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morleyian
04-01-2005, 21:50
Clearly a goal for Spurs (what a long strike) Over the line and not given :nono:
OH MY GOD
Why are officials at Old Trafford so spineless
Unbelievable. :shrug:
Tough on Spurs fans.
Dont you people know the rules ??????? It has to touch the back of the net !!
:suspect:
Why am I not suprised. :(
Unbelievable, I couldn't believe what I was seeing. As Tony Cottee quite rightly said we could see it was over the line without the need of a replay and from the angle we had.
Greemie666
04-01-2005, 21:59
Once again Man Utd plummet to new depths.
:mad:
Cheating gits.
WiggyWog
04-01-2005, 22:00
And Chelsea slip further away :(
Good luck with the new contract negotiations Roy :|
Once again Man Utd plummet to new depths.
:mad:
Cheating gits.
:lol:
Fergie wasn't the linesman :cuckoo:
Absolutely unbelieveable.
There should now be an independent enquiry into the refereeing of Manchester United's games. That is clear evidence that some kind of match fixing is taking place. There is absolutely no way that the officials did not see that that went in.
The game should be conceeded by Manchester United as a 0-1 defeat.
Bad luck Spurs...
...and Arsenal :D
campdave
04-01-2005, 22:01
Once again Man Utd plummet to new depths.
:mad:
Cheating gits.
What are you on about? It's the linesman and referees fault, not Man United.
Personally I was picking my jaw up off the floor at the time, but I don't think Tony Cottee was convinced until he saw the replay.
Where's your sig campdave?
OH MY GOD
Why are officials at Old Trafford so spineless
Yeah cos Arsenal never get dodgy decisions (or Chelsea for that matter - ask the Liverpool fans). This isn't about individual clubs - as football fans we should all be bothered about the appalling standard of officiating in the Premiership this year. Its costing everyone.
Birmingham 1 Bolton 2, Kevin Nolan 90th minute winner :clap:
Bolton are back, Bolton are back!!!
You know whats funny, is that after the incident had occured I think Scholes went down in the box and I thought the ref had given a penalty! :lol: Instead it was a free kick. Now that really would have taken the biscuit.
morleyian
04-01-2005, 22:03
@ Sam's post: Here here :)
campdave
04-01-2005, 22:03
Where's your sig campdave?
The one of Roy on my old webspace got taken down when I closed my account. I have a new one on other forums, but haven't got round to resizing one for the DVD forums.
Absolutely unbelieveable.
There should now be an independent enquiry into the refereeing of Manchester United's games. That is clear evidence that some kind of match fixing is taking place. There is absolutely no way that the officials did not see that that went in.
The game should be conceeded by Manchester United as a 0-1 defeat.
It not Man United Games (they get blow up because of who they are), It's Refs in general that need to be enquiry about as we have seen all this season
Citysmith
04-01-2005, 22:04
Hang on a minute Frank Macklintock on SKY said Arsenals goal should not of stood. So I'm none to happy about that either.
But that 'Goal' @ OT was an absolute disgrace
simonmac
04-01-2005, 22:05
Yeah cos Arsenal never get dodgy decisions (or Chelsea for that matter - ask the Liverpool fans). This isn't about individual clubs - as football fans we should all be bothered about the appalling standard of officiating in the Premiership this year. Its costing everyone.
Well said that man...... ooops force of habit!
I agree the referees are a joke in the Premiership as how can you have the respect of a player earning upto 100 times their own wage. As long as the majoirty of punishments are financial the problem will persist.
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/playerpics04_05/football/live/carroll_gaffe.jpg
:eek:
Citysmith
04-01-2005, 22:08
How far over the line, take a look
How Typical (http://waccoe.com/forum/uploads/post-1-1104875562.jpg)
I feel embarrased. I walked out of the pub in disgust and wasnt until someone knocked on the window I realised it wasnt given. It was clearly obvious from the halfway camera as it happened.
