASH - London Calling
THE PRODIGY - The Fat of the Land
THE VELVET UNDERGROUND - The Velvet Underground and Nico
DIRE STRAITS - Brothers in Arms
PIXIES - Doolittle
ARETHA FRANKLIN - I Never Loved a Man the Way I Love You
THE LIBERTINES - The Libertines
HAPPY MONDAYS - Pills 'N' Thrills and Bellyaches
PATTI SMITH - Horses
THE WHO - Tommy
LOU REED - Transformer
BOB DYLAN - Blood on the Tracks
PRINCE - Sign 'o' the Times
DIDO - No Angel
AIR - Moon Safari
ELTON JOHN - Goodbye Yellow Brick Road
THE JAM - All Mod Cons
JEFF BUCKLEY - Grace
FLEETWOOD MAC - Rumours
MOBY - Play
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS - Blood Sugar Sex Magik
THE POLICE - Synchronicity
JONI MITCHELL - Blue
CURTIS MAYFIELD - Superfly
ELVIS PRESLEY - The Sun Sessions
OUTKAST - Speakerboxxx/The Love Below
PULP - Different Class
KRAFTWERK - Trans-Europe Express
MASSIVE ATTACK - Blue Lines
BECK - Odelay
STEVIE WONDER - Songs in the Key of Life
KATE BUSH - Hounds of Love
TALKING HEADS - Fear of Music
EMINEM - The Marshall Mathers LP
MARVIN GAYE - What's Going On
GEORGE MICHAEL - Faith
SATURDAY NIGHT FEVER - The Original Movie Soundtrack
PRIMAL SCREAM - Screamadelica
JOHN COLTRANE - A Love Supreme
LOVE - Forever Changes
PAUL SIMON - Graceland
NICK DRAKE - Five Leaves Left
MEAT LOAF - Bat Out of Hell
DUSTY SPRINGFIELD - Dusty in Memphis
DE LA SOUL - 3 Feet High and Rising
THE STROKES - Is this It
MADNESS - One Step Beyond...
ROBBIE WILLIAMS - I've Been Expecting You
NEIL YOUNG - After the Gold Rush
PUBLIC ENEMY - It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
BLONDIE - Parallel Lines
THE EAGLES - Hotel California
JAMES BROWN - Sex Machine
THE STREETS - A Grand Don't Come for Free
DEXY'S MIDNIGHT RUNNERS - Searching for the Young Soul Rebels
ROD STEWART - Every Picture Tells a Story
The HUMAN LEAGUE - Dare!

[Toge]

wheres jamiroquai? imbeciles!

[James45]

Where's Prince - Purple Rain?!

[FLCL]

You know what, if you think about it it's not exactly a definitive chart anyway. Voted not only by channel 4 viewers but by channel 4 viewers that can be bothered to register a vote for one of thier dullard 100 greatest easy ways to make TV programme without even having to think about anything more than rounding up a few celeb heads.

I think the chart speaks for itself.

[Steve Parkinson]

It's even more like a Q Top 100 list than the real thing.

[Rollo_Tomassi]

Surprised The Bends made it so high, considering it wasn't even on the original list!

[kiran_mk2]

Very pleased OK Computer won. I prefer The Bends, but OK is the better album -it's just that I find you have to listen to the whole thing to really appreciate it. Rest of the chart is a bit of a joke though: Oasis made the 6th best album of all time? I think not.

[meat puppet]

No Pearl Jam?
Only one Queen album?
Only OK Computer, where's The Bends?
Led Zeppelin IV? No thanks, they've done much better

I don't know why I keep getting excited about watching these C4 'greatest' programs. Once again they've just gone for the most popular over what may actually be the best. If it was really talking about the greatest albums there would be things like:

Silverchair - Neon Ballroom
A Perfect Circle - Mer de Noms
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral / The Fragile
Pearl Jam - Vitalogy / Binaural / Yield
Queen - Sheer Heart Attack
etc, etc...

These are albums that actually gel and flow and mean something, as opposed to a collection of songs with a few hit singles on it.

