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Shaun Pollock has been passed fit to play in tomorrow's Test. Boeta Dippenaar look's set for a return after recovering from a knee problem. All rounder Andrew Hall could also make a come back in place of Amla.
Looking forward to this as I should be able to see most of the test. Lets just hope the weather doesn't get in the way ;)
poissony
02-01-2005, 10:21
SA are 70-2 at the moment. Does anyone know who won the toss? I missed the beginning.
SA won the toss, Butcher is injured so Key plays. The wicket is very flat so a good start by England.
South Africa 169-3 at the moment
Kallis and Dippenaar are in at the moment - Kallis is looking menacing but Giles is really bowling well at the moment.
Kallis has just scored his 50, his 34th overall and his 6th against England.
This is a 500+ first innings wicket imo , if we get Kallis tonight a think we will have had a good day.
S.A. now 3/202, need a wicket before play's end.
It's pretty slow going at the moment to which you have to give credit to our bowlers for keeping things in check considering how good this wicket is.
More like old fashioned Test Matches today - run rate hovering below 3, lots of defensive shots and pretty slow going in all. Pretty sure Harmison will get another crack before the close shortly
Giles removes Dippenaar - just what the doctor ordered!!! :D
Theres a lot of pressure on Amla now. 2 more before the close England please :)
South Africa finish on 247-4 after day one, not much between the teams. Kallis is once again looking set for a big score so it would be great if we could remove him early in the morning. I thought our bowlers did well today on this pitch.
SA reduced to 337-7 at lunch, so a decent morning for England.
Harmison worried Kallis early on but couldn't get him to nick one ;)
Amla was given out to a shocker of a decision, unlucky for a new player trying to make a good impression.
Pollock edged one, probably worrying more about his fingers than runs atm :)
De Villers missed a full toss and was bowled :D
-- Jon
S.Africa now digging in with Kallis and Boje - 380/7 with the partnership now 67 :eek:
Better from England now.
Kallis gone and SA 417-9 :thumbs:
South Africa all out for 441, England have made a good start in their reply and are 50-0.
Crouching Tiger
03-01-2005, 15:09
Not so good now. 55 for 2. Key > duck.
Good start from Key :oh-hum:
You know that unbeaten run... :nuts: :suspect:
-- Jon
On a positive note, Andrew Strauss reached 1,000 Test runs today :clap: :clap: :clap:
On a positive note, Andrew Strauss reached 1,000 Test runs today :clap: :clap: :clap:
And then got out :(
A great effort by Strauss but we really needed him to stay there for the battle tomorrow. At the moment I am not that confident that we will even make the follow on target, but as we keep hearing this team has a lot of grit and fight and they are going to have to show that to fight themselves out of the hole they are in at the moment.
Thorpe is the keyman again - if he falls early, then a follow on could be on the cards! :eek:
Thorpe is the keyman again - if he falls early, then a follow on could be on the cards! :eek:
Not sure they would enforce follow on. Would be an interesting decision
off topic, but seeing as there isn't a thread for this test....
jesus wept, just how good is adam gilchrist? I'm listening to it on ABC radio, and they spent ages going on (a la Radio 4) about how gilly gave hope to all kids with woks for ears!
Its really going down the pan now - 116/6 with Flintoff and Hoggard victims this morning with Ntini taking both wickets. Only Thorpe and Jones stand between us and the follow on and a crushing defeat more than likely :(
EDIT: 128/7 now - Jones removed by Van Langeveldt :(
EDIT 2: 141/8 with Thorpe gone now :cry:
All out for 163 at Lunch. Will be intreesting to see if they enforce the follow on. They were saying on Talk Sport that Smit hwould prefer not to bat last on this track because if England do bat well in the 2nd innings then SA might have a tricky little total to chase on the last day. I see the point but surely SAs best chance to win the match is too stick England in again.
Tons of time left. SA could bat for a day and get near 600 run lead and still have 5 sessions to bowl England out
jesus wept, just how good is adam gilchrist?
There is no better batsman in world cricket when he is on form like he was today, 113 of just 120 balls. Gonna have to watch the highlights later I think.
South Africa have not enforced the follow-on and are going to bat again. I enjoyed Giles little cameo at the end, puts some of our batsman to shame.
We could bowl out S.Africa for 150 and still be looking at an insane 4th innings total! :eek:
S.Africa currently 62/2 - Gibbs and Smith are both out with Flintoff having captured his 100th victim in Test Match cricket! :thumbs:
Unfortunately it just brings Kallis to the crease :(
There is no better batsman in world cricket when he is on form like he was today, 113 of just 120 balls.
although, interestingly....
for all his centuries in test cricket he's only scored a century once where no-one else in the team has (if that makes sense). so perhaps that points to the fact that he's best when he can swing freely without any real fear because the hard work has already been done. A career strike rate of over 85 (and ave of 52 ish) is bloody awesome though.
Nick[Blarg]
04-01-2005, 13:09
Rudolph gone for 23 now. SA 104-3
The lead is 387 at Lunch with still 7 wickets remaining - the words 'crushing defeat' still spring to mind :(
Score is now 149/3 - England have really gone into negative/defensive mode and are well, well behind on the over rate again. Scoring rate has also collapsed and I think we are just trying to restrict the lead as much as we can now.