Looking back, it seemed from the Spurs players expressions post whistle that they didnt know it was in. Will make for some interesting post match interviews when they see it.
Maybe the ref was in the Utd dressing room again :suspect:
Yeah cos Arsenal never get dodgy decisions (or Chelsea for that matter - ask the Liverpool fans). This isn't about individual clubs - as football fans we should all be bothered about the appalling standard of officiating in the Premiership this year. Its costing everyone.
Agreed, all clubs benefit/lose from dodgy decisions, Liverpool have done both in the space of a week, we got lucky at Anfield but missed out on a pen away at Villa earlier in the season so it often evens out, but it's still very frustrating/funny when your team's involved, and it's pretty much an integral part of the game I guess.
Crouching Tiger
04-01-2005, 22:10
That was just a joke. The linesman should never officiate again.
Lucky Utd but in fairness they didn't deserve to lose.
It will be interesting to see what the old git has to say.
Once again Man Utd plummet to new depths.
:mad:
Cheating gits.
Probably the stupidest post I have seen so far. Grow up.
Greemie666
04-01-2005, 22:10
Nobody needs a replay to see that the goal should have been given, it's not even a borderline decision.
Hmmm.... brown envelopes pehaps? :suspect:
mikeh1982
04-01-2005, 22:11
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/playerpics04_05/football/live/carroll_gaffe.jpg
:eek:
if thats a legit picture (dont see why not, but the one behind isnt as far i dont think) then someones gotta be in doodoo over this decision. Times like this makes me reconsider my postion on video replays for officials :mad:
Nobody needs a replay to see that the goal should have been given, it's not even a borderline decision.
Hmmm.... brown envelopes pehaps? :suspect:
I'd be careful what you post - that could very well be libellous
morleyian
04-01-2005, 22:11
mike: Perhaps one was taken before the other :p
campdave
04-01-2005, 22:11
How far over the line, take a look
How Typical (http://waccoe.com/forum/uploads/post-1-1104875562.jpg)
Right... given that it's visible from a camera high in the gantry, and the linesman was running back from the half-way line, could Roy's body possibly obscure the ball?
Only explanation I can think of.
I think Niall Quinn probably got it right - he said the linesman waas running hard with his head down to get back and missed it. Still doesn't excuse the decision though.
Match-fixing is just wishful thinking on some people's part. Purely down to rubbish officials (no matter how much you hate United).
Was frustrated as hell most of that match wondering how we weren't ahead, not too dissappointed with the result now :D
can i just vent my frustration... CHEATS
Citysmith
04-01-2005, 22:17
I can think of a few explanations, but I'll keep them to myself. The only legit one is that the linesman took his eye of the ball, coz he believed that RC would catch it, like has happened a million, zillion times in the Premiership before
who are cheats?
u cant call united cheats, it was the lines man who was at fault.
who are cheats?
u cant call united cheats, it was the lines man who was at fault.
:eek: What is wrong with Kyro?
It's the perfect time to have ago at united
:eek: What is wrong with Kyro?
It's the perfect time to have ago at united
Someone stole his login or one of the mods having a laugh, only explanation :shrug:
Greemie666
04-01-2005, 22:24
who are cheats?
u cant call united cheats, it was the lines man who was at fault.
Roy Carroll is a cheat, there is clear video evidence. If Wayne Rooney is to
be brought before the FA for what he did, then Carroll should also.
Citysmith
04-01-2005, 22:25
Ferguson says "It looked to be over" from where he was sat on the sideline!!!!!
Roy Carroll is a cheat, there is clear video evidence. If Wayne Rooney is to
be brought before the FA for what he did, then Carroll should also.
:lol:
Funniest post of the Year
oh shut up girlies and thank your lucky linesman
Birmingham 1 Bolton 2, Kevin Nolan 90th minute winner :clap:
Bolton are back, Bolton are back!!!
I really hope your right :D
Surely time for a rethink on instant replays !?
The NFL has got it right where coaches are allowed to challenge 2 dodgy calls per half.It wouldn't add that much time to a game surely ?