Must say though I am pleasantly surprised to see they included Jeff Buckley. Although I don't find the Grace album particularly listenable, I can admit he deserves a special place.

And I don't think Nirvana's Nevermind is worthy of anything.

Can you substantiate that last comment in light of your strange choices for greatest albums (and I own those albums too apart from Silverchair and cant see why they should be included).

I notice that there is a ground swell of dislike for Nirvana from people who got sickened by the constant airplay of 'Teen Spirit' (even Kurt would'nt play it anymore). Most of these detractors seem to be college or ex-college students into Tool and Incubus.

I understand your 'flow' comment, but don't think it's necessary for a greatest album, but its nice when it happens.

[brendonw]

Surprised The Bends made it so high, considering it wasn't even on the original list!

Easily their best album.

:D

[robbiez666]

I'm glad I never watch my tripe as the tv would have gone out the window when the no.1 was revealed. The Bends and Pablo Honey are far and away superior to OK Computer as are hundreds of other albums.

[meat puppet]

I'm glad I never watch my tripe as the tv would have gone out the window when the no.1 was revealed. The Bends and Pablo Honey are far and away superior to OK Computer as are hundreds of other albums.

Maybe I'm a bit biased as I had never listened to Radiohead until I heard OK Computer. My mate was giving it away as he hated it and thought I might offer a welcome home.
To say I was blown away by it was an under statement, its certainly in my top ten of all time. Another mate recommended The Bends as a better alternative, I just about ran to the shop to see how much better it could be !
IMO it was'nt as good, a mere shadow of the completeness of OK Computer and subsequent albums have never matched it, although they have been interesting.
I think the bends is the most popular amongst early fans of the band, when RH were more of a rock band and had less of a progressive feel, it really is a polarising record and seems to echo the same state of affairs that existed with two similar bands, The Beatles and The Beach Boys.
Both produced classic hit songs and albums and each released a progressive album (Sgt Peppers and Pet Sounds. It could be argued that the Beatles did it again with The White album), both have polarised opinion, but its clear that the vast majority of those fans would rather listen to the other albums.

It depends what you define as a greatest album : most popular or most musically progressive ? both are relevant, but its interesting that OKC achieved both results in this limited poll. Of course the results are skewed, but it was up against some stiff competition (did'nt have the Meat Puppets included as they would , of course have won by a landslide), its also a product of its time as it is still a recent record. Its difficult to tell if it will last as testament over a long period of time, but there is no doubting my initial reaction to it.

[TheFatBoy]

For me, The Bends is by far my favourite Radiohead album - but then, that's probably because I spent a lot of my teenage years listening to it on repeat (which also explains why Automatic For The People is by far my favourite REM album)... I love Pablo Honey too. I like OK Computer a lot, but It probably wouldn't make my top 50, let alone 10. It's just too inaccessible unless you're going to listen to it all in one sitting.

Strange how many of the albums I listened to aged 12 - 18 I still listen to regularly and would still make my top 100 (to name a few off the top of my head, Nirvana's Nevermind, GnR's Appetite For Destruction, The Doors, Blur's Modern Life Is Rubbish & Parklife, Oasis' Definately Maybe, The Beatles' Sgt Peppers)... I guess having very strong memories attached to many of those albums means they'll always hold a special meaning for me.

Also surprising was the number of albums on that list I own... 48 of them!

[RDNZL]

Also surprising was the number of albums on that list I own... 48 of them!

What wasn't surprising was how many I own ... precisely 2 :D

[meat puppet]

What wasn't surprising was how many I own ... precisely 2 :D

I read your CD collection ??? maybe mine looks as strange, cant quite get a grip on what you like, infact, I definitely have no idea who at least half of the artists are............then theres chunks of stuff by Brian Adams ? the wrong David Bowie albums, all that Dream Theatre, the wrong Kate Bush albums, Asia (several versions) Why ? Its intriguing ;)

[LeftHandedGuitarist]

Can you substantiate that last comment in light of your strange choices for greatest albums (and I own those albums too apart from Silverchair and cant see why they should be included).