Score is now 149/3 - England have really gone into negative/defensive mode and are well, well behind on the over rate again. Scoring rate has also collapsed and I think we are just trying to restrict the lead as much as we can now.
Sounds like a good plan to me.
If England do get a draw because of the slow over rate then the ICC will surely have to rethink the ridicuolous new policy of having set close of play times. Why teams shouldn;t be made to bowl their full amount of overs is beyond me but I assume it was done to help the TV companies stick to a schedule.
I never even released that the ICC had brought this rule in until today, I would like to know what the thinking behind it is because as far as I am concerned it encourages negative play on the part of the fielders as is the case today, finning the teams doesn't seem to work either.
I can't understand what South Africa are doing here, are they afraid incase England rattle up 500 plus in our seconds innings like in the second test ?
I never even released that the ICC had brought this rule in until today, I would like to know what the thinking behind it is because as far as I am concerned it encourages negative play on the part of the fielders as is the case today, finning the teams doesn't seem to work either.
I can't understand what South Africa are doing here, are they afraid incase England rattle up 500 plus in our seconds innings like in the second test ?
As I mentioned before I can only assume it's to appease the TV companies who often had to shift their schedules around. I was astonisehed when they mentioned this rule during the last test. Any team would take the fine rather than risk losing a match.
As for SA I really don't see why they didn't enforce the follow on. They had England rattled and a big lead on the board. If they had been leading the series then fair enough but all England will try to do now is bat out the rest of the match which should be pefectly manageable considering the pitch still seems to be in good nick
The 3 little pigs
04-01-2005, 15:38
You all beat me to it. I dont understand what South Africa are doing either. I Would have thought they would have blasted the runs as quickly as possible giving their bowlers as long as possible to knock out the England batsman on a very good pitch. I dont see England scoring 450 to win the game, so what are they doing? :?:
EDIT: Gay spelling
charlie angel
04-01-2005, 15:40
I think Boycott has got the right idea when it comes to over rates - deduct 10 runs for every over short-bowled; we'd see teams screaming through their 90 over a day then.
Back to the match - not looking to good for England. Maybe the weather will play to our favour this time?
II dont see England scoring 450 to win the game, so what are they doing? :?:
EDIT: Gay spelling
Probably not but why give England even a sniff of a chance . Put 550 -600 on the board and then they can have 9 catching fielders if they so wish. Ok they probably want to score faster but there is still loads of time to play with
Just seen highlights of Gilchrist's knock, he hit some great 6's including one to bring up this ton. He generates awesome power despite being only a slight build.
SA set England 501 to win of 1000 balls after a farcical morning of bad cricket by both sides :|
Tresco out second ball, 998 to go :thumbs:
-- Jon
Its almost 0-3 with Key more than likely departing very shortly and Michael Vaughan's totaly lack of form coupled with his damaged hand :(
Lets just hope Strauss, Flintoff and Thorpe can all hit nice big centuries! :thumbs:
23-1 at Lunch so it isn't looking to good so far. I guess the only way we were going to get Kallis out was via a run out.
23-1 at Lunch so it isn't looking to good so far. I guess the only way we were going to get Kallis out was via a run out.
I'm also not hopeful of a draw but with any luck our middle order will get a chance to bat themselves into some kind of form before the end of the match.
Sadly the current trend for few if any practice matches make it very difficult for anyone to find form. As Atherton pointed out on TalkSport it is very difficult for people like Key to perform after having played a single one day game at the beginning of the tour and that I belive was his first competitive knock since the end of the English Season :cuckoo:
Atherton pointed out on TalkSport it is very difficult for people like Key to perform after having played a single one day game at the beginning of the tour and that I believe was his first competitive knock since the end of the English Season :cuckoo:
It was Key's first proper match since last September. I would like to know who and why we agreed to this tour schedule. Sky were saying yesterday that after this test match a three day game was originally due to be played, it was then shortened to a one day match and then dropped completely. It just does not make sense to me :cuckoo:
It was Key's first proper match since last September. I would like to know who and why we agreed to this tour schedule. Sky were saying yesterday that after this test match a three day game was originally due to be played, it was then shortened to a one day match and then dropped completely. It just does not make sense to me :cuckoo:
Agreed. With players out of form and lacking match practice we desparately need the traditional 3 day games between tests.