OH..... MY....GOD.....
Honestly, has there EVER been a worse decision in football?
Surely time for a rethink on instant replays !?
The NFL has got it right where coaches are allowed to challenge 2 dodgy calls per half.It wouldn't add that much time to a game surely ?
Oh well, I dont know, I once watched a 48 minute game of NFL that lasted for 3 hours... never again.
Oh well, I dont know, I once watched a 48 minute game of NFL that lasted for 3 hours... never again.
Yeah,but that is the stop/start nature of NFL (not to mention American ad breaks :nuts: )
Giving the manager of a footy team say 1 or 2 chances a half to question a dodgy call via instant replay would not add more than 5 mins per half at most.
I'm sure the fans would prefer an extra 10 mins added to the time a game takes if it meant a more fair result at the end of the day.I know that I would be gutted if I was a Spurs fan tonight.
I'm not calling Man Utd cheats, hey it wasn't their fault it wasn't given. They were lucky and will take that decision gladly.
But make no mistake, we might just have seen the worst decision from an official(s) in the Premier League's history. It's quite staggering looking at the replays.
Oh well, I dont know, I once watched a 48 minute game of NFL that lasted for 3 hours... never again.
But with respect how many times does a decision like this crop up in a football match, you will be lucky if you need a replay for an incident like this once in a match, and if you do it would/should take about 30 seconds max to sort it out.
Two points I think...
Firstly, ManU fans on this thread - clearly you cannot and are not disagreeing that it should be a goal. But the couple of people pointing out that other teams have been lucky and that there might be lucky decisions: that's fair enough, but this is far, far more severe than that, far outweighing any lucky decisions for ManU or any other clubs.
Secondly, I stand by my first post in the thread. I have nothing more against ManU than any other Arsenal fan (so quiet a lot clearly), what concerns me is the shear number of refereeing decisions that have been going in their favour.
To illustrate my second point, the referee in the ManU / Bolton match must surely have noted the Rooney/Ben Haim incident, but took no action. This was later deemed by the FA to be violent conduct. In this case, I simply cannot believe that a Premiership linesman was not looking at the only place where he should have been looking - where the ball was.
Finally, ManU should conceed the game 0-1 to Spurs. I rate this at an even higher level than the infamous Arsenal / Sheff Utd match that was replayed after Overmars and Kanu, both new to the league, scored a goal when they should have returned the ball after it was kicked out due to an injury.
The photo from Planet Football / Sky is absolutely athentic. Just a shame it doesn't show Carroll chucking it in the net as well. ;)
EDIT:
What I want to know is what the linesman said to the ref. Did he say "I didn't see it, sorry" - in which case the ref should have sought further help from the 4th official or any other means he deemed necessary e.g. looking at a replay, Did he say "I saw it - it didn't go in" - in which case there is a serious case to answer. Did the ref simply go by the fact that the linesman didn't raise his flag?
Just seen it
Sell Carroll now :oh-hum:
I know let replay the game next week....i sure fergie would love too ;)
And we all know that wouldnt have been a goal for United if the roles were reversed
:bigrolleyes:
Citysmith
04-01-2005, 22:50
Robben has a what !!!!!!!
Auntie Beeb Opps (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/4130163.stm)
About 3/4s the way down the page look for the typo mistake, Robben doesn't have a shot but a ........
To illustrate my second point, the referee in the ManU / Bolton match must surely have noted the Rooney/Ben Haim incident, but took no action.
He couldn't have noted it though as he didn't see it, the ref was following play and had his back to the incident.
Heard someone mention afterwards it was included in the match report by the ref when he saw replays, although I didn't think they could do that :thinking:
simonmac
04-01-2005, 22:51
Is the commentator on MOTD a Man Utd fan? I can't belive wouldn't commit that fact it was a clear goal.
PS: Oh BTW Carrol :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
PPS: Of i forgot he's our national keeper :cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry:
Robben has a what !!!!!!!