I notice that there is a ground swell of dislike for Nirvana from people who got sickened by the constant airplay of 'Teen Spirit' (even Kurt would'nt play it anymore). Most of these detractors seem to be college or ex-college students into Tool and Incubus.

I understand your 'flow' comment, but don't think it's necessary for a greatest album, but its nice when it happens.

You're right I should explain. I don't want to turn this into a debate and would just like to get my thoughts across - I think I have a very odd opinion in that I really don't see what was so great about Nirvana. Most of their stuff was shouty noisy rubbish that all my friends seem to adore but I see nothing in whatsoever.

Yes, there were a few wonderful songs and I actually think Teen Spirit is a phenomenal song that has almost become underrated by constant airplay. It really does deserve a special place and I personally never get tired of it.

Kurt Cobain never did anything better than that though. All my friends give me these shocked looks whenever I say that, but for goodness sake most of his music was just noise! People praise his voice, doesn't do anything for me.

As I said, just my opinion. I find In Utero a much more listenable album than Nevermind, and even then I can't listen to most of the second half.

[RDNZL]

I read your CD collection ??? maybe mine looks as strange, cant quite get a grip on what you like, infact, I definitely have no idea who at least half of the artists are............then theres chunks of stuff by Brian Adams ? the wrong David Bowie albums, all that Dream Theatre, the wrong Kate Bush albums, Asia (several versions) Why ? Its intriguing ;)

It's probably best for you that you don't know who half of them are then given that damning assessment :D

I make absolutely no concessions to either the current vogue or taste - I likes what I likes :)

[jonathan.e]

Not sure if it’s been noted elsewhere in this thread but to not have ABC’s Lexicon of Love anywhere in this chart is nothing short of a disgrace. If I could think of a good reason why they’d want to fix it in order to exclude this I’d accuse them of doing so.

[meat puppet]

You're right I should explain. I don't want to turn this into a debate and would just like to get my thoughts across - I think I have a very odd opinion in that I really don't see what was so great about Nirvana. Most of their stuff was shouty noisy rubbish that all my friends seem to adore but I see nothing in whatsoever.

Yes, there were a few wonderful songs and I actually think Teen Spirit is a phenomenal song that has almost become underrated by constant airplay. It really does deserve a special place and I personally never get tired of it.

Kurt Cobain never did anything better than that though. All my friends give me these shocked looks whenever I say that, but for goodness sake most of his music was just noise! People praise his voice, doesn't do anything for me.

As I said, just my opinion. I find In Utero a much more listenable album than Nevermind, and even then I can't listen to most of the second half.

You should listen to your friends ;) :)

I cant believe your saying that In Utero is more listenable :eek: Kurt actually made it deliberately less listenable to distance himself from the pop songs on Nevermind. It's without doubt, the better album though, far more mature.

I would love to say you have'nt given it a fair hearing, but I reckon you probably have and you certainly sound like you have a legion of mates keen for you to give it a go. I think its the voice thats putting you off judging by your other choices and the fact that it swings into punk territory instead of traditional rock.

You might like the unplugged album better, though you would still have to contend with his voice.

Thanks for answering my question, its always interesting to hear others constructive comments.

[meat puppet]

It's probably best for you that you don't know who half of them are then given that damning assessment :D

I make absolutely no concessions to either the current vogue or taste - I likes what I likes :)

Yes, but I'm trying to understand and its not a damning assessment.

Theres obviously a very strong guitar feel, SRV, Satriani, VH etc and sort of prog rock feel with Rush and Dream theatre. Musicianship features very highly, so Kate Bush makes sense (you have still picked the wrong albums mind you ;) ), Toto is more musicianship, Saga is more Rush. So where does Brian Adams fit ?? Not a great musician, so this must be from another era err maybe.

I think you stole Alice in Chains greatest hits, it does'nt fit anywhere in this puzzle.