Just to compare I have had a look at the Aussies fistures for this summer and here is their tour itinery for the summer which is far more sensible than the SA tour
Sat 11 Jun TOUR Leicestershire Grace Road
Mon 13 Jun NWIT20 England Rose Bowl
Wed 15 Jun TOUR Somerset Taunton
Sat 18 Jun NWS Bangladesh Sophia Gardens
Sun 19 Jun NWS England Bristol
Thu 23 Jun NWS England Riverside
Sat 25 Jun NWS Bangladesh Old Trafford
Tue 28 Jun NWS England Edgbaston
Thu 30 Jun NWS Bangladesh Canterbury
Thu 07 Jul NWC England Headingley
Sun 10 Jul NWC England Lord's
Tue 12 Jul NWC England Brit Oval
Fri 15 - Sun 17 Jul TOUR TBC
Sussex/Leics/Somerset
Thu 21 - Mon 25 Jul NPT1 England Lord's
Sat 30 Jul - Mon 1 Aug TOUR TBC
Worcs/Glam/Gloucs/Northants
Thu 04 - Mon 8 Aug NPT2 England Edgbaston
Thu 11 - Mon 15 Aug NPT3 England Old Trafford
Thu 18 Aug TOUR Scotland The Grange
Sat 20 - Sun 21 Aug TOUR TBC
Northants/Middx
Thu 25 - Mon 29 Aug NPT4 England Trent Bridge
Sat 03 - Sun 4 Sep TOUR
Essex/Sussex/Notts
Thu 08 - Mon 12 Sep NPT5 England Brit Oval
Strauss has fallen leaving us 68/2 - Vaughan and Key at the crease now :(
Can you see the Aussies agreeing to the schedule, I can't.
Strauss has gone now to a poor decision from the umpire, the ball clearly hit him outside the line of the stumps and not only that but he got an inside edge on it :(
England 78/2 at the tea interval - they must survive this evening with no more lost wickets!
Some truely bizarre captainign by Smith. Pollock bowling to one slip and a gully :nuts:
Some truely bizarre captainign by Smith. Pollock bowling to one slip and a gully :nuts:
Amazing isn't it. Almost as if they have money on a draw :suspect:
Amazing isn't it. Almost as if they have money on a draw :suspect:
Don't be daft a cricket captain would never try to fix the result of a match for finacial gains :suspect:
*cough* Hanse Cronje *cough*
Key has money on a SA win
Out stumped by a mile for 41 :nuts:
-- Jon
What a muppet. :oh-hum:
Plese England no more wickets..
Thorpe in now, lets hope he can make a stand.
Sounds like an absolutely dreadful, Ramprakash-like dismissal :oh-hum:
Crouching Tiger
05-01-2005, 14:29
Key has money on a SA winSo have I :n0rty:
Oh dear, its going down the pan big time now! :lol:
Sparky uk
05-01-2005, 14:33
105-4 now
dont look good
Judging by Vaughans shot - maybe he'd told Keysie that we can win this by lunch tomorrow.
Flintoff is gone as our hopes of saving this game now :(
146/5
We're doomed. Great performance by the Springboks.
Off topic but have you seen the picture of the Sri Lankan ground we were playing a Test on this time last year?, the entire stadium more or less destroyed.
Off topic but have you seen the picture of the Sri Lankan ground we were playing a Test on this time last year?, the entire stadium more or less destroyed.
Saw that - absolutely unbelievable
Thorpe has gone :( All over now, oh well had to lose sometime. But its only 1-1 so we can still win the series, important our heads dont drop after this inevitable defeat.
194 - 6
307 to win, they might be able to bat on all day and keep it as draw but I highly doubt it...
10 from the last over.
Lunch and England are 225-8.
307 to win, they might be able to bat on all day and keep it as draw but I highly doubt it...
Its looking very unlikely now as Giles and then G Jones have been dismissed in successive overs from Boye. 225-8 - the end is near :(
cant see us holdimg out for too long after lunch :( the springboks have played very well
England 273-9
Harmison is having some fun but its delaying the inevitable - can't really see somehow Hoggard and Harmy lasting till 4pm ;)
Where's those storm clouds when you need them ;)
Harmisson is 32 not out at the moment and is swinging the ball to all areas.
Valiant performance by top scorer Harmison and Hoggy, but we've lost :(
Fair play to SA, they've really dominated this match and our batting has been very poor this game.
-- Jon
All over as Harmison is dismissed for 42, 304 all out and South Africa win by a massive 196 runs and to be honest we got what we deserved - nothing. Perhaps the gap between this and the next test will do us some good as we were way short of our best.
All over as Harmison is dismissed for 42, 304 all out and South Africa win by a massive 196 runs and to be honest we got what we deserved - nothing. Perhaps the gap between this and the next test will do us some good as we were way short of our best.
The gap would be good if it allowed out of form players to get some time in the middle in the 3 day tour match. Oh wait they scrapped that match :cuckoo:
All the middle order need to bat and Harmison needs to bowl and with the liklihood of Flintoff being out we'll have another player (Collingwood) playing without no match practice at all. As we discussed yesterday this is just bonkers
The guys just need to work again in the nets on batting - far, far too many soft dismissals that remind me of the old days. If you get out to a corker from Pollock or Ntini, then fair enough but running down the pitch to try and smash spinners for 6 and then getting stumped is not acceptable at this level IMO :oh-hum:
and with the liklihood of Flintoff being out
Apparently his injury isn't as bad as it seemed so with this short gap before the next test he should be ok. My only worry is the work load we are putting on his broad shoulders, he bowled more overs in the last match that what Simon Jones did.
Yeah - they really need to trust Jones to bowl more overs, it's not like he's bowled wayward or badly in his spells.. the more he bowls the better he will get. He's the most inexperienced of the bowlers - so give him more overs.
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