Auntie Beeb Opps (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/4130163.stm)
About 3/4s the way down the page look for the typo mistake, Robben doesn't have a shot but a ........
:lol:
I hope Schwarzer washed his hands afterwards !
Robben has a what !!!!!!!
Auntie Beeb Opps (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/4130163.stm)
About 3/4s the way down the page look for the typo mistake, Robben doesn't have a shot but a ........
Chelsea should have added further goals before half-time with Robben having a **** parried by Schwarzer and Duff unable to capitalise on the rebound.
**** should say shot.
simonmac
04-01-2005, 22:52
Robben has a what !!!!!!!
Auntie Beeb Opps (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/4130163.stm)
About 3/4s the way down the page look for the typo mistake, Robben doesn't have a shot but a ........
:lol: Just think of what the angle must have been
To illustrate my second point, the referee in the ManU / Bolton match must surely have noted the Rooney/Ben Haim incident, but took no action.
Nope he didn't see it hence the FA action. If you watch the replay of the incident you can see he is running away from the two players before they clash.
Two points I think...
Firstly, ManU fans on this thread - clearly you cannot and are not disagreeing that it should be a goal. But the couple of people pointing out that other teams have been lucky and that there might be lucky decisions: that's fair enough, but this is far, far more severe than that, far outweighing any lucky decisions for ManU or any other clubs.
Secondly, I stand by my first post in the thread. I have nothing more against ManU than any other Arsenal fan (so quiet a lot clearly), what concerns me is the shear number of refereeing decisions that have been going in their favour.
Oh please, it's football FFS, look at the penalty for handball that Riley never gave against Chelsea in the Liverpool match, the same ref who was accused be people on this forum for having a utd bias.
Citysmith
04-01-2005, 22:56
Rumour has it the Linesman at Old Trafford tonight was Russian :suspect: :n0rty:
Robben has a what !!!!!!!
Auntie Beeb Opps (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/eng_prem/4130163.stm)
About 3/4s the way down the page look for the typo mistake, Robben doesn't have a shot but a ........
:lol:
I'll start being sensible now :) Fair enough on the Rooney point I picked a bad example, sorry :). How about the Rooney dive vs. Arsenal? ;)
I'm just wondering if I should set Sky+ to record the Chelski match to see Robben having a ****.
Respect to Spurs
the Spurs players didnt make that big a deal out of it and Jol did seem that concerned
Still hasn't sunk-in really. Sure, we 'parked the bus' a little tonight, but gained confidence in the second half and passed it around nicely. Lacked something up front, but understandably so with Keane up there on his own!
Gutted about the 'decision' but pleased with a point. Just soooo frustrating to know we should've had all three.
King and Robbo were amazing tonight.
the Spurs players didnt make that big a deal out of it and Jol did seem that concerned
He'd probably already passed around the full-time bong, certainly looked very chilled when most managers would have been fuming. Fergie would have had a stroke on live TV had it been the other way around.
I thought the funny thing with Jol was that at the start of the interview he wasn't bothered, but by the end he was ranting about it. He only saw it on video for the first time during the interview.
Unfortunately they didn't show the full interview on Sky Sports News that was shown on Premiership Plus, at least not the one I saw?
I thought the funny thing with Jol was that at the start of the interview he wasn't bothered, but by the end he was ranting about it.
Unfortunately they didn't show the full interview on Sky Sports News that was shown on Premiership Plus, at least not the one I saw?
Will you take them Gooner glasses off, saw the Prem Plus interview with him and didn't spot ranting of any description :shrug:
Respect to Spurs
the Spurs players didnt make that big a deal out of it and Jol did seem that concerned
But did they even release though because it looked to me as if most of them didn't know.
People are saying that man U aren't cheats, but that's not 100% true.
The ball was that far over the line that Caroll should have just left it. Him actually going that far beyond the line to make the "save" is basically cheating. I suppose the only excuse could be that he was disoriented after such an amazing fumble, though to be honest he only made himself look more stupid.