I think I will have to post my albums and you can have a go at working that little puzzle out :lol:

Anyway, which albums would you discard from that bunch and which would go into the top 100 ?? That will at least allow me to sleep nights ;)

[mr starface]

Unbelievably poor selection. Myself, the g/f and a mate were sitting there and for virtually every album that came up it was "Hmm this ones crap" or "Never even heard of this one". I think I and my mate liked a total of about 8 of the albums and the G/F about 10 (cos she like the beatles).

These definately were not the greatest or most popular albums of all time but more students top 100. But then again I never do well at these things as I cant see any attraction in the incoherent mumblings of radiohead, the simplistic songs of the beatles or tuneless rolling stones.

[RDNZL]

So where does Brian Adams fit ?? Not a great musician, so this must be from another era err maybe

True, but his band was always made up of good musicians & from 1982 to 1987 he could craft a nifty tune when he put his mind to it ... his output post 1987 sucks mightily though :D

I think you stole Alice in Chains greatest hits, it does'nt fit anywhere in this puzzle.

:D Paid £4.00 for that one - I like 4 or 5 tracks by them, all of which are on that cd.
I've also got 'Blue Lines' & 'Mezzanine' by Massive Attack & a Siouxsie & The Banshees compilation which fit a lot less well into my 'collection' than AIC do - still like 'em though.

Anyway, which albums would you discard from that bunch and which would go into the top 100 ?? That will at least allow me to sleep nights

My personal 100 would take forever to compile ... it's hard enough work to think of the top 10 :help:

[robbiez666]

You're right I should explain. I don't want to turn this into a debate and would just like to get my thoughts across - I think I have a very odd opinion in that I really don't see what was so great about Nirvana. Most of their stuff was shouty noisy rubbish that all my friends seem to adore but I see nothing in whatsoever.

Yes, there were a few wonderful songs and I actually think Teen Spirit is a phenomenal song that has almost become underrated by constant airplay. It really does deserve a special place and I personally never get tired of it.

Kurt Cobain never did anything better than that though. All my friends give me these shocked looks whenever I say that, but for goodness sake most of his music was just noise! People praise his voice, doesn't do anything for me.

As I said, just my opinion. I find In Utero a much more listenable album than Nevermind, and even then I can't listen to most of the second half.

Vevermind is a very good album. However, it isn't even a top 50 album on quality. It could be higher on importance though.

[meat puppet]

Vevermind is a very good album. However, it isn't even a top 50 album on quality. It could be higher on importance though.

Yeah I agree, Vevermind was never my favourite Nirvana album :lol: Nevermind was far better and well deserving of its place... :razz: ;) :)

[LeftHandedGuitarist]

You might like the unplugged album better, though you would still have to contend with his voice.

Yes, I do love the Unplugged album and find that a good listen. And yes there are even a few moments on there where his voice makes me wince a bit.

[James45]

As I said, just my opinion. I find In Utero a much more listenable album than Nevermind, and even then I can't listen to most of the second half.

You think Nevermind is 'shouty rubbish' and yet you prefer In Utero?! At least three quarters of the songs on In Utero descend into 'shouty rubbish' after the halfway mark, so much so that I can't listen to it anymore without getting a headache.

[LeftHandedGuitarist]

Yes, and as I said in my original post I can't really listen to most of the second half.

[James45]

wow you really don't like Nevermind then! :eek:

[agnetha]

the wrong Kate Bush albums
:lol:

True though - come on, get yourself The Kick Inside if nothing else!

[RDNZL]

:lol:

True though - come on, get yourself The Kick Inside if nothing else!

I had it on vinyl up to 15 years ago (along with all the others up to & including 'Hounds ...) & the only song that still sticks in my mind as being any good is 'Feel It' ... & that was done much better live on the Hammersmith Odeon gig video so :razz: to ya's all :D

[meat puppet]

:lol:

True though - come on, get yourself The Kick Inside if nothing else!

Hounds of Love for me, though Kick inside is still haunting. Strange , but I have only just realised I have all KBs albums up till HOL all on beautiful vinyl....................mmmmm Im going to play some tonight and stare at Kates image.