Comedy goalkeeping and comedy decision making all in one.
But did they even release though because it looked to me as if most of them didn't know.
The first interview with King and someone? then with Jol, both times they were shown the replay by the interviewer.
simonmac
04-01-2005, 23:14
Bloody hell, just saw Henry's assist :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
Think on the whole we played well, just unlucky we did not convert more then one of the chances, lost count of the times we've be denided by the post or just put on wide. Glad to see that we've finally got the point that we don't need to create the perfect goal to win a game, we can spank one from 25 yards. As for the inexperienced defence i think the handled them selves creitably. On the whole with all our injurys to the first team, not too bad.
Bloody hell, just saw Henry's assist
Shame thats all he done tonight. Our first half performance cost us dear :oh-hum:
SOUNDSTYLE
04-01-2005, 23:26
http://skysports.planetfootball.com/images/playerpics04_05/football/live/carroll_gaffe.jpg
:eek:
I blame Mendes, why didn't he just hit it a bit harder. :lol:
We All Follow United...!
Hang on a minute Frank Macklintock on SKY said Arsenals goal should not of stood. So I'm none to happy about that either.
Arsenal's goal was superb and not remotely offside either. You can be happy now.
Citysmith
04-01-2005, 23:39
Arsenal's goal was superb and not remotely offside either. You can be happy now.
Superb, I think SWPs goal was a lot better than FLs. He struck it very sweetly. Mackem played the world and his wife on, the defence did it's job but JM on the very far of the pitch didn't pull back, so good goal.
It was great watching Arsenal moan for the last few minutes of the match. What's wrong with AC why did he look sooooooooo Angry near the end of the match :lol: :lol:
.....what I've just remembered is that I had £10 on at 7/1 on Spurs winning tonight!:mad: Not only robbed of 6th place, but also raped of a good night out!:mad:
Match of the Day are reporting that Diouf could be at the centre of another spitting incident after supporters complained to police during this evenings match.
Citysmith
04-01-2005, 23:44
.....what I've just remembered is that I had £10 on at 7/1 on Spurs winning tonight!:mad: Not only robbed of 6th place, but also raped of a good night out!:mad:
Will be interesting to see what fuss will be kicked up if Spurs miss out on CL or Uefa cup by a point or 2. A win @ Old Trafford would have done wonders for confidence @ Spurs.
Thought the Manager for Spurs left showing class :thumbs:
PS. I think the word 'raped' is a bit harsh for losing out on a few quid :gag:
Pisces Iscariot
04-01-2005, 23:45
I must have been over 100 yards away from that goal at Old Trafford tonight and it was still clear as day that the ball had crossed the line. It was so obvious that the linesman in the other half could have given it! :eek:
I must have been over 100 yards away from that goal at Old Trafford tonight and it was still clear as day that the ball had crossed the line. It was so obvious that the linesman in the other half could have given it! :eek:
Are you sure - Click Me (http://www.40percent.tv/fnord/howard.jpg)
originally posted by mike1982 in spurs thread
Citysmith
04-01-2005, 23:51
Are you sure - Click Me (http://www.40percent.tv/fnord/howard.jpg)
originally posted by mike1982 in spurs thread
Now that's class, had me laughing for a while :clap: :notworthy :clap:
Dr_Fruitbat
05-01-2005, 00:04
Just watched the replay of the 'non goal' on Sky, anyone else notice the grin on
Roy Carrolls face as he looked at the linesman and realised he got away with it.
HenryKrinkle
05-01-2005, 00:13
Well of course he'd be grinning, no-one would have expected to get away with that!!!
...would have been very unjust if United had lost the game because of Spurs only goal attempt!
Dr_Fruitbat
05-01-2005, 00:24
...would have been very unjust if United had lost the game because of Spurs only goal attempt!
Not really as Spurs scored a perfectly good (funny, but good) goal with
their only attempt and Man Utd didn't despite numerous attempts. ;)
unrealnils
05-01-2005, 00:36
Match of the Day are reporting that Diouf could be at the centre of another spitting incident after supporters complained to police during this evenings match.
Aboslute disgcrace :mad: what a git of a player
Dr_Fruitbat
05-01-2005, 00:43
So you're saying good play by a striker is more worthy than an outstanding performance by a goalkeeper
No I don't recall typing those words at all, but if you can find a quote
where I typed those words feel free to show me.
I mearly stated that mullering the opposition for 89 minutes and not
scoring does not mean you 'should' win it, furthermore even if the
opposition does come to defend and have one shot on target, if it's
a valid goal it deserves to win the game.
sorry i made a mistake - i meant to quote henry, not you
Dr_Fruitbat
05-01-2005, 00:47
Not a linesman at Old Trafford are you by any chance ? ;)
no - he'd have posted in the genreal classified adverts forum :D :D
I mearly stated that mullering the opposition for 89 minutes and not
scoring does not mean you 'should' win it, furthermore even if the
opposition does come to defend and have one shot on target, if it's
a valid goal it deserves to win the game.
Agreed, although it was hardly our only chance. Carrols earlier blunder let Mendes get a shot off. He over hit it but it could have easily curled into the top right corner. Keane had an earlier shot saved and hit one over with only the keeper to beat. Marney inexplicably waited for support even though he was behind the defense with the ball at one point :shrug:
Don't believe too much what the MOTD highlights showed, we were very strong tonight and in the second half we gave UTD some problems although with our lack of strikers and their defense we couldn't do much.
Will be interesting to see what fuss will be kicked up if Spurs miss out on CL or Uefa cup by a point or 2. A win @ Old Trafford would have done wonders for confidence @ Spurs.
I'll be well gutted if that's the case but I think getting a draw gave us the confidence we needed. I think a Draw was the best we could hope for before the game and we got exactly that
I don't think the players were too disappointed because initially they believed that it wasn't in so by the time they saw it they'd accepted it and it didn't really bother them because they were so pleased with their performance and hard work
It's those of us who saw the goal that are gutted
by the time carroll actual makes his "save" the ball is even further over the line than in that pic:
This shows it even better:
http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2005000532,00.gif
Carroll must have know he was cheating - he went so far back into the goal it is ridiculous
unrealnils
05-01-2005, 02:14
That dont make carrol a cheat though does it ........ if i was him id still go for it even over the line i mean you dont want to be seen to do nothing.
Jesus from that sun clip its pretty far past the line :doh:
I wouldn't say Carrol is cheating, perhaps being unsporting but very few (if any) players would tell the ref they got the decision wrong if it helped the other team.
How tall is Carrol? His body from his waist to the tips of his fingers are all over the line, that's got to be about 3 feet!
Mendes, from the halfway line, Mendes, from the halfway line.........
That dont make carrol a cheat though does it ........ if i was him id still go for it even over the line i mean you dont want to be seen to do nothing.
fair enough go past the line, but not over half way into the goal itself - that's just silly. If you're already on the line and you're divng 100% straight into the goal and streching out your arm as far as you can then that's cheating, especially if you carry on as if nothing happened. He ended up in the net by the time he had finished - i.e. right at the back of the goal. :brickwall
take a look:
http://www.awimb.com/carroll.gif
I'm not tring to take anything away from the officials - they totally completely messed up and should certianly apologise. I'm just pointing out the cheating by Carroll merely because people previously suggested that the Man U players were totally innocent. Carroll's cheating is the root casue of the matter. he is a cheat, but most of the blame lies with the officals
Also - contrary to many suggestions plenty of Spurs players did think it was a goal - they have eyes too you know.
redmosquito
05-01-2005, 02:50
:lol:@ some of the people in this thread. How the hell are united or Carroll cheats, wasn't there mistake. You really think they should have owned up :lol: No player would own up if they got away with that.
The ball slipped through Carrolls hands so his natural instinct would be to dive and try and keep it out of the goal, once he was diving there's not much chance of him stoping mid motion.
Shocking descision none the less. But the blame doesn't lie with anybody at United.
Lmao @ that clip, what a pleb.
unrealnils
05-01-2005, 03:39
fair enough go past the line, but not over half way into the goal itself - that's just silly. If you're already on the line and you're divng 100% straight into the goal and streching out your arm as far as you can then that's cheating, especially if you carry on as if nothing happened. He ended up in the net by the time he had finished - i.e. right at the back of the goal. :brickwall
take a look:
http://www.awimb.com/carroll.gif
On that gif im seeing him turn then take one diving step into the net...........
I still stand hes not the cheat though i see why you say he is as if he didnt move off his feet it would have been a goal.
NOONOO stop trolling, how many times to you see players clearing a ball even though its over the line. Its instinct.
Unbelievable decision really. Definitely time for video replays I think, how much longer can a multi million pound game be ruined by the ineptitude of a few useless officials?
I can't really blame anyone at Utd, just spineless officials. If some one had come up to me and said "The ball went 2 feet over the line in a game last night and the goal wasn't given, you have 3 guesses which stadium it was at", I would have only needed one.
We have seen 3 hand balls that should have been pens and now a ball a yard over the line. The standard of the officials is just not good enough and something must be done to restore confidence in them. After all they are professionals and should be acountable for their actions
:D
An FA spokesman after the game absolved the linesman of any responsibility for the apparently mistaken decision not to award a goal to Spurs after a shot from the halfway line crossed the goal line by at least a meter. >> "The shot came in from an unusual distance and as such caught the linesman out of position forcing him to race back towards the goal as the play developed", explained the spokesman, "As he ran, the United scarf he was wearing under his shirt came loose and fluttered up into his face obscuring his view and preventing him from making the call. It was just one of those things." >> In response to further questions from the Press the spokesman explained "If they don't already have a United tattoo, most officials on game day try to wear a scarf or a replica shirt under their regulation kit to show their support for the worlds greatest club. The linesman in this case had chosen to wear a United scarf, a common choice at this time of year and is in keeping with FA guidelines. The root cause of the problem lies not with the linesman but with the players and management of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club who broke one the most important unwritten rules of the English FA: >> They placed a shot on target at Old Trafford. Martin Jol is new to this country and perhaps he s not yet familiar with some of our finer traditions. Fortunately if he doesn't yet understand that for the greater good of the game visiting teams, by tradition, are not expected to try to score at Old Trafford then our officials are in a position to help Mr Jol make that cultural adjustment." >> Chuckling to himself the FA spokesman added "The goal had to be disallowed to avoid us descending down a slippery slope that would be bad for the national game. It's a fine line the officials have to walk. If they award a goal this week, next week someone might expect a penalty or ask that Van Nistleroy be booked for diving. Can you imagine? That would just never do. >> No no no. Shocking, just the thought of it."
Bapapapa
05-01-2005, 14:49
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That's shocking and disgusting! :eek:
How do the FA get away with it!!??!!1 :mad:
.....what I've just remembered is that I had £10 on at 7/1 on Spurs winning tonight!:mad: Not only robbed of 6th place, but also raped of a good night out!:mad:
Take it up with your bookie, you might persuade him to pay out for the victory!...
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=321035&cc=5739
Doubt it though :(
Supposedly theres already a Hawkeye system that can instantly do offsides and when the ball crosses a line. FIFA just have no interest in it apprantly. :shrug:
Im all for technology being used for open and closed cases like the ball crossing the line and offside, just not for fouls and handballs.
Supposedly theres already a Hawkeye system that can instantly do offsides and when the ball crosses a line. FIFA just have no interest in it apprantly. :shrug:
Im all for technology being used for open and closed cases like the ball crossing the line and offside, just not for fouls and handballs.
they should just use the system that Ice hockey has for ages, I think it would be cool if there was a police style light and loudspeaker behind each goal, followed by a fog horn sound :nuts: :thumbs:
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